well.. OSI was owned by EA from the START of ULTIMA ONLINE
And no UO would not have shut down if UO:R was not lauched uo would still have been the best game EVER , what was really needed was a new 3d engie (still ISO view) kinda like Nwn or so .. that would have made UO the best game out even today
You're all forgetting about the most hardcore UO population in history: the UO:R Siege Perilous population. Every major guild moved there post UO:R and imo it was the most fun to be had in UO at any point in time ever.
Originally posted by borgmanalpha I'd just like to say that Ultima Online is one big overhyped piece of crap and I'd rather play a real MMORPG any day like Phantasy Star Online:Blue Burst, Ragnarok Online, Maple Story, WoW, FFXI, Guild Wars or Fairyland than crap like this! Amongst my many reasons are that the levelling-up system is a pile of rubbish, practically everyone I've met come across as being soulless, heartless bastards who only care about themselves and the economy is a pile of shit as well! The games I've mentioned above may have their faults but at least they're good fun to play whereas this games doesn't deserve the reputation it had or still has!
Any bit of credibility you had (and you didn't have much judging by the name of the OP) was vaporized the moment you uttered the words "real MMORPG" and "Maple Story" in the same sentence. UO was kickin butt before ANYTHING else. Have a little respect for the Grandfather of the genre you are currently a fan of.
Originally posted by Tanked You know you have won an arguement over the internet when the opposition resorts to making ignorant, incoherrent and blatently bias invalid statements about you. I find it silly that there was even the need for a debate regarding this issue. Its a proven fact that uo:r was the demise of UO. Real UO, UO when it mattered. Post UO:r is for tellytubby loving carebears. kthxbyestfu.
Wanna know what the real demise of UO was? This may be a little hard to take but maybe you need to hear it.
What brought down UO was a percentage of the original UO players. Probably people like Tanked, maybe not:Ganking griefers who would kill new players over and over and would never get tired of it and probably thought they were gods gift to PvP because they could kill a soloing n00b in a robe with a skill of 14 in magic and like 4 in dagger.
Get it bud? You killed your own game, you assasinated it just like you assasinated soloing n00bies probably with your elite guild of n00b ganking PvP'ers. They then complained and got Trammel made for them. All you gankers and greifers and uber leet wannabes who post about the glory days of UO (I was there too, I just have honor and refuse to kill people with no skill) and whine about how Trammel ruined the game, YOU RUINED THE GAME!
Originally posted by borgmanalpha I'd just like to say that Ultima Online is one big overhyped piece of crap and I'd rather play a real MMORPG any day like Phantasy Star Online:Blue Burst, Ragnarok Online, Maple Story, WoW, FFXI, Guild Wars or Fairyland than crap like this! Amongst my many reasons are that the levelling-up system is a pile of rubbish, practically everyone I've met come across as being soulless, heartless bastards who only care about themselves and the economy is a pile of shit as well! The games I've mentioned above may have their faults but at least they're good fun to play whereas this games doesn't deserve the reputation it had or still has!
you got ganked didnt ya? it happens, i havnt played in sooooo long. i miss UO.
Originally posted by borgmanalpha I'd just like to say that Ultima Online is one big overhyped piece of crap and I'd rather play a real MMORPG any day like Phantasy Star Online:Blue Burst, Ragnarok Online, Maple Story, WoW, FFXI, Guild Wars or Fairyland than crap like this! Amongst my many reasons are that the levelling-up system is a pile of rubbish, practically everyone I've met come across as being soulless, heartless bastards who only care about themselves and the economy is a pile of shit as well! The games I've mentioned above may have their faults but at least they're good fun to play whereas this games doesn't deserve the reputation it had or still has!
WTF, you do know you are talking about one of the first MMOs. And what leveling up are you talking about? It is the only game out there with no levels AT ALL.
ive played all the original ultimas and played uo all were great games in their time
today the rpg is dead the reason 3d graphics to make a master piece 3d rpg it seems takes too much time and to this date noone is willing to take the beast of burden on
the ones that are willing to do so either have no idea what a rpg is or in the process have tried to reinvent the wheel and in the process have lost what an rpg is suppose to be
the original uo was a master piece untill the hackers ruined it
if you hack the games you are responsable for the demise of rpg games
by the time i was soloing the elementals in the dungeons with my mage I had had enough of the hackers with their cheat codes and threw the towel in
ive played other rpgs since none have surpassed the original uo in game play none have ever even come close to it
eq crap
asherons call crap
and now companies are touting their next games supposedly 3rd generation games that will advance the rpg to the next level
hope they studied uo to no end because it was the best game ever
untill people started to steal houses with cheat codes and sell them on ebay
untill then it was a great game to play
to bad it is gone
when will a rpg come out that surpasses it hopefully soon
Originally posted by borgmanalpha I'd just like to say that Ultima Online is one big overhyped piece of crap and I'd rather play a real MMORPG any day like Phantasy Star Online:Blue Burst, Ragnarok Online, Maple Story, WoW, FFXI, Guild Wars or Fairyland than crap like this! Amongst my many reasons are that the levelling-up system is a pile of rubbish, practically everyone I've met come across as being soulless, heartless bastards who only care about themselves and the economy is a pile of shit as well! The games I've mentioned above may have their faults but at least they're good fun to play whereas this games doesn't deserve the reputation it had or still has!
It is not like that i think. Still UO have one of the best gameplays from all mmog's. Problem is in extremly old graphics engine. Developers shoud reconsider what to do with tkat position long time ago... Really strange think is most users still using 2d engine in uo - but they have 3d engine as optional... I think just becouse 2d is just much faster in this game.
And if im not wrong that game was first graphical mmog
Just for your knowledge, all those games you said sucks. There are just a FEW real GOOD mmorpgs, which you have to find out yourself. But trust me, it depend on the person and its for sure wont be that many games. For me there were two perfect games for a period. Dransik & Tibia. And yes Ultima Online sucks, for me atleast.
What brought down UO was a percentage of the original UO players. Probably people like Tanked, maybe not:Ganking griefers who would kill new players over and over and would never get tired of it and probably thought they were gods gift to PvP because they could kill a soloing n00b in a robe with a skill of 14 in magic and like 4 in dagger.
Get it bud? You killed your own game, you assasinated it just like you assasinated soloing n00bies probably with your elite guild of n00b ganking PvP'ers. They then complained and got Trammel made for them. All you gankers and greifers and uber leet wannabes who post about the glory days of UO (I was there too, I just have honor and refuse to kill people with no skill) and whine about how Trammel ruined the game, YOU RUINED THE GAME!
I'm sorry. Through all of my ganking noobs and such I must have forgotten what a skill level of 4 in daggers was. Could you please enlighten me?
No. The term "griefers" is just another way to label someone who is better then you. You both spend the same amount of time playing, its just one person has the natural ability to overcome the other. It is perfectly logical to want to find an excuse for why you have failed to compete against other players. No one wants to accept the fact that the reason they are incompetant is THEMSELVES, and nothing else. Thus the reason the over exhausted term "griefers" was developed.
The game wasnt ruined because of gankers. The game was ruined due to the money hoarding staff at EA. Their expansions were brilliant in a money sense (obvious when looking at the numbers of players versus pre expansions). Yet the later expansions were a direct slap in the face to all of the loyal fans pre :uor. Out with the old and in with the new, you could say. Out with exhillerating pvp system where no one was safe, and just walking out of town was a risk. In with the new monotonous and patheticaly unreal carebear land so people can swing a pick axe at a cave in peace and harmony.
I wasnt a griefer, I was a real UO player. When it actually mattered.
Originally posted by Ceara ive played all the original ultimas and played uo all were great games in their time the original uo was a master piece untill the hackers ruined it if you hack the games you are responsable for the demise of rpg games by the time i was soloing the elementals in the dungeons with my mage I had had enough of the hackers with their cheat codes and threw the towel in
Um hacks? The only "hacks" that I could even consider to be a cheat was speedhack. But using speedhack was so obvious and detectable it was 100% guarenteed you would be banned the next couple days. Other then that I guess third party programs like EZ macro? They gave you no unfair advantage. Just took out the tedious parts of the game.
Sorry my friend, UO had little to no hacks at all. Its what we gamers like to call "skill". Look into it.
I read how alot of people bitch about AoS ruined the game and stuff but I dont think it did at all. To me it just brougt more trammies into felluca to do champ/harrowers and for my guild to PK. The reason alot of people left was because newer games came out with better graphics and stuff but I tried many MMORPGs out there and there is no game that can even compete with UO's pvp. Im still playing UO everyday and having tons of fun. Peace
Wanna know what the real demise of UO was? This may be a little hard to take but maybe you need to hear it. What brought down UO was a percentage of the original UO players. Probably people like Tanked, maybe not:Ganking griefers who would kill new players over and over and would never get tired of it and probably thought they were gods gift to PvP because they could kill a soloing n00b in a robe with a skill of 14 in magic and like 4 in dagger. Get it bud? You killed your own game, you assasinated it just like you assasinated soloing n00bies probably with your elite guild of n00b ganking PvP'ers. They then complained and got Trammel made for them. All you gankers and greifers and uber leet wannabes who post about the glory days of UO (I was there too, I just have honor and refuse to kill people with no skill) and whine about how Trammel ruined the game, YOU RUINED THE GAME![/b][/quote]
Originally posted by Ceara ive played all the original ultimas and played uo all were great games in their time the original uo was a master piece untill the hackers ruined it if you hack the games you are responsable for the demise of rpg games by the time i was soloing the elementals in the dungeons with my mage I had had enough of the hackers with their cheat codes and threw the towel in
Um hacks? The only "hacks" that I could even consider to be a cheat was speedhack. But using speedhack was so obvious and detectable it was 100% guarenteed you would be banned the next couple days. Other then that I guess third party programs like EZ macro? They gave you no unfair advantage. Just took out the tedious parts of the game.
Sorry my friend, UO had little to no hacks at all. Its what we gamers like to call "skill". Look into it.
Are you kidding me? UO had little to no hacks? Forget it man. Back in the day when there was only a fame system and karma was still a sparkle in the eye of OSI, it was filled with numerous exploits (bugs perhaps??) eg. You would see a few Glorious Lords (its what they were called at the time) casting wall of flame (I forgot what the spell names are called) on an innocent newbie, killing him and looting repeatedly. The exploit was that the Glorious Lord was able to PK without losing fame. We called them Blue PK's. This was a newbies worst nightmare. Typical PKs were dread lords easily identified by their red highlight which newbies knew to watch out for. But the Blue PK's were unsuspecting. For a time, wall of flame was the spell of the month of course.
Other exploits I experienced first hand:
Duping gold across server boundries. At one time, it was possible to stand just next to a server boundry, take gold from your pack and drop it on the opposite side of the server boundry. Interesting, the gold was dropped but it also did not leave your pack... duped. How do you think some players acquired 3 or 4 castles in a few evenings (it was possible to own more than one house back in the day).
Break In and Entering. That was easy, step up to the unsuspecting locked house door, make sure you have the view through walls option set, cast gate into the interior of the house and you're in. Loot galore. I was running a two week burglarly binge with a guildmate. I was caught in the act and actually put in jail by a GM for a few days.
Remember UOE (UO Extreme)? UOE allowed you to open your bank box anywhere in the world. How handy is that when you're hunting Balrons at the bottom of Hythloth? Or just after killing and looting an opposing player.
There were tons more my friend. Those were the early and crazy days. I must say, the best MMO gaming experience of my life. Well it was my first MMO experience and that's probably why I think its the best MMO experience.
There is quite a large difference between an ingame exploit and a hack. Hacks are generally percieved as illegal third partie programs used outside of the existing client to give you an unfair advantage. Examples would be the "trainers" for diablo, Aimbot wallhack and speedhack for Counterstrike, and of course speedhack for UO.
No one was debating the existance of exploits. Some of my best experiences in UO came from exploits ranging from scams on castle deeds to easy gains with difficult skills.
UOE wasnt a hack, silly man.
In no way shape or form did exploits contribute to a "downfall" in UO.
what killed the game for me is the expansions after uor. i played pretram for 3 weeks. but i remember when a large tower was 250k my gf still misses her tower lol. if they just over hauled the games graphics people would come back would still be the best game system out there in my opinion.
now you can make your own home design which is cool i like that. but insurance and all that crap that makes the game to unkind to pks sucks damn ea. lol
You have my sincere apology. I was interpretting 'hacks' as both in game exploits and hacks in general.
UOE was an illegal third party client (in the eyes of OSI) that gave users an unfair advantage. Example, UOE gave the player the ablity to open the bank box from anywhere in the UO world. Players without UOE were not able to open their bank from anywhere in the UO world.
Um hacks? The only "hacks" that I could even consider to be a cheat was speedhack. But using speedhack was so obvious and detectable it was 100% guarenteed you would be banned the next couple days. Other then that I guess third party programs like EZ macro? They gave you no unfair advantage. Just took out the tedious parts of the game. Sorry my friend, UO had little to no hacks at all. Its what we gamers like to call "skill". Look into it.
ok right there you proved yourself dumb. There was a program UOE. Bank anywhere in the world along with a ton of of other hacks. Latter uoa was sold that was a watered down version of that hack.
To me trammel was the last straw, But i grew up in the game a little before t2a released. I was killed looted laughed at picked on everything horrible you can imagine was done to me. It made learn to fight for what was mine. To be cautious when outside town on any player. The dreaded words corp por seen a screen away made me recoil in fear. It was the golden age a wounderful game and one i miss dearly. No game gave me feelings like that again. Was it an easy game? No, it was a game of struggle and eventual triumph. At least for me. Also almost all major pvp clans have a uo back ground ever wounder why ???
I would argue that the first years that led up to AoS rocked. Since AoS it has gone down hill. After ML comes out it will truely just suck. I didn't like the systems in WoW that they are about to put into UO. There is no way I am going to like them any better in UO.
Its sad that they decided to destroy the game because they decided it should copy WoW because they want to get their players back from WoW then they copied the most pathetic parts of WoW. They needed to realise that if the current players wanted to play something this close to WoW they would simply play WoW.
Please don't lump Pre:R and Pre:Pub16 together. There is like 1 year between them. IMO, that was the best year ever in UO and LBR was the best expansion ever. After LBR it all went down hill and before R the game was a rediculous pker campfest that no one ever started playing if they knew what the game was truely all about.
What new expansion? UO:ML? You must be kidding me. Good things? Lol. There is not a trace of UO content in UO:ML. Its a complete copy of WoW. All the new content is from WoW. Every single bit of it. If you think this is a good thing then you obviously never played pre:AoS either. This is the final death of every last part of what UO was all about in the days it was actually UO.
Simple Item System (died with AoS) Customizable Player Templates (died with P16) Unique Housing System (died with DAoC Foundations which did housing much better than UO) Experience/Skill Means Something (died with P16 and AoS...now you just throw on jewlery) Solo Play is the Norm (Got sick with P16 and AoS...will DIE with ML) Risk vs Reward (died with ganker guilds thanks to P16) Easy to get started (died with P16) Enjoyable (slowly stripped away starting with P16 and hammered on every patch since)
Don't forget the greatest UO Hack of all time...UO Assist. UO Assist has a very checkerd past but once upon a time it was not allowed for use by EA. EA would ban people caught using UO Assist. They later made a deal with the devil after they realised everyone was using it anyways and allowed them to sell a license for it and I bet that part of that $15 is a kickback to EA. EA has never done right by the player base and has always only worried about the bottom line.
They will not overhaul the graphics and they are slowly eroding (bit by bit) with every new expansion the best system that ever existed for a MMORPG. I remember when you used to grab and item and use your identify wand on it and see if it was good. You might get one item to drop from a monster and that item had to be ided. Now looting is a chore because by the time you can actually add up all those properties you are already having to kill another spawn. Its sad when you can't keep up with killing spawn and looting as well.
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well.. OSI was owned by EA from the START of ULTIMA ONLINE
And no UO would not have shut down if UO:R was not lauched uo would still
have been the best game EVER , what was really needed was a new 3d engie (still ISO view) kinda like
Nwn or so .. that would have made UO the best game out even today
Ultima Online Active Subscription Figures:
UO: At launch - 50,000 Highest - 90,000 Lowest - 50,000
UO:T2A: At launch - 95,000 Highest - 175,000 Lowest - 95,000
UO:R: At launch - 185,000 Highest - 230,000 Lowest - 185,000
UO:3D: At launch - 235,000 Highest - 240,000 Lowest - 225,000
UO:LBR: At launch - 225,000 Highest - 225,000 Lowest - 208,000
UO:AoS: At launch - 230,000 Highest - 250,000 Lowest - 169,000
UO:SE: At launch - 171,000 Highest - 171,000 Lowest - 157,000
As of March 2005 - 157,000
While AoS has the highest subscription, it also suffers the most severe flop from 250k down to 169k.
Wanna know what the real demise of UO was? This may be a little hard to take but maybe you need to hear it.
What brought down UO was a percentage of the original UO players. Probably people like Tanked, maybe not:Ganking griefers who would kill new players over and over and would never get tired of it and probably thought they were gods gift to PvP because they could kill a soloing n00b in a robe with a skill of 14 in magic and like 4 in dagger.
Get it bud? You killed your own game, you assasinated it just like you assasinated soloing n00bies probably with your elite guild of n00b ganking PvP'ers. They then complained and got Trammel made for them. All you gankers and greifers and uber leet wannabes who post about the glory days of UO (I was there too, I just have honor and refuse to kill people with no skill) and whine about how Trammel ruined the game, YOU RUINED THE GAME!
you got ganked didnt ya? it happens, i havnt played in sooooo long. i miss UO.
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ive played all the original ultimas and played uo all were great games in their time
today the rpg is dead the reason 3d graphics to make a master piece 3d rpg it seems takes too much time and to this date noone is willing to take the beast of burden on
the ones that are willing to do so either have no idea what a rpg is or in the process have tried to reinvent the wheel and in the process have lost what an rpg is suppose to be
the original uo was a master piece untill the hackers ruined it
if you hack the games you are responsable for the demise of rpg games
by the time i was soloing the elementals in the dungeons with my mage I had had enough of the hackers with their cheat codes and threw the towel in
ive played other rpgs since none have surpassed the original uo in game play none have ever even come close to it
eq crap
asherons call crap
and now companies are touting their next games supposedly 3rd generation games that will advance the rpg to the next level
hope they studied uo to no end because it was the best game ever
untill people started to steal houses with cheat codes and sell them on ebay
untill then it was a great game to play
to bad it is gone
when will a rpg come out that surpasses it hopefully soon
what is out there now is sickening
It is not like that i think.
Still UO have one of the best gameplays from all mmog's.
Problem is in extremly old graphics engine.
Developers shoud reconsider what to do with tkat position long time ago...
Really strange think is most users still using 2d engine in uo - but they have 3d engine as optional...
I think just becouse 2d is just much faster in this game.
And if im not wrong that game was first graphical mmog
Just for your knowledge, all those games you said sucks. There are just a FEW real GOOD mmorpgs, which you have to find out yourself. But trust me, it depend on the person and its for sure wont be that many games. For me there were two perfect games for a period. Dransik & Tibia. And yes Ultima Online sucks, for me atleast.
I'm sorry. Through all of my ganking noobs and such I must have forgotten what a skill level of 4 in daggers was. Could you please enlighten me?
No. The term "griefers" is just another way to label someone who is better then you. You both spend the same amount of time playing, its just one person has the natural ability to overcome the other. It is perfectly logical to want to find an excuse for why you have failed to compete against other players. No one wants to accept the fact that the reason they are incompetant is THEMSELVES, and nothing else. Thus the reason the over exhausted term "griefers" was developed.
The game wasnt ruined because of gankers. The game was ruined due to the money hoarding staff at EA. Their expansions were brilliant in a money sense (obvious when looking at the numbers of players versus pre expansions). Yet the later expansions were a direct slap in the face to all of the loyal fans pre :uor. Out with the old and in with the new, you could say. Out with exhillerating pvp system where no one was safe, and just walking out of town was a risk. In with the new monotonous and patheticaly unreal carebear land so people can swing a pick axe at a cave in peace and harmony.
I wasnt a griefer, I was a real UO player. When it actually mattered.
kthxbye.
Um hacks? The only "hacks" that I could even consider to be a cheat was speedhack. But using speedhack was so obvious and detectable it was 100% guarenteed you would be banned the next couple days. Other then that I guess third party programs like EZ macro? They gave you no unfair advantage. Just took out the tedious parts of the game.
Sorry my friend, UO had little to no hacks at all. Its what we gamers like to call "skill". Look into it.
[quote]Originally posted by anarchyart
Wanna know what the real demise of UO was? This may be a little hard to take but maybe you need to hear it.
What brought down UO was a percentage of the original UO players. Probably people like Tanked, maybe not:Ganking griefers who would kill new players over and over and would never get tired of it and probably thought they were gods gift to PvP because they could kill a soloing n00b in a robe with a skill of 14 in magic and like 4 in dagger.
Get it bud? You killed your own game, you assasinated it just like you assasinated soloing n00bies probably with your elite guild of n00b ganking PvP'ers. They then complained and got Trammel made for them. All you gankers and greifers and uber leet wannabes who post about the glory days of UO (I was there too, I just have honor and refuse to kill people with no skill) and whine about how Trammel ruined the game, YOU RUINED THE GAME![/b][/quote]
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Um hacks? The only "hacks" that I could even consider to be a cheat was speedhack. But using speedhack was so obvious and detectable it was 100% guarenteed you would be banned the next couple days. Other then that I guess third party programs like EZ macro? They gave you no unfair advantage. Just took out the tedious parts of the game.
Sorry my friend, UO had little to no hacks at all. Its what we gamers like to call "skill". Look into it.
Are you kidding me? UO had little to no hacks? Forget it man. Back in the day when there was only a fame system and karma was still a sparkle in the eye of OSI, it was filled with numerous exploits (bugs perhaps??) eg. You would see a few Glorious Lords (its what they were called at the time) casting wall of flame (I forgot what the spell names are called) on an innocent newbie, killing him and looting repeatedly. The exploit was that the Glorious Lord was able to PK without losing fame. We called them Blue PK's. This was a newbies worst nightmare. Typical PKs were dread lords easily identified by their red highlight which newbies knew to watch out for. But the Blue PK's were unsuspecting. For a time, wall of flame was the spell of the month of course.
Other exploits I experienced first hand:
Duping gold across server boundries. At one time, it was possible to stand just next to a server boundry, take gold from your pack and drop it on the opposite side of the server boundry. Interesting, the gold was dropped but it also did not leave your pack... duped. How do you think some players acquired 3 or 4 castles in a few evenings (it was possible to own more than one house back in the day).
Break In and Entering. That was easy, step up to the unsuspecting locked house door, make sure you have the view through walls option set, cast gate into the interior of the house and you're in. Loot galore. I was running a two week burglarly binge with a guildmate. I was caught in the act and actually put in jail by a GM for a few days.
Remember UOE (UO Extreme)? UOE allowed you to open your bank box anywhere in the world. How handy is that when you're hunting Balrons at the bottom of Hythloth? Or just after killing and looting an opposing player.
There were tons more my friend. Those were the early and crazy days. I must say, the best MMO gaming experience of my life. Well it was my first MMO experience and that's probably why I think its the best MMO experience.
JB
Are you kidding me?
There is quite a large difference between an ingame exploit and a hack. Hacks are generally percieved as illegal third partie programs used outside of the existing client to give you an unfair advantage. Examples would be the "trainers" for diablo, Aimbot wallhack and speedhack for Counterstrike, and of course speedhack for UO.
No one was debating the existance of exploits. Some of my best experiences in UO came from exploits ranging from scams on castle deeds to easy gains with difficult skills.
UOE wasnt a hack, silly man.
In no way shape or form did exploits contribute to a "downfall" in UO.
"Forget it man"? Comprehend it man.
what killed the game for me is the expansions after uor. i played pretram for 3 weeks. but i remember when a large tower was 250k my gf still misses her tower lol. if they just over hauled the games graphics people would come back would still be the best game system out there in my opinion.
now you can make your own home design which is cool i like that. but insurance and all that crap that makes the game to unkind to pks sucks damn ea. lol
You have my sincere apology. I was interpretting 'hacks' as both in game exploits and hacks in general.
UOE was an illegal third party client (in the eyes of OSI) that gave users an unfair advantage. Example, UOE gave the player the ablity to open the bank box from anywhere in the UO world. Players without UOE were not able to open their bank from anywhere in the UO world.
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I would argue that the first years that led up to AoS rocked. Since AoS it has gone down hill. After ML comes out it will truely just suck. I didn't like the systems in WoW that they are about to put into UO. There is no way I am going to like them any better in UO.
Its sad that they decided to destroy the game because they decided it should copy WoW because they want to get their players back from WoW then they copied the most pathetic parts of WoW. They needed to realise that if the current players wanted to play something this close to WoW they would simply play WoW.
Please don't lump Pre:R and Pre:Pub16 together. There is like 1 year between them. IMO, that was the best year ever in UO and LBR was the best expansion ever. After LBR it all went down hill and before R the game was a rediculous pker campfest that no one ever started playing if they knew what the game was truely all about.
What new expansion? UO:ML? You must be kidding me. Good things? Lol. There is not a trace of UO content in UO:ML. Its a complete copy of WoW. All the new content is from WoW. Every single bit of it. If you think this is a good thing then you obviously never played pre:AoS either. This is the final death of every last part of what UO was all about in the days it was actually UO.
Simple Item System (died with AoS)
Customizable Player Templates (died with P16)
Unique Housing System (died with DAoC Foundations which did housing much better than UO)
Experience/Skill Means Something (died with P16 and AoS...now you just throw on jewlery)
Solo Play is the Norm (Got sick with P16 and AoS...will DIE with ML)
Risk vs Reward (died with ganker guilds thanks to P16)
Easy to get started (died with P16)
Enjoyable (slowly stripped away starting with P16 and hammered on every patch since)
Needless to say there is no UO left in UO.
Don't forget the greatest UO Hack of all time...UO Assist. UO Assist has a very checkerd past but once upon a time it was not allowed for use by EA. EA would ban people caught using UO Assist. They later made a deal with the devil after they realised everyone was using it anyways and allowed them to sell a license for it and I bet that part of that $15 is a kickback to EA. EA has never done right by the player base and has always only worried about the bottom line.
They will not overhaul the graphics and they are slowly eroding (bit by bit) with every new expansion the best system that ever existed for a MMORPG. I remember when you used to grab and item and use your identify wand on it and see if it was good. You might get one item to drop from a monster and that item had to be ided. Now looting is a chore because by the time you can actually add up all those properties you are already having to kill another spawn. Its sad when you can't keep up with killing spawn and looting as well.