Real ID was not a "MASSIVE" security flaw but i'm not going bother to explain why. However, just think about how common your name is already placed on things like Facebook, Twitter, your mail, and the store cards you use. True, there was at one point a flaw with Real ID names being exposed due to addon use, but that was quickly pointed out and fixed. In reality, things were blown out of proportion because people simply didn't want their real life names posted and enjoyed remaining anonymous, specially when it involved playing online fantasy games. This article touches on that subject.
Additionally, Blizzard mentioned in a Conference call in 2008 that their upkeep cost is $200 million and that their largest department is customer service. So to clarify: Customer service, the job that GMs and CMs do, is their biggest expense. I think that shows some care for the community. Kotaku touches on it here but just google it and you can find multiple sources.
I'm sorry for derailing this thread, just had to clear up some false claims
Edit: And for the record, I will be playing Rift with some RL friends.
Yea, it was. I canceled my account over it as a long time player (blackthorne on 3.5" floppy anyone?) and never looked back. I do not have nor want a Facecrook, Twitter or any other account megaphone for idiots broadcasting my personal life. They made their system OPT OUT aka you were automatically enrolled and there was a script you could google which would allow you see both yours and other people's names in game.
I tested it myself before I quit and received a very snarky email from their "customer service people" basically trying to explain why they thought I was wrong, I didn't ask them, I just said I wanted my accounts and information removed. Having your name on a credit card used in a local store is in no way equivalent to having all of your personal information and details about your life posted for the world to see be indexed and sold to companies and others trying to exploit it for gain in any way possible.
The Saturday Night Live skits about Julian Assange vs Mark Zuckerberg couldn't be more accurate.
If Blizz is spending $200 mil on customer service they need to get their money back. As I said, I asked them to close my b.net account and all associated accounts and wipe my personal information from their system when they did this. I got an email 2 weeks ago stating that they were sorry for my account being hacked and offered me a free authenticator (I work in IT, I checked the mail headers, it was legit). I wrote them back asking why they were still emailing me and why they still had my email address in their database when I had informed them that I was terminating all business relationships with them and did not want any of my information kept. I have *still* not received a response beyond an automated message saying they're really busy and with a link to unsubscribe, I can only assume people are jumping ship, and I *know* I'm not the only one who has had a ton of issues with their customer service.
If they want to learn how to have good customer service the list is a short one for companies these days (newegg and amazon are the only ones that come to mind), especially online ones. I can only think of a couple that have really outstanding service, some are mediocre and the majority are god awful and Blizzard is among the worst. A crying orc doesn't address my issues when I go to cancel something.
As for this game, I'm still not sold, I've basically stopped playing beta after only a few days and have continued reading voraciously about the game (primarily while bored at work) and the changes being made up til launch. As I stated in another thread, I'll probably end up playing from a lack of anything better out rather than from any deep love.
TL;DR : Blizzard sucks, this game is mediocre, you are a sad individual for having an attention span shorter than than my cat's .
If you don't mind, can I get the name of that script? And it wouldn't possibly be related to the addon exploit that they fixed, would it?
I've read every post on this thread, and you all missed the target, or many of you rather.
The reason RIFT has bad community at the moment, is because it's a open beta on a pay to play game. People are bored, they want something to do. Probably 1/12th of the people on rift RIGHT NOW will not play the game. All those people flaming general chat won't stay. Those who do like RIFT will stay. I mean, p2p games don't have betas like this, where it is so easy to get on and play.
I agree, I turned off general chat after the 5th day, and yes I did see the demographics chart claiming (supposedly) that the majority of the players were over 25 but than where all these 13 year olds came from? (and not the bright and intelligent 13 year olds)
When someone enters the game for the first time and makes an innocent comment that this game is similar to WoW at least 5 others starts to make deragatory coments about him in CAPS, like "I WANT TO D...E ON YOUR GRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!"
I played on 6 different servers, its all the same, and those ppl are here as well.I made a post here that the game is fun for a short time, it is polished and bug free but I found it shallow and I will not purchase the game.After 7 pages of totally immature comments the mods locked up the page! Some posters even accused of me being some kind of a secret agent for WoW trying to ruin RIFT! btw I did play WoW in beta, I was on the fence but I ended up not buying the game...
Let me get this straight... After all that has transpired over the last few months, with *rabid* fan boys and haters running a Crusade against each other, you should some how be immune, when you make a WoW remark in general chat?...
At this point there is NO such thing as an "innocent" comment about WoW, its like waving a bright red flag in front of a bull, or a bloody steak in front of a tiger. I suspect the hysteria level will start to fade out in a couple of months. But until then, unless you are trolling, or want to start a flame war, its just not wise to open that topic. ^^
As I've stated, I like Rift and enjoy it. Thats good enough for me. I'm not looking for the One True Game(tm), but I wish all of you who are the very best of luck.
I am done with Rift. I really wanted to like the game, it looks great, Trion is putting great effort into it, but today is really the last nail in the coffin.
I know people say WOW has a bad community, and going into it's dungeon browser really shows you the scum of humanity. But this... no matter what little you ask or critizise, I haven't EVER seen such an amount of hate, harrasment, flaming and attack than in the Rift chat channels. Why is it so difficult to just discuss different opinions WITHOUT 30 people jumping at my throat? I just don't want to spent my limited lifetime in an environment with such amounts of hate and agression around me.
It just is the last straw on many issues. Boring "Kill 10 Goblin" quests all over, difficulty & respawn rates, recent rise of bugs and issues... but more than all this the community looks terrible to me. I was just saying my Ranger/Marksman was constantly dying in some places, and the sheer amount of mockery, hate and whatnot was just... depressing.
You know, I didnt want to say this, but I had my 40th birthday today, I feel it's like "ok I am officially not young anymore" and having more days behind me than ahead of me, I made one decision today: I WONT stay in places with mean and inpolite people. I am mortal, my time is limited and life is too precious to waste it in places with unfriendly people. So while in past years I was more willing to "fight over things", debate all over and taking all bad manners, I decided from today I will avoid such places.
Maybe you think about this one time.
Jesus I'm surprised it took you this long... I'd had enough after beta 4...
the game is like a dumb blonde.. Great to look at but nothing whatsoever upstairs... The lights are on but there's no-one home!!
There are no such things as innocent comments I am convinced most are used to incite a riot.
Yes I agree.
The only thing is where do you drawl the line at a comment vs the lineat trying to start a riot. Some folks are more tolerante of comments than others.
It just depends.. I personally have had nothing but helpful encounters , decent converstions and a few good natured quips in RIFT chat. It just really depends on many factors. The facts are...some people have a bad time....some people have a shitty time....some people don't notice...some people don't care. I expect to have negative encounters in the future...because it's always a mixed bag no matter what MMO I play( and I've played many)...no matter the population.
You guys must realize that WoW players are sick of WoW and they are checkin out Rift. Hopefully they will move on after Beta and return to WoW and the community will be better at release.
Sadly I doubt it cause like I said .. WoW players hate WoW cause it sucks beyond belief,,,rather they want to believe it or not..
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
I just know one thing: MMO community WERE better in the past, tell me what you want! I never had seen so many asshats in the days of old EQ2, SWG or whatever I played in the early years. It just went downhill the last years in terms of netiquette.
One thing, in older games Everquest for example, there was no solo play. You had to maintain a good reputation or you would not have a group, and as a result you would not advance. Nowadays, you can solo to cap, dungeon find a random group, be as big a jerk as you want and still advance to the end of the game.
You guys must realize that WoW players are sick of WoW and they are checkin out Rift. Hopefully they will move on after Beta and return to WoW and the community will be better at release.
Sadly I doubt it cause like I said .. WoW players hate WoW cause it sucks beyond belief,,,rather they want to believe it or not..
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
To be honest if you are allowing chat and trolls to ruin your experience then you probably shouldn’t be playing mmo's. Its one thing if you can hear the person but if you are getting upset about people posting hurtful and non-helpful things you need to just find it out for yourself. playing an mmo alone defeats the whole purpose of the game. ATM Rift is free you don’t have to pay for it or subscribe to it. Once that actually has to happen the people who find it funny to try to ruin a game will for the most part go away. So honestly if it upsets you that bad don’t play it. simple as that.
There are no such things as innocent comments I am convinced most are used to incite a riot.
Yes I agree.
The only thing is where do you drawl the line at a comment vs the lineat trying to start a riot. Some folks are more tolerante of comments than others.
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*sniff*.....*sniff*...Ahhhhh yes....freshly baked Truth. It always smells so sweet...just like Mama used to make.
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To OP..sorry you're done with RIFT. Having a decent time myself between this excellent themepark and XSYON for my sandbox fix.
I am done with Rift. I really wanted to like the game, it looks great, Trion is putting great effort into it, but today is really the last nail in the coffin.
I know people say WOW has a bad community, and going into it's dungeon browser really shows you the scum of humanity. But this... no matter what little you ask or critizise, I haven't EVER seen such an amount of hate, harrasment, flaming and attack than in the Rift chat channels. Why is it so difficult to just discuss different opinions WITHOUT 30 people jumping at my throat? I just don't want to spent my limited lifetime in an environment with such amounts of hate and agression around me.
It just is the last straw on many issues. Boring "Kill 10 Goblin" quests all over, difficulty & respawn rates, recent rise of bugs and issues... but more than all this the community looks terrible to me. I was just saying my Ranger/Marksman was constantly dying in some places, and the sheer amount of mockery, hate and whatnot was just... depressing.
You know, I didnt want to say this, but I had my 40th birthday today, I feel it's like "ok I am officially not young anymore" and having more days behind me than ahead of me, I made one decision today: I WONT stay in places with mean and inpolite people. I am mortal, my time is limited and life is too precious to waste it in places with unfriendly people. So while in past years I was more willing to "fight over things", debate all over and taking all bad manners, I decided from today I will avoid such places.
Maybe you think about this one time.
OP you will find mean and inpolite people whereever you go, that just seems to be how human nature is. Overtime I have come to realize how selfish , inconciderate, and rude people are. Just from talking to people, and listening to them talking bad about everyone they know. It's always ME, Me, Me. Just the way it is. Even if it seems like a person is trying to do an act of kindness , usually it all comes back to something they are doing for themselves.
I am not surprised there are asses in the chat channels. In most gaming communities you find the occassional ass. More so in others. This game is in beta, hopefully all the nasty people revealing their true forms through the internet, will all leave when it comes time to have to buy the game and sub.
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
Wrong.
Judging a game in beta is 100% valid, considering:
A.) You are paying for that game in a few days time when it goes live, which means that unless you believe in 'Miracle Mega-Revamp Patches' that all of these game fanboys preach in betas (along with the tooth fairy),
B.) That is the game you are getting for the first few months.
Pro tip - never credit a game for their public chat channels during a beta event.
In all the random dungeon groups I've formed or joined, the guild I helped form to test the guild UI features, even most of the Warfront groups and Invasion raids I've found nothing but friendly, well behaved, and helpful people.
Measuring community is IMPOSSIBLE - different on each server, each faction, each region etc.
That being said, the chat channels were horrible. /leave 1-9 channel is the first thing you should do.
Way too many free loaders and "testers" with nothing productive to say other then to troll and flame each other.
That being said, once the game DOES go live anyone who actually buys the game and spends their time trolling and flaming other people in the public chat channels is simply a pathetic moron.
/ignore will be used. All will prosper.
Vote with your wallet - pay to play and cut the crap or move along and shut up about it on forums like these.
I for one plan on reporting people who troll/flame the public chat channels on release - that kind of behavior should not be allowed in game, or on the official forums. period.
Constructive criticism is a concept so terribly foreign to so many internet wanna-be's it's astounding.
I see SO many of the same people every day on these Rift forums, people who you can easily tell have absolutely zero chance of buying and playing the game at release... I honestly have to ask - what's the point? Get over yourselves.
Vote with your wallet and shut the hell up. No one cares. Not about my opinion, and certainly not about yours.
Didn't I and another say that we thought the Rift community was one of the worst we have ever encountered here on these forums? Yes...we did. What were we met with? People telling us that we we haters and trolls. I'll say it again, Rift's community is one of the worst I have ever encountered in any game and that includes WoW.
Free open beta = free to troll chat channels.
Pro tip - never credit a game for their public chat channels during a beta event.
You guys must realize that WoW players are sick of WoW and they are checkin out Rift. Hopefully they will move on after Beta and return to WoW and the community will be better at release.
Sadly I doubt it cause like I said .. WoW players hate WoW cause it sucks beyond belief,,,rather they want to believe it or not..
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
perhaps one should just go back to WoW and remain
"Birds of a feather ... flock together"
Blizzrd better Beware
"We aren't in Azeroth anymore"
No like any other MMO it doesn't suck people are just tired of the status quo regardless if you can wrap your head around that fact or not. And you act as if everyone from WoW is like this while any popular MMO will have the people that open mouth before thinking which I think you tend to do a lot, you also have your other players. And from your rabid responses across other boards saying stuff like "RIFT IS GREAT WOW IS FOR ASSHATS" you sure are promoting your community a lot different than what you speak against huh? Pot meet kettle.
And if Rift offers more of a polished product than WoW, than you will have to deal with what WoW will lose and good riddence. Also judging a game this late in the BETA yes you can get at least from a gameplay/enviroment standpoint good standing of the game and if you are going to enjoy it.
No ... people are just tired of the status quo regardless if you can wrap your head around that fact or not.
I do not think that is a fact at all.
If it was, would WoW still have millions of subscribers? Would Rift be as popular and hyped?
Would SWTOR be as popular and hyped?
YOU may be tired of the status quo, many on these specific forums may be tired of the status quo, but there are millions of players who like games like WoW and Rift and LOTRO etc. etc. and they will keep playing them.
Don't get confused as to think a minority opinion is anything more then it is.
We live in a very fortunate time where there are dozens of quality titles available for MMO fans to enjoy. There is a lot of variety and a lot of competition.
I just think the "status quo haters" are just upset because their titles don't receive the same level of funding and support and as such polish and resources as the more mainstream titles. I call it the "hipster conundrum."
No ... people are just tired of the status quo regardless if you can wrap your head around that fact or not.
I do not think that is a fact at all.
If it was, would WoW still have millions of subscribers? Would Rift be as popular and hyped?
Would SWTOR be as popular and hyped?
YOU may be tired of the status quo, many on these specific forums may be tired of the status quo, but there are millions of players who like games like WoW and Rift and LOTRO etc. etc. and they will keep playing them.
Don't get confused as to think a minority opinion is anything more then it is.
Really then why the uproaring from everyone to say this is sooo much different than WoW? And really millions of players like WoW? No kidding that's why their sub base is so high. I have no problem with WoW Rift or LOTOR actually sub to WoW and testing a couple other MMOs. And if you think it's a minority that people are sick of the status quo look at how many games in the past 4 years have touted to be the better thing than WoW, even with Rift saying "We're not in Azeroth Anymore" they are trying to change the status quo. And don't get Casual MMOers confused with the customer base of actual MMO's cause they flock to the next shiny thing like a magpie.
I just think the "status quo haters" are just upset because their titles don't receive the same level of funding and support and as such polish and resources as the more mainstream titles. I call it the "hipster conundrum."
No it's because we play MMO's for a different reason than current crowd and what the current state of games offer. Funding and support and such polish and resources does not = a better game. And I don't really call anything "my titles" seeing as I didn't develop for them or do anything other than fork over my money for the game. Don't get being tired of the status quo confused with being a fanboy of certain titles/developers.
I just think the "status quo haters" are just upset because their titles don't receive the same level of funding and support and as such polish and resources as the more mainstream titles. I call it the "hipster conundrum."
No it's because we play MMO's for a different reason than current crowd and what the current state of games offer. Funding and support and such polish and resources does not = a better game. And I don't really call anything "my titles" seeing as I didn't develop for them or do anything other than fork over my money for the game. Don't get being tired of the status quo confused with being a fanboy of certain titles/developers.
... looks at my quote... sandbox MMO veteran of 12+ years...
I think the problem is that there hasn't been a good sandbox game since UO and yes that fully includes SWG and FFXI and EVE which IMO are/were terrible games for a variety of reasons I care not to go into on this forum as it is off topic...
Rift does what it sets out to do and does it very well. That may not be to certain individuals liking, but no one is forcing anyone to play.
Rift does a lot of things really well, some not so much, and I find it hillarious one would argue against polish as being one of the primary indicators of a quality product.
You guys must realize that WoW players are sick of WoW and they are checkin out Rift. Hopefully they will move on after Beta and return to WoW and the community will be better at release.
Sadly I doubt it cause like I said .. WoW players hate WoW cause it sucks beyond belief,,,rather they want to believe it or not..
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
perhaps one should just go back to WoW and remain
"Birds of a feather ... flock together"
Blizzrd better Beware
"We aren't in Azeroth anymore"
Yep. That damn Blizzard has such a horrible game that they can't even keep their subscriptions up over the last six plus years.... ^^ Do you have ANY idea what most Dev's would do to have even HALF (6 million) of the sustained player base WoW has? I like Rift. Its a good, polished game. Its entertaining. Thats all I'm looking for. But make no mistake. The only threat to WoW at this point is Blizzard itself.
I find these complaints about comunities realy funny. You judge whole community players by channel chat ? No offense i find that ridiculous, what do you expect ? Becouse what you get is ussualy stupid vocal minority. I don't remmeber when it was last time i bothered to read general chat in some game.
Yes it's trash and yes it will always be trash in game which attracts enough ppl, becouse sad reality is that in big enough group of ppl you will always find some morrons and you can bet that they will let you know about themselfs pretty fast.
So true. I've always ignored the chat channel in MMOs. If you want guidance into how something works, use the forums or the help button.
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If you don't mind, can I get the name of that script? And it wouldn't possibly be related to the addon exploit that they fixed, would it?
I said that page 1, post 16.
Yo OP, ok mate take care and good luck with your next game.
Let me get this straight... After all that has transpired over the last few months, with *rabid* fan boys and haters running a Crusade against each other, you should some how be immune, when you make a WoW remark in general chat?...
At this point there is NO such thing as an "innocent" comment about WoW, its like waving a bright red flag in front of a bull, or a bloody steak in front of a tiger. I suspect the hysteria level will start to fade out in a couple of months. But until then, unless you are trolling, or want to start a flame war, its just not wise to open that topic. ^^
As I've stated, I like Rift and enjoy it. Thats good enough for me. I'm not looking for the One True Game(tm), but I wish all of you who are the very best of luck.
Jesus I'm surprised it took you this long... I'd had enough after beta 4...
the game is like a dumb blonde.. Great to look at but nothing whatsoever upstairs... The lights are on but there's no-one home!!
There are no such things as innocent comments I am convinced most are used to incite a riot.
Yes I agree.
The only thing is where do you drawl the line at a comment vs the lineat trying to start a riot. Some folks are more tolerante of comments than others.
It just depends.. I personally have had nothing but helpful encounters , decent converstions and a few good natured quips in RIFT chat. It just really depends on many factors. The facts are...some people have a bad time....some people have a shitty time....some people don't notice...some people don't care. I expect to have negative encounters in the future...because it's always a mixed bag no matter what MMO I play( and I've played many)...no matter the population.
You guys must realize that WoW players are sick of WoW and they are checkin out Rift. Hopefully they will move on after Beta and return to WoW and the community will be better at release.
Sadly I doubt it cause like I said .. WoW players hate WoW cause it sucks beyond belief,,,rather they want to believe it or not..
But judging a game in BETA is moronic beyond belief
perhaps one should just go back to WoW and remain
"Birds of a feather ... flock together"
Blizzrd better Beware
"We aren't in Azeroth anymore"
I just know one thing: MMO community WERE better in the past, tell me what you want! I never had seen so many asshats in the days of old EQ2, SWG or whatever I played in the early years. It just went downhill the last years in terms of netiquette.
One thing, in older games Everquest for example, there was no solo play. You had to maintain a good reputation or you would not have a group, and as a result you would not advance. Nowadays, you can solo to cap, dungeon find a random group, be as big a jerk as you want and still advance to the end of the game.
stop with your logic sir we will have none of it!
To be honest if you are allowing chat and trolls to ruin your experience then you probably shouldn’t be playing mmo's. Its one thing if you can hear the person but if you are getting upset about people posting hurtful and non-helpful things you need to just find it out for yourself. playing an mmo alone defeats the whole purpose of the game. ATM Rift is free you don’t have to pay for it or subscribe to it. Once that actually has to happen the people who find it funny to try to ruin a game will for the most part go away. So honestly if it upsets you that bad don’t play it. simple as that.
*sniff*.....*sniff*...Ahhhhh yes....freshly baked Truth. It always smells so sweet...just like Mama used to make.
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To OP..sorry you're done with RIFT. Having a decent time myself between this excellent themepark and XSYON for my sandbox fix.
OP you will find mean and inpolite people whereever you go, that just seems to be how human nature is. Overtime I have come to realize how selfish , inconciderate, and rude people are. Just from talking to people, and listening to them talking bad about everyone they know. It's always ME, Me, Me. Just the way it is. Even if it seems like a person is trying to do an act of kindness , usually it all comes back to something they are doing for themselves.
I am not surprised there are asses in the chat channels. In most gaming communities you find the occassional ass. More so in others. This game is in beta, hopefully all the nasty people revealing their true forms through the internet, will all leave when it comes time to have to buy the game and sub.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I didn't even bother to pre-order, so I guess I saved a step from cancelling.
I see no value at all in this game.
Wrong.
Judging a game in beta is 100% valid, considering:
A.) You are paying for that game in a few days time when it goes live, which means that unless you believe in 'Miracle Mega-Revamp Patches' that all of these game fanboys preach in betas (along with the tooth fairy),
B.) That is the game you are getting for the first few months.
Free open beta = free to troll chat channels.
Pro tip - never credit a game for their public chat channels during a beta event.
In all the random dungeon groups I've formed or joined, the guild I helped form to test the guild UI features, even most of the Warfront groups and Invasion raids I've found nothing but friendly, well behaved, and helpful people.
Measuring community is IMPOSSIBLE - different on each server, each faction, each region etc.
That being said, the chat channels were horrible. /leave 1-9 channel is the first thing you should do.
Way too many free loaders and "testers" with nothing productive to say other then to troll and flame each other.
That being said, once the game DOES go live anyone who actually buys the game and spends their time trolling and flaming other people in the public chat channels is simply a pathetic moron.
/ignore will be used. All will prosper.
Vote with your wallet - pay to play and cut the crap or move along and shut up about it on forums like these.
I for one plan on reporting people who troll/flame the public chat channels on release - that kind of behavior should not be allowed in game, or on the official forums. period.
Constructive criticism is a concept so terribly foreign to so many internet wanna-be's it's astounding.
I see SO many of the same people every day on these Rift forums, people who you can easily tell have absolutely zero chance of buying and playing the game at release... I honestly have to ask - what's the point? Get over yourselves.
Vote with your wallet and shut the hell up. No one cares. Not about my opinion, and certainly not about yours.
This is truth.
No like any other MMO it doesn't suck people are just tired of the status quo regardless if you can wrap your head around that fact or not. And you act as if everyone from WoW is like this while any popular MMO will have the people that open mouth before thinking which I think you tend to do a lot, you also have your other players. And from your rabid responses across other boards saying stuff like "RIFT IS GREAT WOW IS FOR ASSHATS" you sure are promoting your community a lot different than what you speak against huh? Pot meet kettle.
And if Rift offers more of a polished product than WoW, than you will have to deal with what WoW will lose and good riddence. Also judging a game this late in the BETA yes you can get at least from a gameplay/enviroment standpoint good standing of the game and if you are going to enjoy it.
I do not think that is a fact at all.
If it was, would WoW still have millions of subscribers? Would Rift be as popular and hyped?
Would SWTOR be as popular and hyped?
YOU may be tired of the status quo, many on these specific forums may be tired of the status quo, but there are millions of players who like games like WoW and Rift and LOTRO etc. etc. and they will keep playing them.
Don't get confused as to think a minority opinion is anything more then it is.
We live in a very fortunate time where there are dozens of quality titles available for MMO fans to enjoy. There is a lot of variety and a lot of competition.
I just think the "status quo haters" are just upset because their titles don't receive the same level of funding and support and as such polish and resources as the more mainstream titles. I call it the "hipster conundrum."
Really then why the uproaring from everyone to say this is sooo much different than WoW? And really millions of players like WoW? No kidding that's why their sub base is so high. I have no problem with WoW Rift or LOTOR actually sub to WoW and testing a couple other MMOs. And if you think it's a minority that people are sick of the status quo look at how many games in the past 4 years have touted to be the better thing than WoW, even with Rift saying "We're not in Azeroth Anymore" they are trying to change the status quo. And don't get Casual MMOers confused with the customer base of actual MMO's cause they flock to the next shiny thing like a magpie.
No it's because we play MMO's for a different reason than current crowd and what the current state of games offer. Funding and support and such polish and resources does not = a better game. And I don't really call anything "my titles" seeing as I didn't develop for them or do anything other than fork over my money for the game. Don't get being tired of the status quo confused with being a fanboy of certain titles/developers.
... looks at my quote... sandbox MMO veteran of 12+ years...
I think the problem is that there hasn't been a good sandbox game since UO and yes that fully includes SWG and FFXI and EVE which IMO are/were terrible games for a variety of reasons I care not to go into on this forum as it is off topic...
Rift does what it sets out to do and does it very well. That may not be to certain individuals liking, but no one is forcing anyone to play.
Rift does a lot of things really well, some not so much, and I find it hillarious one would argue against polish as being one of the primary indicators of a quality product.
Yep. That damn Blizzard has such a horrible game that they can't even keep their subscriptions up over the last six plus years.... ^^ Do you have ANY idea what most Dev's would do to have even HALF (6 million) of the sustained player base WoW has? I like Rift. Its a good, polished game. Its entertaining. Thats all I'm looking for. But make no mistake. The only threat to WoW at this point is Blizzard itself.
So true. I've always ignored the chat channel in MMOs. If you want guidance into how something works, use the forums or the help button.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft