Why would someone else's opinion on a game mean anything to you? Or for that matter, anyone else's opinion on anything?
Play and do what you want and stop letting other people affect you.
I'm perfectly happy to discussing how i feel Aion dropped the ball big time in the west, when it could have been everything i and averyone i play with was hoping for. This doesn't mean i'm a hater, it means i expected something less shallow.
Taste in graphics is too subjective to comment on. I've seen a lot of textures in Aion that simply weren't finished. The combat is like WoW except you press a button twice.
Aion's graphics are the best compared to all current MMO's out there, that is a fact. There are some landscapes that have bad looking textures, I agree, but really dude.... It's MUCH better than any other MMO's graphics out there.
As for the Combat being like WoW? I don't think so mate, Does Wow have Martial arts combat? Nope. Because The melee combat is absolutely gorgeous! and again the graphics and animation for the combat in Aion is definitely much better than WOW. And no you can't deny that, because it's a matter of fact. If you have played Aion than you should know that. Any reader that doesn't believe me? Go to youtube and check out the combat gameplay footage for both games.
I'm guessing that by the pressing a button twice you mean the chain moves, that is a much better system than wow instead of having to press 1, 2, 3 ,4 , 5 ,6 etc... you just tap the one button to perform that action along with it's chain moves and then you move on to the next. Otherwise you will have way Too many hotbars just like WOW, which will only increases the pain of my RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) lol.
I do have to agree with you on the lack of content mate, but here is the question. Did you not thoroughly enjoy the game before you got to the End game? I know I did, and then when I got to end game, I just created an alt and levelled that instead and enjoyed it again.
The other downside is the incredible lag during MASS fortress sieges, but when you remove the models and reduce the graphics it's still enjoyable. Although I do wish that I didn't have to do that.
The game is not perfect but it is in my opinion definitely better than the current MMO's out there (even with the lack of content).
Having said that, I'm tired of MMO's for the time being, Playing Mass Effect 2 at the moment and playing some DLC's for Dragon Age: Origins. Nothing beats single player games, but who knows maybe Starwars the Old republic might change that. Eh?
Off the top of my head I'd say Age of Conan with DX10 set to max pretty much blows Aion out of the water, and AoC is a fair bit older than Aion.
I meant the combat system being the same, not the fighting style. You put a skill on a hotbar, you press it, and watch an animation. The only difference is the animation is different and in Aion one ability chains into another ability. Yes, the animations are all very flashy and visually stunning, but the core system is no different from most of the current MMO's. I fail to see how the chain system is vastly different from anything else.
Leveling was okay until around 40. Killing thousands of reskinned mobs didn't really excite me but the sporadic PVP was fun. I've heard the repeatables helped with this, but for me repeatable quests do not equate to meaningful content. Leveling an alt? The game is linear to a fault, I can't imagine doing the exact same content for a second time unless you plan to twink.
Like I said, I like Aion, but it faces a lot of the faults most Korean MMO's do in the west. Grindtastic and lack of content being the two major ones. It'll make do until FFXIV, Tera, GW2, TOR, or Cata comes out -- for me that's not exactly a point in its favor. It just means Aion is a way for me to waste time until something better comes a long, not an MMO I could ever see myself playing for any great length of time.
Usually if a game has a lot of haters, it's because the game really isn't all that. Will some stil like the game? Yes.
I didn't stick with Aion because I hit a nasty wall in my high 30's. I didn't like standing in the same place killing the same mob over and over and really geting nowhere. I pretty much was playing as if I was botting. Wasn't having any fun plus, the Abyss pvp was a joke. Rifting pvp was probably the best thing Aion had going and crafting was ok.
Hopefully you find some cool peeps to play with that will motivate you over that wall once you reach it.
Well as someone who actually got to level 39 before quitting I can list off a few good reasons people don't like this game.
#1. Silly restrictions and rules. - The first instance NTC can only be run once every 16 hours and ONLY from level 25-28. Seems silly huh? You gotta wait until level 30+ to run the next one and the drop rate even after being buffed is still very very bad.
#2. Grinding- I like the grind in some games, I played FFXI for 4 years I'm not stranger to grinding, but when you pretty much have to duo kill hundreds upon thousands of monsters in a tiny small area on the map before moving on to the NEXT small area to grind hundreds upon thousands of mobs. All of which are of course attached to a repeatable quest. Just did not feel fun, honestly I prefered FFXI's grind BY FAR.
#3. The PVP, its not balanced, not even close, they say its suposed to be group vs group balanced but I don't see that happeneing much either, when a level 50 can kite 3 or 4 other level 50s around and can't be touched by them for several hours, thats hardly balanced. The Fortress battles are very very laggy too, even if you have a high end computer and a few meg a second internet connection its going to be lag city for most of the fights, and it will only be worse now that they merged servers.
I really had high hopes for Aion but there are just a lot of game breaking features that take away from the fun. Hope your experience is better than mine.
Usually if a game has a lot of haters, it's because the game really isn't all that. Will some stil like the game? Yes.
I didn't stick with Aion because I hit a nasty wall in my high 30's. I didn't like standing in the same place killing the same mob over and over and really geting nowhere. I pretty much was playing as if I was botting. Wasn't having any fun plus, the Abyss pvp was a joke. Rifting pvp was probably the best thing Aion had going and crafting was ok.
Hopefully you find some cool peeps to play with that will motivate you over that wall once you reach it.
This would be me. My character is level 39 and has been there for the past few months because I just can't stand the idea of grinding anymore (levels 37 and 38 were a horror)
My son tells me it picks up a lot once you get to 40+, especially with the new patch and that must be true since his character is now 49.5.
But, he did say to me the other day he's in no hurry to get to 50 because once there you will either be doing the PVP or running the same few dungeons for the most part and this actually sends a lot of players out the door.
Next expansion will help a lot of that.
I still keep my sub open thinking I'll return one day and get him to 50, but so far, no motivation to do so.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Well as someone who actually got to level 39 before quitting I can list off a few good reasons people don't like this game.
#1. Silly restrictions and rules. - The first instance NTC can only be run once every 16 hours and ONLY from level 25-28. Seems silly huh? You gotta wait until level 30+ to run the next one and the drop rate even after being buffed is still very very bad.
#2. Grinding- I like the grind in some games, I played FFXI for 4 years I'm not stranger to grinding, but when you pretty much have to duo kill hundreds upon thousands of monsters in a tiny small area on the map before moving on to the NEXT small area to grind hundreds upon thousands of mobs. All of which are of course attached to a repeatable quest. Just did not feel fun, honestly I prefered FFXI's grind BY FAR.
#3. The PVP, its not balanced, not even close, they say its suposed to be group vs group balanced but I don't see that happeneing much either, when a level 50 can kite 3 or 4 other level 50s around and can't be touched by them for several hours, thats hardly balanced. The Fortress battles are very very laggy too, even if you have a high end computer and a few meg a second internet connection its going to be lag city for most of the fights, and it will only be worse now that they merged servers.
I really had high hopes for Aion but there are just a lot of game breaking features that take away from the fun. Hope your experience is better than mine.
I think you just came at it with the wrong perspective. I found a good legion and we all chatted it up in vent will going through dungean after dungean. The levels seemed to fly by for us.
this game is not nearly as bas as some people say it is. it's gorgeous, plays smooth (except large scale pvp), it's colorfull, it's quite fun if you dont take it too seriously. i'v actually really enjoyed my time in Aion. never quite got to end game but loved the graphics, the world, the scenery, the Abyss, the rifting, the flying combat, the combat animation, the art style. yes in the end the grind did get to me (arround levle 41 ). also my servers started going dead and i didn't feel like rerolling from scratch on a one other server. the game has it's faults, like all mmos, but it's definately worth playing if you'v never done so. the you'll make your mind up if it's your cup of tea or not. good luck
I think you just came at it with the wrong perspective. I found a good legion and we all chatted it up in vent will going through dungean after dungean. The levels seemed to fly by for us.
I was in a very active legion and played with three real life friends, was just way too dull and I got tired of killing the same cute monster with pointy ears. I mean seriously I killed several thousand of them from just one series of repeatable quests. The Zones also don't flow together very well either, Keeping in mind this is all as an Asmodean, I dunno your results may varry as an Elyos.
My biggest complaint really is that the world felt REALLY SMALL once you got access to most of it, I dunno I just felt like I was grinding in one tiny part of a tiny world and then moving on to the next tiny part. I've been playing MMO's since UO was the only option and I'd have to say this world felt the smallest, even compared to DAOC which I also thought had a small world per faction.
I'll repeat what someone said in an earlier thread because i agree with it.
The first 3 months of the game were great, when i had tons of my friends to play with, as it hid the grind for me. Everyone was basically the same level and had the same gear. Instances were always buzzing and the mid level area's were packed. This was back in early December when i dinged 50.
My second time through game game, however, made me want to pull my hair out. All of my friends had quit out of bordome (after a few hundred DP runs, it gets monotonous). Out oft he 40 people i came to the game with, only 2 were left. Which by the way is crazy because we were used to it taking 8+ months to get to max level in FFXI (this was back in '04, it's much quicker now). I was basically standing in one spot and acting like a bot until i level. I avoided this the first time through by running instances anytime i could ( i practically went 43-50 in DC).
I realized that the game was not condusive to new blood due to the mid level area's being packed with bored level 50's ruinning twinks and destroying everyone. Most of us obviously got to avoid all of this the first time through.
After learning a lot from a previous thread I've made which I find out the the current state of MMO's are all bad really, I've decided to settle with Aion and now have resubbed. Well I chose this because of these listed reasons.
1. Lost my WoW account to hackers and is currently banned.
2. Codemasters themselves lost my Lord of the Rings account.
3. Everquest 2 graphics work poorly when running on my high powered computer.
So that's the top 3 gone off from me. Personally I don't think Aion is that bad, it has good graphics, aerial combat and great character creation. As far as I'm aware the servers are going to merge so I'm wondering now what European server is worth rolling a new character onto. If nobody has any answers then should I always roll on the server with the best influence of either faction I pick?
Also, any good Legion/guilds whatever you call them?
I did the same with Co recently and i freakign love it. However.
Incoming the most facetious post ever on mmorpg. Haha. This is so bad that calling it facetious is in itself is facetious.
Im sick of the haters
1. My girlfriend left me.
2. I lost my computer.
3. Alcohol doesn't cut it.
So thats three reasons for me to do black tar heroin becuase im sick of the haters, personally i don't think its bad, the high is great, and as far as i am aware there are no side effects. So im looking for a good amount to start with, so you know i don't od, how much should i start with?
Ok PLEASE DON'T DO DRUGS. I don't even drink alcohol and no girl would ever date me so that part of the story wasn't true (i just can't stop). Besides there are better alrenitives like baiting to porn on the internet... there is alot of porn and you can do it all day and best of all it cheep. The only draw backs are high volume of toilet paper consumption and you smell rather dirty often.... becuase who are you kinding i know i rarely bathe and if you bait 1/2 as much as i do you might get clean once a month or so.
Anyway There are often reason for haters, or for people dislikeing something. At some points there is no real reason to like for say ... why people use mac and think they are god and hate on pcs. (sidenote. you are allowed to use linux and hate on PCs but not macs, they are as the name says macintrashes [sidenote's sidenote. This in itself was hating on my part but their is a reason, just becuase you don't like windows task bar or something doesn't mean you should you a mac... the real reason to use a mac is becuase your highschool computer teacher told you they r gud and you believed them or your dad/uncle is steve jobs]).
What this all means is basiclly many people wanted and still want aion to be gud so they are sick of the haters but in all honesty aion has nothign to offer but a long leveling grind... thats it.
Character customization is the most limited in any mmo i have played (including eq and doac games super freakign old) Co has the best CC ever
Graphics are good but not omgs, this is the best thing it has going for it but and fps /single player game beats it.
Pvp is horibad, Co/daoc/ wows (is somehow better)/ DF/eve all better
Combat is liner and never varies
Air combat is bad, it is. there are soem games with alright air combat aions not oen of them.
End game has some stuff to do but all of it is pointless or slow. and just not fun imho
So yes there are haters for for few reason.
Oh ps had you not wanted comments of the later nature then don't attack the "haters" in your post title just try ... "Starting Aion what server?" Becuase us "Haters" are not so much haters becuase peopel in-touch with reality or at least the reality that aion is a steaming asian pile (that smelt good from a far, dam that msg).
Interesting notes about this post.
"2. I lost my computers" orrginally read "2. I love my computer" becuase i had a freudian slip. So sad
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Ive played a lot of MMO's for 12 years now and can say that playing any MMO has always been better with friends and a decent guild. I leveled through Aion the first time with friends who all quit by level 30 so I did level 30-50 alone mostly and that was a horrible grind. My second time around I joined a decent guild early and did a lot of content with them and in general had more fun, the grind went away. Point is if you race to get 50 you will feel it, if you take your time and enjoy the game and do different things you wont. WIth the new server merges last night its also a lot easier to get groups for stuff
I don't know about grind cause my character is level 12. I did the same as op and bought the game on an impulsion when i saw it at the store.
So far i'm having the blast, the game is nice to look at, runs well. The quests are interesting. Plus the community seems pretty damn nice compared to most of the mmo's i played, maybe it will change but so far everybody has been cool. Last night i aggroed 3 mobs and some higher level guy that was passing by asked me if i needed help, i said yes and he killed them, otherwise i would have died.
Maybe i'll get bored before i hit 50, but so far i'm loving it.
I preordered to get into the beta. I didnt pick up my preorder. Not that it is a bad game just nothing really different than other fantasy MMO's which I already owned. The graphics are very nice and a big plus to the game in my opinion.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
It was fun in beta up to about level 20 then it became a bit boring and by level 30 it had become so tedious that I could hardly bring myself to log in anymore.
Whos fault is that?
The boring and tedious gameplay perhaps?
Nooooooo.... it must be the players.
Edit: spelling
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
U'll love it for the same reasons some of the other guys posted here but after hitting endgame in 3-4 months and killing over 100.000 of mobs (wish i was joking about the number) to get ur required quest items u'll learn to embrace the dark side and start hating aswell.
Aion may be one of the best MMOs out there now but lacks same thing as the rest of them.
less of the evils out there is why i play, i enjoy both Aion and Aoc and have both subbed and just dive in and play a few hrs here and there by the time I even hit what people consider the grind (from my post launch experience that was 38ish) TOR will almost be here.
Criticism is not a bad thing when it's constructive. If I were a developer, I'd feel blessed to have a passionate community that voices their concerns and ideas for the future. Sometimes people get carried away, but at its core criticism moves things forward.
I guess criticism of a game with unbearable Korean grind, game breaking RNG mechanics, a wonky PVP system, and almost no content is considered trolling. I see tons of constructive suggestions to NCWest daily. Guess how many times a developer has responded or even talked about design philosophy with the community. They can't even be bothered to translate Korean developer feedback for western players. NCWest has proven, as they have in the past, that they are inept at managing an MMO, and worse yet, inept at managing, supporting, and building a good relationship with their NA community.
I think Aion has great potential to be one of the few polished PVP focused games, but I see it for what it is -- a game with empty promises to be westernized and adjusted to the tastes of the market. People bought into the westernizaton concept as they followed it throughout development only to find out later that the only difference between the versions is language. Looking back on it, I realize there was a reason to cap all the betas to level 30. If they allowed people to test the full game it would have been written off as another Korean grinder. Call it naivete, but I was hopeful that for once a Korean port would "get it right."
Taste in graphics is too subjective to comment on. I've seen a lot of textures in Aion that simply weren't finished. The combat is like WoW except you press a button twice.
Aion's graphics are the best compared to all current MMO's out there, that is a fact. There are some landscapes that have bad looking textures, I agree, but really dude.... It's MUCH better than any other MMO's graphics out there.
As for the Combat being like WoW? I don't think so mate, Does Wow have Martial arts combat? Nope. Because The melee combat is absolutely gorgeous! and again the graphics and animation for the combat in Aion is definitely much better than WOW. And no you can't deny that, because it's a matter of fact. If you have played Aion than you should know that. Any reader that doesn't believe me? Go to youtube and check out the combat gameplay footage for both games.
I'm guessing that by the pressing a button twice you mean the chain moves, that is a much better system than wow instead of having to press 1, 2, 3 ,4 , 5 ,6 etc... you just tap the one button to perform that action along with it's chain moves and then you move on to the next. Otherwise you will have way Too many hotbars just like WOW, which will only increases the pain of my RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) lol.
I do have to agree with you on the lack of content mate, but here is the question. Did you not thoroughly enjoy the game before you got to the End game? I know I did, and then when I got to end game, I just created an alt and levelled that instead and enjoyed it again.
The other downside is the incredible lag during MASS fortress sieges, but when you remove the models and reduce the graphics it's still enjoyable. Although I do wish that I didn't have to do that.
The game is not perfect but it is in my opinion definitely better than the current MMO's out there (even with the lack of content).
Having said that, I'm tired of MMO's for the time being, Playing Mass Effect 2 at the moment and playing some DLC's for Dragon Age: Origins. Nothing beats single player games, but who knows maybe Starwars the Old republic might change that. Eh?
Off the top of my head I'd say Age of Conan with DX10 set to max pretty much blows Aion out of the water, and AoC is a fair bit older than Aion.
I meant the combat system being the same, not the fighting style. You put a skill on a hotbar, you press it, and watch an animation. The only difference is the animation is different and in Aion one ability chains into another ability. Yes, the animations are all very flashy and visually stunning, but the core system is no different from most of the current MMO's. I fail to see how the chain system is vastly different from anything else.
Leveling was okay until around 40. Killing thousands of reskinned mobs didn't really excite me but the sporadic PVP was fun. I've heard the repeatables helped with this, but for me repeatable quests do not equate to meaningful content. Leveling an alt? The game is linear to a fault, I can't imagine doing the exact same content for a second time unless you plan to twink.
Like I said, I like Aion, but it faces a lot of the faults most Korean MMO's do in the west. Grindtastic and lack of content being the two major ones. It'll make do until FFXIV, Tera, GW2, TOR, or Cata comes out -- for me that's not exactly a point in its favor. It just means Aion is a way for me to waste time until something better comes a long, not an MMO I could ever see myself playing for any great length of time.
Age Of Conan graphics are still just as bland as they always were. Aion has the best graphics of any game out atm. I do agree that some parts of the game do look bland at time but its not that many.
Taste in graphics is too subjective to comment on. I've seen a lot of textures in Aion that simply weren't finished. The combat is like WoW except you press a button twice.
Aion's graphics are the best compared to all current MMO's out there, that is a fact. There are some landscapes that have bad looking textures, I agree, but really dude.... It's MUCH better than any other MMO's graphics out there.
As for the Combat being like WoW? I don't think so mate, Does Wow have Martial arts combat? Nope. Because The melee combat is absolutely gorgeous! and again the graphics and animation for the combat in Aion is definitely much better than WOW. And no you can't deny that, because it's a matter of fact. If you have played Aion than you should know that. Any reader that doesn't believe me? Go to youtube and check out the combat gameplay footage for both games.
I'm guessing that by the pressing a button twice you mean the chain moves, that is a much better system than wow instead of having to press 1, 2, 3 ,4 , 5 ,6 etc... you just tap the one button to perform that action along with it's chain moves and then you move on to the next. Otherwise you will have way Too many hotbars just like WOW, which will only increases the pain of my RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury) lol.
I do have to agree with you on the lack of content mate, but here is the question. Did you not thoroughly enjoy the game before you got to the End game? I know I did, and then when I got to end game, I just created an alt and levelled that instead and enjoyed it again.
The other downside is the incredible lag during MASS fortress sieges, but when you remove the models and reduce the graphics it's still enjoyable. Although I do wish that I didn't have to do that.
The game is not perfect but it is in my opinion definitely better than the current MMO's out there (even with the lack of content).
Having said that, I'm tired of MMO's for the time being, Playing Mass Effect 2 at the moment and playing some DLC's for Dragon Age: Origins. Nothing beats single player games, but who knows maybe Starwars the Old republic might change that. Eh?
Off the top of my head I'd say Age of Conan with DX10 set to max pretty much blows Aion out of the water, and AoC is a fair bit older than Aion.
I meant the combat system being the same, not the fighting style. You put a skill on a hotbar, you press it, and watch an animation. The only difference is the animation is different and in Aion one ability chains into another ability. Yes, the animations are all very flashy and visually stunning, but the core system is no different from most of the current MMO's. I fail to see how the chain system is vastly different from anything else.
Leveling was okay until around 40. Killing thousands of reskinned mobs didn't really excite me but the sporadic PVP was fun. I've heard the repeatables helped with this, but for me repeatable quests do not equate to meaningful content. Leveling an alt? The game is linear to a fault, I can't imagine doing the exact same content for a second time unless you plan to twink.
Like I said, I like Aion, but it faces a lot of the faults most Korean MMO's do in the west. Grindtastic and lack of content being the two major ones. It'll make do until FFXIV, Tera, GW2, TOR, or Cata comes out -- for me that's not exactly a point in its favor. It just means Aion is a way for me to waste time until something better comes a long, not an MMO I could ever see myself playing for any great length of time.
Age Of Conan graphics are still just as bland as they always were. Aion has the best graphics of any game out atm. I do agree that some parts of the game do look bland at time but its not that many.
If by bland you mean more realistic I'd agree. Not everything can be covered in rainbow sparkles. In terms of graphical quality I still contend that AoC is the best on the market. In terms of art style? Not even worth discussing as it's personal preference.
Good for you! Technically I fall under the 'haters' category but you should never let any type of 'hater' deter you from playing a game you like, that's just silly. I hope more people realize what you have and take the same stance with their respective games. I know I've played a handful of games that most would condemn yet had a dang fun time playing them.
Well, I did at least gave the game another chance and to be honest I'm all too happy with it, I think I just came to realise Aion wasn't really my thing. But it's true when you use the topic title with any game, just because a game you like is disliked by others doesn't mean you should dislike it too, you should only dislike a game if you dislike it yourself from your own personal experience.
I'm going to download Dungeons & Dragons Online again and play that, stats are complex but at least it's more of an MMO I like, reguardless of the mouse button mashing.
I'm going to download Dungeons & Dragons Online again and play that, stats are complex but at least it's more of an MMO I like, reguardless of the mouse button mashing.
I'll tell you what I had to tell Uqiupu 5 times already.
[hold the mouse button down]
Anyone who hasn't figured out that you don't need to spam click needs a morning coffee fed interveinously.
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I'm going to download Dungeons & Dragons Online again and play that, stats are complex but at least it's more of an MMO I like, reguardless of the mouse button mashing.
I'll tell you what I had to tell Uqiupu 5 times already.
[hold the mouse button down]
Anyone who hasn't figured out that you don't need to spam click needs a morning coffee fed interveinously.
After learning a lot from a previous thread I've made which I find out the the current state of MMO's are all bad really, I've decided to settle with Aion and now have resubbed. Well I chose this because of these listed reasons.
1. Lost my WoW account to hackers and is currently banned.
2. Codemasters themselves lost my Lord of the Rings account.
3. Everquest 2 graphics work poorly when running on my high powered computer.
So that's the top 3 gone off from me. Personally I don't think Aion is that bad, it has good graphics, aerial combat and great character creation. As far as I'm aware the servers are going to merge so I'm wondering now what European server is worth rolling a new character onto. If nobody has any answers then should I always roll on the server with the best influence of either faction I pick?
Also, any good Legion/guilds whatever you call them?
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Why would someone else's opinion on a game mean anything to you? Or for that matter, anyone else's opinion on anything?
Play and do what you want and stop letting other people affect you.
I'm perfectly happy to discussing how i feel Aion dropped the ball big time in the west, when it could have been everything i and averyone i play with was hoping for. This doesn't mean i'm a hater, it means i expected something less shallow.
Off the top of my head I'd say Age of Conan with DX10 set to max pretty much blows Aion out of the water, and AoC is a fair bit older than Aion.
I meant the combat system being the same, not the fighting style. You put a skill on a hotbar, you press it, and watch an animation. The only difference is the animation is different and in Aion one ability chains into another ability. Yes, the animations are all very flashy and visually stunning, but the core system is no different from most of the current MMO's. I fail to see how the chain system is vastly different from anything else.
Leveling was okay until around 40. Killing thousands of reskinned mobs didn't really excite me but the sporadic PVP was fun. I've heard the repeatables helped with this, but for me repeatable quests do not equate to meaningful content. Leveling an alt? The game is linear to a fault, I can't imagine doing the exact same content for a second time unless you plan to twink.
Like I said, I like Aion, but it faces a lot of the faults most Korean MMO's do in the west. Grindtastic and lack of content being the two major ones. It'll make do until FFXIV, Tera, GW2, TOR, or Cata comes out -- for me that's not exactly a point in its favor. It just means Aion is a way for me to waste time until something better comes a long, not an MMO I could ever see myself playing for any great length of time.
Usually if a game has a lot of haters, it's because the game really isn't all that. Will some stil like the game? Yes.
I didn't stick with Aion because I hit a nasty wall in my high 30's. I didn't like standing in the same place killing the same mob over and over and really geting nowhere. I pretty much was playing as if I was botting. Wasn't having any fun plus, the Abyss pvp was a joke. Rifting pvp was probably the best thing Aion had going and crafting was ok.
Hopefully you find some cool peeps to play with that will motivate you over that wall once you reach it.
Well as someone who actually got to level 39 before quitting I can list off a few good reasons people don't like this game.
#1. Silly restrictions and rules. - The first instance NTC can only be run once every 16 hours and ONLY from level 25-28. Seems silly huh? You gotta wait until level 30+ to run the next one and the drop rate even after being buffed is still very very bad.
#2. Grinding- I like the grind in some games, I played FFXI for 4 years I'm not stranger to grinding, but when you pretty much have to duo kill hundreds upon thousands of monsters in a tiny small area on the map before moving on to the NEXT small area to grind hundreds upon thousands of mobs. All of which are of course attached to a repeatable quest. Just did not feel fun, honestly I prefered FFXI's grind BY FAR.
#3. The PVP, its not balanced, not even close, they say its suposed to be group vs group balanced but I don't see that happeneing much either, when a level 50 can kite 3 or 4 other level 50s around and can't be touched by them for several hours, thats hardly balanced. The Fortress battles are very very laggy too, even if you have a high end computer and a few meg a second internet connection its going to be lag city for most of the fights, and it will only be worse now that they merged servers.
I really had high hopes for Aion but there are just a lot of game breaking features that take away from the fun. Hope your experience is better than mine.
This would be me. My character is level 39 and has been there for the past few months because I just can't stand the idea of grinding anymore (levels 37 and 38 were a horror)
My son tells me it picks up a lot once you get to 40+, especially with the new patch and that must be true since his character is now 49.5.
But, he did say to me the other day he's in no hurry to get to 50 because once there you will either be doing the PVP or running the same few dungeons for the most part and this actually sends a lot of players out the door.
Next expansion will help a lot of that.
I still keep my sub open thinking I'll return one day and get him to 50, but so far, no motivation to do so.
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I think you just came at it with the wrong perspective. I found a good legion and we all chatted it up in vent will going through dungean after dungean. The levels seemed to fly by for us.
this game is not nearly as bas as some people say it is. it's gorgeous, plays smooth (except large scale pvp), it's colorfull, it's quite fun if you dont take it too seriously. i'v actually really enjoyed my time in Aion. never quite got to end game but loved the graphics, the world, the scenery, the Abyss, the rifting, the flying combat, the combat animation, the art style. yes in the end the grind did get to me (arround levle 41 ). also my servers started going dead and i didn't feel like rerolling from scratch on a one other server. the game has it's faults, like all mmos, but it's definately worth playing if you'v never done so. the you'll make your mind up if it's your cup of tea or not. good luck
I was in a very active legion and played with three real life friends, was just way too dull and I got tired of killing the same cute monster with pointy ears. I mean seriously I killed several thousand of them from just one series of repeatable quests. The Zones also don't flow together very well either, Keeping in mind this is all as an Asmodean, I dunno your results may varry as an Elyos.
My biggest complaint really is that the world felt REALLY SMALL once you got access to most of it, I dunno I just felt like I was grinding in one tiny part of a tiny world and then moving on to the next tiny part. I've been playing MMO's since UO was the only option and I'd have to say this world felt the smallest, even compared to DAOC which I also thought had a small world per faction.
I'll repeat what someone said in an earlier thread because i agree with it.
The first 3 months of the game were great, when i had tons of my friends to play with, as it hid the grind for me. Everyone was basically the same level and had the same gear. Instances were always buzzing and the mid level area's were packed. This was back in early December when i dinged 50.
My second time through game game, however, made me want to pull my hair out. All of my friends had quit out of bordome (after a few hundred DP runs, it gets monotonous). Out oft he 40 people i came to the game with, only 2 were left. Which by the way is crazy because we were used to it taking 8+ months to get to max level in FFXI (this was back in '04, it's much quicker now). I was basically standing in one spot and acting like a bot until i level. I avoided this the first time through by running instances anytime i could ( i practically went 43-50 in DC).
I realized that the game was not condusive to new blood due to the mid level area's being packed with bored level 50's ruinning twinks and destroying everyone. Most of us obviously got to avoid all of this the first time through.
I did the same with Co recently and i freakign love it. However.
Incoming the most facetious post ever on mmorpg. Haha. This is so bad that calling it facetious is in itself is facetious.
Im sick of the haters
1. My girlfriend left me.
2. I lost my computer.
3. Alcohol doesn't cut it.
So thats three reasons for me to do black tar heroin becuase im sick of the haters, personally i don't think its bad, the high is great, and as far as i am aware there are no side effects. So im looking for a good amount to start with, so you know i don't od, how much should i start with?
Ok PLEASE DON'T DO DRUGS. I don't even drink alcohol and no girl would ever date me so that part of the story wasn't true (i just can't stop). Besides there are better alrenitives like baiting to porn on the internet... there is alot of porn and you can do it all day and best of all it cheep. The only draw backs are high volume of toilet paper consumption and you smell rather dirty often.... becuase who are you kinding i know i rarely bathe and if you bait 1/2 as much as i do you might get clean once a month or so.
Anyway There are often reason for haters, or for people dislikeing something. At some points there is no real reason to like for say ... why people use mac and think they are god and hate on pcs. (sidenote. you are allowed to use linux and hate on PCs but not macs, they are as the name says macintrashes [sidenote's sidenote. This in itself was hating on my part but their is a reason, just becuase you don't like windows task bar or something doesn't mean you should you a mac... the real reason to use a mac is becuase your highschool computer teacher told you they r gud and you believed them or your dad/uncle is steve jobs]).
What this all means is basiclly many people wanted and still want aion to be gud so they are sick of the haters but in all honesty aion has nothign to offer but a long leveling grind... thats it.
Character customization is the most limited in any mmo i have played (including eq and doac games super freakign old) Co has the best CC ever
Graphics are good but not omgs, this is the best thing it has going for it but and fps /single player game beats it.
Pvp is horibad, Co/daoc/ wows (is somehow better)/ DF/eve all better
Combat is liner and never varies
Air combat is bad, it is. there are soem games with alright air combat aions not oen of them.
End game has some stuff to do but all of it is pointless or slow. and just not fun imho
So yes there are haters for for few reason.
Oh ps had you not wanted comments of the later nature then don't attack the "haters" in your post title just try ... "Starting Aion what server?" Becuase us "Haters" are not so much haters becuase peopel in-touch with reality or at least the reality that aion is a steaming asian pile (that smelt good from a far, dam that msg).
Interesting notes about this post.
"2. I lost my computers" orrginally read "2. I love my computer" becuase i had a freudian slip. So sad
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Ive played a lot of MMO's for 12 years now and can say that playing any MMO has always been better with friends and a decent guild. I leveled through Aion the first time with friends who all quit by level 30 so I did level 30-50 alone mostly and that was a horrible grind. My second time around I joined a decent guild early and did a lot of content with them and in general had more fun, the grind went away. Point is if you race to get 50 you will feel it, if you take your time and enjoy the game and do different things you wont. WIth the new server merges last night its also a lot easier to get groups for stuff
I don't know about grind cause my character is level 12. I did the same as op and bought the game on an impulsion when i saw it at the store.
So far i'm having the blast, the game is nice to look at, runs well. The quests are interesting. Plus the community seems pretty damn nice compared to most of the mmo's i played, maybe it will change but so far everybody has been cool. Last night i aggroed 3 mobs and some higher level guy that was passing by asked me if i needed help, i said yes and he killed them, otherwise i would have died.
Maybe i'll get bored before i hit 50, but so far i'm loving it.
I preordered to get into the beta. I didnt pick up my preorder. Not that it is a bad game just nothing really different than other fantasy MMO's which I already owned. The graphics are very nice and a big plus to the game in my opinion.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
I don't hate the game.
It was fun in beta up to about level 20 then it became a bit boring and by level 30 it had become so tedious that I could hardly bring myself to log in anymore.
Whos fault is that?
The boring and tedious gameplay perhaps?
Nooooooo.... it must be the players.
Edit: spelling
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
"Fed up with the haters, I'm going to play this game anyway."
U'll love it for the same reasons some of the other guys posted here but after hitting endgame in 3-4 months and killing over 100.000 of mobs (wish i was joking about the number) to get ur required quest items u'll learn to embrace the dark side and start hating aswell.
Aion may be one of the best MMOs out there now but lacks same thing as the rest of them.
-> Content! Content! Content! <-
Wumi - SWG - Bloodfin - Cancelled
Wumi - WoW - Eu-Kazzak - Cancelled
Bulldozer - Aion - Eu-Kahrun - Cancelled
Wumi - Rift - EU-Riptalon - Cancelled
less of the evils out there is why i play, i enjoy both Aion and Aoc and have both subbed and just dive in and play a few hrs here and there by the time I even hit what people consider the grind (from my post launch experience that was 38ish) TOR will almost be here.
If people would follow haters advice no mmorpg game would have players! Most haters are just trolls.
Criticism is not a bad thing when it's constructive. If I were a developer, I'd feel blessed to have a passionate community that voices their concerns and ideas for the future. Sometimes people get carried away, but at its core criticism moves things forward.
I guess criticism of a game with unbearable Korean grind, game breaking RNG mechanics, a wonky PVP system, and almost no content is considered trolling. I see tons of constructive suggestions to NCWest daily. Guess how many times a developer has responded or even talked about design philosophy with the community. They can't even be bothered to translate Korean developer feedback for western players. NCWest has proven, as they have in the past, that they are inept at managing an MMO, and worse yet, inept at managing, supporting, and building a good relationship with their NA community.
I think Aion has great potential to be one of the few polished PVP focused games, but I see it for what it is -- a game with empty promises to be westernized and adjusted to the tastes of the market. People bought into the westernizaton concept as they followed it throughout development only to find out later that the only difference between the versions is language. Looking back on it, I realize there was a reason to cap all the betas to level 30. If they allowed people to test the full game it would have been written off as another Korean grinder. Call it naivete, but I was hopeful that for once a Korean port would "get it right."
Age Of Conan graphics are still just as bland as they always were. Aion has the best graphics of any game out atm. I do agree that some parts of the game do look bland at time but its not that many.
If by bland you mean more realistic I'd agree. Not everything can be covered in rainbow sparkles. In terms of graphical quality I still contend that AoC is the best on the market. In terms of art style? Not even worth discussing as it's personal preference.
Good for you! Technically I fall under the 'haters' category but you should never let any type of 'hater' deter you from playing a game you like, that's just silly. I hope more people realize what you have and take the same stance with their respective games. I know I've played a handful of games that most would condemn yet had a dang fun time playing them.
*****UPDATE*****
Well, I did at least gave the game another chance and to be honest I'm all too happy with it, I think I just came to realise Aion wasn't really my thing. But it's true when you use the topic title with any game, just because a game you like is disliked by others doesn't mean you should dislike it too, you should only dislike a game if you dislike it yourself from your own personal experience.
I'm going to download Dungeons & Dragons Online again and play that, stats are complex but at least it's more of an MMO I like, reguardless of the mouse button mashing.
I'll tell you what I had to tell Uqiupu 5 times already.
[hold the mouse button down]
Anyone who hasn't figured out that you don't need to spam click needs a morning coffee fed interveinously.
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