It could also be that 22 gigs free is what is required to both unpack AND install the game. The final amount of space used after the install process is finished could be a good bit less.
No, is 9.1 after instal. The dvd is 5. somethin gb.The only thin left now for actual diferent size is the first update.And i doubt you have to download 11GB right at start lol.It says you need 15gb of free space on the instruccions so it could be UP to 6g download. no more than that.
It also says that you require 6g of free space on my documents as well? idk heard that somewere. Im guessing we fans overreacted over the 22 gb client , im guessing that person said 22gb becouse 9G client+6gDownload+6GMy documents ?¿21GB and that SE rep said 22 so it kinda makes sence.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G.
So much for a 22g client LOL
Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G.
So much for a 22g client LOL
Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G. So much for a 22g client LOL Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that he measured the size appropriately. Meh, doesn't really matter, we'll see in 48 hours.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G.
So much for a 22g client LOL
Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that here's a technical issue with the way he measured it. Meh, we'll see.
Well, it doesn't mean there won't be some massive download either. It might be a bit obnoxious to players, but it could happen.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G.
So much for a 22g client LOL
Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that here's a technical issue with the way he measured it. Meh, we'll see.
There's no reason for him to lie. If he ordered the collector's edition, then more likely than not, he's a fan. I think he's right about the client size...which is unfortunate.
It doesn't change what I feel about the game or my enthusiasm for it, but it does pretty much show that beta and official release are going to be closer than some of us anticipated. For those of us that didn't care one way or another, it may cause some people to pass on the game or wait a few months before committing.
But, I do find it silly for people to base their decision on whether or not play based on the size of the client. If you didn't enjoy the game during Beta, don't buy the game. Yeah, there's going to be more stuff added to the game, but it's more of the same. For people who love what FFXIV is, that's more good news. For people that didn't enjoy the game during beta, more of the same is bad.
So...... official client size doesn't matter either way.
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G. So much for a 22g client LOL Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that here's a technical issue with the way he measured it. Meh, we'll see.
There's no reason for him to lie.
I can think of lots of reasons... however, I'm not necessarily saying he is. In any case, apparently it's a July 2010 version, so yeah, another couple months or so of patches coming...
Maybe they'll finally include some of those giant lizards that they keep showing low level characters battle in the trailers as dungeon content instead of more rank 40 squirrels. t.t
"Yeah that would be cool to have a lot of voice in it. I'm just not expecting the taru to have British accents. *still laughing*"
*cough LALAFELL cough*
which giant lizards the one that look like snakes? if so those were already in beta i saw some in uldah and lol i call them "Lawlawlfailz" :x
Guy that already got his CE says the client uncompressed is only 9.1G.
So much for a 22g client LOL
Now lets see how big is the update the 22, tsk tsk tsk
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that here's a technical issue with the way he measured it. Meh, we'll see.
There's no reason for him to lie.
I can think of lots of reasons... however, I'm not necessarily saying he is. In any case, apparently it's a July 2010 version, so yeah, another couple months or so of patches coming...
Yea thats my bigest fear, that im gonna have to expend my 8 days pre-release downloading patches.
O well ill get my copy tomorow then we can continue this discussion.
Not that im complaining , i would had payed for the CE anyways for all the extra stuf.But is indeed a bugger.
So judging by what we're hearing there'll be a 9Gb install and a 6Gb download, since game requirements say you need 15Gb for the game storage and 6 Gb for download. I'm guessing that means they are not planning on making any downloads bigger than 6Gb. I'm wondering if the 6 GB is the uncompressed size. The peer to peer downloader took me almost six hours to download the 4.5Gb OB so i'm hoping for a smaller download size at launch (or an improvement in the downloader). An improvement in the downloader is possible if only because a torrent download is dependant on other client computers as I understand it and people getting the retail should have better equipment on average. Would like to not have to wait another five hours before being able to play. But I suppose I'll live if that happens.
The beta client went out to the box manufactures months ago. It is the beta client, if not earlier.
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So judging by what we're hearing there'll be a 9Gb install and a 6Gb download, since game requirements say you need 15Gb for the game storage and 6 Gb for download. I'm guessing that means they are not planning on making any downloads bigger than 6Gb. I'm wondering if the 6 GB is the uncompressed size. The peer to peer downloader took me almost six hours to download the 4.5Gb OB so i'm hoping for a smaller download size at launch (or an improvement in the downloader). An improvement in the downloader is possible if only because a torrent download is dependant on other client computers as I understand it and people getting the retail should have better equipment on average. Would like to not have to wait another five hours before being able to play. But I suppose I'll live if that happens.
The quoted patch size, just like the game, will have an install overhead given it refers to the recommended space needed for install, and not to run the game. Assuming the quoted 6Gb isn't an over estimate I'd expect it to be around 4Gb on top on the existing client, once patched and installed.
It's possible that what they're listing as "15 gb install" partly refers to the swap files needed to make the installation occur, and by "6 gb download" they're referring to the largest expected size of a patch. They'll probably keep within space constraints pretty well considering they want this to be able to run on a PS3, which won't have the space you'd see on a PC.
Truth be told, even if it was "only" 9 GB overall, that's pretty damn big, especially considering the in-game cutscenes aren't pre-rendered. You can tell a lot of stories with several gigabytes worth of raw 3D/sound assets sitting around to be directed.
Even though it may not be there's all that much difference in size between beta and retail (and it would give the haters a bit more to chew on, and I don't like that) Square-Enix did disable a considerable amount of content so it won't be spoiled in release. This much they've said. In that event, it may not matter if we already had downloaded more content than we realized during open beta, it just wasn't enabled.
No, they are referring to the space needed to install. A patch still has to apply itself, which results in an overhead. That's why no game is as large as its quoted required space. Traditionally they must quote the install size, as they'd be ripped to shreds by any consumer rights if they quoted the run space and people (even if a small %) couldn't install it.
PS3 games are no different. That's one of the reasons it has a hard drive. The difference is more games tend to only do a partial install to the hard drive, running the rest from the disk.
SE disababled most of the story line, which is the bulk of the content. So they are correct in stating most of it is missing, and most already know that, as they've said it before. Given the nature of the story line (i.e. cut scenes, etc), 4gb sounds about right for the complete arc.
Not to mention, you know, this is just the basic game. Final Fantasy XI has three expansions and counting, chock full of mostly more story content. If XIV follows suit...
Not to mention, you know, this is just the basic game. Final Fantasy XI has three expansions and counting, chock full of mostly more story content. If XIV follows suit...
XI has more than 3 expansions, it had 3 expansions when I quit the game many years ago.
If the post at the bottom of this thread are true then it's only 433mb patch download. 6 gigs or more is a huge patch to ask your customers to download. Especially considering the 8 days head start. I'd say when the game goes live on the 30th there would be a max of 500MB-2gig patch.
I have installed and patched the game now, Install is 9gb with a 400mb patch, and im at the log in screen.
And I've read this all over the place as well. I say this just in case anyone wants to once again question the integrity of the poster based on nothing.
No such thing as a Miracle patch, but your hope is cute.
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No, is 9.1 after instal. The dvd is 5. somethin gb.The only thin left now for actual diferent size is the first update.And i doubt you have to download 11GB right at start lol.It says you need 15gb of free space on the instruccions so it could be UP to 6g download. no more than that.
It also says that you require 6g of free space on my documents as well? idk heard that somewere. Im guessing we fans overreacted over the 22 gb client , im guessing that person said 22gb becouse 9G client+6gDownload+6GMy documents ?¿21GB and that SE rep said 22 so it kinda makes sence.
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
Be patient. 2 more days and this argument will be over.
Here bud,
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/18676-pics-of-delivered-ce-client-information/
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
Here bud,
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/18676-pics-of-delivered-ce-client-information/
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that he measured the size appropriately. Meh, doesn't really matter, we'll see in 48 hours.
Well, it doesn't mean there won't be some massive download either. It might be a bit obnoxious to players, but it could happen.
There's no reason for him to lie. If he ordered the collector's edition, then more likely than not, he's a fan. I think he's right about the client size...which is unfortunate.
It doesn't change what I feel about the game or my enthusiasm for it, but it does pretty much show that beta and official release are going to be closer than some of us anticipated. For those of us that didn't care one way or another, it may cause some people to pass on the game or wait a few months before committing.
But, I do find it silly for people to base their decision on whether or not play based on the size of the client. If you didn't enjoy the game during Beta, don't buy the game. Yeah, there's going to be more stuff added to the game, but it's more of the same. For people who love what FFXIV is, that's more good news. For people that didn't enjoy the game during beta, more of the same is bad.
So...... official client size doesn't matter either way.
I'll believe it when I see it over any "guy [who says he] already got his CE." Way too easy to lie over the Internet to do otherwise.
I didn't want to point this out so much because I'm sure it'll cause much screaming and pulling of hair, but if you look at the system requirements page it says you should expect "6 GB or more" under "download."
Unless that 6GB is a shot in the dark at, "ever, throughout the lifetime of the game," we're in for a monsterous patch when we first connect to the servers.
Here bud,
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/18676-pics-of-delivered-ce-client-information/
is pretty real and it makes sence, that 22gb client always felt way to unreasonable anyways, the cds were printed way beforeopen beta.
The second post was just myself theorycrafting as to why that rep said 22. dont take it at hearth
He might have got his box, but that doesn't mean he's not necessarily pulling our chain about the client size, or even that here's a technical issue with the way he measured it. Meh, we'll see.
There's no reason for him to lie.
I can think of lots of reasons... however, I'm not necessarily saying he is. In any case, apparently it's a July 2010 version, so yeah, another couple months or so of patches coming...
which giant lizards the one that look like snakes? if so those were already in beta i saw some in uldah and lol i call them "Lawlawlfailz" :x
Yea thats my bigest fear, that im gonna have to expend my 8 days pre-release downloading patches.
O well ill get my copy tomorow then we can continue this discussion.
Not that im complaining , i would had payed for the CE anyways for all the extra stuf.But is indeed a bugger.
Yeah, looks like they are starting to arrive outside the U.S. anyway. A guy from Australia reported receiving his this morning but won't be able to install it until tomorrow. (http://www.zam.com/forum.html?game=268&mid=128497906950674708&page=1)
So judging by what we're hearing there'll be a 9Gb install and a 6Gb download, since game requirements say you need 15Gb for the game storage and 6 Gb for download. I'm guessing that means they are not planning on making any downloads bigger than 6Gb. I'm wondering if the 6 GB is the uncompressed size. The peer to peer downloader took me almost six hours to download the 4.5Gb OB so i'm hoping for a smaller download size at launch (or an improvement in the downloader). An improvement in the downloader is possible if only because a torrent download is dependant on other client computers as I understand it and people getting the retail should have better equipment on average. Would like to not have to wait another five hours before being able to play. But I suppose I'll live if that happens.
The beta client went out to the box manufactures months ago. It is the beta client, if not earlier.
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The quoted patch size, just like the game, will have an install overhead given it refers to the recommended space needed for install, and not to run the game. Assuming the quoted 6Gb isn't an over estimate I'd expect it to be around 4Gb on top on the existing client, once patched and installed.
It's possible that what they're listing as "15 gb install" partly refers to the swap files needed to make the installation occur, and by "6 gb download" they're referring to the largest expected size of a patch. They'll probably keep within space constraints pretty well considering they want this to be able to run on a PS3, which won't have the space you'd see on a PC.
Truth be told, even if it was "only" 9 GB overall, that's pretty damn big, especially considering the in-game cutscenes aren't pre-rendered. You can tell a lot of stories with several gigabytes worth of raw 3D/sound assets sitting around to be directed.
Even though it may not be there's all that much difference in size between beta and retail (and it would give the haters a bit more to chew on, and I don't like that) Square-Enix did disable a considerable amount of content so it won't be spoiled in release. This much they've said. In that event, it may not matter if we already had downloaded more content than we realized during open beta, it just wasn't enabled.
No, they are referring to the space needed to install. A patch still has to apply itself, which results in an overhead. That's why no game is as large as its quoted required space. Traditionally they must quote the install size, as they'd be ripped to shreds by any consumer rights if they quoted the run space and people (even if a small %) couldn't install it.
PS3 games are no different. That's one of the reasons it has a hard drive. The difference is more games tend to only do a partial install to the hard drive, running the rest from the disk.
SE disababled most of the story line, which is the bulk of the content. So they are correct in stating most of it is missing, and most already know that, as they've said it before. Given the nature of the story line (i.e. cut scenes, etc), 4gb sounds about right for the complete arc.
Not to mention, you know, this is just the basic game. Final Fantasy XI has three expansions and counting, chock full of mostly more story content. If XIV follows suit...
XI has more than 3 expansions, it had 3 expansions when I quit the game many years ago.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
Maybe the extra gigs of download is for Voice over work and more quests etc If that's the case then that's awsome!!
If the post at the bottom of this thread are true then it's only 433mb patch download. 6 gigs or more is a huge patch to ask your customers to download. Especially considering the 8 days head start. I'd say when the game goes live on the 30th there would be a max of 500MB-2gig patch.
I have installed and patched the game now, Install is 9gb with a 400mb patch, and im at the log in screen.
And I've read this all over the place as well. I say this just in case anyone wants to once again question the integrity of the poster based on nothing.
Thanks for the verification. BTW what country are you from? I'm in the US and I see online that some stores in my area have the CE already in stock.
Im from the UK
I was hoping you were from the US and I could possibly get mine early too
No such thing as a Miracle patch, but your hope is cute.
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