Lets not forget that there are certain Quests in TOR where you can just lie to the Quest giver in order to get a lesser/superior Rewards .
So you can finish some Quests by just talking and bluffing to the NPC.
There are also quests where you can get yourself in EXTRA trouble by bluffing. Someone who got to try out the game mentioned something about how they lied to a character who had mentioned them being familiar and then when they went along with the lie, the NPC revealed that the player he mistaked him for was someone who owed him money and that he had better pay up now or "Suffer the consequences!"
You can repeat it many times but it wont make it true.
SWTOR is taking the genre back to 2005.
GW2 will progress it and take it to a new decade of fresh interesting gaming.
About time.
Now, play SWTOR all you like I dont care, just dont pretend its something that´s not.
EDIT this is for musicmann the dude that spreads false info heh.
Wow, i'm glad that a GW2 fanboi's opinion of TOR and even myself is so low. What should i do now.
Look, i very happy you are totally in love with GW2. You can sit here and repeat the same bullshit opinion about a game all you want. The facts remain that GW2 is not that much differant that TOR.
I mean, i can keep repeating it, but, a simple way is to sit back with a pen and paper and without any personal feelings about both games, write a list of what is actually in the games as of today, a side by side list. when you are done you will see that they pretty much are alike and there's a few systems that are differant.
No body here is trying to convince you to like TOR, actually no one thinks you should be here at all, since it's obvious you're not gonna play TOR. You really need to be hanging in the GW2 forums praising and critizing that game like most of us are doing with this game.
You can repeat it many times but it wont make it true.
SWTOR is taking the genre back to 2005.
GW2 will progress it and take it to a new decade of fresh interesting gaming.
About time.
Now, play SWTOR all you like I dont care, just dont pretend its something that´s not.
EDIT this is for musicmann the dude that spreads false info heh.
Wow, i'm glad that a GW2 fanboi's opinion of TOR and even myself is so low. What should i do now.
Look, i very happy you are totally in love with GW2. You can sit here and repeat the same bullshit opinion about a game all you want. The facts remain that GW2 is not that much differant that TOR.
I mean, i can keep repeating it, but, a simple way is to sit back with a pen and paper and without any personal feelings about both games, write a list of what is actually in the games as of today, a side by side list. when you are done you will see that they pretty much are alike and there's a few systems that are differant.
No body here is trying to convince you to like TOR, actually no one thinks you should be here at all, since it's obvious you're not gonna play TOR. You really need to be hanging in the GW2 forums praising and critizing that game like most of us are doing with this game.
You tried comparing them and embarrassed yourself.
You gave false info.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
You can repeat it many times but it wont make it true.
SWTOR is taking the genre back to 2005.
GW2 will progress it and take it to a new decade of fresh interesting gaming.
About time.
Now, play SWTOR all you like I dont care, just dont pretend its something that´s not.
EDIT this is for musicmann the dude that spreads false info heh.
Wow, i'm glad that a GW2 fanboi's opinion of TOR and even myself is so low. What should i do now.
Look, i very happy you are totally in love with GW2. You can sit here and repeat the same bullshit opinion about a game all you want. The facts remain that GW2 is not that much differant that TOR.
I mean, i can keep repeating it, but, a simple way is to sit back with a pen and paper and without any personal feelings about both games, write a list of what is actually in the games as of today, a side by side list. when you are done you will see that they pretty much are alike and there's a few systems that are differant.
No body here is trying to convince you to like TOR, actually no one thinks you should be here at all, since it's obvious you're not gonna play TOR. You really need to be hanging in the GW2 forums praising and critizing that game like most of us are doing with this game.
You tried comparing them and embarrassed yourself.
You gave false info.
Please elaborate, As i did not give any false information. i would like to know what was false.
Uh,I'd like to hear your view of the core of an MMO then. But first let's compare this to GW 2.
GW 2 likely mainly uses text for quests. Same as 1st gen MMOs.
GW 2 will most likely not allow multiple players to influence the permanent direction of the mission choices. Like WoW.
GW 2 melee combat looks the same as WoW. The weapons or shields do not actually touch lol.
GW 2 doesn't do space just land like WoW. So forget about that or other planets.
GW 2 doesn't have an alignment system that accounts for the choices you've made in all your quests and compare to other players. Just like WoW.
Finally Arena.net is not known for their storytelling, kind of like Blizzard.
But of course you're saying who needs these "SRPG" elements that TOR will have. And of course when you put SRPG elements into an MMO that effect thousands of people besides just your player then they are no longer SRPG elements... They become next gen MMO elements?
GW2 is going away from traditional text based questing, wrong info there.
The missions will be dynamic with superior mob AIs (if you dont attack enemy camp they will multiply and take over land, build forts and start attacking roads or some such, sounds extremely interesting gameplay, so you wrong there too.
The melee combat is explained in detail for the only melee class revealed so far ( can Bioware say the same? all you hear is fluff from them) - wrong info there too.
SWTOR have no space confirmed, wrong info there too.
As for PVP, you´d be very dumb to criticize GW´s PVP because whenever PVP discussions start only 2 games get mentioned as best at it, DoAC and GW.
GW2 will have the best PVP to date, always balanced perfectly.
Now.. go read on their official site if you want real info.
Ok now I know for certain youre a troll. You didn't answer the questions directly and gave answers I wasn't even talking about.
Although GW 2 may try out some new types of quests, they are still using text. lol I follow GW 2 and haven't heard anything about full voice overs which means they have to use text for some characters.
GW 2 promises dynamic missions. Hmm, that sounds like a SRPG element. And even then I'd bet on TOR taking the more MMO route because they allow multiple party members to influence choices in the mission. Multiple player choice is good combined with quest branching.
GW 2 melee combat looks boring and WoW like. Look at the videos of real gameplay that show actual weapon contact, blocking, blaster bolt deflection, jumping, charging, stunning in TOR. All GW 2 has released is something that looks like WoW with nicer textures and fluff camera angles lol.
It wouldn't be Star Wars without some kind of encounter in space, even if space is not explorable. Look at KotOR 1 + 2. And of course other planets. GW 2 is still just one planet, even less than WoW.
I did not criticize GW pvp lol. From playing GW for a few years I can't say it wasn't better than Eve Online, WoW, or WAR, or DAoC pvp to me. But the one thing that will be a good change in TOR is finally being able to have weapons come in contact with each other instead of watching your character swing at the air randomly and seeing the enemy's health drop lol.
And no mention of the light and dark alignment system that accounts for all the player's decisions. Actually gives the character some repercussions for the choices they make and can be compared to other players alignment.
And no mention of story immersion, which Bioware is top of the heap at and Arena.net and Blizzard are... not.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
Read threads and next time you enter arguments, try doing it with your main account instead of a brand new one.
Oh wait... you got banned then started new account to continue arguing is that it.
I got you HAHAHA
You've been here for longer then two days, don't lie. And haven't specified anything, you've linked articles with no explination. And when I broke it down, you never debated it, you avoided it almost entirely.
Main account is gone. I'll give you a hint as to who I am.
You totally got me Benjola, I can't resist making people look stupid. Luckily you're still around.
Norm Norm Norm comon now, TL,DR dude, stop quoting walls of text I been schooling blind fanbois for 10 hours str8 heh, I´m tired, keep it short and clear if you want me to read your posts.
Oops, 14 sentences. Who can read that? Ok try the last 3 sentences.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
From early on when first announced they already told it would be a themepark mmo ala wow, with some difference and in starwars universe.
So critizise what you want you eather like it or not hehe.
It was never planned to be a uo or swg clone.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Norm Norm Norm comon now, TL,DR dude, stop quoting walls of text I been schooling blind fanbois for 10 hours str8 heh, I´m tired, keep it short and clear if you want me to read your posts.
Oops, 14 sentences. Who can read that? Ok try the last 3 sentences.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
Ok, fair enough, you gonna play ToR, I will play GW2 we all win.
Anything else
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Read threads and next time you enter arguments, try doing it with your main account instead of a brand new one.
Oh wait... you got banned then started new account to continue arguing is that it.
I got you HAHAHA
You've been here for longer then two days, don't lie. And haven't specified anything, you've linked articles with no explination. And when I broke it down, you never debated it, you avoided it almost entirely.
Main account is gone. I'll give you a hint as to who I am.
You totally got me Benjola, I can't resist making people look stupid. Luckily you're still around.
Lol why am I always right.
You totally pwned your own account man daaam.
You will be missed... I think... if i figure out who tf you are heh.
Not like I was trying to hide it, Benjola.
That's your area of expertise it seems. LIke you hiding the fact that you would take information I posted (like the translation) sharing it with your clan/guild, whatever they was. You seemed pretty hyped, do you suffer from schizophrenia? You know what I'm talking about, they however, don't.
Norm Norm Norm comon now, TL,DR dude, stop quoting walls of text I been schooling blind fanbois for 10 hours str8 heh, I´m tired, keep it short and clear if you want me to read your posts.
Oops, 14 sentences. Who can read that? Ok try the last 3 sentences.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
Ok, fair enough, you gonna play ToR, I will play GW2 we all win.
Anything else
You and Kaiser should probably stick with something simple for your minds. ToR will probably be too compcliated for your single minds. BTW you should report instead of calling someone a troll. Because now you can be reported.
Like everyone said GW2 will be like WoW so what is the difference? Because GW2 has a little rival you have to come here to put it down? We now know the fact you don't like the game so why keep posting and don't give that bulls**t answer saying 'well we hope it was made just for ME because you're so important above others. As I said stick to things that are single for your mind since you can't seem to read or understand basic English.
That's your area of expertise it seems. LIke you hiding the fact that you would take information I posted (like the translation) sharing it with your clan/guild, whatever they was. You seemed pretty hyped, do you suffer from schizophrenia? You know what I'm talking about, they however, don't.
No dude I have no clue what you talking about I swear heh.
I have never reported anyone, never in my life, I love conflicts too much to do that.
I havent ran a guild since I quit EQ like 4 years ago heh I have no clue what you talking about.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Like everyone said GW2 will be like WoW so what is the difference? Because GW2 has a little rival you have to come here to put it down? We now know the fact you don't like the game so why keep posting and don't give that bulls**t answer saying 'well we hope it was made just for ME because you're so important above others. As I said stick to things that are single for your mind since you can't seem to read or understand basic English.
pathetic effort.
lets make a deal.
I'll admit that GW2 is totaly WOW clone then you admit SWTOR is a wow clone ok?
I'll go first:
Maaaaan GUILD WARS 2 IS SUCH A WOW CLONE IS NOT EVEN FUNNY!
Now your turn BE A MAN!
My bet is you cant do it..
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
And you have about what with ToR? I didn't do any personal attacks here you're the one going around calling someone a 'troll' and 'kid'. Someone here is in need of growing up still.
That's your area of expertise it seems. LIke you hiding the fact that you would take information I posted (like the translation) sharing it with your clan/guild, whatever they was. You seemed pretty hyped, do you suffer from schizophrenia? You know what I'm talking about, they however, don't.
No dude I have no clue what you talking about I swear heh.
I have never reported anyone, never in my life, I love conflicts too much to do that.
I havent ran a guild since I quit EQ like 4 years ago heh I have no clue what you talking about.
You've just gone full blown retarded
I didn't say you reported me, is that some sort of guilt leak?
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. I never said you ran it, I seen your post on a forum that appears to be gone. A simple google search of the translation brought it up for me a few days after I released it. And I've seen you multiple times post here saying ToR was looking better. Pick a side and stick to it.
Norm Norm Norm comon now, TL,DR dude, stop quoting walls of text I been schooling blind fanbois for 10 hours str8 heh, I´m tired, keep it short and clear if you want me to read your posts.
Oops, 14 sentences. Who can read that? Ok try the last 3 sentences.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
Ok, fair enough, you gonna play ToR, I will play GW2 we all win.
Anything else
Or, you can play GW2. And I can try both TOR and GW2 and end up playing the one that delivers on their promises and gives the best quality play experience. (which will probably be TOR)
Like everyone said GW2 will be like WoW so what is the difference? Because GW2 has a little rival you have to come here to put it down? We now know the fact you don't like the game so why keep posting and don't give that bulls**t answer saying 'well we hope it was made just for ME because you're so important above others. As I said stick to things that are single for your mind since you can't seem to read or understand basic English.
Like everyone said GW2 will be like WoW so what is the difference? Because GW2 has a little rival you have to come here to put it down? We now know the fact you don't like the game so why keep posting and don't give that bulls**t answer saying 'well we hope it was made just for ME because you're so important above others. As I said stick to things that are single for your mind since you can't seem to read or understand basic English.
pathetic effort.
lets make a deal.
I'll admit that GW2 is totaly WOW clone then you admit SWTOR is a wow clone ok?
I'll go first:
Maaaaan GUILD WARS 2 IS SUCH A WOW CLONE IS NOT EVEN FUNNY!
Now your turn BE A MAN!
My bet is you cant do it..
Facts are facts they said the crafting and pvp were like WoW other than that is much on its own. Not everyone here is a man. Like I said some people don't know how to READ. Only because I said those little guys LaLaFells and Asuras look alike he got all mad and puffy and was like NAAAA GW2 is going to own all. But hey I'll let the little guy keep thinking that. Probably don't have much of an ego to call someone a kid and a troll.
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Lets not forget that there are certain Quests in TOR where you can just lie to the Quest giver in order to get a lesser/superior Rewards .
So you can finish some Quests by just talking and bluffing to the NPC.
There are also quests where you can get yourself in EXTRA trouble by bluffing. Someone who got to try out the game mentioned something about how they lied to a character who had mentioned them being familiar and then when they went along with the lie, the NPC revealed that the player he mistaked him for was someone who owed him money and that he had better pay up now or "Suffer the consequences!"
Wow, i'm glad that a GW2 fanboi's opinion of TOR and even myself is so low. What should i do now.
Look, i very happy you are totally in love with GW2. You can sit here and repeat the same bullshit opinion about a game all you want. The facts remain that GW2 is not that much differant that TOR.
I mean, i can keep repeating it, but, a simple way is to sit back with a pen and paper and without any personal feelings about both games, write a list of what is actually in the games as of today, a side by side list. when you are done you will see that they pretty much are alike and there's a few systems that are differant.
No body here is trying to convince you to like TOR, actually no one thinks you should be here at all, since it's obvious you're not gonna play TOR. You really need to be hanging in the GW2 forums praising and critizing that game like most of us are doing with this game.
And notice the OUR refrence.
Some dudes are delusional and cant debate for shiat.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
You tried comparing them and embarrassed yourself.
You gave false info.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
That is really the best thing to come out of these threads
They highlight the douches that we won't have to deal with in-game while we're playing TOR!
Please elaborate, As i did not give any false information. i would like to know what was false.
Ok now I know for certain youre a troll. You didn't answer the questions directly and gave answers I wasn't even talking about.
Although GW 2 may try out some new types of quests, they are still using text. lol I follow GW 2 and haven't heard anything about full voice overs which means they have to use text for some characters.
GW 2 promises dynamic missions. Hmm, that sounds like a SRPG element. And even then I'd bet on TOR taking the more MMO route because they allow multiple party members to influence choices in the mission. Multiple player choice is good combined with quest branching.
GW 2 melee combat looks boring and WoW like. Look at the videos of real gameplay that show actual weapon contact, blocking, blaster bolt deflection, jumping, charging, stunning in TOR. All GW 2 has released is something that looks like WoW with nicer textures and fluff camera angles lol.
It wouldn't be Star Wars without some kind of encounter in space, even if space is not explorable. Look at KotOR 1 + 2. And of course other planets. GW 2 is still just one planet, even less than WoW.
I did not criticize GW pvp lol. From playing GW for a few years I can't say it wasn't better than Eve Online, WoW, or WAR, or DAoC pvp to me. But the one thing that will be a good change in TOR is finally being able to have weapons come in contact with each other instead of watching your character swing at the air randomly and seeing the enemy's health drop lol.
And no mention of the light and dark alignment system that accounts for all the player's decisions. Actually gives the character some repercussions for the choices they make and can be compared to other players alignment.
And no mention of story immersion, which Bioware is top of the heap at and Arena.net and Blizzard are... not.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
/Trollmode
GW2 is gonna be one of the biggest wow clones ever. Aint sh*t is gonna be different. Besides maybe the looks.
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
I concur.
VIVA LA WOW.
VIVA LA REVOLUTIOOOOOON.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
You've been here for longer then two days, don't lie. And haven't specified anything, you've linked articles with no explination. And when I broke it down, you never debated it, you avoided it almost entirely.
Main account is gone. I'll give you a hint as to who I am.
You totally got me Benjola, I can't resist making people look stupid. Luckily you're still around.
Oops, 14 sentences. Who can read that? Ok try the last 3 sentences.
If we just want to boil it down to massively multiplayer story and pvp, the only reasons I play the MMO anymore, the gameplay videos of combat make me want to play TORs pvp more than GW 2 pvp. And the gameplay videos make me want to play TORs story more the GW 2s story. In fact GW 2 seems more like WoW in terms of story + pvp mechanics than TOR O.o.
From early on when first announced they already told it would be a themepark mmo ala wow, with some difference and in starwars universe.
So critizise what you want you eather like it or not hehe.
It was never planned to be a uo or swg clone.
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Ok, fair enough, you gonna play ToR, I will play GW2 we all win.
Anything else
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Not like I was trying to hide it, Benjola.
That's your area of expertise it seems. LIke you hiding the fact that you would take information I posted (like the translation) sharing it with your clan/guild, whatever they was. You seemed pretty hyped, do you suffer from schizophrenia? You know what I'm talking about, they however, don't.
You and Kaiser should probably stick with something simple for your minds. ToR will probably be too compcliated for your single minds. BTW you should report instead of calling someone a troll. Because now you can be reported.
They've said it will be in between Themepark and Sandbox. A combination of the two.
Like everyone said GW2 will be like WoW so what is the difference? Because GW2 has a little rival you have to come here to put it down? We now know the fact you don't like the game so why keep posting and don't give that bulls**t answer saying 'well we hope it was made just for ME because you're so important above others. As I said stick to things that are single for your mind since you can't seem to read or understand basic English.
No dude I have no clue what you talking about I swear heh.
I have never reported anyone, never in my life, I love conflicts too much to do that.
I havent ran a guild since I quit EQ like 4 years ago heh I have no clue what you talking about.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
pathetic effort.
lets make a deal.
I'll admit that GW2 is totaly WOW clone then you admit SWTOR is a wow clone ok?
I'll go first:
Maaaaan GUILD WARS 2 IS SUCH A WOW CLONE IS NOT EVEN FUNNY!
Now your turn BE A MAN!
My bet is you cant do it..
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
And you have about what with ToR? I didn't do any personal attacks here you're the one going around calling someone a 'troll' and 'kid'. Someone here is in need of growing up still.
You've just gone full blown retarded
I didn't say you reported me, is that some sort of guilt leak?
I think you know exactly what I'm talking about. I never said you ran it, I seen your post on a forum that appears to be gone. A simple google search of the translation brought it up for me a few days after I released it. And I've seen you multiple times post here saying ToR was looking better. Pick a side and stick to it.
Or, you can play GW2. And I can try both TOR and GW2 and end up playing the one that delivers on their promises and gives the best quality play experience. (which will probably be TOR)
But it is a WoW clone.
Facts are facts they said the crafting and pvp were like WoW other than that is much on its own. Not everyone here is a man. Like I said some people don't know how to READ. Only because I said those little guys LaLaFells and Asuras look alike he got all mad and puffy and was like NAAAA GW2 is going to own all. But hey I'll let the little guy keep thinking that. Probably don't have much of an ego to call someone a kid and a troll.