Your argument is flawed. Many MMO's take features from others and provide a niche or polish them. WoW has done this and It was user friendly. Stop bashing on it, I'm not a supporter or a troll, but I think WoW is the best until the next-gen MMO's come out. It provided a casual - friendly playstyle.
Raiding is what made WoW. The feeling of accomplishing an encounter such as Heroic Lich King was exhilirating. But everyone has to grow up sometime. Sadly, you're going to experience the same thing in every expansion of WoW. And you'll get burned out and repeat in a never ending cycle of insanity.
A great milestone for WoW. Goes to show, a FUN game is going to be more popular than a tedious, boring game.
Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste... and it really is just a popularity contest. A boring game with shitty graphics can succeed based only on it's previous success. Everyone plays WoW because that's what their friends play... not because it's good. WoW is the Jonus Borothers of the MMO world.
I don't understand how a nerd's pasttime could be considered popular. Or could it be that a mmo that broke the nerd guidelines for what is to be considered a real mmo has blown away anything based on nerd lore? BTW I'm also a nerd.
He is talking about in the nerd community. Just thought I would point that out .
Your argument is flawed. Many MMO's take features from others and provide a niche or polish them. WoW has done this and It was user friendly. Stop bashing on it, I'm not a supporter or a troll, but I think WoW is the best until the next-gen MMO's come out. It provided a casual - friendly playstyle.
Raiding is what made WoW. The feeling of accomplishing an encounter such as Heroic Lich King was exhilirating. But everyone has to grow up sometime. Sadly, you're going to experience the same thing in every expansion of WoW. And you'll get burned out and repeat in a never ending cycle of insanity.
My arguement is flawed? it's flawed because nobody has actually provided REAL evidence of active subs? That doesn't answer my question either. please stay on topic of you're going to insult me.
A great milestone for WoW. Goes to show, a FUN game is going to be more popular than a tedious, boring game.
Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste... and it really is just a popularity contest. A boring game with shitty graphics can succeed based only on it's previous success. Everyone plays WoW because that's what their friends play... not because it's good. WoW is the Jonus Borothers of the MMO world.
Yeah right, 12 million people play and its not a good game? Name one thats better and be careful because ive played most of the AAA stuff out there and truthfully none of them are close in WOW quality.
Edit: LMAO, should have checked first, Texas again.
WoW appeals to many different types of gamers.
Lets take this out of the realm of the mmo genre.
Lets talk FPS. On one hand we have Halo it appeals to everyone even if you dont like Fps games, chances are you have a halo game in your home.
Then we have a game like Stalker a highly immersive sandbox style FPS, very hardcore and is directly targetting the hardcore fps gamers. Is Halo a better game?
Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.
Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots. * humongus eye roll*
They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.
I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior?
No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer. Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?
follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.
I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime. What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.
You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you.
What do you want to know? Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it? Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
A great milestone for WoW. Goes to show, a FUN game is going to be more popular than a tedious, boring game.
Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste... and it really is just a popularity contest. A boring game with shitty graphics can succeed based only on it's previous success. Everyone plays WoW because that's what their friends play... not because it's good. WoW is the Jonus Borothers of the MMO world.
Yeah right, 12 million people play and its not a good game? Name one thats better and be careful because ive played most of the AAA stuff out there and truthfully none of them are close in WOW quality.
Edit: LMAO, should have checked first, Texas again.
WoW appeals to many different types of gamers.
Lets take this out of the realm of the mmo genre.
Lets talk FPS. On one hand we have Halo it appeals to everyone even if you dont like Fps games, chances are you have a halo game in your home.
Then we have a game like Stalker a highly immersive sandbox style FPS, very hardcore and is directly targetting the hardcore fps gamers. Is Halo a better game?
In my opinion no, I liked Stalker better but then again I was let down by Halo thinking it would be another Half Life. Your right, WOWs success is do to many factors and some unknown quality that I cannot explain. Its not for everyone surely no more than Halo is every shooters favorite but its success, like Halo, cannot be denied.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Chinese dont make kids or babies....They born teenager and WoW/Starcraft Addict
On a more serious note, I dont get how you can HATE a game...either you like or you dislike...but you cannot hate a game
...the community it's another story :P
QUESTION: Quote: Originally Posted by Xridnasa: - What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's? - ANSWER: Quote: Originally Posted by sidimazz: - Kind of, just without the rapist.
How long is this bollocks going to go for? If there was some kind of magical wow killer 70% of the users of mmorpg.com would burn it to the ground anyway and then hate that game more than wow and then continue to say how much they missed world of warcraft and why there where no next gen games released more like it. A lot of you hypocritical tossers really sicken me. Get over it you sad monkeys.
then please explain how 12 million people are currently playing WoW
actually they did report active accounts.
World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
total number of bought accs is closer to 35 million.
Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.
Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots. * humongus eye roll*
They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.
I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior?
No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer. Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?
follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.
I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime. What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.
You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you.
What do you want to know? Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it? Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.
lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now. Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%. Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.
lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now. Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%. Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.
Quite a few mmo's would be thrilled if that 4% were their player base.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
So, you don't actually know how to do a tiny bit of research. You would risk looking like a fool because you didn't want to search for info on your own?
World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
Also, for all of those people that say NA is bleeding subscribers, can you please provide some proof of this? You can't? Then stop acting like children and accept that WoW is a behemoth in NA as well.
lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now. Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%. Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.
No, it wasn't hovering at 11million for 2 years. They did not report for 2 years. When China was no longer allowed in China they could not claim the 5 million subscribers from there. They couldn't say o look we're doing great 6 million subscribers... Wait weren't you just at 11 million? No they just don't say their numbers at times. Chinese accounts never get closed or inactive due to the subscription style which means that every account that has had a player ever play is still counting towards their total subscriber count.
lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now. Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%. Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.
No, it wasn't hovering at 11million for 2 years. They did not report for 2 years. When China was no longer allowed in China they could not claim the 5 million subscribers from there. They couldn't say o look we're doing great 6 million subscribers... Wait weren't you just at 11 million? No they just don't say their numbers at times. Chinese accounts never get closed or inactive due to the subscription style which means that every account that has had a player ever play is still counting towards their total subscriber count.
False.
Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers.
If a person has not accessed the game in 30 days, the sub no longer counts.
Also, look at the following chart. You can clearly see when China subs were lost. Not perfectly accurate, but very close according to his sources. They still had about 6.5 million without them.
Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.
Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots. * humongus eye roll*
They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.
I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior?
No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer. Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?
follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.
I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime. What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.
You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you.
What do you want to know? Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it? Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.
Look at it. Says nothing about concurrent or ongoing. If you have ever payed for wow that would make you a subscriber. Ass hat.
Um yea thats the general definition not blizzards if your account hasn't been active in 30 days it doesn't count as a subscriber. If it did I would really hate to see how terribly high that number would be.
Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.
Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots. * humongus eye roll*
They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.
I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior?
No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer. Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?
follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.
I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime. What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.
You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you.
What do you want to know? Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it? Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.
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Your argument is flawed. Many MMO's take features from others and provide a niche or polish them. WoW has done this and It was user friendly. Stop bashing on it, I'm not a supporter or a troll, but I think WoW is the best until the next-gen MMO's come out. It provided a casual - friendly playstyle.
Raiding is what made WoW. The feeling of accomplishing an encounter such as Heroic Lich King was exhilirating. But everyone has to grow up sometime. Sadly, you're going to experience the same thing in every expansion of WoW. And you'll get burned out and repeat in a never ending cycle of insanity.
He is talking about in the nerd community. Just thought I would point that out .
and yet Wow, a tedious boring game, has all those subs, amzing.
Currently bored with MMO's.
He is waiting for Guild Wars 2 lol.
Is that the new WOW killer ?
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
My arguement is flawed? it's flawed because nobody has actually provided REAL evidence of active subs? That doesn't answer my question either. please stay on topic of you're going to insult me.
WoW appeals to many different types of gamers.
Lets take this out of the realm of the mmo genre.
Lets talk FPS. On one hand we have Halo it appeals to everyone even if you dont like Fps games, chances are you have a halo game in your home.
Then we have a game like Stalker a highly immersive sandbox style FPS, very hardcore and is directly targetting the hardcore fps gamers. Is Halo a better game?
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Good luck, let's try to find some information on active subscribers. Don't know why you would want to know that.
Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone. Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.
Like every other MMO subscriber report.
then please explain how 12 million people are currently playing WoW
You aren't going anywhere with this. Keep on ranting, you will never find out!
In my opinion no, I liked Stalker better but then again I was let down by Halo thinking it would be another Half Life. Your right, WOWs success is do to many factors and some unknown quality that I cannot explain. Its not for everyone surely no more than Halo is every shooters favorite but its success, like Halo, cannot be denied.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Chinese dont make kids or babies....They born teenager and WoW/Starcraft Addict
On a more serious note, I dont get how you can HATE a game...either you like or you dislike...but you cannot hate a game
...the community it's another story :P
QUESTION:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xridnasa:
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What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's?
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ANSWER:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidimazz:
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Kind of, just without the rapist.
How long is this bollocks going to go for? If there was some kind of magical wow killer 70% of the users of mmorpg.com would burn it to the ground anyway and then hate that game more than wow and then continue to say how much they missed world of warcraft and why there where no next gen games released more like it. A lot of you hypocritical tossers really sicken me. Get over it you sad monkeys.
actually they did report active accounts.
World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
total number of bought accs is closer to 35 million.
Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.
lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now. Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%. Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.
Quite a few mmo's would be thrilled if that 4% were their player base.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
So, you don't actually know how to do a tiny bit of research. You would risk looking like a fool because you didn't want to search for info on your own?
World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/press/pressreleases.html?101007
Also, for all of those people that say NA is bleeding subscribers, can you please provide some proof of this? You can't? Then stop acting like children and accept that WoW is a behemoth in NA as well.
No, it wasn't hovering at 11million for 2 years. They did not report for 2 years. When China was no longer allowed in China they could not claim the 5 million subscribers from there. They couldn't say o look we're doing great 6 million subscribers... Wait weren't you just at 11 million? No they just don't say their numbers at times. Chinese accounts never get closed or inactive due to the subscription style which means that every account that has had a player ever play is still counting towards their total subscriber count.
Honestly WoW has been off my personal mmo radar for close to three years now.
This whole "YAY!!! We have 12 million subs!!!!" announcement means nothing to me.
I think im here to read all the WoW haters and fanatics post BS back and forth for my own personal entertainment.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
False.
Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers.
If a person has not accessed the game in 30 days, the sub no longer counts.
Also, look at the following chart. You can clearly see when China subs were lost. Not perfectly accurate, but very close according to his sources. They still had about 6.5 million without them.
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png
Um yea thats the general definition not blizzards if your account hasn't been active in 30 days it doesn't count as a subscriber. If it did I would really hate to see how terribly high that number would be.
–noun
1.
a person, company, etc., that subscribes, as to a publicationor concert series.
2.
a homeowner, apartment dweller, business, etc., that pays amonthly charge to be connected to a television cableservice.
3.
a person who promises to donate a sum of money, purchasestock, etc.
Try again.