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remember, a very wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
This place is full of tree-huggers and tofu fartn' faeries...
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This place is full of tree-huggers and tofu fartn' faeries...
In my opinion, i dont really care if OTHER people have abortions. That is their choice and not ours. If you don't like abortions, then DONT HAVE ONE. Its simple....
remember, a very wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
6.450.000.000 world population more than half again than it can comfortably support and clean.
Abortion:
1. The embryo's heart begins beating between the 18th and 25th day after conception.
2. Brain waves by the 45th day.
3. 20 weeks is considered the minimum a fetus can survive outside the womb.
4. Pregnancy from rape is extremely rare 200 to 300 a year. It is more an emotional responce (ugly trauma) than a medical justification.
5. Killing deformed, diseased babies is a matter of ethics, vs family planning. euthanasia
6. RU 486 (mifepristone) is part of a two-drug abortion technique that kills a developing unborn baby after it's heart has already begun to beat is usually administered within 28 to 49 days after her last menstrual period. (Hoechst Marion Roussel Company merge from Marion Merrell Dow 1995) vs manual vacuum aspiration or partial birth...
6.B. Morning after pill, within 72 hours of sex this emergency contraception is two doses of pills and a pregnancy test.
7. 50% of fertilized ova fail to implant in the uterine wall and 25% of all pregnancies miscarriage.
8. 90% of all abortions are done during the first two months of pregnancy (fetus is 1" or less.) About 1.2 million / year in US. These terminations are usually because the woman did not want the baby.
8.B. 9% are second trimester (140,000.) Again usually the woman did not want the baby, or is unable to support it and is no longer able to hide the pregnancy... induced labor, Dilation and Evacuation (vacuum) or Extraction (partial birth.) (Pres Bush signed a bill to outlaw D&X- partial birth, though many injunctions have been obtained to block that law.)
8.C. Third-trimester (+21 week) abortions are rare, about 1%. Medical societies generally prohibited except to save the woman's life, fetus died in womb or serious disabling health consequences.
9. Ectogenesis .
This is asking to be another "Do you believe in God" thread
But for the record I don't care
Don't you worry little buddy. You're dealing with a man of honor. However, honor requires a higher percentage of profit
Which is about as logical as "In my opinion, i dont really care if OTHER people murder. That is their choice and not ours. If you don't like murders, then DONT DO ONE. Its simple....". We have laws to protect the innocent and keep some level of standards, not some sort of carefree "I dont care what others do". If by your logic, we should make everything legal, as everyone is a responisble induvidual.
remember, a very wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
Except that there are two people involved, you and the child. Seeing as the child didn't ask to be involved in this whole affair, your rights take a back seat to the childs.
Except that there are two people involved, you and the child. Seeing as the child didn't ask to be involved in this whole affair, your rights take a back seat to the childs.
actually there are three poeple involved. Your are also forgetting the father. What happens if he wants the baby? hasnt there been trials or whatever where the father was debating that he wanted the child but the mother wanted an abortion?
remember, a very wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
My wife is pro-life and I know of at least 2000 women personally from my last profession who are pro-life
Trust me....it isn't a man issue
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Personally I believe the only excuse for an abortion is if the situation was, both were doomed to die, except you had a choice of either letting them both die, or abort the baby and let the mother survive.
Otherwise you have no excuse for murder. No matter how you spin it, you're killing a human life without cause or reason.
You can say it really isn't alive yet because it hasn't reached a certain level of the development process. But that's so relative and varying from person to person. The only logical conclusion would be that it's alive at conception.
Abortion can only be processed as being right if you answer in your mind, "Ending the life of an innocent person without their permission and cause (murder) is by all means right and moral."
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Well, for my argument the father is actually irrelevant. If the mother's rights supercede those of her childs, then the father sure as hell doesn't have any.
Sucked? Bad pun.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
Which is about as logical as "In my opinion, i dont really care if OTHER people murder. That is their choice and not ours. If you don't like murders, then DONT DO ONE. Its simple....". We have laws to protect the innocent and keep some level of standards, not some sort of carefree "I dont care what others do". If by your logic, we should make everything legal, as everyone is a responisble induvidual.
How can what i said turn into "make everything legal!"? I dont think you know what you are talkign about. Sure, i dislike the fact that lives are being taken through abortion because the parents aren't the able to take care of the child. I would rather the parents have an abortion rather then trying to raise child if they won't beable to take care of them. I do not consider it an act of murder as you put it. And since i can't do anythign about it, i just don't care if people do it or not. As I said before, Its their choice, not ours.
Sucked? Bad pun.
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People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Sucked? Bad pun.
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Yea really, thanks for the visual lol. I will have a hard time sleeping tonight.
remember, a very wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn
The flag burning ban thread get's locked but they left this peice of shit in? Is there no justice? People are going to do what people are going to do. Right? Wrong? It's called free will. You can't force a decision one way or another. For it or against it, you need to just live with it and quit bitching. When you try to force a way of thinking, you encourage opposition regardless of what you're doing.
Free will reigns absolute. You can't change that.