I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
How do you meet new people? By running solo quests? Or by doing dungeons together with people you don't know. How did you met the people that invited you in your guild in the first place?
An already established in a guild player is not going to get affected by a cross server tool. Somebody who is just starting and wants to make friends will see himself unable to do so because all the dungeon runs are wired to be done by unknowns as a one time meet event only.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
How do you meet new people? By running solo quests? Or by doing dungeons together with people you don't know. How did you met the people that invited you in your guild in the first place?
An already established in a guild player is not going to get affected by a cross server tool. Somebody who is just starting and wants to make friends will see himself unable to do so because all the dungeon runs are wired to be done by unknowns as a one time meet event only.
Once again there are tons of people running around all over doing rifts/quests. A RDF isnt gonna keep you from meeting and friending them in anyway. Its even easier in Rift because of the open grouping.
To the original question my answer is absolutely no.
The reason why I don't like current MMORPGs is because they look more like multiplayer games, with no real server community.
Cross server integration is very handy for developers because even with a low population their MMO looks like is popular.
But at the same time it kills the community on the single server which is the main reason I play a MMO.
I will keep playing WoW until something different comes out, this game doesn't offer anything more or better than the Blizzard game and a new world to explore is not enough incentive.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
To the original question my answer is absolutely no.
The reason why I don't like current MMORPGs is because they look more like multiplayer games, with no real server community.
Cross server integration is very handy for developers because even with a low population their MMO looks like is popular.
But at the same time it kills the community on the single server which is the main reason I play a MMO.
I will keep playing WoW until something different comes out, this game doesn't offer anything more or better than the Blizzard game and a new world to explore is not enough incentive.
Please explain to me how it will kill the community in Rift? Not the other game but in Rift. The game with "rifts" everywhere of all levels and types. There is people everywhere running together as a community doin them. Plus the crazy invasions. This isnt the other game.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once again that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
To the original question my answer is absolutely no.
The reason why I don't like current MMORPGs is because they look more like multiplayer games, with no real server community.
Cross server integration is very handy for developers because even with a low population their MMO looks like is popular.
But at the same time it kills the community on the single server which is the main reason I play a MMO.
I will keep playing WoW until something different comes out, this game doesn't offer anything more or better than the Blizzard game and a new world to explore is not enough incentive.
Please explain to me how it will kill the community in Rift? Not the other game but in Rift. The game with "rifts" everywhere of all levels and types. There is people everywhere running together as a community doin them. Plus the crazy invasions. This isnt the other game.
People move together as "numbers" not as a community.
The fact that you gather few players to play the rifts or the invasions doesn't make it a community.
Those are just zerg events where numbers are more importat than skills.
Once the event is up, no one remembers who you are or what you've done.
Worse is with cross server dungeons, where you can behave like a complete arse, and get away with it, because no one will remember you, when they get back to their server.
I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
To the original question my answer is absolutely no.
The reason why I don't like current MMORPGs is because they look more like multiplayer games, with no real server community.
Cross server integration is very handy for developers because even with a low population their MMO looks like is popular.
But at the same time it kills the community on the single server which is the main reason I play a MMO.
I will keep playing WoW until something different comes out, this game doesn't offer anything more or better than the Blizzard game and a new world to explore is not enough incentive.
Please explain to me how it will kill the community in Rift? Not the other game but in Rift. The game with "rifts" everywhere of all levels and types. There is people everywhere running together as a community doin them. Plus the crazy invasions. This isnt the other game.
People move together as "numbers" not as a community.
The fact that you gather few players to play the rifts or the invasions doesn't make it a community.
Those are just zerg events where numbers are more importat than skills.
Once the event is up, no one remembers who you are or what you've done.
Worse is with cross server dungeons, where you can behave like a complete arse, and get away with it, because no one will remember you, when they get back to their server.
I met people doin them specially in the longer invasions. Its all about you. yes there are people that do like u said but they are the same ones just a qucik to leave after the or durning the dungeon group you just spent forever putting togther. Some people are just un-social period. Would still rather have it then not. Point is there are plenty of ways to meet new people with one and form groups on your own if u wish.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
You are making the assumption now that people play a game for all the different features.
It is clear that a lot of people go in for specific features ie Rifts, Dungeons, quests, pvp (... the ones I forgot).
So there will be people not interested in the Rifts or after a while won't be interested.
Again I am trying to convey you the concept that a dungeon tool will isolate a chunk of the community.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
You are making the assumption now that people play a game for all the different features.
It is clear that a lot of people go in for specific features ie Rifts, Dungeons, quests, pvp (... the ones I forgot).
So there will be people not interested in the Rifts or after a while won't be interested.
Again I am trying to convey you the concept that a dungeon tool will isolate a chunk of the community.
How will they be isolated from all the other people in the game. Will the dungeon finder make it impossible to see all the people running around in the world and in the city? Will thier chat stop working? Wether its there or not they still have the same options they had before it. And becuase this is rift they will have more than in the other games. Even if they hate rifts and all the other things to do besides dungeons. The people that do like them will still be there and they will still be able to talk to the and form groups all they want. Its starting to sound like a very small percentage of people your talking about. They can choose not to use it if they like.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
You are making the assumption now that people play a game for all the different features.
It is clear that a lot of people go in for specific features ie Rifts, Dungeons, quests, pvp (... the ones I forgot).
So there will be people not interested in the Rifts or after a while won't be interested.
Again I am trying to convey you the concept that a dungeon tool will isolate a chunk of the community.
How will they be isolated from all the other people in the game. Will the dungeon finder make it impossible to see all the people running around in the world and in the city? Will thier chat stop working? Wether its there or not they still have the same options they had before it. And becuase this is rift they will have more than in the other games. Even if they hate rifts and all the other things to do besides dungeons. The people that do like them will still be there and they will still be able to talk to the and form groups all they want. Its starting to sound like a very small percentage of people your talking about. They can choose not to use it if they like.
Cross server? No. Keep the dungeon loot in the server it was found on. Cross server crap outside of arena pvp screws up economies.
How does mostly BOP gear out of a dungeon kill the economy? Sure there is a random world drop, but its a "world" drop. Just not seein dungeon loot being the death of a economy.
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
You are making the assumption now that people play a game for all the different features.
It is clear that a lot of people go in for specific features ie Rifts, Dungeons, quests, pvp (... the ones I forgot).
So there will be people not interested in the Rifts or after a while won't be interested.
Again I am trying to convey you the concept that a dungeon tool will isolate a chunk of the community.
How will they be isolated from all the other people in the game. Will the dungeon finder make it impossible to see all the people running around in the world and in the city? Will thier chat stop working? Wether its there or not they still have the same options they had before it. And becuase this is rift they will have more than in the other games. Even if they hate rifts and all the other things to do besides dungeons. The people that do like them will still be there and they will still be able to talk to the and form groups all they want. Its starting to sound like a very small percentage of people your talking about. They can choose not to use it if they like.
This question is answered by looking at wow ...
Thank you for making my point.
Once again i ask how? This is not WoW. This is Rift. How is it goin to in "RIFT" with all its options?
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I hope that by the time they implement a cross server tool (if they ever implement a cross server tool), new MMOs will be out, because it'll be the time I'll be abandoning the game for something that doesn't offer this kind of community killing tools.
Those of you who played WoW and used the cross server tool, ask yourselves. How many of the random people you met ended up in your friends list?
For me there is no point putting somebody that I'll never going to meet again in my friends list.
No, it's the most stupid tool ever developed.
Do want
Dungeon Finder tool ... Don't care.
Cross Server Dungeon Finder tool ... Hell No!
Cross server? No. Then again, I do not want the Warfronts to be cross server.
Servers should be self-contained.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Why would you want to put someone from another server in your list? They are from another server. Its not about maken new friends its about maken sure you get in there and get it done. You want friends thats what your guild is for or hey go meet them at all the rifts everywhere. Still dont see how one would kill the community in Rift with all the "rifts" goin on. This is not the other game.
How do you meet new people? By running solo quests? Or by doing dungeons together with people you don't know. How did you met the people that invited you in your guild in the first place?
An already established in a guild player is not going to get affected by a cross server tool. Somebody who is just starting and wants to make friends will see himself unable to do so because all the dungeon runs are wired to be done by unknowns as a one time meet event only.
This is where wow went down the drain ... exactly here!
Once again there are tons of people running around all over doing rifts/quests. A RDF isnt gonna keep you from meeting and friending them in anyway. Its even easier in Rift because of the open grouping.
To the original question my answer is absolutely no.
The reason why I don't like current MMORPGs is because they look more like multiplayer games, with no real server community.
Cross server integration is very handy for developers because even with a low population their MMO looks like is popular.
But at the same time it kills the community on the single server which is the main reason I play a MMO.
I will keep playing WoW until something different comes out, this game doesn't offer anything more or better than the Blizzard game and a new world to explore is not enough incentive.
That was WoW. This is Rift. There is alot more leveling choices in it. Way more ways to meet new people and be social. If people cant find a way to meet new people and be social here maybe they arent as social as they thought they were.
Please explain to me how it will kill the community in Rift? Not the other game but in Rift. The game with "rifts" everywhere of all levels and types. There is people everywhere running together as a community doin them. Plus the crazy invasions. This isnt the other game.
Well some people are shy. Some people just roam the world and meet future friends on a whim and maybe get invited to a guild through those world interactions.
And why should you discard people because they are less social then you.
Don't portray your own characteristics on everyone in the world. Not everyone is like you.
I think we can safely say it is a fact that the cross server dungeon finder tool had a lot to do with killing the community in wow. It could be it made running dungeons easier since the game is top heavy. But Rift isn't at this point yet. So lets not bring that evil tool in when it's not at all necessary.
Im lost now. People wondering the world of rifts with all the rifts in it can only find and meet new people through dungeons? Somthin tells me they gonna be meeting people through the rifts before the dungeons. If the RDF killed communties in WoW once again that was WoW this is Rift. If ya dont like the "evil tool" because of a different game experience then dont use.
It is not about us people who know how a mmo is supposed to work to abstain from using the tool ... it is about people who are new to mmo's not to think this is a "normal" feature.
If you put this tool in I can guarantee that a whole bunch of people will think this is a normal feature and they will never leave the towns.
This immediately scraps a big chunk of the community resulting in a smaller amount of people to meet out in the world.
I don't know how many times I need to repackage this concept for you to understand.
People move together as "numbers" not as a community.
The fact that you gather few players to play the rifts or the invasions doesn't make it a community.
Those are just zerg events where numbers are more importat than skills.
Once the event is up, no one remembers who you are or what you've done.
Worse is with cross server dungeons, where you can behave like a complete arse, and get away with it, because no one will remember you, when they get back to their server.
Why will they stay in the towns when there is so much to gain from all the rifts? I see your arguement but its based off of WoW. This is not World of Warcraft where the only thing to do out in the world is quest and explore. New people to this game "Rift" get introduced to them right off the bat and know the benefit of them and usen them for gear and more from the start. So they wont be in town sitting around waiting for a que. O and the shinies. Lots to do out there. Not really seein people sitting around in town waiting for that. Well unless they have explored everywhere done all the quests gotten every single reward from the rifts and collected all the shinies and done every puzzle/acheivement. I like the shroom one.
I met people doin them specially in the longer invasions. Its all about you. yes there are people that do like u said but they are the same ones just a qucik to leave after the or durning the dungeon group you just spent forever putting togther. Some people are just un-social period. Would still rather have it then not. Point is there are plenty of ways to meet new people with one and form groups on your own if u wish.
You are making the assumption now that people play a game for all the different features.
It is clear that a lot of people go in for specific features ie Rifts, Dungeons, quests, pvp (... the ones I forgot).
So there will be people not interested in the Rifts or after a while won't be interested.
Again I am trying to convey you the concept that a dungeon tool will isolate a chunk of the community.
Cross server? No. Keep the dungeon loot in the server it was found on. Cross server crap outside of arena pvp screws up economies.
How will they be isolated from all the other people in the game. Will the dungeon finder make it impossible to see all the people running around in the world and in the city? Will thier chat stop working? Wether its there or not they still have the same options they had before it. And becuase this is rift they will have more than in the other games. Even if they hate rifts and all the other things to do besides dungeons. The people that do like them will still be there and they will still be able to talk to the and form groups all they want. Its starting to sound like a very small percentage of people your talking about. They can choose not to use it if they like.
agree here a 100%, for pvp the cross server grouping is fine.....but for pve its realy a no go imho.
This question is answered by looking at wow ...
Thank you for making my point.
How does mostly BOP gear out of a dungeon kill the economy? Sure there is a random world drop, but its a "world" drop. Just not seein dungeon loot being the death of a economy.
Once again i ask how? This is not WoW. This is Rift. How is it goin to in "RIFT" with all its options?