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Game is fun, but not worth monthly fees

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  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by popinjay

    There are plenty things that don't work (atm) but I'm not listing them because this is beta. But for you to say "What doesn't work?" as if everything does at this time, is dishonest.


    Of course stuff is broken. It's beta. But that can pretty much be fixed.



    Originally posted by Abangyarudo

     I've commented on all your points besides for the questionable nature of the last one as strong ai is not usually found in mmorpgs and the chat filter. I don't see it as being groundbreaking as the game hasn't launched yet.


    If FFXIV's vision (even though its nowhere near that yet) can survive its not based on the platforming.

     The hardcore crowd will enjoy it as well but its not concerned with timesink activities such as crafting and the more sandbox style gameplay.



     
    Not sure you saw it (even though I said it at least twice, but I already said.. it's beta. That was for the poster who was asking "what's wrong with it" as if a beta game doesn't have problems when someone else said it did.


    FFXIV is a bad game, but that won't go bust because it has a loyal following. DCUO can't claim that. Square Enix (who makes FFXIV) has invested far more money in that than this was built for. SE is a company who has much very deeper pockets unlike SoE and SE as a Japanese company has "face to save" so they won't let FFXIV crash. SoE will let a game flop the minute it won't turn a buck and they don't care about reputation. They are the Western Cash Shop Kings. You really can't compare these two games at all in any serious way.


    If you believe that DCUO is some kind of sandbox game (as you said above), you need to check on the definition, because this entire game is ENTIRELY on rails, lol.

    Every quest is voice acted and the voice tells you where to go and what to do incase you are too lazy to read the quest.. just listen and then follow the minimap arrows lol.

    What is sandbox about getting a quest and then following a big gigantic yellow arrow on the minimap that leads you right to the front door of the instance? You're following a MENTOR for God's sake.. he's not saying "okay, go level how you want so you can fight crime/the law". The Batman says "There is a bad guy over there. Go kill him and 10 of his henchemn and free so and so."


    There is no sand in this box, nor was it ever meant to be. The questing in DCUO is SIMPLIER than WoW and that's really hard to do. For future reference:


    Sandbox type= do what you want in game with no real script or quests to follow. You choose your toon's path and activites and no one way of doing it. (majority of FFXIV, Darkfall, EvE, etc)

    No sandbox type= quests you MUST follow to progress. Scripted world that you must follow for progression and rewards (DCUO, WoW, Tera, most MMOs)

  • DegupetDegupet Member Posts: 13
    I'll have to agree with OP here. Overall, I actually enjoyed the PS3/PC betas, but not enough to justify paying a sub right now. Fun in its own right, but not deep enough for me to toss them 15 after the first month. I could see buying the box just for the free month, but I personally prefer to stick with a MMO for a good while.

    Going to wait and see if they eventually overhaul the payment structure.
  • HitechLolifeHitechLolife Member Posts: 210

    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.

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  • pierthpierth Member UncommonPosts: 1,494

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.

    But that's the point, they are saying it's not even worth that little.

  • HitechLolifeHitechLolife Member Posts: 210

    Originally posted by pierth

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.

    But that's the point, they are saying it's not even worth that little.

    They should be embarrased making such a fuss over such an insignificant amount of money.

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  • kirak2009kirak2009 Member UncommonPosts: 543

    I am of the camp, that  I do enjoy it,  I will buy it  and see what the first 30 days bring, If I am still enjoying it i will sub,  if not I won't.  For me it is no different  than buying a console game  that  i generally  don't play  for more than a month  unless it's a stellar game

    I do foresee me playing for a few months anyhow,  something to fill the time  with some fast action  fighting fun

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Originally posted by kirak2009

    I am of the camp, that  I do enjoy it,  I will buy it  and see what the first 30 days bring, If I am still enjoying it i will sub,  if not I won't.  For me it is no different  than buying a console game  that  i generally  don't play  for more than a month  unless it's a stellar game

    I do foresee me playing for a few months anyhow,  something to fill the time  with some fast action  fighting fun

    The difference is that you will not be able to trade DCU into gamestop towards credit for a new game. 

  • kirak2009kirak2009 Member UncommonPosts: 543

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by kirak2009

    I am of the camp, that  I do enjoy it,  I will buy it  and see what the first 30 days bring, If I am still enjoying it i will sub,  if not I won't.  For me it is no different  than buying a console game  that  i generally  don't play  for more than a month  unless it's a stellar game

    I do foresee me playing for a few months anyhow,  something to fill the time  with some fast action  fighting fun

    The difference is that you will not be able to trade DCU into gamestop towards credit for a new game. 

    This is true,  I may take it in the face,  or maybe not,  but with what is out there today  that i have already played and burned out on,  this  will at least  occupy  my gaming  for a while :)

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by Kuraphimaru
    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    Originally posted by pierth

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.
    But that's the point, they are saying it's not even worth that little.


    They should be embarrased making such a fuss over such an insignificant amount of money.

    if u have that much spare cash, do u mind donating $15 or more each month to me since its such insignificant amount of money :)




    Um, yeah, I'd like to sign up for that too. Just, you know, not for this game. :-)

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  • FearGXFearGX Member Posts: 317

    I'm waiting to see how this game does. I'm currently in the Rift betas (vip key) so been doing that, and checking out DDO (Dungeons and Dragons Online) F2P so I have some stuff to do, as well as all my steam games from the sale.

     

    I really liked the concept and the feel of this game, especially Totalbiscuit's video commentarys. It looks colorful and really fun making your own unique experience. But as he says in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIWfHcNa2Q he couldn't tell you to buy or not buy based off the beta experience and only the first 5 levels of the game. He explains that SOE's only way to screw up is having lack of content, and people blitzing to max level, and finding no endgame. It's a long video but he goes alot in depth about the beta experiences and what he thinks about the future of the game.

  • HitechLolifeHitechLolife Member Posts: 210

    Originally posted by Kuraphimaru

     




    Originally posted by HitechLolife





    Originally posted by pierth






    Originally posted by HitechLolife



    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.






    But that's the point, they are saying it's not even worth that little.





    They should be embarrased making such a fuss over such an insignificant amount of money.



    if u have that much spare cash, do u mind donating $15 or more each month to me since its such insignificant amount of money :)

    I didn't get to the lofty heights of being able to afford 15 bucks by just giving my money away.

    It's a silly arguement. Debate the comparitive content of games at release, the amount of systems all you like. But dont act like your two decent cups of coffee pocket change factors into things, it's just sad. The OP said he was having fun after all.

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  • Daffid011Daffid011 Member UncommonPosts: 7,945

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    I didn't get to the lofty heights of being able to afford 15 bucks by just giving my money away.

    It's a silly arguement. Debate the comparitive content of games at release, the amount of systems all you like. But dont act like your two decent cups of coffee pocket change factors into things, it's just sad. The OP said he was having fun after all.

    Funny.  If AT&T or some other large company was defrauding their customers out of $15 a month it would be front page new, filled with federal investigations and jail time.

    It sounds like your point is that if people have tons of disposable money, they should not mind paying for a game they do not feel offers enough content and gameplay to justify $15?

     

    If $15 is petty cash to someone it will not change how good the game is or isn't.  Being rich will not make DCU play any better than it will for someone who struggles to pay $15 a month. 

  • TUX426TUX426 Member Posts: 1,907

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    It's 15 dollars, how povo are you guys.

    Game is $50-$60 + the $15 monthly fee PLUS a cash shop.

  • TardcoreTardcore Member Posts: 2,325

    Originally posted by Ranma87

    Originally posted by zanfire

    Well thats what i mean, many people will buy it and play for a few months almost exclusivly because of the IP, but that wont make them stick around.

    I plan on being around a while unless the game is excessively bad.

    Oh the game is fine, there's just not that much of it. If you plan to play it more than a couple of hours a week you will run out of things to do before the grace period is up. Also as a fellow DC fan, I think you might be a wee bit dissapointed that this was the best they could do with the massive amount of DC history they had at their disposal.

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  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948

    It would be lovely if people would stop trolling this game, and actually watch some quality footage of the game. This would probably increase their post efficiency by 52.1%.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/totalhalibut#p/c/79D6CBCD9C05FD17

  • mawgrenmawgren Member Posts: 24

    I enjoyed the beta on the PS3 but there is no way i would sub to this game, the content is just simply lacking .  The quest are so basic that after the newness wears off you can see how paper thin the gameplay actually is and it will not hold subs beyond a couple months tops unless they seriously crank out the content.  I certainly can't see $225 worth of one year content for this game vs. all the other mmos and gaming choices.

  • Germaximus_SGermaximus_S Member UncommonPosts: 1,061

    blah blah blah

    Totally worth $15 of my moneys.

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  • kiernkiern Member UncommonPosts: 428

    Whether the game will be worth a monthly fee will be based on if it is fun on a monthly basis. Many people are calling the content thin when they haven't seen most of it. The preorder bets was locked at level 20. The level 1-30 stuff is not meant to take a lot of time to go through. Their focus for DCUO was on end-game content, which most have not seen.  Plus, they will supposedly be adding content monthly. If the end-game content is good and they do, in fact, add content on a monthly basis, it may very well be worth a long term monthly fee. If not, people will cancel when they get bored. Long term success for an MMO is in the endgame content.

    Some people are against monthly fees on principle and will trash a game with the delusion that if they may somehow get the company to drop the monthly fee. The in-game store is just as irrelevant as it was in EQ2, other than those being against it on principle. Most people could care less about fluff stuff, but some are more than happy to shell out extra cash for it.

    Honestly, i don't get the fuss.  To me, if an MMO is not worth the $15/month subscription, it's not worth playing, at all. I play MMO's to play on a regular basis. If I play on a regular basis the monthly fee is not a big deal.  If I don't play on a regular basis, then I would rather play a single player game.

  • silentkillahsilentkillah Member UncommonPosts: 55

    To whom this may concern. I've seen gampad users complete on bar with the best of the M/K users. Especially this game centered around using powers and combo's just like in any Street Fighter/MK/Tekken/etc fighting game battle. They would get worked. It's 10x more comfortable using a gamepad to complete a combo then clicking your mouse buttons. And why the hell would I want a G15 Gaming Keyboard when there are only 6 buttons powers slots, and 2 slots for a Soder Cola and Trinket use?? I don't need macros, and 3 full cast bars + 16 extra buttons to play this game. I just whip out mah controller and own you SF style. I actually find it easier to combo with the gamepad then the mouse. But thats just my personal preference.

    It actually seems illogical to use a keyboard and mouse.

    The only problem the controller has is the camera speed being too slow, in which they should implement a sensitivity.

    If the Monthly fee is too much of a problem for you than move on, honestly. If it really bothers you that much write a letter.. it's not going to change anything.

    Most of you haven't even seen half the game, they have you guy's in a level 20 promotional beta. They promise monthly content updates (and even though they promise they might not pull through, if so... unsubscribe). No one is forcing you to play, or pay, or anything for that matter.

    I'll be playing because I love the DC Universe. I got very skilled in PVP and would considering myself one of the best top 3 on PC BETA PVP 4 server on hereos.

    Sony themselves said the real fun starts at 30? Are they lying? Maybe.. but I wan't to found out... REBOOT!

  • Germaximus_SGermaximus_S Member UncommonPosts: 1,061

    I loved the mouse/keyboard play, feels perfectly comfortable to me. :p

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  • TyrellJonezTyrellJonez Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by silentkillah

    I'll be playing because I love the DC Universe. I got very skilled in PVP and would considering myself one of the best top 3 on PC BETA PVP 4 server on hereos.

     

    I also love DC (i'm a batman fanboy).I'll be a villian. I look forward to playing you in PvP.

     

    Just curious, what did you decide to roll first? I'm rolling an Ice/Staff villian.

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  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    People pay for CoH, they'll pay for this

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • HitechLolifeHitechLolife Member Posts: 210

    Originally posted by Daffid011

    Originally posted by HitechLolife

    I didn't get to the lofty heights of being able to afford 15 bucks by just giving my money away.

    It's a silly arguement. Debate the comparitive content of games at release, the amount of systems all you like. But dont act like your two decent cups of coffee pocket change factors into things, it's just sad. The OP said he was having fun after all.

    Funny.  If AT&T or some other large company was defrauding their customers out of $15 a month it would be front page new, filled with federal investigations and jail time.

    It sounds like your point is that if people have tons of disposable money, they should not mind paying for a game they do not feel offers enough content and gameplay to justify $15?

     

    If $15 is petty cash to someone it will not change how good the game is or isn't.  Being rich will not make DCU play any better than it will for someone who struggles to pay $15 a month. 

    Defrauding? That's the analogy you're trying to make? lol.

    My point is don't hold your 15$ ransom when discussing the games merits with fellow gamers. Vote with your wallet sure, but don't pretend other gamers give a shit what you do or don't do with your money. It's the same line of thinking as people who post n forums letting everyone know that they've unsubbed/rage quit. No one cares and it adds no validity to an arguement over the merits of a game.

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  • kiltakkiltak Member Posts: 103

    Ok after sitting here reading somethings writen here I felt need to respond to things be said. The first of which is that any one who has the illusion that DCUO will eventually go F2P might as well give up on that idea, Sony will not ever take this game to F2P. Remember DC has a stake in this game as well. Between Sony and DC there is no way this game will ever go to F2P.

    Now some one said that it takes a week to reach the level cap in DCUO. This is true but then that is beta, that does not say it will be the case when the game goes live. Remember that they want you to level fast because they want you to test the powers and server stability as well as help them root out bugs. My guess is that leveling will slow down after launch and even so there will be players who will reach level cap in no time flat. Besides there is always the PVP so there is more then enough content to keep players busy for a while.

    I will be honest this game will more then likely do better on console then on PC. However what matters is this either one of two things will happen either game will flop and that will be that. However I'm predicting the game won't flop and will do very well. This is going to force a lot of developers out there to develope MMOs for the consoles. On top of that we will see the traditional MMO suchs as WOW become a dime a dozen and see more action based MMOs. If you can build an MMO like DCUO with powers weapons and it work then why not fantasy game. I believe Sony will use DCUO as staging ground to test and work out the kicks with MMO on console and Action based games.

    Now if I am right and developers begin to develop MMOs for the console then we will see these same MMO developed for the Console to be developed on the PC as well. I see more and more MMO moving away from the whole raid driven aspects and more towards story driven MMO, KOTOR and DCUO are perfect examples of this. Please don't get me wrong that doesn't mean we wont see the heavy driven raid game such as WOW type MMO but they will become far few to none.

    DCUO has chance to prove that MMO can be released on to the console and do well, and I believe it will. It doesn't matter if it will do well on the PC or not. Developers all ready know there is a market for MMO on the PC. I suspect that the next generation of MMO will not only be marketed for not only the PC and the Console. I know there is rumors going around of an EQ3 and I think if DCUO does well EQ3 will be developed for Console as well as PC. It's even possible that when WOW 2 goes in to development it to my actually be developed for the console. Whatever the case maybe DCUO is ths testing ground and will prove whether or not MMO would be good on Console. If DCUO doesn't then it will be a good long time before another MMO will approach the concoles.

  • segynsegyn Member Posts: 234

     I have the agreement with it is good but not worth the 15 bucks a month and the reason i say it isn't worth the 15 dollars a month is becasue i'm used to playing mmo's for hours every single day sometimes on the weekend from when i wake up till i go to sleep.

    But Dcu i maybe play an hour here 2 hours there. I can not sit there and play it for 8 hours straight if i did there would be nothing left to do in a week or so. That is the big diffenece. Yay i have fun when i play it but i can only play it for an hour or so at a time before i log of from the repetitive nature. I admit i keep logging back in and having short fun sessions. But i'm pretty sure playing the beta i had done every mission maxed level got iconic gear did raids and duo's felt like i had done everything the game had to offer.

    Basically i feel like i got more out of Fallout new vegas than out of DCUO is coming with and Dcuo charges 15 bucks a month but fallout don't. You get the game pay a bit when they have dlc. Dcuo should fall in same category cause it dosen't have any of the depth of other mmo's You fight there is absolutly nothing else to do in the game Not one other thing O hwait you can do those races but no RP tools No crafting no need for an AH It is totally just fighting I think an mmos needs other things besides action combat to be worthy of my 15 bucks a month cause what a lot of people said is right i feel i got just as much out of Batman Arkham asylum as dcuo has to offer in it's current state.

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