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Which game do you think will be more successful? GW2, or ToR?
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Well like the title says, I'm curious as to which mmo everyone thinks will be more successful. I was actually having a discussion with someone who claimed that ToR was going to be way more successful and GW2 was going to flop, and he claimed to have done extensive research to support it. Now obviously if he had actually researched anything he'd know just how wrong he is. While I think ToR might be ok, I don't think it will be as good/successful as GW2, and that's just my honest opinion.
And after all that, it just made me want to make a poll to see what everyone else thinks. (and yes, I'm aware there are other similar polls, but I wanted to make one myself anyway)
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Voted TOR. Only because of it being Star Wars. Also Succesful != Good/Great.
edit: Also, I don't know about other folks but I'm bored of fantasy setting games.
voted about the same because really it is apples and oranges - they are not in competition with each other and probably will attract 2 different types of players. If I play either of them it will be GW2 not TOR, simply because I am not that into Star Wars anymore and what feelings I had for it died after playing Galaxys. It is all speculation at this point.
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They're both going to do extremely well least initally. How they fare in the long term depends on the actual gameplay and content the games provide. Guild Wars 2 because of a large loyal fan base due to the success of GW and not having a monthly sub. SWTOR because of the ip and Bioware which also has a large, loyal fanbase. Both games are going to sell like hotcakes when they launch.
What happens after the initial influx depends on the quality of the game they're offering and how the company handles things like customer service, patches, server stability, content, etc.
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Yeah, 2 different classes of games but in the end, i think GW2 will be more succesfull based on the hype, i know it is not precise at all but i have found much fewer bashing toward GW2 and their PR peeps seems to be more able to do the job, so it results in less negative opinion and will translate into higher sells, ASSUMING that by success you meant more sells.
If we assume that by success is getting into MMOs history by the changes on gameplay status quo I think GW2 will be more succesfull. Also comparing features in the "under develpment" status, on live things might change
Guild Wars 2 will be the better game, and it won't be close. As for commercially successful, I wouldn't be so sure. EA's marketing has made even some really bad games into commercial successes.
A Game thats free to play following retail cost will usually beat an MMO.
Add that the game has a huge fanbase, great graphics, solid game play and is a MMO.
Then you can logically assume that GW2 will have a higher playerbase than ToR. Depending on the playerbase of ToR though with monthly subs... it will most likely be more successful or a better business to invest in. Again though this depends on how long they can maintain high subs.
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Personally, it seems to me that the reason for less negativity being directed at GW2 is because out of the two SWTOR by its very nature gets more hype so therefore in turn is going to have more negative views geared towards it as well.
By no means am I saying that one is better than the other or more deserving of hype than the other. Just seems from my observation that SWTOR gets more press time generally speaking, which as you pointed out is not always a good thing or at least has its drawbacks.
Frankly, I'm interested in both games but don't really have a preference for one over the other. I hope they're both badass games worth playing myself.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
i favour GW2, but i opted for "about the same"
because TOR and GW2 will both dominate the MMO industry next year
well.. with WoW as well ( and probably TERA )
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I'm going to assume that with 'successful' is being meant the number of people playing it.
I think that both will do very good in that department.
Bioware and ANet are both high quality game companies. I think GW2 will get higher praise because it's more innovative, but SW:TOR will be the next big quality themepark MMO on the level of polish, accessibility and smooth gameplay of a WoW. Plus it has firms like EA and Lucas Arts behind them, meaning it can pump out a advertisement and PR offensive to raise mainstream public awareness on a level that only firms like Activision Blizzard can.
Regarding content and variety in it, I think both MMO's will do exceedingly well, although it looks like SW:TOR will surpass GW2 in sheer amount of it. But there's little doubt that both have more than any other MMO has had at launch in the last 5-10 years.
So, to sum up what pro's each MMO has speaking for them:
- GW: lots of innovative features, polish & accessible gameplay, lots and variation in features, GW IP for the GW fans.
- SW:TOR: deepened, massive amount of storytelling, polish & accessible gameplay, all the usual MMO features and then some, Star Wars IP and KOTOR lore for fans of the franchises.
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SWTOR in the beginning, since its Star wars and bioware. Then later once everyone has beaten the game and gone through the story, GW2 will be ahead. So ultimately GW2 will be more successful overall i think.
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Both of these games are going to sell ridiculously well initially. GW2 will, perhaps, pick up more sales than ToR. However, post -launch, ToR is going to be more successful overall as far as income goes, factoring in the fact that it will be making an extra $15 a month off each subscriber that stays with the game. People will continue playing it solely because it's Star Wars, even if the game isn't all that spectacular.
When it comes down to the long-haul, I think GW2 will be the victor. It will have a persistent flow of playesr into the game solely because it's F2P, and people will keep coming back to it in between the launch of whatever MMOs hit the shelves in later years. But I can still see a lot of people picking up both of these games, since they'll only have to pay one monthly fee between the two and the genres vary enough to give people reason enough to have both.
But it's really hard to say, seeing as neither of these games have launched yet, and thus the actual quality of the content can't be factored in. So this discussion is a big ol' "We'll see." until then.
SW will be the most successful.. but GW2 will be a better game
I decided on about the same. Guild Wars 2 is b2p. Which means, one can play SWToR and GW2 at the same time without it costing more money. Plus, GW2 looks like itll be coming out after SWToR, so it'll be there to pick up the people who are getting bored with SWToR.
If we are measuring it by profit sucess, Bioware will win hands down.
GW2 will be the most successful and popular. It reaches out to F2P players and the western crowd, as well as the "other" populations.
TOR will have my money and time but it won't be the most successful and popular, sadly.
I think Guild Wars 2 is going to be more successful because of better brand.
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About the same. But GW2 has been getting a lot of attention from fans. TOR has a lot of expectations because of the SW tag, however many people are thinking that it will likely be same old, same old only with different names. Plus I'm not a fan of the linear, story environment, I prefer open world, sandbox. I think GW is a tried and true MMO so I think it will probably end up doing a little bit better, but they are very close.
Not sure which will be more (financially) successful, but the game I think I'm going to enjoy more is GW2.
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SWToR will of course.
The average person probably has never heard of "guild wars". But the average person has heard of "Star Wars". Once SWToR is finished and the marketing machine starts rolling, it will capture the imaginations of every "non-gamer" that is interested in playing a game.
Financially successful? SWToR hands down.
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I say Guild Wars 2 will be more succesful simply because of the deep and effective storyline, they even have a book to support it and the jaw dropping graphics not to mention that it is the top voted on the hype pole on this site.
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Agreed. Among current MMO gamers, guild wars may have a slight advantage, but Star Wars has much more broad appeal. Even MSNBC has already featured SWTOR as an upcoming game that will take the world by storm. I think for many, this will be their first step into MMORPGs.
People aren't able to be objective on this site. There is no way that Guild Wars 2 is going to be more successful than Star Wars: The Old Republic, there is simply no way.
Poll reflects what mmorpg.com community wants, just like the hype meter; not exactly the true opinion of all mmorpg gamers. I think TOR will be more successful at launch because its more mainstream. But long-term its hard to say.
Wouldn't the hype meter on this site represent what will be popular with people who frequent this site?
Because in the real world (i.e. not the MMORPG.com bubble where sandbox games are superior and we pine for SWG pre-NGE) there is far, far more hype for SWTOR.