OP, you are so right. There are way too many Star Wars MMO's out there nowadays. Just yesterday I went into my local games shop and asked for one and I couldn't decided because of the amount of choices I had.
Now, without the sarcasm, there is only 1, yes, that's right, just 1 Star Wars MMORPG that is currently available at this present time. Even that is dying and there is another one on the way due to release later this year at best. My guess is that you may be fed up with the amount of hype that is surrounding this game.
Now, if you think about the SW in the terms of a sci fi genre MMO, then see how those are outweighed by the amount of fantasy MMO's that out out there in the mainstream MMO market, you should be thankfull that there is more choice in the current market.
Now OP, if I am wrong, please tell me about the other SW MMO's I have missed out that you were thinking of when you made your thread.
Well, You can recall that.. but i seem to recall every other 'big' title calling everything a wow killer and crap. so what makes tor and gw 2 so different
Contrary to other MMOs, TOR and GW2 never did anything to suggest they are after the 'wow market'.
GW2 is B2P so it might as well be a single player game from a consumer's expense perspective.
TOR is going after the 'Made by Bioware = buy instantly' gamers. Which there are millions. (including me ^_^)
Talk is PR and PR is... well PR. But if you look at their business decision/game mechanics/payment systems both are going after a different audience. Will there be overlaps? Of course there will be.
Its kinda like Linux/Windows. Both are after a different type of consumer with small overlaps.
what MMO's ever do suggest they will take over the market. its all the crap people around that start saying it.. people will play what they like, and people will complain about what other people like.
This thread being one of those "complain what people like" threads. SW:TOR has a killer IP and killer devs behind it. And the theme is hardly more redundant than a lot of crap published these days. It has a lot of merit and hopefully will hold its own with the big boys in the industry (I think it most likely will).
Only thing that can kill WoW is people cancelling. Im sure LA/Bioware wont complain if players subscribe to both WoW and TOR, after all this business is about making money, not just the brutal, emphatic death of the opposition. I however enjoy watching things die, as eloquently put in that one song by Tool. So if someone or something dies when TOR goes online, all the better.
Lets just be hypothetical for a minute here, lets say SWTOR isn't actually star wars but something like um.....Mass Effect or even a fantasy genre like Elder Scrolls or Guild Wars, if SWTOR is a great game, does it even matter? does it matter than you have a choice to wield a blade generated from laser beams with epic visual effects when collide?
It does not, a great game is a great game, popularity is another issue, being a Star Wars MMO doesn't change my view on the game one bit, if it is bad, it is bad, no amount of star wars is gonna change the fact that it is shxt.
Also in respond to your "I just don't see the exciting factor there like you guys with light sabers and Jedi powers.", there are 8 base classes with 4 per faction, with 4 being Jedi related classes, assuming each 4 class per faction mirror each other in ultility, there are still 2 classes per faction for you to try out in the game. Assuming Jedi is going to consume the entire game is like thinking Unicorn are 99% of every fantasy game, they are great, but they aren't everything.
Surely a lot of people are going to try out non-force related classes, some probably won't even bother with playing the entire story, just focusing on crafting and other sizzle-nizzle, no big deal here.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Considering that there's only been 1 Star Wars MMO ever released, and it takes place thousands of years after the one that is in development, I don't see how the SW MMO theme is getting old.
You like the movies more than anything else? Sorry for your taste! The novels and games based on the movies are generally far better than the movies themselves. All GL did wonderfully was create an amazing universe that was pretty much an infinite sandbox for others to play & create in. It's those others who have brought the SW IP to the level it is today.
The movies are really the weakest part of the franchise (unless you count The Clone Wars toon). Its strong point being a great canvas for others to use their imaginations. One of the best ways to get the most people to use that canvas is through video games, and even more specifically, MMOS.
And if you think just because its star wars, that everyone wants to run around as a jedi, you're just flat out wrong. The whole concept that made SWG popular in its hayday was that everyone was just a regular schmuck in the verse. One might argue that the introduction of the alpha jedi class was the beginning of the end for the game. Not because everyone neccesarily wanted to be a Jedi, but that they wanted the best and most powerful character possible. I couldn't have cared less about being a jedi, i just didn't want to have to bend over and "accomodate" a lightsaber every time I pvped.
As for TOR? There are plenty of folks who would rather bounty hunt, smuggle and spy than wield the schwartz!
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For those who are not a mmorpg Star Wars fan, do you guys get sick of the fans overly excited expectations for the theme?
I am a fan of Star Wars but never was for the online game, and now the new one coming out. I seen them growing up the movies, then in my teens and the last ones, kinda over the whole star wars thing. I just don't see the exciting factor there like you guys with light sabers and Jedi powers. Maybe I am more impressed by the movies. So what is the whole nerd excitement still over after all these years ever since SONY basically screwed your first one up. Are light sabers really that interesting over maybe Indiana Jones or Ghostbusters, now those would make cool mmorpg's.
Expecting some hate but nothing I said was hateful, just a question on thoughts if anyone else sees it like me that the whole Star Wars thing is over played even though it had one major title previously for a mmorpg.
I'm an old Star Wars fan (Original Trilogy all the way; Prequels suck; Han shot first ). Not excited at all about SWTOR. As a matter of fact, I do have big gripes about what BioWare has shown / said about its gameplay. Still, I will not fault fans for being excited about something.
Like me and Hockey. I don't care much for it but I don't gripe about it when my friends who are heavily into it talk about it.
You're also going into old and new Star Wars Fandom. That's a different thing itself. But in regards to Star Wars itself, I do things simple. I just disregard alot of the newer stuff and take solace with the older stuff (ESB all the way, baby).
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Even Firefly universe is far cooler and more contemporary.
No it isnt.
The Firefly universe is actually very dull - americans and chinese people on a couple planets, a corrupt central regime and some reavers outside, ... anything I missed ?
Star Wars has thousands of planets (even if they somehow insist of reusing the same ones over and over again) and thousands of races (even if somehow 80% of all people are humans).
For those who are not a mmorpg Star Wars fan, do you guys get sick of the fans overly excited expectations for the theme?
I am a fan of Star Wars but never was for the online game, and now the new one coming out. I seen them growing up the movies, then in my teens and the last ones, kinda over the whole star wars thing. I just don't see the exciting factor there like you guys with light sabers and Jedi powers. Maybe I am more impressed by the movies. So what is the whole nerd excitement still over after all these years ever since SONY basically screwed your first one up. Are light sabers really that interesting over maybe Indiana Jones or Ghostbusters, now those would make cool mmorpg's.
Expecting some hate but nothing I said was hateful, just a question on thoughts if anyone else sees it like me that the whole Star Wars thing is over played even though it had one major title previously for a mmorpg.
Simple for me really... It's not Plate/mail/leather/cloth armor wearing Sword and Board/staves/maces/bows & arrows, with orges, kolbolds, dragons and other stupid shit that is soooooo boring now. It will be a perfect and much needed change for me, I already know TOR will be my final game for life...
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Actually the only downside to the SW IP to me is that this IP's pimp, mister George Lucas, gets a slice of our monthly subs.
Which I'm sure he will use to further bankroll his attemps to turn Indiana Jones into Wile E. Coyote.Or build his own real life Death Star. Either of which spells trouble for all of us.
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OP, you are so right. There are way too many Star Wars MMO's out there nowadays. Just yesterday I went into my local games shop and asked for one and I couldn't decided because of the amount of choices I had.
Now, without the sarcasm, there is only 1, yes, that's right, just 1 Star Wars MMORPG that is currently available at this present time. Even that is dying and there is another one on the way due to release later this year at best. My guess is that you may be fed up with the amount of hype that is surrounding this game.
Now, if you think about the SW in the terms of a sci fi genre MMO, then see how those are outweighed by the amount of fantasy MMO's that out out there in the mainstream MMO market, you should be thankfull that there is more choice in the current market.
Now OP, if I am wrong, please tell me about the other SW MMO's I have missed out that you were thinking of when you made your thread.
I didn't say there were more then one Star Wars mmo, find please where I said that. I think the issue is most people read the title of a thread or barely first sentence then just go ahead and post what they think.
The problem for me a non fan of the mmo type is one, I seen it all before. The over Hype the major discussions on here and then the our game is broke we hate it. Now all I see over any mmo forum is constant threads about how it's going to be better then anything else and it's way better then the first one. All I am saying is yes I hate the over hyped fans of the series being so confident this is the best thing since pea soup.
So take it for what it is I don't care really, fact is I been here since the launch of this site. I have a retired 2002 account that is older then probably most of the said hardcore fans, probably not but some do act like children around here. So basically I seen everything before and as stated I think Star Wars is well over played as a ip even with having one previous mmorpg. I guess also I am posting this not just because of this site but countless other places where the fans hype and make it like it's the best game coming. That is how I mean over played, not over played as an ip cause they only made one so far and this is the second. I think there are far better original Sci-Fi mmorpgs out there. Also this one seems a little cartoonish to me, like others have said.
For those who are not a mmorpg Star Wars fan, do you guys get sick of the fans overly excited expectations for the theme?
I am a fan of Star Wars but never was for the online game, and now the new one coming out. I seen them growing up the movies, then in my teens and the last ones, kinda over the whole star wars thing. I just don't see the exciting factor there like you guys with light sabers and Jedi powers. Maybe I am more impressed by the movies. So what is the whole nerd excitement still over after all these years ever since SONY basically screwed your first one up. Are light sabers really that interesting over maybe Indiana Jones or Ghostbusters, now those would make cool mmorpg's.
Expecting some hate but nothing I said was hateful, just a question on thoughts if anyone else sees it like me that the whole Star Wars thing is over played even though it had one major title previously for a mmorpg.
I'm an old Star Wars fan (Original Trilogy all the way; Prequels suck; Han shot first ). Not excited at all about SWTOR. As a matter of fact, I do have big gripes about what BioWare has shown / said about its gameplay. Still, I will not fault fans for being excited about something.
Like me and Hockey. I don't care much for it but I don't gripe about it when my friends who are heavily into it talk about it.
You're also going into old and new Star Wars Fandom. That's a different thing itself. But in regards to Star Wars itself, I do things simple. I just disregard alot of the newer stuff and take solace with the older stuff (ESB all the way, baby).
I agree with you. Only thing is there is a difference in showing your love for a game versus hyping it just cause you think it's better then everything else. Same can be said for how warhammer online was so hyped by fans and turned out to be a total POS. I say go ahead say you like the game but don't say how it's the best game ever and will kill other mmorpgs.
the idea of a starwars mmo is not old at all and im sure the game bioware puts out will be good. the problem is starwars just feels old now, locas has milked the ip to hell and back. the new movies are horrible, most single player starwars games are crap and just try to sell on name alone. Just the name starwars puts me off now because locus has ruined the ip
I don't think it's old . I would have liked to have seen a Firefly MMO though...but the only race would be human I guess. Some people might get bored with no alien options...I'd be fine with it. Still...I like the idea of a decent Star Wars MMO set during the times of the Old Republic....or I guess in the game it would just be known as The Republic.
It's not that sw is getting old for me , its just TOR put me off after the first demo I watched . Just not what I expected from the sw universe. I was actually bored after the 10 minute demo , so I couldn't see me wanting to play it tbh, hardly looked at it since.
If it was like a star wars version of planetside ( with full scale war going on like in empire strikes back: the battle for ice planet hoth) with a sandbox element and player driven economy like swg was, that fits into star wars for me.
Star Wars is, for me , a pvp universe , hence the name Star Wars . Not a couple of 'battlezones' tagged on the end as a token Gesture.With natural envoironmental monsters to spice things up.
Not to mention that in the lore itself , there is only ever 2 sith : a master and apprentice . No more, no less. So the idea that you could have loads of sith with light sabers running around , while obviously a wet dream to some , is a non starter. And using the whole trinity concept of tank /dps/ healer is just laughable within this IP.
I'm sure it will be popular , and Bioware should make it a reasonable game for many . I just think the Star Wars name is just thrown on the front end to sell more copies. It could have been Tin Tin online for me if you changed the reference and been more viable.
Originally posted by demiqus Not to mention that in the lore itself , there is only ever 2 sith : a master and apprentice . No more, no less. So the idea that you could have loads of sith with light sabers running around , while obviously a wet dream to some , is a non starter.
The idea isnt getting old, what is getting old the era in which a lot of the SW Universe is shown. The Clone Wars thru Return of the Jedi is really pretty well fleshed out in the Extended Universe and beyond. If Bioware had gone this route, I think we'd see lukewarm interest at best, because there just isnt enough to explore.
The right call was to get any MMO out of that time period so that a world can be explored and fleshed out. Like the above poster said regarding two Sith, master and apprentice only? It shows that most people are familiar with the later era. Bioware now has an earlier era to play with, where they dont have those constraints and they are the ones who are really writing their own universe, instead of trying to fill in one that is already written.
If they were going to do it, this was the right call for both them, and the franchise. If something can breathe new life into the IP, it'll be the result of getting people interested in the IP from a different period of time.
Star Wars can never get old for me, its my favorite universe(where i would like to live) and besides there was only 1 MMO so far., with a second one coming.
And like someone said, Lightsabers are the coolest weapon ever.
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If it was like a star wars version of planetside ( with full scale war going on like in empire strikes back: the battle for ice planet hoth) with a sandbox element and player driven economy like swg was, that fits into star wars for me. Yeah, SWTOR as MMOFPS a la Planetside with planets like Hoth where there's a nonstop waging massive scale warfare I think would have been awesome. The sandbox elements, I don't find that an automatic fit to a Star Wars universe at all, just like SWG wasn't an automatic fit as a Star Wars universe or SW MMO to a lot of players and SW fans, except maybe for sandbox game fans.
Star Wars is, for me , a pvp universe , hence the name Star Wars . Not a couple of 'battlezones' tagged on the end as a token Gesture.With natural envoironmental monsters to spice things up.
SWTOR will have open world pvp with objectives, there'll even be open world pvp areas on the PvE servers.
Not to mention that in the lore itself , there is only ever 2 sith : a master and apprentice . No more, no less. So the idea that you could have loads of sith with light sabers running around , while obviously a wet dream to some , is a non starter.
SWTOR takes place in a an era of the SW Expanded Universe where there were a lot of Sith running around, every SW fan with even average SW knowledge knows that it wasn't always just 2 Sith. In fact, SWTOR is truer to the Star Wars lore and canon than SWG was.
I'm sure it will be popular , and Bioware should make it a reasonable game for many . I just think the Star Wars name is just thrown on the front end to sell more copies.
Right. One of the best Star Wars games was created by BW, and everything points towards SWTOR capturing the SW atmosphere from KOTOR magnificently. So yes, advocates and fans of the SWG approach to Star Wars probably have enough to mourn about, but that doesn't mean that other approaches to the Star Wars universe can't be viable and maybe even better too. After all, BW already produced a hugely successful Star Wars game
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
I have to disagree that Star Wars is a pvp universe just because "wars" is in the IP name. It is not Star Wars...it is the Star Wars Universe. War is not just PvP but conflict of all kinds....eg. The Cold War....granted..many covert deaths probably occurred....or Storage Wars...never seen them fight physically over a locker...ok...that was dumb...but still. The Old Republic in the title reflects the time the game occurs...which...while full of conflict of all kinds..also has many types of sentient life going about their respective lives because the universe is the setting .A war just happens to be going on as well.
Not to mention that in the lore itself , there is only ever 2 sith : a master and apprentice . No more, no less. So the idea that you could have loads of sith with light sabers running around , while obviously a wet dream to some , is a non starter.
I laughed, that's pretty funny.
The fact that there are only 2 Sith is not part of the "lore." The Sith were an actual civilization. The statement that you are referring to was an acknowledgement of cause and effect. The identification that if there is one Sith there must be other Sith to teach him.
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OP, you are so right. There are way too many Star Wars MMO's out there nowadays. Just yesterday I went into my local games shop and asked for one and I couldn't decided because of the amount of choices I had.
Now, without the sarcasm, there is only 1, yes, that's right, just 1 Star Wars MMORPG that is currently available at this present time. Even that is dying and there is another one on the way due to release later this year at best. My guess is that you may be fed up with the amount of hype that is surrounding this game.
Now, if you think about the SW in the terms of a sci fi genre MMO, then see how those are outweighed by the amount of fantasy MMO's that out out there in the mainstream MMO market, you should be thankfull that there is more choice in the current market.
Now OP, if I am wrong, please tell me about the other SW MMO's I have missed out that you were thinking of when you made your thread.
This thread being one of those "complain what people like" threads. SW:TOR has a killer IP and killer devs behind it. And the theme is hardly more redundant than a lot of crap published these days. It has a lot of merit and hopefully will hold its own with the big boys in the industry (I think it most likely will).
Only thing that can kill WoW is people cancelling. Im sure LA/Bioware wont complain if players subscribe to both WoW and TOR, after all this business is about making money, not just the brutal, emphatic death of the opposition. I however enjoy watching things die, as eloquently put in that one song by Tool. So if someone or something dies when TOR goes online, all the better.
Why do you think Star Wars is getting old? SWTOR is the second MMO based on this IP.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It is set in the KOTOR timeline, some 10,000 years before the movies and the first Star Wars MMO.
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Lets just be hypothetical for a minute here, lets say SWTOR isn't actually star wars but something like um.....Mass Effect or even a fantasy genre like Elder Scrolls or Guild Wars, if SWTOR is a great game, does it even matter? does it matter than you have a choice to wield a blade generated from laser beams with epic visual effects when collide?
It does not, a great game is a great game, popularity is another issue, being a Star Wars MMO doesn't change my view on the game one bit, if it is bad, it is bad, no amount of star wars is gonna change the fact that it is shxt.
Also in respond to your "I just don't see the exciting factor there like you guys with light sabers and Jedi powers.", there are 8 base classes with 4 per faction, with 4 being Jedi related classes, assuming each 4 class per faction mirror each other in ultility, there are still 2 classes per faction for you to try out in the game. Assuming Jedi is going to consume the entire game is like thinking Unicorn are 99% of every fantasy game, they are great, but they aren't everything.
Surely a lot of people are going to try out non-force related classes, some probably won't even bother with playing the entire story, just focusing on crafting and other sizzle-nizzle, no big deal here.
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
Actually the only downside to the SW IP to me is that this IP's pimp, mister George Lucas, gets a slice of our monthly subs.
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Considering that there's only been 1 Star Wars MMO ever released, and it takes place thousands of years after the one that is in development, I don't see how the SW MMO theme is getting old.
You like the movies more than anything else? Sorry for your taste! The novels and games based on the movies are generally far better than the movies themselves. All GL did wonderfully was create an amazing universe that was pretty much an infinite sandbox for others to play & create in. It's those others who have brought the SW IP to the level it is today.
The movies are really the weakest part of the franchise (unless you count The Clone Wars toon). Its strong point being a great canvas for others to use their imaginations. One of the best ways to get the most people to use that canvas is through video games, and even more specifically, MMOS.
And if you think just because its star wars, that everyone wants to run around as a jedi, you're just flat out wrong. The whole concept that made SWG popular in its hayday was that everyone was just a regular schmuck in the verse. One might argue that the introduction of the alpha jedi class was the beginning of the end for the game. Not because everyone neccesarily wanted to be a Jedi, but that they wanted the best and most powerful character possible. I couldn't have cared less about being a jedi, i just didn't want to have to bend over and "accomodate" a lightsaber every time I pvped.
As for TOR? There are plenty of folks who would rather bounty hunt, smuggle and spy than wield the schwartz!
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I'm an old Star Wars fan (Original Trilogy all the way; Prequels suck; Han shot first
). Not excited at all about SWTOR. As a matter of fact, I do have big gripes about what BioWare has shown / said about its gameplay. Still, I will not fault fans for being excited about something.
Like me and Hockey. I don't care much for it but I don't gripe about it when my friends who are heavily into it talk about it.
You're also going into old and new Star Wars Fandom. That's a different thing itself. But in regards to Star Wars itself, I do things simple. I just disregard alot of the newer stuff and take solace with the older stuff (ESB all the way, baby).
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
No it isnt.
The Firefly universe is actually very dull - americans and chinese people on a couple planets, a corrupt central regime and some reavers outside, ... anything I missed ?
Star Wars has thousands of planets (even if they somehow insist of reusing the same ones over and over again) and thousands of races (even if somehow 80% of all people are humans).
SW is far more original than all those fantasy copy pasta MMOs. Elfs, dwarfs and magic everywhere.
Simple for me really... It's not Plate/mail/leather/cloth armor wearing Sword and Board/staves/maces/bows & arrows, with orges, kolbolds, dragons and other stupid shit that is soooooo boring now. It will be a perfect and much needed change for me, I already know TOR will be my final game for life...
There aren't enough SWTOR type games out there. There are too many WoW-like game out there. Give me mystical Jedi over mystical Elves any day.
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I didn't say there were more then one Star Wars mmo, find please where I said that. I think the issue is most people read the title of a thread or barely first sentence then just go ahead and post what they think.
The problem for me a non fan of the mmo type is one, I seen it all before. The over Hype the major discussions on here and then the our game is broke we hate it. Now all I see over any mmo forum is constant threads about how it's going to be better then anything else and it's way better then the first one. All I am saying is yes I hate the over hyped fans of the series being so confident this is the best thing since pea soup.
So take it for what it is I don't care really, fact is I been here since the launch of this site. I have a retired 2002 account that is older then probably most of the said hardcore fans, probably not but some do act like children around here. So basically I seen everything before and as stated I think Star Wars is well over played as a ip even with having one previous mmorpg. I guess also I am posting this not just because of this site but countless other places where the fans hype and make it like it's the best game coming. That is how I mean over played, not over played as an ip cause they only made one so far and this is the second. I think there are far better original Sci-Fi mmorpgs out there. Also this one seems a little cartoonish to me, like others have said.
I agree with you. Only thing is there is a difference in showing your love for a game versus hyping it just cause you think it's better then everything else. Same can be said for how warhammer online was so hyped by fans and turned out to be a total POS. I say go ahead say you like the game but don't say how it's the best game ever and will kill other mmorpgs.
Nope
the idea of a starwars mmo is not old at all and im sure the game bioware puts out will be good. the problem is starwars just feels old now, locas has milked the ip to hell and back. the new movies are horrible, most single player starwars games are crap and just try to sell on name alone. Just the name starwars puts me off now because locus has ruined the ip
No.
I don't think it's old . I would have liked to have seen a Firefly MMO though...but the only race would be human I guess. Some people might get bored with no alien options...I'd be fine with it. Still...I like the idea of a decent Star Wars MMO set during the times of the Old Republic....or I guess in the game it would just be known as The Republic.
It's not that sw is getting old for me , its just TOR put me off after the first demo I watched . Just not what I expected from the sw universe. I was actually bored after the 10 minute demo , so I couldn't see me wanting to play it tbh, hardly looked at it since.
If it was like a star wars version of planetside ( with full scale war going on like in empire strikes back: the battle for ice planet hoth) with a sandbox element and player driven economy like swg was, that fits into star wars for me.
Star Wars is, for me , a pvp universe , hence the name Star Wars . Not a couple of 'battlezones' tagged on the end as a token Gesture.With natural envoironmental monsters to spice things up.
Not to mention that in the lore itself , there is only ever 2 sith : a master and apprentice . No more, no less. So the idea that you could have loads of sith with light sabers running around , while obviously a wet dream to some , is a non starter. And using the whole trinity concept of tank /dps/ healer is just laughable within this IP.
I'm sure it will be popular , and Bioware should make it a reasonable game for many . I just think the Star Wars name is just thrown on the front end to sell more copies. It could have been Tin Tin online for me if you changed the reference and been more viable.
I laughed, that's pretty funny.
The idea isnt getting old, what is getting old the era in which a lot of the SW Universe is shown. The Clone Wars thru Return of the Jedi is really pretty well fleshed out in the Extended Universe and beyond. If Bioware had gone this route, I think we'd see lukewarm interest at best, because there just isnt enough to explore.
The right call was to get any MMO out of that time period so that a world can be explored and fleshed out. Like the above poster said regarding two Sith, master and apprentice only? It shows that most people are familiar with the later era. Bioware now has an earlier era to play with, where they dont have those constraints and they are the ones who are really writing their own universe, instead of trying to fill in one that is already written.
If they were going to do it, this was the right call for both them, and the franchise. If something can breathe new life into the IP, it'll be the result of getting people interested in the IP from a different period of time.
Star Wars can never get old for me, its my favorite universe(where i would like to live) and besides there was only 1 MMO so far., with a second one coming.
And like someone said, Lightsabers are the coolest weapon ever.
Played: SWG-FFXI-EQ2-Aion
Anticipated in order of Hype:
ArcheAge
GW2
TERA
SWTOR
Not enough info, but looks promising:
Blade & Soul
Right. One of the best Star Wars games was created by BW, and everything points towards SWTOR capturing the SW atmosphere from KOTOR magnificently. So yes, advocates and fans of the SWG approach to Star Wars probably have enough to mourn about, but that doesn't mean that other approaches to the Star Wars universe can't be viable and maybe even better too. After all, BW already produced a hugely successful Star Wars game
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
I have to disagree that Star Wars is a pvp universe just because "wars" is in the IP name. It is not Star Wars...it is the Star Wars Universe. War is not just PvP but conflict of all kinds....eg. The Cold War....granted..many covert deaths probably occurred....or Storage Wars...never seen them fight physically over a locker...ok...that was dumb...but still. The Old Republic in the title reflects the time the game occurs...which...while full of conflict of all kinds..also has many types of sentient life going about their respective lives because the universe is the setting .A war just happens to be going on as well.
The fact that there are only 2 Sith is not part of the "lore." The Sith were an actual civilization. The statement that you are referring to was an acknowledgement of cause and effect. The identification that if there is one Sith there must be other Sith to teach him.