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too much hype?
cloud8521
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what does this even mean. i mean everyone who is againt this game doign well has some crazy idea that "Like every new mmo, people get really hyped.. turns out to be shitty" (thanks hype board :P). it feels these people are growing in number and spouting this as a religious practice. are they trolls? did they just read nothing? or do they belive it to be true? i really need answers, becasue saying that something will fail because its hype is too high is total bullshit and i am calling that out here and now. i know it may sound stupid but i need to hear why hiigh hype to some people= bad (unless ur devil girl who wants low hype to stop the pixel humping). explain now or forever hold your peace.
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I'm guessing apart from the above, some ppl are rationalising if the hype goes over a high point, the mmo should be reflected as revolutionary like for like rating.
More realistic and fair to GW2 is that there probably is not that many MMOs, maybe none, that are being developed that could promise a quality lasting/fun/successful/well-priced game to play that you can tell your mates about and not have them lynch you later on ; )
For me, maybe Lego universe, GW2 seem like games trying to be really creative or innovative experiences.
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Its not the hype that is bad for the game.
Its peopel's expectations getting to high, if people only compare the games funfactor at release to other games they have played, the game will be a true epic hit.
If people expect the holy grail of all MMO games, they only get dissapointed no matter how good a game is, this is what we should have learned from other hyped games.
Tough if hype is an indication at all, i have never seen a game hyped this high on this website for such a long periode of time.
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The hype has barely started. Imagine what will happen to the internet when they show us some actual high-level content. The 3 big bosses they've shown so far are level 1(earth ele), level 15(shadow behemoth) and The Shatterer who's in a level 45-50 area. People will probably not believe their eyes when they show of an ingame version of an elder dragons.
They've barely given us any PvP info wich is an equally important part of this game as the PvE. Imagine the PvP trailer. Looking at the quality of their previous trailers I can only imagine how epic it will look when they show us a birdseye's view of a 300 vs 300 people battle.
Then there's the dungeons.
Get used to the hype, it's only going to grow.
hype is a train people get on and start shouting "faster, faster"
Good companies go faster only if what they say is already in their game, some other shady ones, not realizing what their train is capable of (lying it seems, better money source in the short run) go faster.
People who say "too much hype" are the ones who got burned because of the crashes. Better heed them and dont get on board, even though the ride is fun.
I need more vespene gas.
why do you start hype topics again and again?! we got at least 10 already -.- hype is just a hype, people are excited about the game, and that's all. stop posting about it -.-
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When people vote to hype a game they are usually voting on its positive aspects. The hype rating is not so much a gauge on the quality of an upcoming game but more a measure of the amount of high expectations that people have of it.
As with all things the hype vote is one made in a context only valid to the person voting. The hype is so high because this game appeals to so many due to its many new mechanics and that appeals to an audience that dwarfs almost all games.
Active skill trigger mechanics - A playstyle that has been adopted from FPS. No auto attack here if you wanna win and you can cast on the move.
Active dodging input based jumping and rolling - Action / Adventure / Platform
RPG - Personal story with its multibranching story arcs to personalise the playthtrough each time - RPG
Persistant MMO world - MMO crowd
Dynamic Events - RTS / FPS - GW2 events now follow objectives just like RTS games. The events scale in size similarly just like in Left 4 Dead
Casual / Social Gaming - Bar fights, festival events and just casual individual and team mini games. Just like facebook I guess but in a persistant world
Real Time Real World interaction - The iPhone app. Talk to your friends online etc
This game promises so much to an unprecedented larger audience. Hype SHOULD be high for it. In fact its only the jaded few that vote it down I would say.
The proof was in the pudding at PAX and Gamescom. Arenanet achieved their goals there. They "Walked the walk" and even though people still say they didn't that type of experience is only 1 that can be judged 1st hand.
And yes the hype train will get faster and faster and yes peoples expectations become unrealistic at some point. But me personally I know that GW2 won't be a disappointment at all.
People are simply excited for the game, and are tired of games promising something better than WoW, then failing horribly after the few months. This is one of the first games in many years that takes itself seriously, has a lot of exciting features in it, has some of the most talented developers and game designers behind it (ArenaNet). Guild War 2 will not be the game that will kill WoW, since only Blizzard themselves can do that, it will be a game that is simply Awesome. ArenaNet are looking at things that a lot of other games have, noone likes them, yet noone does anything to remove them (for example, Grinding). They are taking a lot of very good features from a lot of MMO's and blending them all together in a way that will make the game a succes. Remember, inovation is not when someone introduces something new, but when someone takes that new feature, and implements it in a way that makes the product succesful.
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I don`t understand why poeple so angry on hype? If poeple hype it then its worth somethink, did it?
I think ANet prove that they not talking bullshit and doing that they talk, so lets wait next year and we will see it is it worth the hype or not.
Stop jealous on hype..!
you know for example theres still some people playing age of conan because of the Hype,and they still believe that someday it will be the game what was promised.
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let's all remember the hype train the WAR devs gave us for over a year. They spent more time on the road hyping the game it seemed than actually developing it. WAR for me was the greatest MMO disappointment of all time and I think hype had a small hand in it. The game was way overhyped. I mean they had hundreds of thousands of registered players maybe even millions before release.
So hype can be something that bites you in the ass if not handled properly.
Basically the devs of GW2 are only stating things that they know they can deliver on so that helps them alot. I kinda disagree on some of their supposed "dynamic" event terminology (to me its just a more intricate PQ) but in any case I think GW2 hype is fairly accurate of the game and not blown too far out of proportion.
My only concern is people will think that the game will provide true cause and effect resulting in a state of permanent change caused by the players through these dynamic events. Which it wont- therefore is the bad kind of hype - people expect one thing but get another.
I think two things are driving the Hype.
1. The current stagnant mmo market.
2. People are liking what they are seeing from ANet.
way to much hype for this game, it's amazing how much there is for a game that doesn't even have a release date.
I can't remember the last game that had as much hype on this site to be honest. I don't understand why, I don't see anything to special about this game, but maybe i'm biased because I didn't like the first one at all.
everyone is looking for a mmo that stands out from the rest. IF, and i do mean IF, anet can come up with a dynamic event/quest engine for their mmo, they will be the first company to succeed at it. probably nobody remembers when Blizzard promised dynamic quest/events. we all know it didn't make it into the game. i am skeptical that anet can do it on the scale they say they can.
besides that, i've seen the hype - trash cycle too much lately. hype of a game, then players trash it mercilessly the first hours after it is launched.
I dont know if there is too much hype, but I noticed that since the release of the gameplay vids, a lot of new ppl started to follow this game who's eyes got caught by the ingame action. Ppl who never played GW1 and are uninformed about GW2. Asking basic questions like how much influence NCSoft will have on the game or if GW2 will be nothing more but a f2p grindfest. All these questions are typical for people who didnt read up about GW2 or dont know what Arenanet did with GW. The repetition of this is starting to annoy me so much that I dont read many posts about GW2 anymore
I mean what can you do if some ppl refuse to read up about GW2 and keep stating 'facts' which are so obviously not true.
There is not too much official hype but there is an over abudnance of fan AND hater created hype on tih site.By this I mean threads about GW2 are kept in the Recent forum acitivity window on the front page by fans feelign they have to make a new post with every random thought they have aobut GW2 and those psots are kept in that window by both other fans and haters constantly responding with praise and hate.This is just normal for msot games and can be levelled to only a slightly less extent at SW:TOR and I'm sure will be applicable when RIFT,TERA and other MMOs come closer to release and have more official info provided.
i think many of you did not get the point of the tread and are only responding to the title
I can not think of anything actually promised by the Devs at ArenaNet that they have not delivered in Guild Wars (there were a few times where they were late). I don't expect that to change with Guild Wars 2. Mike O'Brian has stated that ArenaNet will not announce any feature until that featue is in the game and is working. They have announced a couple of things they are "working on" but they were also very clear that it was being worked on and not actually part of the game, yet.
With everything announced about the game the one thing no one (of any note) has said is that Guild Wars2 will be a WoW killer. The Devs don't even (pubicly) expect GW2 to be a GW killer.
Personally, I have a lot of concerns. I love Guild Wars, but have never found an "real" MMO that I could stand to play for more than an hour or two in total (I played Age of Conan for a total of 5 hours, WoW lasted all of three hours). Guild Wars 2 is going to be a "real" MMO, that concerns me. I really hope they don't make the same mistakes that is all too common in MMOs. Can I name an example of one of these mistakes? Graphics (I hate cartoons), Audio (I use, very heavly, my sense of hearing. as such the music should never detract from the ambiant background noises. I want to hear the mobs coming.). I want what I am doing to make sense, I want to know why I am doing what I am being asked to do. Sorry, being asked to go kill ten rats because I will get 10 gold is simply not enough of a reason to kill the rats. Now if the rats were spreading sickness that would be a different story.
With the recent release of in-game videos from Pax my personal hype meter went from 9.5 to 8.2. I really don't know why it dropped.
Back on topic, I don't really think the hype behind Guild Wars 2 is out of place or undeserved. I expect that, as usual, many of the very loud vidiots will be disappointed (they always are) when the game finally releases but most reasonable people will be quietly very pleased with the released game. In the end if you look at all the features promised, it will be in there. It may not be there quite the way you wanted it, but it will be in the game.
There's a HUGE difference here folks. Many game before GW2 had promise many things that didn't come into fruition. That's the reason for high hype and a disappointment after release.
ArenaNet is really smart in their marketing, they only talk about what's already in the game, that is fully functional. When they said you can swim, you can find video about it. Jump, you can find video about it also. Etc.
The fact is, ArenaNet knows and they've learned from other games that saying something you cannot deliver is foolish speak. So they made it a rule that they only talk about what is in the game, rather than pretend some thing is in game when it's not. Also they are really good when it comes to Community Relation. When something planned were not going to be in game, they relate that info to the community rather than make the players be disappointed to find that something is no where in the game (i.e. Henchmen, sidekick).
IMHO, the hype is well deserved and I do not doubt that ArenaNet will fail to deliver. My trust on them has not yet been broken.
Ready for GW2!!!
i still feel people are sidestepping my question.
Hype is illusionary. It doesn't mean anything in itself. People often confuse hype with expectation. Anyway, I find hype just an absurd notion.
I'd say they are usually only a troll if they try to pass off obvious false statements as truth and use that as a premise for their argument. If you see a thread trying to explain why GW2 is nothing special or bad, chances are it's a troll attempt. Don't argue, just report it.
If people try to argue that hype level is directly proportional to chance of failure, they probably just lack a grasp of logic/critical thinking or genuine lack of knowledge regarding the game industry/marketing/business, etc...in which case it's best to just calmly explain why they are incorrect rather than flaming them.
There are only 2 negative side-effects of having a high level of hype around a game that I can think of: 1) Larger interest, means more forum discussion, means more trolls. 2) Spreading of false information as a result of unrealistic expectations, leading to disappointment down the line. Neither of those are the fault of any game marketing department or developer, and can be avoided with some mental self-discipline.
yay the first direct answer!
You number 2 reason can be the fault of any game marketing department or developer.
If a dev says somthing that is clear to them what it means dosn't really mean it's clear to anyone else. luckly GW2 devs have been pretty good about killing misconceptions about the game pretty quickly.
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that only works for people who listen. to be frank.... the people we are tlakign about... dont do that
Well, not all of them. For one thing does a lot of morons here still think it will be as instanced as the first game no matter what anyone tells them.
The second misconception is that people seems to think that GW2 will have raids. It wont. If you are a raider you want another game.
But it is hardly the devs fault.