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  • hakuhnhakuhn Member UncommonPosts: 1

    I scored about an 1800 ...

    Should I still give this game a shot even though it will be "slow" on my computer?

  • DareantkDareantk Member Posts: 106

    Originally posted by hakuhn

    I scored about an 1800 ...

    Should I still give this game a shot even though it will be "slow" on my computer?

    Is that on low? Should be more than playable but don't expect it to run fantastic. Your call on on how important it means to you to have really good settings + framerates.

     


    Originally posted by KingKong007

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Eh, we'll see.

  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    Originally posted by Dareantk


    Originally posted by KingKong007

    according to a few sources I gathered Nvidia still handles effects better than the raw power of ATI and the new 465 was relatively cheap - 250 dollars.

     

     

    Lol I don't know what that means....anyway, I'd imagine your high will be 3500+.

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

    A fast SSD is already slated as my next upgrade. Since I just did a fresh install of Win 7, I want to get the new drive while there isn't much I'll have to reinstall. :) I'd be curious to hear what kind of impact it does have on MMO performance. (Even with my current system,still have hitcing when textures load in LotRO, I wonder if installing it on an SSD would make the hitching a lot less noticeable).

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  • DozaDoza Member Posts: 9

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

    8GB RAM

    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series  X2

     

    This got me just over 4000 on low.

     

    Would upgrading to a Radeon HD 5850 1GB make my score jump up to 5k+?

  • AllizarAllizar Member Posts: 54

    4843 on high

    8260ish on low

     

    I7 930

    6gb ddr3 1600

    Gforce 480

  • xcaliburxcalibur Member Posts: 571

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    Originally posted by Dareantk


    Originally posted by KingKong007

    according to a few sources I gathered Nvidia still handles effects better than the raw power of ATI and the new 465 was relatively cheap - 250 dollars.

     

     

    Lol I don't know what that means....anyway, I'd imagine your high will be 3500+.

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Not to me.

    Then again, depends how well the game you are playing is coded.

  • xcaliburxcalibur Member Posts: 571

    Originally posted by Doza

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

    8GB RAM

    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series  X2

     

    This got me just over 4000 on low.

     

    Would upgrading to a Radeon HD 5850 1GB make my score jump up to 5k+?

    Did you do the fullscreen/crossfire hack mentioned earlier in the thread?  If not, it's only using one card.

    2 4870's or 4890's is a decent amount faster than a 5850

  • DozaDoza Member Posts: 9

    Originally posted by xcalibur

    Originally posted by Doza

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

    8GB RAM

    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series  X2

     

    This got me just over 4000 on low.

     

    Would upgrading to a Radeon HD 5850 1GB make my score jump up to 5k+?

    Did you do the fullscreen/crossfire hack mentioned earlier in the thread?  If not, it's only using one card.

    2 4870's or 4890's is a decent amount faster than a 5850

     Yeah I did, and my cards are 4850's.

  • xcaliburxcalibur Member Posts: 571

    Originally posted by Doza

    Originally posted by xcalibur


    Originally posted by Doza

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

    8GB RAM

    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series  X2

     

    This got me just over 4000 on low.

     

    Would upgrading to a Radeon HD 5850 1GB make my score jump up to 5k+?

    Did you do the fullscreen/crossfire hack mentioned earlier in the thread?  If not, it's only using one card.

    2 4870's or 4890's is a decent amount faster than a 5850

     Yeah I did, and my cards are 4850's.

    Curious, did you try running on high?  If the scores are similar it probably indicates that your processor is the bottleneck on low.

    I got like 4500 on high and 4750 on low on an athlon x4 @ 3.6ghz.

  • DozaDoza Member Posts: 9

    Originally posted by xcalibur

    Originally posted by Doza

    Originally posted by xcalibur

    Originally posted by Doza

    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

    8GB RAM

    ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series  X2

     

    This got me just over 4000 on low.

     

    Would upgrading to a Radeon HD 5850 1GB make my score jump up to 5k+?

    Did you do the fullscreen/crossfire hack mentioned earlier in the thread?  If not, it's only using one card.

    2 4870's or 4890's is a decent amount faster than a 5850

     Yeah I did, and my cards are 4850's.

    Curious, did you try running on high?  If the scores are similar it probably indicates that your processor is the bottleneck on low.

    I got like 4500 on high and 4750 on low on an athlon x4 @ 3.6ghz.

     No I haven't been able to run it on high, it crashes every time I try to do so. I think my monitor maxes out at 1600x900 so that may be the reason.

     

    Either way, will upgrading my 4850x2 to a 5850 make any big difference...or too hard to tell?

  • xcaliburxcalibur Member Posts: 571

    Either way, will upgrading my 4850x2 to a 5850 make any big difference...or too hard to tell?

     

    No, it won't. Even a 5870 would only be a minor improvement, and if your CPU is the bottleneck it wouldn't really increase at all.
  • DareantkDareantk Member Posts: 106

    A 5870 would be the like first single card I would advise you to upgrade to, and even that wouldn't be OMG better.

  • AzureblazeAzureblaze Member UncommonPosts: 130

    First time I got 2200 something. (High, Random Race)

     

    Second time I downloaded latest DirectX from microsoft/.com/directx and latest WHQL Video card driver :

     

    2485 (High, Random Race)

    3119 (Low, Random Race)

    Both tests got around 12.5k load times (ms)

    Specs :

    C2D E8400 3.0Ghz (Not Overclocked)

    Asus P5N32-E SLI

    HD 2 7200 RPM Seagate 320GB Raid 0

    1 BFG GTX 260 (*Overclocked Version) MaxOC or something they call it.

    Win7 X64

    4GB 800mhz Dual Channel DDR2 (Mushkin Blackline)

     

    I think I'll just get a new vid card, maybe a higher end 470 - and I'll be able to play the way I want to.

     

     

  • AzureblazeAzureblaze Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Originally posted by ceforlife

    Originally posted by KingKong007


    Originally posted by Dareantk


    Originally posted by KingKong007

    according to a few sources I gathered Nvidia still handles effects better than the raw power of ATI and the new 465 was relatively cheap - 250 dollars.

     

     

    Lol I don't know what that means....anyway, I'd imagine your high will be 3500+.

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Also, this post caught my eye.  Not sure what the dealie-o is, but I heard that solid state drives slow down with time.  Gues it's something to do with their defragging process?  *shrugs*  I just thought it was interesting.  Anyways, guess for the time being, they are still not all that great.  Instead, go with a super expensive, driver nightmare SCSI drive for the 15,000 RPM that'll make your house shake! ;)

    Some SSD's come with addiontal ultitlies that keep the Memory clean to avoid the slow-down overtime issue, and also TRIM helps this. (Windows 7 thing) So basically the issue can be fixed if it happens to you..

  • KingKong007KingKong007 Member Posts: 149

    Originally posted by Azureblaze

    Originally posted by ceforlife

    Originally posted by KingKong007

     

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Also, this post caught my eye.  Not sure what the dealie-o is, but I heard that solid state drives slow down with time.  Gues it's something to do with their defragging process?  *shrugs*  I just thought it was interesting.  Anyways, guess for the time being, they are still not all that great.  Instead, go with a super expensive, driver nightmare SCSI drive for the 15,000 RPM that'll make your house shake! ;)

    Some SSD's come with addiontal ultitlies that keep the Memory clean to avoid the slow-down overtime issue, and also TRIM helps this. (Windows 7 thing) So basically the issue can be fixed if it happens to you..

    Like I said I opted for the OCZSSD2- 100 GB vertex 2 S-Ata

    You get a 5X faster data access than an average HD. http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html

    Until now MMO's had the problem of bringing big chuncks of unexpected and fragmented data to their CPU and video cards.

    Think about the well known portal effects when entering highly populated places like Dalaran or an on going world PvP battle like Wintergrasp in which you join.

    Suddenly a massive amount of fragmented info has to be loaded from the HD to the CPU.

    SSD's these  days are faster than those 15.000 RPM mechanical HD since they can be adressed without any mechanical heads. The seconds needed to transfer the data are reduced to being milli seconds and the more fragmented data to load ... the faster the process.

    On wikipedia you can find te basic info on this one year old technique and indeed like the guy above stated the best SSD's come with automatic TRIM included and Windows 7 supports the SSD's. I am planning to get the basic OS and one or two favorite MMo's on the SSD.

    The guy at the shop showed me a WOW example: Dalaran was loaded with all player data in "wham" the blink of an eye. As I was used to see all the player data load for ... 10 seconds on my system, it conviced me right away.

    If you see players spending 400+ dollars to have a 30% gain in graphics cards ... I think they'd better use that kind of money to gain .... 500/600% speed on data access from the SSD.

    These SSD's will replace the standards mechanical HD's in no time and they will have a huge impact on data handling in MMO's. Games like AoC (massive loading of seperate instances like inns and cities) will benifit from it the most.

    MMO's with lower vectors (really a necessity these days) will be a thing of the past in 2-3 years time.

  • AllizarAllizar Member Posts: 54

    I have a 120 gig SSD with 2 mirrored 1.5T HD's for storage, it's night and day over my previous setup

  • xcaliburxcalibur Member Posts: 571

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    Originally posted by Azureblaze


    Originally posted by ceforlife


    Originally posted by KingKong007


     

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Also, this post caught my eye.  Not sure what the dealie-o is, but I heard that solid state drives slow down with time.  Gues it's something to do with their defragging process?  *shrugs*  I just thought it was interesting.  Anyways, guess for the time being, they are still not all that great.  Instead, go with a super expensive, driver nightmare SCSI drive for the 15,000 RPM that'll make your house shake! ;)

    Some SSD's come with addiontal ultitlies that keep the Memory clean to avoid the slow-down overtime issue, and also TRIM helps this. (Windows 7 thing) So basically the issue can be fixed if it happens to you..

    Like I said I opted for the OCZSSD2- 100 GB vertex 2 S-Ata

    You get a 5X faster data access than an average HD. http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html

    Until now MMO's had the problem of bringing big chuncks of unexpected and fragmented data to their CPU and video cards.

    Think about the well known portal effects when entering highly populated places like Dalaran or an on going world PvP battle like Wintergrasp in which you join.

    Suddenly a massive amount of fragmented info has to be loaded from the HD to the CPU.

    SSD's these  days are faster than those 15.000 RPM mechanical HD since they can be adressed without any mechanical heads. The seconds needed to transfer the data are reduced to being milli seconds and the more fragmented data to load ... the faster the process.

    On wikipedia you can find te basic info on this one year old technique and indeed like the guy above stated the best SSD's come with automatic TRIM included and Windows 7 supports the SSD's. I am planning to get the basic OS and one or two favorite MMo's on the SSD.

    The guy at the shop showed me a WOW example: Dalaran was loaded with all player data in "wham" the blink of an eye. As I was used to see all the player data load for ... 10 seconds on my system, it conviced me right away.

    If you see players spending 400+ dollars to have a 30% gain in graphics cards ... I think they'd better use that kind of money to gain .... 500/600% speed on data access from the SSD.

    These SSD's will replace the standards mechanical HD's in no time and they will have a huge impact on data handling in MMO's. Games like AoC (massive loading of seperate instances like inns and cities) will benifit from it the most.

    MMO's with lower vectors (really a necessity these days) will be a thing of the past in 2-3 years time.

    Seems more like a convenience thing to me.  Not that I'd spend $400 for 30% faster framerates, but I'd rather have 30% smoother framerates during a battle that matters than the convenience of Dalaran loading a few seconds faster.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by Azureblaze

    Originally posted by ceforlife

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    Originally posted by Dareantk

    Originally posted by KingKong007

    according to a few sources I gathered Nvidia still handles effects better than the raw power of ATI and the new 465 was relatively cheap - 250 dollars.

     

     

    Lol I don't know what that means....anyway, I'd imagine your high will be 3500+.

    Thank you for the answer... odd that no one mentions the super fast SSD hard disks above.

    MMO's will get boosted in the coming years with these. 5X fatser data transfers are  more important than a 30 % gain in video output.

     

    Also, this post caught my eye.  Not sure what the dealie-o is, but I heard that solid state drives slow down with time.  Gues it's something to do with their defragging process?  *shrugs*  I just thought it was interesting.  Anyways, guess for the time being, they are still not all that great.  Instead, go with a super expensive, driver nightmare SCSI drive for the 15,000 RPM that'll make your house shake! ;)

    Some SSD's come with addiontal ultitlies that keep the Memory clean to avoid the slow-down overtime issue, and also TRIM helps this. (Windows 7 thing) So basically the issue can be fixed if it happens to you..

     heh ye ahopefully ig et a beta invite so ic ans ee if ill want to get a ssd for games

  • DragonOpt1DragonOpt1 Member Posts: 78

    Well, I'm a little sad. I have a Quad-Core 2.4 Intel Q6600, 4GB ram,Windows 7 64-bit and my new Nvidia EVGA 460 gtx. My score on low is 3345 and on high it's 2400. With my old 8800GT I was getting 3060ish on low, kinda of disappointed...

    I overclocked my cpu before I installed the new 460gtx and got about 3400....so should I just be happy with my 3300ish score or get a new cpu?

    This is my motherboard  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131197

    Think the only thing I can get is either a higher Quad-core or Duo-core...don't really know if cores matter much in this game, cause I could get a cheaper Duo-core like a 3.0 or something. Any suggestions? Just kinda sad lol thought the gtx460 would atleast get me close to 3600-3800.

  • AzureblazeAzureblaze Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Originally posted by DragonOpt1

    Well, I'm a little sad. I have a Quad-Core 2.4 Intel Q6600, 4GB ram,Windows 7 64-bit and my new Nvidia EVGA 460 gtx. My score on low is 3345 and on high it's 2400. With my old 8800GT I was getting 3060ish on low, kinda of disappointed...

    I overclocked my cpu before I installed the new 460gtx and got about 3400....so should I just be happy with my 3300ish score or get a new cpu?

    This is my motherboard  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131197

    Think the only thing I can get is either a higher Quad-core or Duo-core...don't really know if cores matter much in this game, cause I could get a cheaper Duo-core like a 3.0 or something. Any suggestions? Just kinda sad lol thought the gtx460 would atleast get me close to 3600-3800.

     

    Hmm well, first make sure you have the latest DirectX / Chipset / Video Card Drivers.

    Then re-run the test!

     

    Are you using a newer or older HD? Newer ones are just a lot faster, in general. SSD is on a different level compleltey if you can afford it.

     

    I think, from the tests and scores I've seen -- You may need more Mhz to keep up with FFXIV so your GPU can do what it should.

     

    My score is higher than yours on a 260GTX(on high) , but I have a  E8400 C2D 3.0Ghz processor and Raid 0.  So..unless something is really out of wack on your computer it's probably your processor or combination of that and your HD if you are using one from an old build, may be an issue. I know even on Raid 0 I'm getting some frame drops due to HD loads. ( I noitced at least 1 spike drop that seemed to be HD load)

    A system is only as fast as it's slowest component.

    SSD..WANT!. :)

  • DragonOpt1DragonOpt1 Member Posts: 78

    My Hard drive is a Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA, it's the only thing on my Windows 7 index that's below a 6.5.

    Windows rates it at 5.9

  • AzureblazeAzureblaze Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Originally posted by DragonOpt1

    My Hard drive is a Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA, it's the only thing on my Windows 7 index that's below a 6.5.

    Windows rates it at 5.9

    My HD scores the same interestly enough..5.9

     

    My graphics scores are both 7.1 , Cpu/RAM 6.5 each.

     

    Btw - I wouldn't worry too much, I have a friend in beta his score on benchmark is only 1300 something and he was playing fine he said.

  • DareantkDareantk Member Posts: 106

    Originally posted by DragonOpt1

    Well, I'm a little sad. I have a Quad-Core 2.4 Intel Q6600, 4GB ram,Windows 7 64-bit and my new Nvidia EVGA 460 gtx. My score on low is 3345 and on high it's 2400. With my old 8800GT I was getting 3060ish on low, kinda of disappointed...

    I overclocked my cpu before I installed the new 460gtx and got about 3400....so should I just be happy with my 3300ish score or get a new cpu?

    This is my motherboard  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131197

    Think the only thing I can get is either a higher Quad-core or Duo-core...don't really know if cores matter much in this game, cause I could get a cheaper Duo-core like a 3.0 or something. Any suggestions? Just kinda sad lol thought the gtx460 would atleast get me close to 3600-3800.

     

    I don't know if your processor is ACTUALLY bottlenecking the graphics card, but for the benchmark, and the low especially, processor heavily influences the score and I don't believe you would get much more on low regardless of your card. Take a look

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94743

    The highest low with a q6600 is at 3.6ghz and has a radeon 5870 almost hitting 4k, right under him are two q6600's at 3.6 and 3.4 with only a nvidia 9800 and 8800 almost scoring the same. You can see how little the graphics card means for the low since a 5870 is like triple those cards. The highest low is over 8k and only has a radeon 5850, but a freaking i7 980x processor.

     

    Don't worry about it until the game is actually out. If it's not playing as good as you want it, a new motherboard + processor is probably in order. I don't think anything you could upgrade to on the same motherboard would be worth the price.

  • xxmulveyxxxxmulveyxx Member Posts: 9

    I just ran the test, scored a 1076 with 12762ms load time. I have Windows 7 Home Premium, Quad Q8300, Nvidia GT220, 8GB ram. That score was on low, I also tried on high and scored in the 500s. I know I don't have the most up to date computer, but I can't believe with those specs the game will be (according to the chart on the first post) unplayable for me. I can definitely see this hurting their subs if a machine like mine can't play the game. Anyone have any ideas on what could be causing such a low score? Thanks!

  • skoreanimeskoreanime Member Posts: 219

    Originally posted by xxmulveyxx

    I just ran the test, scored a 1076 with 12762ms load time. I have Windows 7 Home Premium, Quad Q8300, Nvidia GT220, 8GB ram. That score was on low, I also tried on high and scored in the 500s. I know I don't have the most up to date computer, but I can't believe with those specs the game will be (according to the chart on the first post) unplayable for me. I can definitely see this hurting their subs if a machine like mine can't play the game. Anyone have any ideas on what could be causing such a low score? Thanks!

    While your CPU is fine, your GPU is not much better then integrated chips.  Definitely a pre-built from the looks of it.  Replace that GPU (something around at least $250) and your score should more then double.

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