SWG (before Jedi) was a Star Wars game for the adult, e.g., player driven economy, gigantic worlds with player housing, player cities, player malls, superior crafting, in-depth surveying and harvesting, endless clothing options, deep space content, randomized item stats, incentives to use the social tools (cantinas / med centers) etc.
Most everything about SWG was self-sustaining. There was always something to do.
SWTOR, however, is a Star Wars game for the youth. It has story (not yours of course), which will ultimately come to an end. And what of end-game? Can I start a store? Can I plant a house? Can I go off and explore gigantic worlds? Can I go dicken' around in my starship? Can I plop down a guild hall? Can I do anything other than talk to quest giver, collect bear paws, and participate in redundant instanced PvP (Warzones)? NO.
SWTOR is so tied down and linear it's not even funny.
Not so much as you would think. Even the planets you start on are pretty huge. As for the stuff you mentioned about SWG, yeah, it was nice. Pre-CU was broken, CU fixed a bit of the game and like it's been said millions of times before the NGE killed it.
After the NGE, the problems with dropping houses became clear. Space was just that, lots of empty space basically. Planets were huge, but still had the same problem space had (to me at least), that they were just big for the sake of being big. Not to mention things would still warp through things, crappy spawn places (100m in the air, anyone?) For what the game was then, it was as fun as it was broken.
That being said, if you call yourself a Star Wars fan, you are going to want to try out TOR. It's going to be a solid game with more fun things to play with than what you are thinking.
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
I dont buy into some of the conspiracy theories that Star Wars Galaxies is being shut down simply because The Old Republic is launching. I do generally take them at their word that this has more to do with the fact the license is up and of course the fact the game isnt really doing too great anyways. Why renew it at this point?
Lucasarts will have been planning this for years. I expect internally they have always planned on shutting down SWG before launching SWTOR.
SWG hasnt been doing very well for several years now. Lucasarts knew when SOEs license expired, and they knew their own timescales and planned when to release SWTOR accordingly. It doesnt make sense for LA to license their IP to a competitor when they are just about to release their own MMO, and it probably doesnt make sense for SOE to renew either considering how little they would make from SWG, especially with a shiny new direct competitor, and how expensive the license would be to renew...
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Comparing SWG and ToR is like comparing WoW with EVE online. Totally different games that appeal to totally different players, there's really no sense in arguing about which is better.
The fact of matter about ToR:
1. It's Bioware and they have a flawless record.
2. It's EA and they have an endless pool of money.
3. It's Starwars and it's going to have record sales numbers and fan support.
1+2+3 = a game that is destined to succeed and have continued support and content.
Originally posted by precious328 I personally feel like we have went backwards.
SWG (before Jedi) was a Star Wars game for the adult, e.g., player driven economy, gigantic worlds with player housing, player cities, player malls, superior crafting, in-depth surveying and harvesting, endless clothing options, deep space content, randomized item stats, incentives to use the social tools (cantinas / med centers) etc.
Most everything about SWG was self-sustaining. There was always something to do.
SWTOR, however, is a Star Wars game for the youth. It has story (not yours of course), which will ultimately come to an end. And what of end-game? Can I start a store? Can I plant a house? Can I go off and explore gigantic worlds? Can I go dicken' around in my starship? Can I plop down a guild hall? Can I do anything other than talk to quest giver, collect bear paws, and participate in redundant instanced PvP (Warzones)? NO.
SWTOR is so tied down and linear it's not even funny.
I'm no fan of TOR, but what point are you trying to make here exactly? That conceptually different games are actually conceptually different? I thought we dropped the whole "TOR isn't SWG 2.0" thing like a year a go?
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
SWG (before Jedi) was a Star Wars game for the adult, e.g., player driven economy, gigantic worlds with player housing, player cities, player malls, superior crafting, in-depth surveying and harvesting, endless clothing options, deep space content, randomized item stats, incentives to use the social tools (cantinas / med centers) etc.
Most everything about SWG was self-sustaining. There was always something to do.
SWTOR, however, is a Star Wars game for the youth. It has story (not yours of course), which will ultimately come to an end. And what of end-game? Can I start a store? Can I plant a house? Can I go off and explore gigantic worlds? Can I go dicken' around in my starship? Can I plop down a guild hall? Can I do anything other than talk to quest giver, collect bear paws, and participate in redundant instanced PvP (Warzones)? NO.
SWTOR is so tied down and linear it's not even funny.
Wow! Where do I begin...lol
So SWG was great BEFORE Jedi?...Even though most of the things you complain about not being in SWTOR were still available after Jedi...Right? It amazes Me when I hear this "before Jedi" argument from the fringe...You do realize that you few Folks that were SO anti-Jedi would eventually have been playing all by your lonesome had SWG not brought Jedi in? You do realize that right? Because, generally speaking, 2/3 of the Folks who would play a Star Wars Game want to Play a Jedi Character...And please don't tell me all was well before Jedi came into the Game, and everybody was holding hands and singing Kum Ba Yah before Jedi...Because I was there, and I know it was not all candy, roses, and cute babies...Period...Problems and complaints are what led to the CU, and for GOOD reason!...But anyway...That Game is over and may it RIP...
As for SWTOR no, it's not necessarily any more linear than say...LOTRO...Which is a fantastic, and VERY successful MMO...This has been said a million and a half times both here and on SWTOR's Forums, but you're looking for SWG II, and SWTOR is not going to be a Sandbox Game...What is will be is a Story driven MMO with Maps and just about everything else mirroring the more popular MMO's of today...
SWTOR is not going to be for everybody...But that does not mean it's going to move the genre one way or the other...It just means you won't be playing it because you want something it's not and something SWTOR has been saying it's not since the announcement 3 years ago...That's all we know right now...Peace
Considering that I was a tester for little over a month you're not telling me anything that I don't already know. Also there is no way to tell if the majority in beta liked it or not. That is clearly subjective and an assumption on your part.
Says the guy who constantly says how others will feel about TOR..
"My take is you'll be bored within 4 months and you'll be looking for the next best thing very soon. Only the Bioware diehards will stay, well some of them..."
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Simply, you need to let it go. I'm NOT a fanboi of SWTOR or BioWare. I'm looking forward to plenty of other games. I've played SWTOR. I've pre-ordered SWTOR. If you look at what SWTOR is offering, and you really, honestly, look at how it is played, and the features they have, its more than whats been played before.
While I can't go into details, I can reiterate what I've always said about SWTOR. Everything.... EVERYTHING.. is a step ahead.
For some people, just one step isn't enough, luckily, everybody is different.
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
Anyways do you and the rest of the GW2 fanboys, the burned out mmo vets, the SWG survivors and some others realize that you aren't bringing fresh news here? So... even having a clear idea of what SWTOR will be like, of its possibles flaws, there are lots of people that will play it. No matter what and how many times you will repeat the same speech. Just go and leave it.
BTW we shall see how GW2 will deliver all those revolutionary promisses they're making, but that will be a different chapter.
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
Anyways do you and the rest of the GW2 fanboys, the burned out mmo vets, the SWG survivors and some others realize that you aren't bringing fresh news here? So... even having a clear idea of what SWTOR will be like, of its possibles flaws, there are lots of people that will play it. No matter what and how many times you will repeat the same speech. Just go and leave it.
BTW we shall see how GW2 will deliver all those revolutionary promisses they're making, but that will be a different chapter.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
Anyways do you and the rest of the GW2 fanboys, the burned out mmo vets, the SWG survivors and some others realize that you aren't bringing fresh news here? So... even having a clear idea of what SWTOR will be like, of its possibles flaws, there are lots of people that will play it. No matter what and how many times you will repeat the same speech. Just go and leave it.
BTW we shall see how GW2 will deliver all those revolutionary promisses they're making, but that will be a different chapter.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
If I were you, I'd wait and play it before making any claims.
Originally posted by SaintViktor Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
I just find this post silly because of what you were saying about TOR months ago, defending it like it was your own. Look how your opinion changed when you played it, there are no guarantees when it comes to game development, even if it's coming from A-net.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
You are missing something important: I'm not a fan of anything. There are 3 titles that are coming and make me curious: SWTOR, GW2 and TSW, being the last the one that hypes me the most. And in the end of the day all I want is a game to play and have fun with other people. I carry no flags and I don't wear any shirts, don't worry.
That said, I really have serious doubts about all the promised revolution that GW2 will bring, how it will work, how far it will go, what difficulty level the game will have, etc, but as I said, in the right time we will talk about it.
SWG (before Jedi) was a Star Wars game for the adult, e.g., player driven economy, gigantic worlds with player housing, player cities, player malls, superior crafting, in-depth surveying and harvesting, endless clothing options, deep space content, randomized item stats, incentives to use the social tools (cantinas / med centers) etc.
Most everything about SWG was self-sustaining. There was always something to do.
SWTOR, however, is a Star Wars game for the youth. It has story (not yours of course), which will ultimately come to an end. And what of end-game? Can I start a store? Can I plant a house? Can I go off and explore gigantic worlds? Can I go dicken' around in my starship? Can I plop down a guild hall? Can I do anything other than talk to quest giver, collect bear paws, and participate in redundant instanced PvP (Warzones)? NO.
SWTOR is so tied down and linear it's not even funny.
For the adult? It sounds more like it's for roleplayers. Starting a shop is not the most exciting thing you can do in a video game. Maybe YOU consider that more "adult," but to me it sounds like a second job (yawn).
Player housing is kind of a dumb concept seeing as how you are already in your ACTUAL housing playing the game. So you want to sit around and decorate your virtual housing while sitting in a (presumably) decorated REAL home? It's very meta but it's not going to appeal to everyone.
If you think playing virtual dress-up is one of the more important aspects of a video game, I guess that's your thing but other people may not find that aspect gamebreaking.
You are a roleplayer. I'm sure most players in the early days of MMORPGS were also roleplayers, which is fine. But, the genre has expanded since then to include ALOT of players who are not interested RP. Wanting a virtual job with a virtual shop and house with a virtual wardrobe that you can "dick around" in your virtual spaceship does not make you an adult, it makes you a ROLEPLAYER.
I'm not here to defend SWTOR since I've not played it. I plan on playing it, I have it pre-ordered, my wife and I think it looks like fun. If you think SWTOR is going to be horrible, fine. But, I really wish all the 'Galaxy vets' would stop pretending like they have better taste than everyone else or that they are "super hard-core," you're not. You're ROLEPLAYERS, which in my opinion is very unhard-core.
The problem is that fans have to get over that "I'm a fanboi" mentality and really look at what we're getting here and how it is being done. Sure, I'm a fan of many titles but seriously I leave my fanboi mentality at home when I post on forums. If you look at what TOR is offering and what has been done before there is very little distinction at all since Everquest. I'm also a big Star Wars fan and I was not impressed at all. I cancelled my pre-order and got Mass Effect 3 instead.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
Anyways do you and the rest of the GW2 fanboys, the burned out mmo vets, the SWG survivors and some others realize that you aren't bringing fresh news here? So... even having a clear idea of what SWTOR will be like, of its possibles flaws, there are lots of people that will play it. No matter what and how many times you will repeat the same speech. Just go and leave it.
BTW we shall see how GW2 will deliver all those revolutionary promisses they're making, but that will be a different chapter.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
So the person calling out people having a "fanboi mentality" admits to being a GW2 fanboy.
If dumbification on rails is the new era of gaming i feel ashamed of being called a mmo gamer.
I don't know if it is or it is not the new era but feeling ashamed is a problem that you have to solve with yourself. That said you can leave us dumbs here and go with your intelectual superiority elsewhere.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
Hahahahahah!!!!!!! Stop, you are killing me. Have you seen the GW2 2D VO that just reads the text to you like you are an idiot? The fact that there are 3 different worlds for different play? The fact that it is just a port and play game for instant gradification of pew pew? Dynamic events that are just mob spawns to kill with a boring combat set up with the AoC dodge thrown in? The events that just cycle over and over again that again you just port to and pew pew?
I wanted to play GW2, but the videos make it look very boring and nothing I would spend money on. So go ahead and run back to your 'precious', you can have it. I will enjoy TOR and all it will give me in my gaming entertainment I am looking for.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
my favorite part of swtor, is that first person story line that pertains to your character, i think that is really neat. though you have to do 4x the amount of side quests that mean nothing ....absolutely nothing whatsoever to your main story to the point where you forget you are playing ToR not just WoW in space. I LIVED TO SEE THE GREEN WALLS TO WHERE SOMETHING OF THE ACTUAL STORY OF MY CHARACTER IS GIVIN LIGHT. revolutionary my ass. with all that money they spent on voice acting, not to mention is steve blum and various other regulars in voice acting rehasing their voice but it is highly noticeable*commma* they could have made a decent main story in which most quests pertain to your characters main story and do side quests for shits and giggles if you wanted to. IE mass effect, dragon age, KOTOR,etc....just such a huge disappointment to have a game made by bioware not feel like a bioware game, there are some aspects but core gameplay isnt. Then to hear about the payment model... they should just move over to a system LIKE GW to at least be compettiive to GW2 which launches in spring and by that time people will have aldraedy desubbed from SWTOR. Yea.... WoW in space. and dont get me wrong i love all the lore and story that goes into this game but witht the amount of resourses Bioware put into this game its really now just a polished piece of shit. I couldnt be more saddened by this.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
Hahahahahah!!!!!!! Stop, you are killing me. Have you seen the GW2 2D VO that just reads the text to you like you are an idiot? The fact that there are 3 different worlds for different play? The fact that it is just a port and play game for instant gradification of pew pew? Dynamic events that are just mob spawns to kill with a boring combat set up with the AoC dodge thrown in? The events that just cycle over and over again that again you just port to and pew pew?
I wanted to play GW2, but the videos make it look very boring and nothing I would spend money on. So go ahead and run back to your 'precious', you can have it. I will enjoy TOR and all it will give me in my gaming entertainment I am looking for.
You can look forward to and be a fan of Swtor, but if you're already putting down GW2 and laughing at it, you've likely got such bad taste that it has me seriously wondering if Swtor is going to be even worse than many already suspect.
Seriously liking Swtor is one thing and there's nothing wrong with that, but to laugh at GW2? Yea, Im sure you wont be the only one laughing. Anet will be laughing right along with you. All the way to the bank. They're totally breaking the mold, while Swtor is stuffing itself nicely inside it.
And if GW2 changes the industry? Games like Swtor will become irrelevant faster than you can blink. So enjoy it while you can.
Interesting you are skating very close to calling this game the WoW killer and that brings a lot of bad things and un wanted people.
In my view we know nothing about this game and the list of features it is missing in my book is just too much right now. Maybe after the qq subsides and I see how they handle the launch I will try it, but not a second before.
It is hard for me to put my faith in a company who think same server war front queue's are ever remotely a good idea. It has simply failed over and over and over in every game that tried it.
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Not so much as you would think. Even the planets you start on are pretty huge. As for the stuff you mentioned about SWG, yeah, it was nice. Pre-CU was broken, CU fixed a bit of the game and like it's been said millions of times before the NGE killed it.
After the NGE, the problems with dropping houses became clear. Space was just that, lots of empty space basically. Planets were huge, but still had the same problem space had (to me at least), that they were just big for the sake of being big. Not to mention things would still warp through things, crappy spawn places (100m in the air, anyone?) For what the game was then, it was as fun as it was broken.
That being said, if you call yourself a Star Wars fan, you are going to want to try out TOR. It's going to be a solid game with more fun things to play with than what you are thinking.
Yes, clearly you leave your "fanyboy mentality" at home.
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Lucasarts will have been planning this for years. I expect internally they have always planned on shutting down SWG before launching SWTOR.
SWG hasnt been doing very well for several years now. Lucasarts knew when SOEs license expired, and they knew their own timescales and planned when to release SWTOR accordingly. It doesnt make sense for LA to license their IP to a competitor when they are just about to release their own MMO, and it probably doesnt make sense for SOE to renew either considering how little they would make from SWG, especially with a shiny new direct competitor, and how expensive the license would be to renew...
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Comparing SWG and ToR is like comparing WoW with EVE online. Totally different games that appeal to totally different players, there's really no sense in arguing about which is better.
The fact of matter about ToR:
1. It's Bioware and they have a flawless record.
2. It's EA and they have an endless pool of money.
3. It's Starwars and it's going to have record sales numbers and fan support.
1+2+3 = a game that is destined to succeed and have continued support and content.
Wow! Where do I begin...lol
So SWG was great BEFORE Jedi?...Even though most of the things you complain about not being in SWTOR were still available after Jedi...Right? It amazes Me when I hear this "before Jedi" argument from the fringe...You do realize that you few Folks that were SO anti-Jedi would eventually have been playing all by your lonesome had SWG not brought Jedi in? You do realize that right? Because, generally speaking, 2/3 of the Folks who would play a Star Wars Game want to Play a Jedi Character...And please don't tell me all was well before Jedi came into the Game, and everybody was holding hands and singing Kum Ba Yah before Jedi...Because I was there, and I know it was not all candy, roses, and cute babies...Period...Problems and complaints are what led to the CU, and for GOOD reason!...But anyway...That Game is over and may it RIP...
As for SWTOR no, it's not necessarily any more linear than say...LOTRO...Which is a fantastic, and VERY successful MMO...This has been said a million and a half times both here and on SWTOR's Forums, but you're looking for SWG II, and SWTOR is not going to be a Sandbox Game...What is will be is a Story driven MMO with Maps and just about everything else mirroring the more popular MMO's of today...
SWTOR is not going to be for everybody...But that does not mean it's going to move the genre one way or the other...It just means you won't be playing it because you want something it's not and something SWTOR has been saying it's not since the announcement 3 years ago...That's all we know right now...Peace
Says the guy who constantly says how others will feel about TOR..
"My take is you'll be bored within 4 months and you'll be looking for the next best thing very soon. Only the Bioware diehards will stay, well some of them..."
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Simply, you need to let it go. I'm NOT a fanboi of SWTOR or BioWare. I'm looking forward to plenty of other games. I've played SWTOR. I've pre-ordered SWTOR. If you look at what SWTOR is offering, and you really, honestly, look at how it is played, and the features they have, its more than whats been played before.
While I can't go into details, I can reiterate what I've always said about SWTOR. Everything.... EVERYTHING.. is a step ahead.
For some people, just one step isn't enough, luckily, everybody is different.
LOL! Seriously for sure...
Anyways do you and the rest of the GW2 fanboys, the burned out mmo vets, the SWG survivors and some others realize that you aren't bringing fresh news here? So... even having a clear idea of what SWTOR will be like, of its possibles flaws, there are lots of people that will play it. No matter what and how many times you will repeat the same speech. Just go and leave it.
BTW we shall see how GW2 will deliver all those revolutionary promisses they're making, but that will be a different chapter.
Oh please , almost anyone can see GW2 is leaps and bounds superior than what TOR will be offering but there is only the small handful of TOR fans that will think otherwise. Thats more than ok though!
If I were you, I'd wait and play it before making any claims.
lol
It really is incredible how many people would die to defend/argue for a game they've never even played o_O
I just find this post silly because of what you were saying about TOR months ago, defending it like it was your own. Look how your opinion changed when you played it, there are no guarantees when it comes to game development, even if it's coming from A-net.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You are missing something important: I'm not a fan of anything. There are 3 titles that are coming and make me curious: SWTOR, GW2 and TSW, being the last the one that hypes me the most. And in the end of the day all I want is a game to play and have fun with other people. I carry no flags and I don't wear any shirts, don't worry.
That said, I really have serious doubts about all the promised revolution that GW2 will bring, how it will work, how far it will go, what difficulty level the game will have, etc, but as I said, in the right time we will talk about it.
If dumbification on rails is the new era of gaming i feel ashamed of being called a mmo gamer.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
That's not what I felt a couple of weeks ago.
Whats sad is that these features are considered progress
For the adult? It sounds more like it's for roleplayers. Starting a shop is not the most exciting thing you can do in a video game. Maybe YOU consider that more "adult," but to me it sounds like a second job (yawn).
Player housing is kind of a dumb concept seeing as how you are already in your ACTUAL housing playing the game. So you want to sit around and decorate your virtual housing while sitting in a (presumably) decorated REAL home? It's very meta but it's not going to appeal to everyone.
If you think playing virtual dress-up is one of the more important aspects of a video game, I guess that's your thing but other people may not find that aspect gamebreaking.
You are a roleplayer. I'm sure most players in the early days of MMORPGS were also roleplayers, which is fine. But, the genre has expanded since then to include ALOT of players who are not interested RP. Wanting a virtual job with a virtual shop and house with a virtual wardrobe that you can "dick around" in your virtual spaceship does not make you an adult, it makes you a ROLEPLAYER.
I'm not here to defend SWTOR since I've not played it. I plan on playing it, I have it pre-ordered, my wife and I think it looks like fun. If you think SWTOR is going to be horrible, fine. But, I really wish all the 'Galaxy vets' would stop pretending like they have better taste than everyone else or that they are "super hard-core," you're not. You're ROLEPLAYERS, which in my opinion is very unhard-core.
So the person calling out people having a "fanboi mentality" admits to being a GW2 fanboy.
I don't know if it is or it is not the new era but feeling ashamed is a problem that you have to solve with yourself. That said you can leave us dumbs here and go with your intelectual superiority elsewhere.
Hahahahahah!!!!!!! Stop, you are killing me. Have you seen the GW2 2D VO that just reads the text to you like you are an idiot? The fact that there are 3 different worlds for different play? The fact that it is just a port and play game for instant gradification of pew pew? Dynamic events that are just mob spawns to kill with a boring combat set up with the AoC dodge thrown in? The events that just cycle over and over again that again you just port to and pew pew?
I wanted to play GW2, but the videos make it look very boring and nothing I would spend money on. So go ahead and run back to your 'precious', you can have it. I will enjoy TOR and all it will give me in my gaming entertainment I am looking for.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
my favorite part of swtor, is that first person story line that pertains to your character, i think that is really neat. though you have to do 4x the amount of side quests that mean nothing ....absolutely nothing whatsoever to your main story to the point where you forget you are playing ToR not just WoW in space. I LIVED TO SEE THE GREEN WALLS TO WHERE SOMETHING OF THE ACTUAL STORY OF MY CHARACTER IS GIVIN LIGHT. revolutionary my ass. with all that money they spent on voice acting, not to mention is steve blum and various other regulars in voice acting rehasing their voice but it is highly noticeable*commma* they could have made a decent main story in which most quests pertain to your characters main story and do side quests for shits and giggles if you wanted to. IE mass effect, dragon age, KOTOR,etc....just such a huge disappointment to have a game made by bioware not feel like a bioware game, there are some aspects but core gameplay isnt. Then to hear about the payment model... they should just move over to a system LIKE GW to at least be compettiive to GW2 which launches in spring and by that time people will have aldraedy desubbed from SWTOR. Yea.... WoW in space. and dont get me wrong i love all the lore and story that goes into this game but witht the amount of resourses Bioware put into this game its really now just a polished piece of shit. I couldnt be more saddened by this.
TL;DR WoW rehashed in space srs disappoint.
You can look forward to and be a fan of Swtor, but if you're already putting down GW2 and laughing at it, you've likely got such bad taste that it has me seriously wondering if Swtor is going to be even worse than many already suspect.
Seriously liking Swtor is one thing and there's nothing wrong with that, but to laugh at GW2? Yea, Im sure you wont be the only one laughing. Anet will be laughing right along with you. All the way to the bank. They're totally breaking the mold, while Swtor is stuffing itself nicely inside it.
And if GW2 changes the industry? Games like Swtor will become irrelevant faster than you can blink. So enjoy it while you can.
Interesting you are skating very close to calling this game the WoW killer and that brings a lot of bad things and un wanted people.
In my view we know nothing about this game and the list of features it is missing in my book is just too much right now. Maybe after the qq subsides and I see how they handle the launch I will try it, but not a second before.
It is hard for me to put my faith in a company who think same server war front queue's are ever remotely a good idea. It has simply failed over and over and over in every game that tried it.