the problems with mmorpgs is, ok they are great fun, that they take up to much time and economically it is not really worth it because how much profit do they make ever think about that and then how about all the time you spending sitting infront of your screen turning into a mindless zombie,
I don't think anyone is saying you should spend 24/7 in front of the computer. People should do what they want to do.
But your "economic" point is false. Again, as I pointed out, even moderate playtime of 2 hours a day adds up to $0.25 PER DAY for a $15 monthly subscription. If you play very little, let's say an hour a day, your per day cost is still only $0.50. It's really remarkably cheap compared to virtually anything else ... it's the cost of a newspaper. So I think your economics point is wrong. There are dumb wastes of money in the world (Starbucks for example ... I just don't understand why folks spend $4 on a cup of coffee ...), but MMORPGs are one of the great bargains in life.
Originally posted by Scorpes Originally posted by ElnatorOriginally posted by AnofalyeThe fact you mixt Kunark with Velious content wise show how little you know about the value of every expension, and the amount of work behind. Velious is like an afternoon job, while Kunark was a full week(scalewise). Again, a raider will prefer Velious, because Velious was centered on the Uberaiding guilds.LOL Dude, I played EQ till last year. I'm very familliar with the quality and content and work behind each of it's expansions. I beta tested many of them as well. Just because I happened to mention Vellious and Kunark doesn't mean I think they were equal ammounts of work. Get a clue already. And what you said about COH's expansions is also true in EQ's Every one of them added factions (or had you forgotten that every creature in EQ has a faction?) and new 'customizations' as you put it (new types of armor or gear you can wear to make yourself look more unique). And new skills, yes, almost every EQ expansion added new spells or skills to the game as well. What's your point? That COH managed to pump out 4 expansions the size of Ykesha in a few months? So? The only thing I find impressive about that is that they were all free Then again... they sort of had to... if they'd charged for them nobody would have bought them because COH was pretty lousy at release. (or at least in Beta anyway... I chose not to buy it) All I'm saying is that most of EQ's and DAOC's expansions were worth the money players paid for them. Not to mention comparing the difficulty of adding expansions to those older engines to the newer engines used in 3rd generation MMO's is just silly.Yet another "expert" on a game they dont even play. Review/Forum experience is not the same as game experience. Play CoH for some meaningfull time before you start comparing it to anything. Its called credibility and you are in short supply.
I was not the one comparing them there genius. Someone else brought up their expansions as compared to EQ and, as you'll notice, I said I couldn't since I only played COH in beta. I chose not to buy it because in beta I didn't like it.
Duh.
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Originally posted by ViolentY Originally posted by Elnator Lineage also offers 'free' 'expansions' but they're more like the constant updates that you get in EQ or SWG or whatever. Both of which have added tons of content free of charge. As has DAOC for that matter.
Um, excuse me? Have you ever even played Lineage I or Lineage II? Have you ever even read anything about their expansions? Both Lineage titles add an expansion about every 6 months which is the same size as the average expansion pack. Each expansion adds A LOT of new land, new towns, new items, and maybe even a new race. I've played Lineage I for 6 years and Lineage II for 3 years. I know the game and I know the expansions they give. They aren't "constant updates that you get in EQ or SWG or whatever." You're completely wrong.
Sorry? Yes, I've played Lineage II, not lineage. I got the first 'expansion' before I left Lineage II and wasn't all that impressed with it and left shortly thereafter because they didn't address any of the issues that were causing me not to like the game. If they've improved in quality then I stand corrected I have heard that since I left a lot of the things I hated most have been fixed except the bots... sigh... I really got sick of the bots. I was referring to Lineage II above, not the original. That one I know nothing about as I've never played it.
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MMO's are too expensive they should all be free! And the river by our town should be pure chocolate milk! And it should rain beer! And Angelina Jolie should realize what a loser Brad Pitt is and pick me up in a helicopter! And girls should stop wearing clothes, they interfere with my line of vision!
You buy a game for 15$ what only once a month? Gimme a break, I bet you spend more money buying games that can be finished in 10-40 hours and buy a new one all the time.
I'd rather play a MMORPG non-stop, only pay 15$ a month and that's it. What people don't understand is to STOP buying games once you get into a MMORPG. MMORPGs are already time consumming enough, you don't have to buy every new hit game cause you'll probably never have time to finish it.
Everyone in the game industry knows that subscription based MMORPG are money printing machines. Some people don't care about spending that much money for a game and game developpers know it. They will create that new game with those nice graphics and add some nice features to keep the players as long as they can. They will also add some elements to make you addicted to them.
In the end, they will just add enough features to make you stick with the game while paying for the less possible employees to maximize their profit. After all, what's good of a money printing machine if you cannot get the most of it ?
Err Lets see Since I started playing MMORPG's I have spent less money on video games which, in the end, has saved me money. The monthly fee is necessary since MMO's have to pay for various recurring/ongoing costs and since it's low enough that I don't feel a bite from it it's actually saving me money to play an MMO in the long run because single player games these days last barely 2 weeks. two single player games a month is about $100 right now. My SOE All Access Pass is $21.95 a month. Since moving to MMO's I almost NEVER buy games anymore. Typically I get one or two at Christmas and Birthday from family or from spending cash I was given for my birthday (IE: Free) and maybe one when the tax return hits.
Do the math over the course of a year and figure out how much I'm saving
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Originally posted by Elnator None of the games that offer "free expansions" have added content on the scale that EQ, SWG and DAOC have with their paid expansions.
(I didnt quote the most recents answers on purpose)
CoH Issue 1, from a player point of view about amount of stuff to do, motivation to play, new stuff to see, outmatch Velious(and Ykesha as well). Let's say you disagree, Issue 1 + 4 certainly does, and the 4 of them certainly outmatch any EQ expension.
Which simply prove my point that CoH break that rule about your simple line saying nothing free was of the scale of paid expensions. CoH is powered by Cryptic and they may be from another world with superior ideas, brains & ideas however!
1 exception dront break a rule, but it certainly make a few breachs in it.
Bark as much as you want, this sentence of yours is wrong from a player point of view. I play more on stuff they add in Issue 1 then I play on 50% of the expensions they did in EQ, all while I was subscribed.
PS: I still think that on average, an EQ expension is usually more content filled then any expension I see by competitors...on average, and Velious or Ykesha did extremely poorly (re-skin 1 dragon 20 times can call it an expension? LOL). But CoH is on the same scale from a player point of view(amount of hours of working dont matter, what matter is always from the player point of view) and often beat EQ here and there on some expensions...and CoH will have 2 or 3 times more expensions then a SoE product of the same age will have, which completely leave a SoE product behind, outnumbered...if it took Cryptic less work to achieve better result, all the better for them! (Cryptic prolly have more designers on the project, and SoE prolly took a brash ''programming'' approach with only a skeletal designers crew, but this is purely assuming, maybe those designers where cowed or lazy, I have no idea how it work inside SoE office)
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Originally posted by Anofalye Originally posted by Elnator None of the games that offer "free expansions" have added content on the scale that EQ, SWG and DAOC have with their paid expansions. (I didnt quote the most recents answers on purpose)
CoH Issue 1, from a player point of view about amount of stuff to do, motivation to play, new stuff to see, outmatch Velious(and Ykesha as well). Let's say you disagree, Issue 1 + 4 certainly does, and the 4 of them certainly outmatch any EQ expension.
Which simply prove my point that CoH break that rule about your simple line saying nothing free was of the scale of paid expensions. CoH is powered by Cryptic and they may be from another world with superior ideas, brains & ideas however!
1 exception dront break a rule, but it certainly make a few breachs in it.
Bark as much as you want, this sentence of yours is wrong from a player point of view. I play more on stuff they add in Issue 1 then I play on 50% of the expensions they did in EQ, all while I was subscribed.
PS: I still think that on average, an EQ expension is usually more content filled then any expension I see by competitors...on average, and Velious or Ykesha did extremely poorly (re-skin 1 dragon 20 times can call it an expension? LOL). But CoH is on the same scale from a player point of view(amount of hours of working dont matter, what matter is always from the player point of view) and often beat EQ here and there on some expensions...and CoH will have 2 or 3 times more expensions then a SoE product of the same age will have, which completely leave a SoE product behind, outnumbered...if it took Cryptic less work to achieve better result, all the better for them! (Cryptic prolly have more designers on the project, and SoE prolly took a brash ''programming'' approach with only a skeletal designers crew, but this is purely assuming, maybe those designers where cowed or lazy, I have no idea how it work inside SoE office)
I'll agree to take your word for it since I did not purchase the retail version of COH. I beta'd it and found out I wouldn't like it during beta so I never bought it. Since I haven't seen their expansions I'll agree to dissagree.
But I will say this: Vellious was a lot more than just a 'bunch of dragons re-skinned a bunch of times' two additional planes, 20 other zones, gazillions of quests as well as dozens of new skills spells and items were added with Vellious. *you* may not have played most of it but I explored the entire continent and played in every zone. It was a very very big expansion whether you want to admit it or not and whether you used it or not. Lots of other players did.
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Originally posted by pistolier Kishe you are so stuck in a fantasy world that when some one says something real it is to good to be true. by the way there are very few girls that would actually like a twelve inche shlong and who do you think pays for this site to keep it up and running?
You might want to put some of that 146 IQ to work and add some punctuation and grammar to your posts, bucko.
On topic, MMOs are certainly less expensive than other games in my case. Fifteen bucks a month is a heck of a lot cheaper than the 40+ dollars I spend every 3-4 weeks on new games when I'm not playing an MMO.
I just posted a topic to see if it would get anybodies interest. As far as the post goes i am very satisfied with the result. If i was serious about the post,which i am not, i would have written the tittle as, *Are MMOGs too expensive*, bucko.
Originally posted by pistolier I just posted a topic to see if it would get anybodies interest. As far as the post goes i am very satisfied with the result. If i was serious about the post,which i am not, i would have written the tittle as, *Are MMOGs too expensive*, bucko.
You would have written the 'tittle'? So what you are saying is that INTENTIONALLY used bad grammar in the title of your post simply because you weren't serious? I swear, some people crack me up.
By the way, I'm only being harsh because you decided to go out of your way to post your IQ and how much you could bench (??) as if to show your superiority to others here, but despite your mighty intellect, you can't manage to write worth a crap.
Originally posted by pistolier who in their right mind would pay fifteen dollars a month just to play an mmo for a couple of months shit i buy games for less than fifteen dollars
Dear Sir, you seemed to have missed the point, i posted my personal 'talents' to prove to a snob that regardless of what i can do and regardless of what i know i don't rub it in some ones face and call himher an idiot just because i am better at something than heshe is. On a happier note i am glad that you are amused by all this because that infact, was the point of this topic and to see how many would be interested in it.
I am sure this will boost your ego, you are right, my grammer does need work but unfortunatly i am to old to redo high school. cheers,
Actually very few MMORPG's don't... but the number is increasing.
I think EVE, Horizons and LineageII are the only ones that don't charge for major updates at this point, are there other major MMO's that don't charge? And WOW hasn't had an update yet so the jury is still out there (no, PVP doesn't count, that was added free because it was supposed to be in at release)
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Going to half add COH to that list rember COV is a seperate game.
Originally posted by pistolier Dear Sir, you seemed to have missed the point, i posted my personal 'talents' to prove to a snob that regardless of what i can do and regardless of what i know i don't rub it in some ones face and call himher an idiot just because i am better at something than heshe is. On a happier note i am glad that you are amused by all this because that infact, was the point of this topic and to see how many would be interested in it. I am sure this will boost your ego, you are right, my grammer does need work but unfortunatly i am to old to redo high school. cheers, p.s I am indeed a cad.....
I still dont understand why someone so talented couldnt afford 15$ a month?
Originally posted by pistolierabsolutly incredible looks like people took quite a shine to my topictalk about attacks on personality and stuff and stuff. well to one person that thinks of me as an online buffoon get a life man, the problems with mmorpgs is, ok they are great fun, that they take up to much time and economically it is not really worth it because how much profit do they make ever think about that and then how about all the time you spending sitting infront of your screen turning into a mindless zombie, huhuhuhuh :::: and for Dekoth first of all they are not your games, they belong to anyone who wants to have a good time playing themi have an iq of a 146 and can bench press 110 kilos you think that makes anyone else less of a person than i am you really need to change your attitude.
Originally posted by pistolier Dear Sir, you seemed to have missed the point, i posted my personal 'talents' to prove to a snob that regardless of what i can do and regardless of what i know i don't rub it in some ones face and call himher an idiot just because i am better at something than heshe is. On a happier note i am glad that you are amused by all this because that infact, was the point of this topic and to see how many would be interested in it. I am sure this will boost your ego, you are right, my grammer does need work but unfortunatly i am to old to redo high school. cheers, p.s I am indeed a cad.....
If you percieved my post as calling you an idiot then apparently you percieved that you infact met one of the conditions I specified. In case you failed to notice ( you did ) I put a conditional on that idiot comment, but apparently that was over your head.
As for your Talents, Your point? this is the internet anyone can be anything. To be honest I could care less what you do in reality nor do I believe any of it, just as you should doubt anyone else. Suffice to say I am hardly impressed. i based my comments purly on the post and its merits, and if you have the IQ you claim you have, then you can clearly see why my post is spot on accurate on the merits or the lack thereof on that post. As for me being a snob, Never once have I ever denied that. I am a snob, as a matter of fact I am an asshole and wont deny it, I will quite happily snub people I deem as inferior gamers. People who whine about petty things tend to get on that list the quickest simply because its usually the players who suck that whine the most. You may or may not fall into that catergory, I honestly do not care either way, your post did and that is precisely what I targeted. As far as Assumptions are concerned the fact that you read that deep into the post I made on a conditional comment I have to assume that I was in fact right.
Defend yourself if you like, I personally do not care. As far as I am concerned you already labeled yourself through your own written word. You could have easily constructed a post that refuted the comments, and proven them false assumptions. As they were just that assumptions, but alas you failed the litmus test.
Have a nice Day!
Oh as an FYI, the retracting statement that the post was all a joke is about the oldest and weakest comeback to a post that has been proven beyond all doubt to be retarded. Honestly that was a really pathetic attempt, nevermind the fact that is was completely transparent.
Originally posted by pistolier Dear Sir, you seemed to have missed the point, i posted my personal 'talents' to prove to a snob that regardless of what i can do and regardless of what i know i don't rub it in some ones face and call himher an idiot just because i am better at something than heshe is. On a happier note i am glad that you are amused by all this because that infact, was the point of this topic and to see how many would be interested in it. I am sure this will boost your ego, you are right, my grammer does need work but unfortunatly i am to old to redo high school. cheers, p.s I am indeed a cad.....
Well, let me say that I owe you an apology if you are indeed from India like your profile states. You did not mention anything of the sort before, and I did not bother to look. If that is indeed the case, it was wrong of me to crack on your grammar, as English is most likely not your first language (just guessing). I apologize.
this is why the rest of the world hates americans. if your profile is right then you are a 26 year old gamer that my friend is messed up you should go out get drunk and get laid or just do something else than *try* to be an internet bully. but i guess that is the only place you feel safe from the rest of us real, frightening people, i mean what happened man, did someone do some great injustice to you in high school? in any case get a real life, a wife wouldn't hurt to but oh i'm sorry women are inferior.....
Originally posted by pistolier this is why the rest of the world hates americans. if your profile is right then you are a 26 year old gamer that my friend is messed up you should go out get drunk and get laid or just do something else than *try* to be an internet bully. but i guess that is the only place you feel safe from the rest of us real, frightening people, i mean what happened man, did someone do some great injustice to you in high school? in any case get a real life, a wife wouldn't hurt to but oh i'm sorry women are inferior..... peace sucka. V.
Um... please don't over generalize 1) Nothing wrong with being a gamer at 26, or any other age for that matter. 2) Being a gamer does not preclude having a real life 3) Being a gamer does not preclude being married or even having a family
How do I know? Well personally I'm 38 and am a gamer. Have been happily married for 5 years and have 3 wonderful kids who I enjoy playing with every day when they're awake. My wife and I have a great relationship even though she loathes online computer games.
Relationally several people in my business place are gamers. All of them are married and have successful relationships and several have kids as well. My PA in SWG consists of about 80% adults over the age of 30 with wives (some of them are lucky as hell and have wives who also play with them) and kids.
And, I would submit that your suggestion to: "Go get drunk and get laid" is a lot less healthy than hopping on a computer game and blowing off steam in an environment where you can't actually harm anyone.
But I agree, being an internet Bully is silly. I'd suggest you not hurl insults either since you seem to be against it.
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Originally posted by pistolier this is why the rest of the world hates americans. if your profile is right then you are a 26 year old gamer that my friend is messed up you should go out get drunk and get laid or just do something else than *try* to be an internet bully. but i guess that is the only place you feel safe from the rest of us real, frightening people, i mean what happened man, did someone do some great injustice to you in high school? in any case get a real life, a wife wouldn't hurt to but oh i'm sorry women are inferior..... peace sucka. V.
Making quite a few assumptions there, aren't we? I take back the apology I made in the previous post--you don't deserve it. And don't EVER email me again.
and this is why people love americans, you never know what you get. absolutely wonderful!!!!!! but when it comes to indians, we're a whole lot more freaky than one would know. don't you just love the people of the world alll the combinations and variations, oh and by the way i am one of those extremely positive people so truely, this is all in good fun., and elnator congrats on those kids. and wife of course at least you got to choose one.
Originally posted by pistolier and this is why people love americans, you never know what you get. absolutely wonderful!!!!!! but when it comes to indians, we're a whole lot more freaky than one would know. don't you just love the people of the world alll the combinations and variations, oh and by the way i am one of those extremely positive people so truely, this is all in good fun., and elnator congrats on those kids. and wife of course at least you got to choose one.
Oh don't worry India's culture will eventually change and pre-arranged marriages will fall into obscurity... it's only a matter of time We used to have arranged marriages here, and in Europe, too
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I don't think anyone is saying you should spend 24/7 in front of the computer. People should do what they want to do.
But your "economic" point is false. Again, as I pointed out, even moderate playtime of 2 hours a day adds up to $0.25 PER DAY for a $15 monthly subscription. If you play very little, let's say an hour a day, your per day cost is still only $0.50. It's really remarkably cheap compared to virtually anything else ... it's the cost of a newspaper. So I think your economics point is wrong. There are dumb wastes of money in the world (Starbucks for example ... I just don't understand why folks spend $4 on a cup of coffee ...), but MMORPGs are one of the great bargains in life.
I was not the one comparing them there genius. Someone else brought up their expansions as compared to EQ and, as you'll notice, I said I couldn't since I only played COH in beta. I chose not to buy it because in beta I didn't like it.
Duh.
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Um, excuse me? Have you ever even played Lineage I or Lineage II? Have you ever even read anything about their expansions? Both Lineage titles add an expansion about every 6 months which is the same size as the average expansion pack. Each expansion adds A LOT of new land, new towns, new items, and maybe even a new race. I've played Lineage I for 6 years and Lineage II for 3 years. I know the game and I know the expansions they give. They aren't "constant updates that you get in EQ or SWG or whatever." You're completely wrong.
Sorry? Yes, I've played Lineage II, not lineage. I got the first 'expansion' before I left Lineage II and wasn't all that impressed with it and left shortly thereafter because they didn't address any of the issues that were causing me not to like the game. If they've improved in quality then I stand corrected
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MMO's are too expensive they should all be free! And the river by our town should be pure chocolate milk! And it should rain beer! And Angelina Jolie should realize what a loser Brad Pitt is and pick me up in a helicopter! And girls should stop wearing clothes, they interfere with my line of vision!
Get a job
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You buy a game for 15$ what only once a month? Gimme a break, I bet you spend more money buying games that can be finished in 10-40 hours and buy a new one all the time.
I'd rather play a MMORPG non-stop, only pay 15$ a month and that's it. What people don't understand is to STOP buying games once you get into a MMORPG. MMORPGs are already time consumming enough, you don't have to buy every new hit game cause you'll probably never have time to finish it.
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Everyone in the game industry knows that subscription based MMORPG are money printing machines. Some people don't care about spending that much money for a game and game developpers know it. They will create that new game with those nice graphics and add some nice features to keep the players as long as they can. They will also add some elements to make you addicted to them.
In the end, they will just add enough features to make you stick with the game while paying for the less possible employees to maximize their profit. After all, what's good of a money printing machine if you cannot get the most of it ?
Err
Lets see
Since I started playing MMORPG's I have spent less money on video games which, in the end, has saved me money. The monthly fee is necessary since MMO's have to pay for various recurring/ongoing costs and since it's low enough that I don't feel a bite from it it's actually saving me money to play an MMO in the long run because single player games these days last barely 2 weeks. two single player games a month is about $100 right now. My SOE All Access Pass is $21.95 a month. Since moving to MMO's I almost NEVER buy games anymore. Typically I get one or two at Christmas and Birthday from family or from spending cash I was given for my birthday (IE: Free) and maybe one when the tax return hits.
Do the math over the course of a year and figure out how much I'm saving
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no i really dont think that there to expensive
Kishe you are so stuck in a fantasy world that when some one says something real it is to good to be true.
by the way there are very few girls that would actually like a twelve inche shlong
and who do you think pays for this site to keep it up and running?
(I didnt quote the most recents answers on purpose)
CoH Issue 1, from a player point of view about amount of stuff to do, motivation to play, new stuff to see, outmatch Velious(and Ykesha as well). Let's say you disagree, Issue 1 + 4 certainly does, and the 4 of them certainly outmatch any EQ expension.
Which simply prove my point that CoH break that rule about your simple line saying nothing free was of the scale of paid expensions. CoH is powered by Cryptic and they may be from another world with superior ideas, brains & ideas however!
1 exception dront break a rule, but it certainly make a few breachs in it.
Bark as much as you want, this sentence of yours is wrong from a player point of view. I play more on stuff they add in Issue 1 then I play on 50% of the expensions they did in EQ, all while I was subscribed.
PS: I still think that on average, an EQ expension is usually more content filled then any expension I see by competitors...on average, and Velious or Ykesha did extremely poorly (re-skin 1 dragon 20 times can call it an expension? LOL). But CoH is on the same scale from a player point of view(amount of hours of working dont matter, what matter is always from the player point of view) and often beat EQ here and there on some expensions...and CoH will have 2 or 3 times more expensions then a SoE product of the same age will have, which completely leave a SoE product behind, outnumbered...if it took Cryptic less work to achieve better result, all the better for them! (Cryptic prolly have more designers on the project, and SoE prolly took a brash ''programming'' approach with only a skeletal designers crew, but this is purely assuming, maybe those designers where cowed or lazy, I have no idea how it work inside SoE office)
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I'll agree to take your word for it since I did not purchase the retail version of COH. I beta'd it and found out I wouldn't like it during beta so I never bought it. Since I haven't seen their expansions I'll agree to dissagree.
But I will say this: Vellious was a lot more than just a 'bunch of dragons re-skinned a bunch of times' two additional planes, 20 other zones, gazillions of quests as well as dozens of new skills spells and items were added with Vellious. *you* may not have played most of it but I explored the entire continent and played in every zone. It was a very very big expansion whether you want to admit it or not and whether you used it or not. Lots of other players did.
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You might want to put some of that 146 IQ to work and add some punctuation and grammar to your posts, bucko.
On topic, MMOs are certainly less expensive than other games in my case. Fifteen bucks a month is a heck of a lot cheaper than the 40+ dollars I spend every 3-4 weeks on new games when I'm not playing an MMO.
You would have written the 'tittle'? So what you are saying is that INTENTIONALLY used bad grammar in the title of your post simply because you weren't serious? I swear, some people crack me up.
By the way, I'm only being harsh because you decided to go out of your way to post your IQ and how much you could bench (??) as if to show your superiority to others here, but despite your mighty intellect, you can't manage to write worth a crap.
Oh, but I forgot..you weren't being serious.
Dear Sir,
you seemed to have missed the point, i posted my personal 'talents' to prove to a snob that regardless of what i can do and regardless of what i know i don't rub it in some ones face and call himher an idiot just because i am better at something than heshe is. On a happier note i am glad that you are amused by all this because that infact, was the point of this topic and to see how many would be interested in it.
I am sure this will boost your ego, you are right, my grammer does need work but unfortunatly i am to old to redo high school.
cheers,
p.s
I am indeed a cad.....
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Actually very few MMORPG's don't... but the number is increasing.
I think EVE, Horizons and LineageII are the only ones that don't charge for major updates at this point, are there other major MMO's that don't charge? And WOW hasn't had an update yet so the jury is still out there (no, PVP doesn't count, that was added free because it was supposed to be in at release)
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Going to half add COH to that list rember COV is a seperate game.
I still dont understand why someone so talented couldnt afford 15$ a month?
and your grammar isn't bad, it's dyslexic.
If you percieved my post as calling you an idiot then apparently you percieved that you infact met one of the conditions I specified. In case you failed to notice ( you did ) I put a conditional on that idiot comment, but apparently that was over your head.
As for your Talents, Your point? this is the internet anyone can be anything. To be honest I could care less what you do in reality nor do I believe any of it, just as you should doubt anyone else. Suffice to say I am hardly impressed. i based my comments purly on the post and its merits, and if you have the IQ you claim you have, then you can clearly see why my post is spot on accurate on the merits or the lack thereof on that post. As for me being a snob, Never once have I ever denied that. I am a snob, as a matter of fact I am an asshole and wont deny it, I will quite happily snub people I deem as inferior gamers. People who whine about petty things tend to get on that list the quickest simply because its usually the players who suck that whine the most. You may or may not fall into that catergory, I honestly do not care either way, your post did and that is precisely what I targeted. As far as Assumptions are concerned the fact that you read that deep into the post I made on a conditional comment I have to assume that I was in fact right.
Defend yourself if you like, I personally do not care. As far as I am concerned you already labeled yourself through your own written word. You could have easily constructed a post that refuted the comments, and proven them false assumptions. As they were just that assumptions, but alas you failed the litmus test.
Have a nice Day!
Oh as an FYI, the retracting statement that the post was all a joke is about the oldest and weakest comeback to a post that has been proven beyond all doubt to be retarded. Honestly that was a really pathetic attempt, nevermind the fact that is was completely transparent.
this is why the rest of the world hates americans. if your profile is right then you are a 26 year old gamer that my friend is messed up you should go out get drunk and get laid or just do something else than *try* to be an internet bully. but i guess that is the only place you feel safe from the rest of us real, frightening people, i mean what happened man, did someone do some great injustice to you in high school? in any case get a real life, a wife wouldn't hurt to but oh i'm sorry women are inferior.....
peace sucka.
V.
Um... please don't over generalize
1) Nothing wrong with being a gamer at 26, or any other age for that matter.
2) Being a gamer does not preclude having a real life
3) Being a gamer does not preclude being married or even having a family
How do I know?
Well personally I'm 38 and am a gamer. Have been happily married for 5 years and have 3 wonderful kids who I enjoy playing with every day when they're awake. My wife and I have a great relationship even though she loathes online computer games.
Relationally several people in my business place are gamers. All of them are married and have successful relationships and several have kids as well. My PA in SWG consists of about 80% adults over the age of 30 with wives (some of them are lucky as hell and have wives who also play with them) and kids.
And, I would submit that your suggestion to: "Go get drunk and get laid" is a lot less healthy than hopping on a computer game and blowing off steam in an environment where you can't actually harm anyone.
But I agree, being an internet Bully is silly. I'd suggest you not hurl insults either since you seem to be against it.
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and this is why people love americans, you never know what you get. absolutely wonderful!!!!!!
, and elnator congrats on those kids. and wife of course at least you got to choose one.
but when it comes to indians, we're a whole lot more freaky than one would know. don't you just love the people of the world alll the combinations and variations, oh and by the way i am one of those extremely positive people so truely, this is all in good fun.
Oh don't worry
India's culture will eventually change and pre-arranged marriages will fall into obscurity... it's only a matter of time 
We used to have arranged marriages here, and in Europe, too 
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