Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
Well the same can be told to any game in development since ages ago
So what you are saying is a bit irrelevant
So what you are saying..... is that it applies to all games but is irrelevant? Don't you think that sounds a tad bit illogical? Anyway I haven't hyped anything and I am only trying to make a point. I am neither a SWTOR or GW2 fanboi...... I hope that both are great games and that I get to enjoy both of them. If one of them is not to my liking, then I won't play it. I won't write either of them off till I try them. I won't deny myself the experience of something or base my opinions on how good something might be on prerelease advertisements and limited / controlled gameplay experiences of gaming magazine writers and fans at conventions. It is alright to get excited about something, but always remember things may not be as they seem. I was merely pointing out that he doesn't "know" the things he claims he knows. He has an idea in his head of how it will be, but he doesn't know how it will be.
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
ugh.. and I think Japan doesnt exist because I've never been there and Australia is an apocalyptic wasteland with Potemkins villages!
your logic is wrong, there is quite a huge amount of raw gameplay videos, and from my experience when I see a video game gameplay and I like it, I usually(usually like in the meaning of always) like playing the game as well
for now we know the PVE works pretty incredibly, we are only waiting for the PvP side of things and minigames
I am not hyping that (as others are doing here, saying that the pvp will be extremely balanced as was the original GW - dont say this BS, we dont know yet! ), but just the fact that there will be 3sided world PvP (yup Im calling Mists a world PvP) gets me happy enough
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
ugh.. and I think Japan doesnt exist because I've never been there and Australia is an apocalyptic wasteland with Potemkins villages!
your logic is wrong, there is quite a huge amount of raw gameplay videos, and from my experience when I see a video game gameplay and I like it, I usually(usually like in the meaning of always) like playing the game as well
for now we know the PVE works pretty incredibly, we are only waiting for the PvP side of things and minigames
I am not hyping that (as others are doing here, saying that the pvp will be extremely balanced as was the original GW - dont say this BS, we dont know yet! ), but just the fact that there will be 3sided world PvP (yup Im calling Mists a world PvP) gets me happy enough
No... I am really not trying to argue with you, but I feel that you don't get my point so I will use your example. You know Japan exists just like you know GW2 exists. You don't know what Japan is like, because you have never been to Japan. You can read about it, read about other peoples' experiences, but you don't actually know how it is until you have been there and lived there. You can imagine you would like living there and even think you know about the culture, but until you have actually been there and experienced it, you don't really know......you have an idea in your head of how it will be. I am not trying to crush your dreams.....or even convince you differently...... I am just making a point to you and the thousands of other people that keep posting this stuff about both games......that none of us really knows and we won't know until we play beta or the games launch. Until then we can speculate and talk about how we hope it will be this way, but we can't really say that it is until we ourselves play the game. Also....the raw gameplay videos are again done in a limited / controlled environment allowing people to experience what they wanted them to experience. They are showcasing the game in attempt to generate hype....which they are obviously doing quite well.
Next time, before stating someone's logic is wrong.... avoid stating things like usually and then correcting youself in parentheses right afterward saying meaning always...... *shakes head and sighs*
No... I am really not trying to argue with you, but I feel that you don't get my point so I will use your example. You know Japan exists just like you know GW2 exists. You don't know what Japan is like, because you have never been to Japan. You can read about it, read about other peoples' experiences, but you don't actually know how it is until you have been there and lived there. You can imagine you would like living there and even think you know about the culture, but until you have actually been there and experienced it, you don't really know......you have an idea in your head of how it will be. I am not trying to crush your dreams.....or even convince you differently...... I am just making a point to you and the thousands of other people that keep posting this stuff about both games......that none of us really knows and we won't know until we play beta or the games launch. Until then we can speculate and talk about how we hope it will be this way, but we can't really say that it is until we ourselves play the game. Also....the raw gameplay videos are again done in a limited / controlled environment allowing people to experience what they wanted them to experience. They are showcasing the game in attempt to generate hype....which they are obviously doing quite well.
Ok so basicly we have this worthless argue about me using word "know" instead of "assume" or "think" ...now I know why I stopped posting here anything for a long time until recent...Im prolly going to stop again it seems O.o
But I'd still bet this one wont flop at all
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Yes, because they are going to manipulate the entire gaming world that people are simultaneously playing from other parts of the country and also the offices, and then release the game entirely different than what everyone was playing. Just for the lulz.
Fail harder in your trolling.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Wait a minute, so now if it was experienced, but only a little it doesn't count? We could use the example of visiting a country you used earlier and say that you only took a tour with a tourguide through that place. Even though it was "limited" you still experienced it and got a pretty good idea of what it's like.
But anyway, when you've played a game, even a demo, you pretty much know how it plays and what to expect from it. Even from watching videos you can tell how it's like. I don't get where your going with this "know" stuff, but it seems like you think they're just showing us something that really isn't. However, this is a big budget game with amazing people behind it, I'm 99.99% sure it's going to turn out how it is in the demos and what they say it is.
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Yes, because they are going to manipulate the entire gaming world that people are simultaneously playing from other parts of the country and also the offices, and then release the game entirely different than what everyone was playing. Just for the lulz.
Fail harder in your trolling.
Do you honestly believe they're showcasing their weaknesses at the conventions? o.O
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Yes, because they are going to manipulate the entire gaming world that people are simultaneously playing from other parts of the country and also the offices, and then release the game entirely different than what everyone was playing. Just for the lulz.
Fail harder in your trolling.
Do you honestly believe they're showcasing their weaknesses at the conventions? o.O
It's not about weaknesses, you're missing the entire point of the post. The person said they didn't ~know~ any of the things that another poster mentioned. He didn't claim to know everything about the game, there were certain aspects he pointed out, and I vouched for them. No where did I say the game was or was going to be perfect, and what is a 'weakness' depends on the player; some will find the lack of open pvp a weakness, some will find it the best part of the game. See how that works?
You're off on a bit of a tangent there. As for the original post, I was one of the people who went to the convention (sort of an accidental thing, planned to visit a friend, convention was announced, on it went from there). I know the world is lush and large because I explored it. I know the choices of skills and combinations are vast because I tried them (and since then, underwater combat has been announced, adding even more skill combinations to the mix). I know the story is great because I got to see how the personal instance worked, got to fight of marauders as they were trying to burn down ~my~ home and ~my~ NPCs were running about like decapitated chickens waiting for me to make everything better. I assume that was part of the orphanage storyline that was mentioned a while ago.
But I suppose whatshisface was right about one thing, we still don't ~know~ if the game will be a success. I can bet it will, but I don't actually know yet. If he'd left it there I wouldn't have bothered, but to assume the game is still some mystery no one knows anything about then get upset when proven otherwise is just sort of...lol. By that logic, we don't know anything about any game, ever, since 6 months from now an expansion could come and shittwist everything on its ass. Though I suppose that has happened in the past (WoW, SWG, etc) but then do we ever really know anything? *twilight zone music*
See how silly that sort of thinking gets?
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
That wasd liek the first time they showed the game off course they wer going to win the new wer games always win the awards apparently u don't know how the judging works.
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Yes, because they are going to manipulate the entire gaming world that people are simultaneously playing from other parts of the country and also the offices, and then release the game entirely different than what everyone was playing. Just for the lulz.
Fail harder in your trolling.
You just don't get it. You played an experience that they set up for you. As another post stated....they are going to showcase something that might not be received well by their intended audience...... but anyway I hope the game rocks too.
That wasd liek the first time they showed the game off course they wer going to win the new wer games always win the awards apparently u don't know how the judging works.
??? Well, I was super pumped when I saw Kirby Wii at E3 but it didn't win any type of award...
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
That wasd liek the first time they showed the game off course they wer going to win the new wer games always win the awards apparently u don't know how the judging works.
ArenaNet/GW2 didn't go to EA because it isn't a public event. They want fans to play their game, not the press. The 'fanday' they did a few days ago was almost the equivalent of their E3.
E3 is just advertisement. Nothing more. And ArenaNet clearly know they have so many other opportunities for that, including better or more benefitial ways.
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
GamesCom and PAX Prime are proper game conventions, where fans get to meet the developers and play the demo.
E3 is overrated press-only bull****. Developers only go to E3 for publicity and awards (which give publicity).
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
Hyping and not living to your expectation is caused by misinformation
What Ive seen on this forum and what I still laugh at are people that heard something in a brief intervirew/trailer and get hyped and creating increatable content in their heads, without actually reading on something about the truth
Thats why people got overexcited about rift, about warhammer about conan and about pretty much every MMO released so far
I always read as much as I can about games I want to play and I can say Im pretty objective about what is possible and what not - afterall Im a programmer as well
Now when I say I am hyped for GW2, I mean Im looking forward to play dynamic contents because I know to the tinniest bit how they work
Im looking forward to play bar brawls which I supposed would be similar to skill changin in underwater combat
Im looking forward to my Story because I know the way it looks and plays
Im looking forward to play minigames (even tho Im NOT expecting much yet, since I havent seen any gameplay of it)
Im looking forward to just explore the world, because it looks absolutely gorgeus
Im looking forward to the sheer amount of combat possibillities (traits, weapon switching)
and etc etc..
And I know this game will be succesfull because lots of these features werent in any previous MMO released (plus its B2P - succes guaranteed)
howgh
You don't"know"anything.You have read about things and have an idea about things....... but that is it. You haven't played it yet or experienced it yet and therefore you don't "know" anything. I am not trying to flame you but the only things you have seen or read are the things that they have wanted you to see. Often things that seem great on paper or look great on released videos don't necessarily translate into fun when actually experienced. All you have to do is ask my six year old kid..... he watches TV and asks for everything that he sees in the commercials. It always looks fun....but when he gets the toy........ it isn't quite the experience he expected.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Wait a minute, so now if it was experienced, but only a little it doesn't count? We could use the example of visiting a country you used earlier and say that you only took a tour with a tourguide through that place. Even though it was "limited" you still experienced it and got a pretty good idea of what it's like.
But anyway, when you've played a game, even a demo, you pretty much know how it plays and what to expect from it. Even from watching videos you can tell how it's like. I don't get where your going with this "know" stuff, but it seems like you think they're just showing us something that really isn't. However, this is a big budget game with amazing people behind it, I'm 99.99% sure it's going to turn out how it is in the demos and what they say it is.
A lot of people loved the demos of AOC and WAR.....Rift...... and countless other games. They watched the gameplay videos and played them at conventions and said the same things. All I am trying to say is just wait and see. So many people hype things beyond the point of attainable expectations.
As far as visiting countries go.... you are right. I have been and lived all over the world. Tours aren't enough. They are like a demo.... you have to live there to truly know a place...... you have an idea by visiting a place and doing the tourist thing.... but living there is completely another story.
I personally hope GW2 is the answer to all of my dreams and will most definitely give it a go when it comes out..... I just don't believe the hype till I actually play it myself.
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
GamesCom and PAX Prime are proper game conventions, where fans get to meet the developers and play the demo.
E3 is overrated press-only bull****. Developers only go to E3 for publicity and awards (which give publicity).
U proved my point for me fan conventions are just that fans of the game voted for could so happen that more guyild wars 2 fans came the TOR.
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So what you are saying..... is that it applies to all games but is irrelevant? Don't you think that sounds a tad bit illogical? Anyway I haven't hyped anything and I am only trying to make a point. I am neither a SWTOR or GW2 fanboi...... I hope that both are great games and that I get to enjoy both of them. If one of them is not to my liking, then I won't play it. I won't write either of them off till I try them. I won't deny myself the experience of something or base my opinions on how good something might be on prerelease advertisements and limited / controlled gameplay experiences of gaming magazine writers and fans at conventions. It is alright to get excited about something, but always remember things may not be as they seem. I was merely pointing out that he doesn't "know" the things he claims he knows. He has an idea in his head of how it will be, but he doesn't know how it will be.
Person 1: This game is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Everything about it is perfect!
Person 2: Yeah? What's the PvP like?
Person 1: Umm... we don't know yet.
Person 2: ...
I believe this game has great potential. But as stevebmbsqd says: The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
ugh.. and I think Japan doesnt exist because I've never been there and Australia is an apocalyptic wasteland with Potemkins villages!
your logic is wrong, there is quite a huge amount of raw gameplay videos, and from my experience when I see a video game gameplay and I like it, I usually(usually like in the meaning of always) like playing the game as well
for now we know the PVE works pretty incredibly, we are only waiting for the PvP side of things and minigames
I am not hyping that (as others are doing here, saying that the pvp will be extremely balanced as was the original GW - dont say this BS, we dont know yet! ), but just the fact that there will be 3sided world PvP (yup Im calling Mists a world PvP) gets me happy enough
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
No... I am really not trying to argue with you, but I feel that you don't get my point so I will use your example. You know Japan exists just like you know GW2 exists. You don't know what Japan is like, because you have never been to Japan. You can read about it, read about other peoples' experiences, but you don't actually know how it is until you have been there and lived there. You can imagine you would like living there and even think you know about the culture, but until you have actually been there and experienced it, you don't really know......you have an idea in your head of how it will be. I am not trying to crush your dreams.....or even convince you differently...... I am just making a point to you and the thousands of other people that keep posting this stuff about both games......that none of us really knows and we won't know until we play beta or the games launch. Until then we can speculate and talk about how we hope it will be this way, but we can't really say that it is until we ourselves play the game. Also....the raw gameplay videos are again done in a limited / controlled environment allowing people to experience what they wanted them to experience. They are showcasing the game in attempt to generate hype....which they are obviously doing quite well.
Next time, before stating someone's logic is wrong.... avoid stating things like usually and then correcting youself in parentheses right afterward saying meaning always...... *shakes head and sighs*
Ok so basicly we have this worthless argue about me using word "know" instead of "assume" or "think" ...now I know why I stopped posting here anything for a long time until recent...Im prolly going to stop again it seems O.o
But I'd still bet this one wont flop at all
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
that is exactly how i feel about this game.
I don't know why you think other people can't 'know' something about this game. Some of us are testers, some of us have traveled to PAX and other conventions to play, etc. Believe it or not, some of us truly do ~know~ what we're hyped for.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Sure, if you are a tester you would know..... but then again you shouldn't be telling us about it. If you travelled to a convention...then you tried an experience that was prepared for you..... a limited experience that was presented to you so you wouldn't "know".......... Next time try reading all of the posts before commenting.....
Yes, because they are going to manipulate the entire gaming world that people are simultaneously playing from other parts of the country and also the offices, and then release the game entirely different than what everyone was playing. Just for the lulz.
Fail harder in your trolling.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Wait a minute, so now if it was experienced, but only a little it doesn't count? We could use the example of visiting a country you used earlier and say that you only took a tour with a tourguide through that place. Even though it was "limited" you still experienced it and got a pretty good idea of what it's like.
But anyway, when you've played a game, even a demo, you pretty much know how it plays and what to expect from it. Even from watching videos you can tell how it's like. I don't get where your going with this "know" stuff, but it seems like you think they're just showing us something that really isn't. However, this is a big budget game with amazing people behind it, I'm 99.99% sure it's going to turn out how it is in the demos and what they say it is.
Do you honestly believe they're showcasing their weaknesses at the conventions? o.O
any mmo developer that doesnt show for e3 is hiding something or they know being compared to swtor was going to make them look bad sorry but arena net chooses the lower conference instead of the bigger ones and imo it's because they cant run with the big dogs. I really would like to know what videos your watching cause all i have seen is the same pve one and some class videos that are about 45 secs- 1 min long.
It's not about weaknesses, you're missing the entire point of the post. The person said they didn't ~know~ any of the things that another poster mentioned. He didn't claim to know everything about the game, there were certain aspects he pointed out, and I vouched for them. No where did I say the game was or was going to be perfect, and what is a 'weakness' depends on the player; some will find the lack of open pvp a weakness, some will find it the best part of the game. See how that works?
You're off on a bit of a tangent there. As for the original post, I was one of the people who went to the convention (sort of an accidental thing, planned to visit a friend, convention was announced, on it went from there). I know the world is lush and large because I explored it. I know the choices of skills and combinations are vast because I tried them (and since then, underwater combat has been announced, adding even more skill combinations to the mix). I know the story is great because I got to see how the personal instance worked, got to fight of marauders as they were trying to burn down ~my~ home and ~my~ NPCs were running about like decapitated chickens waiting for me to make everything better. I assume that was part of the orphanage storyline that was mentioned a while ago.
But I suppose whatshisface was right about one thing, we still don't ~know~ if the game will be a success. I can bet it will, but I don't actually know yet. If he'd left it there I wouldn't have bothered, but to assume the game is still some mystery no one knows anything about then get upset when proven otherwise is just sort of...lol. By that logic, we don't know anything about any game, ever, since 6 months from now an expansion could come and shittwist everything on its ass. Though I suppose that has happened in the past (WoW, SWG, etc) but then do we ever really know anything? *twilight zone music*
See how silly that sort of thinking gets?
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
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And yep.. SWTOR was there too. Big dogs ey?
Eat me!
That wasd liek the first time they showed the game off course they wer going to win the new wer games always win the awards apparently u don't know how the judging works.
same thing happened at PAX prime.
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
You just don't get it. You played an experience that they set up for you. As another post stated....they are going to showcase something that might not be received well by their intended audience...... but anyway I hope the game rocks too.
??? Well, I was super pumped when I saw Kirby Wii at E3 but it didn't win any type of award...
Like i said it was their first time out with a demo of course they one the award. sorry gamescon and pax arnt shit compared to e3 and arena net hasnt showed up once.
the only show where SWTOR won big since guild Wars 2 was shown was the one where it was the only MMO shown.
ArenaNet/GW2 didn't go to EA because it isn't a public event. They want fans to play their game, not the press. The 'fanday' they did a few days ago was almost the equivalent of their E3.
E3 is just advertisement. Nothing more. And ArenaNet clearly know they have so many other opportunities for that, including better or more benefitial ways.
GamesCom and PAX Prime are proper game conventions, where fans get to meet the developers and play the demo.
E3 is overrated press-only bull****. Developers only go to E3 for publicity and awards (which give publicity).
People at E3: 45,600
People at Pax prime: 67,000
People at gamescom: a whopping 245,000 people.
Don't believe me? Google it.
A lot of people loved the demos of AOC and WAR.....Rift...... and countless other games. They watched the gameplay videos and played them at conventions and said the same things. All I am trying to say is just wait and see. So many people hype things beyond the point of attainable expectations.
As far as visiting countries go.... you are right. I have been and lived all over the world. Tours aren't enough. They are like a demo.... you have to live there to truly know a place...... you have an idea by visiting a place and doing the tourist thing.... but living there is completely another story.
I personally hope GW2 is the answer to all of my dreams and will most definitely give it a go when it comes out..... I just don't believe the hype till I actually play it myself.
U proved my point for me fan conventions are just that fans of the game voted for could so happen that more guyild wars 2 fans came the TOR.