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meseche
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Ok i may be the onlyone feeling this but i have played the game for about a day now and it is imposible for me to talk to anyone. Good lord i say hi whats up and no one ever responds. I ask a question about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows... no one responds untill i ask if anyone can even understand me... and then oh look some one finaly replies yea i can understand you... and thats it... maybe there is a diferent chat channel or something that i am not aware of but i have never played a game befor where the chat window was like a ghost town.
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They are trying to type back, but the UI lag makes it take so long that you've logged out before you can read it!
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
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Sounds like "newgamefocusonleveling"...-itus... to me.
Like when nobody wants to chat when Thanksgiving dinner hits the table...
...just a guess...
or they're angry that there's less Thanksgiving dinner, and more doing dishes...
Yea i played the open beta and that was one of many things that turned me off of the game.....
The Ironic Part is that FFXI was extremely Social when I first started playing (PS2 launch). Maybe console gamers are more socially inclined?
Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
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ff14 is not out for the ps3 yet.
Maybe everyone on the server has you on /ignore?
Maybe the original poster is on to something.
if some random stranger ran up to me in the game and said, "hi, what's up" I'd be hesistant to reply, thinking, "yeah, whatever kid, I'm trying to play the game, go bug somebody else if you're looking for idle conversation."
If some random stranger starts shouting they want to know something about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows, I'm going to be hesistant to reply, thinking, "Jebus kid, do you have any idea of the enormity of what you're saying? Crafting a bow is pretty serious business. Maybey ou should reference crafting website and get an idea. We're trying to play the game here."
And then they're like, "can anyone even understand me" and I'm like, "yeah, I can understand you..." hoping they'd take the hint that we're trying to play teh game here.
So I guess that makes me an introvert. It's not that I wouldn't lend a helping hand, but I sure want to see some evidence the person I'm talking to isn't just out to waste my time. If everybody else playing the game feels the same way, I guess I'm among like company.
or maybe I am reclining comfortably, controller in hand, and when someone asks a question I am thinking "someone esle will get that". I am not gonna sit up straight and reach for my keyboard - are you kidding me??
thats how I was during beta.
This "leave me alone until I am ready to grace you with my presence" attitude really kinda takes the second M out of MMO. Somehow over the years MMOs have become just large online single player games and I don't understand why. I personally play to socialize and group up with other people. Sure I do things on my own, but when someone asks a question, I usually try to answer if I can, whether I am busy or not.
I think telling someone to go to a website when they ask a question is complete BS. It frustrates me when I get that response to my questions. As a side note, it frustrates me when I am doing quests with a group and everyone goes to a website for complete walkthrough of the quest. You see, I prefer to play these games within the mechanics they were designed. And chatting and helping other people are part of the mechanics of these games. Logging out or alt-tabbing to visit a 3rd party website is not. Now I am not going to lie and say I have never visited websites, but it is after I have exhausted all my patience at trying to figure stuff out in-game.
So far I am loving FFXIV, but it needs a serious shot of community personality. No one talks, and that is just sad in an MMO. Now don't get me wrong. I don't want childish banter spewing out everywhere, but for the meer fact there are a couple thousand people not saying a damn thing or even wanting to talk has me a bit saddened.
Me and another person I have met in game have been doing a lot of leves together. We always shout out to try and find more people to group with, and usually only get 1, maybe 2 people to join us. That is not good when you can see 50 people standing around an aetheryte crystal, the guild leve sign flashing left and right, and no one wants to do anything together.
The moment I read "It's like" or "WoW" is the moment I stop reading your post.
The troll-ish player base of 90% of mmo players, and the solo-based agenda with most if not all of the latest mmo's have slowly chipped away at any desire to actually socialize in an mmo.
Lol! No kidding.
I have asked one question since starting this game and was expecting a whisper or tell to pop up with an answer as per every game I have played with a global chat. I now have a controller and my keyboard sits across the room (I play on the TV via laptop) and resort to answers in forums when not playing, because you can't even alt tab out of fullscreen?!
This game to me is set up for people who know each other in real life or through other game guilds etc. The rest of us are just introverted by design.
Everybody chats in their linkshells. Type: "/shout LF a linkshell pst" as you run around, a couple times, and you should be all set.
I don't think I've ever played a multiplayer game with less chat. Sure part of it might be that the chat systems is awful, and typing gets interrupted by the UI when crafting, but I've played for hours without seeing anything in /say or /shout.
Join a linkshell.
I was the same in beta. It seemed like a lot of effort to answer someone's query in chat.
They do have a point though. Most games are very social, in addition to your guild/linkshell. This game is very quiet when it comes to the general population, definitely the quietest I've seen.
To compare, I've just restarted lotro when they went ftp, and whenever I asked questions, there were always a few people who answered, and discussions even started. In this game, people just don't talk or answer anything.
I did. That doesn't change the fact that no one outside of my LS says anything. At least for me, part of the MMO experience is the random banter in chat while you're crafting or doing a quest, not just about talking to the same guild members every day. Barrens chat > no chat at all.
Yup, LS. I chat mostly on my LS and if I see someone chatting on /say or /shout I just ignore them and thought that some other people will just answer his questions.
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." - Sun Tzu, Art of War
Had the same experiance as some of you. Standing at a node, I aqtually spent over 1 hour asking to join up with some one for leves. After 1 hour a guy finally answered. It's just sad. And yes leves poping all the time around me.
Solo players get out of my game.
Pretty much. Maybe they should create a few default linkshells. Kind of like eve automatically puts you in the noob channel when you first join.
Wow.
You're so dedicated to defending XIV against all criticism that you'll actually justify and condone an anti-social mentality from other players. You're seriously trying to justify players in XIV being anti-social?
Seriously, Geld... Is there *anything* to do with XIV someone could criticize that you won't find some way to spin or dismiss in your tireless defense of it? Anything at all?
What's funny is, back when XI first launched in the US, people would ask questions in /shout and there were plenty of people ready to answer, provide what help they could, or even say "I haven't figured that out yet, either".
When people are interested in being part of a community, they are not "bothered" by someone asking a question. And if XIV's community at large (ie. not linkshells) is really shaping up to be that un-friendly and that un-responsive when another player is asking a question.... not a good sign.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
That is a matter of opinion.
Anyway, it was the same with FFXI. I'm not sure why but /say and /shout for these ff online games tends to be for business and ls chat for socializing. It's probably because the range of /say and /shout is fairly limited and there are no global or zone chats besides linkshell chatting. In any case, it's not because people are anti-social it's just a different way of chatting.
You can join up to 8 linkshells in this game too. Join like 3 and your chat box will be constantly filled, if that's what you're looking for. You could even create an ls specifcally for Chuck Norris jokes and bullshitting if you wanted. Nobody is stopping you and if you spent some time recruiting it probably would be decently popular.
You largely missed the point of what I was saying - that in order to engage someone in conversation in an MMORPG, you should be as respectful to their needs as you are hoping they will be to yours.
In truth, Final Fantasy XIV isn't exactly the kind of game you're going to be able to rely upon others to get you through. If you can't at least show enough dedication to discover things for yourself, you're probably going to be a constant drain on others, always asking where this or that NPC, component, or recipe can be found.
So, what you would call anti-social behavior, I would call justified given the context of the situation.
Yes, join a clique of people and only talk to them. That's a wonderful way to build community in a game.
Sad what this genre has come to.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
^^ This, join a linkshell, or two, or four, or seven. Really can't stress this enough. Linkshells are NOT just a 'guild'. I am up to 5 now on my newly redone character and I still drop a "/shout Any Linkshells recruiting??" when I approach a camp. Sometimes I get a bad one, sometimes a great one. You dont have to dedicate your life to any one.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)