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GW2 & D3 playing release date chicken with each other......?
bmw66
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Got to wonder who is gonna bend first. I for one will buy both but there may be others who cant and can only buy one.
I wonder deep down if they are sort of waiting to see who drops the date first. Releasing close to each other cant be good for business.
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While I'm sure that Guild Wars 2 will sell a lot of copies, I very much doubt Blizzard is worried at all about GW 2 coming out first or even at the same time as Diablo 3. Blizzard has a MUCH bigger fan base than ArenaNet does.
With that said, I will definitely be buying both! They both look awesome.
I don't think either company is waiting just for the other to announce its game.
If I have to guess, I think Diablo 3 will be the first to be released. I will definitely buy both but I am more excited about Diablo 3 as it is an action RPG and you don't see quality ARPG very often if at all.
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I've been hoping that D3 would of been released by now. Would give me something to play while I wait for the release of GW2. I know if GW2 gets released before D3, I won't be buying D3. D3 would of been a good filler game for me. I'm stuck playing APB:Reloaded now.
Yes both GW2 and D3 are stalling, so they don't compete so to say. This is really obvious with D3's recent delay to remove identification scrolls, less so obvious with GW2.
Right now the markets fairly crowded with games SW;Tor, Skyrim, kingdom of Reckoning, and Tera. like them or hate them D3 and GW2 are just waiting for a dry spell to max profits on release
2 different games that shouldn't worry about the other. ANet are on their own schedule. They want the game perfect for release.
I doubt it. But if one company is waiting to spoil the others game I would have to say it's Blizzard. They are the only one that can afford to hold back a release. I just don't see them doing it for GW2.
Arenanet is definitely on it's own schedule, but I do think that one reason for playing with the release date close to the vest is competative considerations.
Now Blizzard, on the other hand, I can see them trying to time D3 to steal some of the GW2 release's thunder. There is some competition between D3 and GW2, but there is also the threat that GW2 represents to WoW. (Not "the OwO-killer, but just one more game that could siphon away subscribers and make the subscription model seem even more unattractive).
I think TERA has been timed to mess with GW2 as much as possible. Add D3 to the same narrow release window and things get messy, so kudos to Arenanet for keeping the release date secret as long as possible. However, I hope they have everything set to fascilitate a rapid transition between the decision that the game is ready and a successful retail release. The major retailers and E-tailers do need some lead time and NCSoft will need to do a lot of pre-announcement work behind the scenes to ensure a rapid transition if the gap between the release date announcement and the actual release date is to be narrower than usual for the industry.
I have a lot of faith in Arenanet's development of the game, but my only concern is that the marketing, community building and social media side of things seem to be floundering with out motivation or direction. NCSoft has given Arenanet the autonomy, time and money needed to make GW2 a great game, but they also need to put some marketing muscle behind the game and actually leverage social media to proper advantage. Arenanet may just be the best group of MMO developers ever gathered, but that doesn't mean they should believe that they can or should also manage the marketing in-house as well.
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GW2 = MMO
D3 = CORPG
two different genres... have nothing to do with each other.
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My bet is on GW2, I think D3 will be moved to Q4 while GW2 will be Q3.
And no, I think both games will sell well and try to beat eachother like that is probably not a big deal, it might delay some people amonth or 2 with the game releasing later but that is it.
I am more interesting in GW2 than D3 though, more interesting new features in that game at least to me and D3s RMT AH is not my kind of thing anyways.
I don't think ArenaNet is holding GW2 back. They said they would announce the start of beta before the end of 2011 and they did. This also coincided with the reveal of the Mesmer, which makes me believe that was the last piece they needed in order for the game to be feature complete. They've said they're having the press play it this month and then have beta events in March and April. We don't even know if that is going to be when it's released, it could still be any time this year.
TSW is supposed to have an April release date so it seems like they're going to have competition no matter what. There's a bunch of other games on the horizon as well.
If they were going to base their release around the state of the competition, two weeks ago would have been the way to go. Releasing a B2P AAA MMO right before the one month time that a subscription would kick in for SWTOR would have been genius. Skyrim would have been out for 2 months and Kingdoms of Amalaur and D3 would still not be out. The problem is that the game just isn't finished yet, and they know they only have one chance to make an impact so they have to get it polished before release.
Honestly, I don't think it really matters when GW2 releases because I think it's going to be the best MMO to hit the market in a long time. And it also just doesn't have the recognition yet. It's not going to be an initial surge of millions of people, it's going to be a month or two in and people telling their friends they NEED to buy it.
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Problem with this is that D3 and GW2 are not in the same genre. they target two different kind of gamers.
MMO gamers will get the MMO.
non MMO gamers will get the non MMO.
Also I believe GW2 is set for a similar release time as MoP, and not D3.
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they want their game to come out before, not stall and end up as the game people don't buy because they are already happily playing something else.
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Like some, I think ArenaNet has their own time line and isn't worried about any other game releasing. I also agree with MMOExposed, they are two different genres. People that like MMO's won't find D3 a must play on release day.
I am a big GW2 fan so, I can't see myself playing anything other than GW2 when it comes out.
If D3 came out before GW2, I was thinking about playing it, then my buddy got an invite to the D3 demo (I know it's a beta but it is basically a demo). He let me play it and I completed the beta version of the Monk and almost completed the Demon Hunter. After playing it, the only way I am buying it is if comes out way before GW2. It's not a bad game, it's just D2 with a couple new features.
It sounds to me like Blizzard plans on being really busy at the end of the year since they canceled Blizzcon. So my bet is that GW2 will come out first.
I think the 2 will compete. Being different genres doesn't have much to do of anything. I quit WOW to play BF3 and Skyrim. Then I stopped playing BF3 to play TF2 again. I also stop playing my other games once I started playing Civ V.
Very few gamers restrict themselves to one genre.
Also, the limiting factor restricting me from playing D3 and GW2 is time. I just don't have time to play all these games at once. I hope they come out staggered, otherwise I'll have to choose one over the other.
Both are PC titles ones an MMO and the other could be concidered an CO-OP RPG. I see them batteling for the amount of time you play them.
Also if you find yourself really enjoying say GW2 and have only a passing interest in D3 why would you buy D3?
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
Let's be honest people, most MMO fans are also RPG fans. They're almost one in the same. So timing D3 to steal GW2's thunder wouldn't be surprising coming from Blizzard.
I don't think there is as much of a gap in the player-base as people claim. Each iteration of Diablo has a stronger online presence. They're virtually the same genre. If GW1 can be labeled as an MMORPG, then I think that D3 has that right, too. I guarantee that these games aren't going to be released at the same time. If chicken is the metaphor, then I think that Blizzard will lose. Simply because they can afford to delay the game for the right time. I've heard speculation that they are wanting to time it with the WoW expansion. That kind of makes sense with their tandem offer and all.
I've pre-ordered both, and have paid for GW2 (until the CE is announced). Won't be a big deal, if I don't play D3 for a while it will still be on my hard drive when I do want to play.
Well I'll be getting both so in my perspective, don't really care which one comes out first (although I'd like them to be out sooner rather than later).
These two games are different genre's so I'm not sure why this thread exists. Sure these two games are going to be huge when each of them release but there are action rpg fans that will get D3 and there are MMO fans that will get GW2, and there are fans that will get both of them. But i'm convinced that the release date of either will not effect the other just by how different the two games are from each other. I believe that each game has about an equal fanbase at this point. The amount of people who are waiting for both is pretty staggering, and sure D3 is a Blizzard title so its got a massive fanbase to begin with, but I think GW2 has achieved one just as massive over the last couple years.
A better question would be is Torchlight 2 and D3 flirting with release dates. These two are dangerously similar to each other. Personally I'm buying T2, and not D3 just due to the content involved and the price points T2 trumps D3 with LAN play, no rwah, and offline play at 20 dollars, not to mention it being more than 3 times as long as the first Torchlight which was about 15 hours minimum sounds like a winner to me. D3 will be a great game, but its 60 dollars, and not having all of the previous things included is crippling.
There was just news about D3 revamping a system pretty recently. I don't think they're playing chicken, I think Blizzard is still genuinely working on the game and refining it and GW2 only just entered its beta phases. It doesn't go from beta to release overnight.
I think you're just looking a little too hard.
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As others have said, I don't see any reason ArenaNet or Blizzard would be concerned about these two games competing with one another. Sure, a person's entertainment dollars can only go so far, but other than that, Guild Wars 2 and Diablo 3 aren't really in direct competition within the same genre.
I'm sure Runic Games and Perfect World are more concerned with Torchlight 2 possibly aimed at release during the same window as Diablo 3, but I'm sure they'll still get good sales numbers with the budget price point. The first Torchlight was an incredible game for that low price, and the sequel looks to improve on it in every way. I just completed the Diablo 3 beta chapter today, as well, and I must say I was pretty impressed by the game. Much like with Starcraft 2, Blizzard has simply taken the Diablo everybody loved, streamlined it a bit and modernized the graphics, and I don't see why any fan of loot-fest dungeon crawlers wouldn't be happy with that.
i dont think the two will be competing simply because D3 is an outdated concept that would have done well years back. they'll probably sell a mill copies or so. on the other hand, GW2 is next gen, it will be the next WoW, if not bigger.
ANET doesn't want it to be the next WoW they just want to make a great game.
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Not a fan of Diablo either way so, doesn't matter to me. My money's going to ArenaNet.
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