According to you post history I'm supprised you ever subbed. You were disapointed way back in november.
Okay, so these are crockadile tears being shed. Kind of hard to take a poster's anger and sadness seriously when he hated the game before it came out.
What is it with some people around here? What is the point of generating faux outrage on a third party site? Do they really think other opinions will be swayed by manufacturing dissent? I'm just curious.
As for disappointment, I think the biggest drive in that is the same problem that comes out with almost every release. Overblown expectations. BioWare was very honest about what this game was going to be. Were they excited about the game they were making? Of course. But I personally do not feel I was ever mislead either. Then again, I am pretty good at decoding marketing speech and actually looking past that, so my expectations were well within the reasonable range.
Ehh what?? the overblown expectations where created by noone but EA and Bioware themselves!
When you boast time and again that you have a whole dedicated team of experts working on PVP and that this game will have the most awesome PVP ever! Then you can expect that a lot of PVP minded customers will flock to your game and call you on that promise!
So the whole outcry regarding the shambles that is PVP is VERY justified! As they have been lying through their teeth!
It really boggles the mind, as PVP in WAR was a ton more fun than in this game! And with the EXACT same devs working on PVP in this game, I am astonished how they could have screwed it up this bad. They have learned absolutely nothing from the issues that plagued WAR.
Yes I am very surprised by this as well because I got really excited when they announced that they have same people working on the PvP which worked on WAR. So I thought they would have learned and improved on WARs PvP but they did nothing of the sort. Huge dissapointment I would say.
But then again, regardless of what they said, SW:TOR is a sub-par PvP game so people should not be expecting much. I know I am not anymore. I am just playing for the class story lines and will quit once I am done with those.
I think people need to come to the realization that SW:TOR has a beginning (lvl 1) and an end (lvl 50). The game does not seem to be designed to keep playing at level 50 but rather the two choices you have is either reroll or quit.
More over the game is not a PvP centered game and will always get a backseat to PvE.
I don't think either of those are opinions but rather facts and if people accept those facts they would be less dissapointed. That does not mean I agree with those two aspects of the game (I don't) but it is what it is.
The first part I can not agree with. As a Themepark game, it has more "end game" options at release than almost every game to come out since WoW, heck, even including WoW. Rerolling and quitting are of course option, but by no means the only two options as you stated.
I do mostly agree with your PvP statement. I personally feel the PvP available at release is also better, and much more varied, than almost every other themepark game, but I do not see the game as being PvP centered. Then again, few themepark games are PvP centered.
As for disappointment, I think the biggest drive in that is the same problem that comes out with almost every release. Overblown expectations. BioWare was very honest about what this game was going to be. Were they excited about the game they were making? Of course. But I personally do not feel I was ever mislead either. Then again, I am pretty good at decoding marketing speech and actually looking past that, so my expectations were well within the reasonable range.
Ehh what?? the overblown expectations where created by noone but EA and Bioware themselves!
When you boast time and again that you have a whole dedicated team of experts working on PVP and that this game will have the most awesome PVP ever! Then you can expect that a lot of PVP minded customers will flock to your game and call you on that promise!
So the whole outcry regarding the shambles that is PVP is VERY justified! As they have ben lying through their teeth!
And don't even start on me with the whole HighRes texture debacle and what a shambles that one is and how they handled that one. /facepalm
Except that expectations are created in the mind of a person, not placed there by an outside source. YOU have the responsibility to look at what someone is claiming and making up your own interpretations of what the reality, for you, really is. As for PvP, they claimed what they believed. You feel differently. That doesn't make them wrong, that means opinions differ. Your expectations were created by YOU not taking a better look. The information was out there, so the fault lies with you.
ROFL! Do you actually read what you're writing?
So when I order a Ferari and then a couple months later get it finally delivered, but discover that it's only a Ferari on the outside, but the engine is 1.4 volkswagen. Then it's my fault?? Because you expect me to go all the way to the factory in Italy and check that what I order is actually being made and put together? LOL! /facepalm
Seriously! As long as there are people like you, developers in the game industry can continue to get away with crap like this and false advertisment!
No, I would expect you to have the intelligence to do the research to find out all the specs of such an expensive purchase, just like I did for buying this game, which was considerably less in case you didn't know. The information was out there. The Beta Weekends were easy to get into. The NDA was dropped well in advance of ANYONE actually buying the game. If you are now disappointed with what you got, it is YOUR fault, not BioWare's. They were VERY clear on the type of game they were producing. You were not smart in the research you did and therefore had overblown expectations. Maybe next time you will have learned your lesson.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
According to you post history I'm supprised you ever subbed. You were disapointed way back in november.
Okay, so these are crockadile tears being shed. Kind of hard to take a poster's anger and sadness seriously when he hated the game before it came out.
What is it with some people around here? What is the point of generating faux outrage on a third party site? Do they really think other opinions will be swayed by manufacturing dissent? I'm just curious.
It gets them few minutes of much needed attention maybe?
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
Seems to me most people have issue with how PVP is working in game.
THANK GOD I dont care much about pvp :P
THIS !
I noticed that the majority of these whine posts (the ones i have read) seem to be more P'Oed about the PvP than anything else. Clearly thats what the OP is disgruntled about.
I dont know the comment or quote, but i seem to remember Bioware stating this game was about the PvE not PvP.
Oh well coming into a game with expectations for something not promised seems a bit shortsighted.
I thought it was common knowledge to all MMO vets that if you want a better, more complete, less buggy etc experience then you don't play a new game in the first 6 months.
Seems to me most people have issue with how PVP is working in game.
THANK GOD I dont care much about pvp :P
THIS !
I noticed that the majority of these whine posts (the ones i have read) seem to be more P'Oed about the PvP than anything else. Clearly thats what the OP is disgruntled about.
I dont know the comment or quote, but i seem to remember Bioware stating this game was about the PvE not PvP.
Oh well coming into a game with expectations for something not promised seems a bit shortsighted.
I am also more into PVE than PVP, hence why I am still subbed (or I would have unsubbed already).
But what you say it's not true! There have been many developer videos and articles with them boasting PVP and how incredible it will be, them bragging that they had a full dedicated team of experts working on it! Including former devs from WAR.
So yes, I can feel for the PVP'ers being shafted and deceived by this whole debacle!
WAR's PVP had a ton of issues, but it was still tons more fun than PVP currently is in SW:TOR! And them having the exact same devs on this game, is what infuriates people most! As you would expect them to at least have LEARNED from their MISTAKES on Warhammer Online (WAR) and don't repeat them in this game all over again!
But foremost! People expected the PVP to be at least as good as it was in WAR and not the total opposite as it is now. That really baffles me the most. How they could have screwed it up so badly, when they have been working years on WAR before.
I am also more into PVE than PVP, hence why I am still subbed (or I would have unsubbed already).
But what you say it's not true! There have been many developer videos and articles with them boasting PVP and how incredible it will be, them bragging that they had a full dedicated team of experts working on it! Including former devs from WAR.
So yes, I can feel for the PVP'ers being shafted and deceived by this whole debacle!
WAR's PVP had a ton of issues, but it was still tons more fun than PVP currently is in SW:TOR! And them having the exact same devs on this game, is what infuriates people most! As you would expect them to at least have LEARNED from their MISTAKES on Warhammer Online (WAR) and don't repeat them in this game all over again!
But foremost! People expected the PVP to be at least as good as it was in WAR and not the total opposite as it is now. That really baffles me the most. How they could have screwed it up so badly, when they have been working years on WAR before.
I think the problem is too many different type of whining makes it harder for developer.
I have heard
1. OMG this class is OP, nerf it
2. OMG I can't do this and that, buff me
3. Fix this now
4. Fix that now
5. Not to mention a lot of beta players problem did not report what makes the class they want to play strong. People always say they want a fair pvp in game. In reality, a lot of people prefer that EDGE. Now the game is released, all the hidden protencial problem start to surface. I only blame those beta testers that did not do their job. Intentioal or not ( I am betting on the first )
In a nutshell, that is how most MMO PVP sucks at the end. Everyone wants some edge over others. No body wins when everything is said and done.
Seems to me most people have issue with how PVP is working in game.
THANK GOD I dont care much about pvp :P
THIS !
I noticed that the majority of these whine posts (the ones i have read) seem to be more P'Oed about the PvP than anything else. Clearly thats what the OP is disgruntled about.
I dont know the comment or quote, but i seem to remember Bioware stating this game was about the PvE not PvP.
Oh well coming into a game with expectations for something not promised seems a bit shortsighted.
I am also more into PVE than PVP, hence why I am still subbed (or I would have unsubbed already).
But what you say it's not true! There have been many developer videos and articles with them boasting PVP and how incredible it will be, them bragging that they had a full dedicated team of experts working on it! Including former devs from WAR.
So yes, I can feel for the PVP'ers being shafted and deceived by this whole debacle!
WAR's PVP had a ton of issues, but it was still tons more fun than PVP currently is in SW:TOR! And them having the exact same devs on this game, is what infuriates people most! As you would expect them to at least have LEARNED from their MISTAKES on Warhammer Online (WAR) and don't repeat them in this game all over again!
But foremost! People expected the PVP to be at least as good as it was in WAR and not the total opposite as it is now. That really baffles me the most. How they could have screwed it up so badly, when they have been working years on WAR before.
I'll say it again. YOU had overblown expectations because you did not do the intelligent thing and actaully do some real research. The information was out there, you did not seek it out, so the problem is your fault and blaming anyone else for not having the knowledge you easily could have is just plain weak.
Of course the people at BioWare felt they had a good PvP game and talked about it. Would you really expect them to intentionally design a game they felt was bad and then tell people they did so? So they designed what they felt would be a fun PvP game and you disagree now. The onus was on YOU to do the research and find out if the PvP game was what you wanted. You did not do so even with months of beta leaks, a month of the NDA being lifted, AND the Beta Weekends.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I am also more into PVE than PVP, hence why I am still subbed (or I would have unsubbed already).
But what you say it's not true! There have been many developer videos and articles with them boasting PVP and how incredible it will be, them bragging that they had a full dedicated team of experts working on it! Including former devs from WAR.
So yes, I can feel for the PVP'ers being shafted and deceived by this whole debacle!
WAR's PVP had a ton of issues, but it was still tons more fun than PVP currently is in SW:TOR! And them having the exact same devs on this game, is what infuriates people most! As you would expect them to at least have LEARNED from their MISTAKES on Warhammer Online (WAR) and don't repeat them in this game all over again!
But foremost! People expected the PVP to be at least as good as it was in WAR and not the total opposite as it is now. That really baffles me the most. How they could have screwed it up so badly, when they have been working years on WAR before.
I think the problem is too many different type of whining makes it harder for developer.
I have heard
1. OMG this class is OP, nerf it
2. OMG I can't do this and that, buff me
3. Fix this now
4. Fix that now
5. Not to mention a lot of beta players problem did not report what makes the class they want to play strong. People always say they want a fair pvp in game. In reality, a lot of people prefer that EDGE. Now the game is released, all the hidden protencial problem start to surface. I only blame those beta testers that did not do their job. Intentioal or not ( I am betting on the first )
In a nutshell, that is how most MMO PVP sucks at the end. Everyone wants some edge over others. No body wins when everything is said and done.
The problems with SW:TOR's PVP isn't so much the classes itself. Sure there are imbalance issues (like longer animations with sertain abilities on Republic side).
The real problem is, that there are not enough level brackets for Warzones.
It was extremely bad with having lvl50's matching up with low levels before. But it's still bad having to fight against a majority of lvl45+ oponents, who steamroll you just as much.
1. We got the faction imbalance, with Empire having a lot more higher level players. So in pretty much every Warzone I queue up for, I am facing mostly lvl40-45+ Empire players all the time. While on Republic side we are lucky to have at least one player being lvl40+.
add to this:
2. That the diminishing return/immunity system for CC is bugged and not working.
You can do the math in how the average Warzone plays out. I can tell you it ain't pretty and I have given up on PVP'ing all together for the time being, as it's just a borefest.
I play on two servers and I have yet to win a single warzone on republic side. In each and everyone of them we've been steamrolled by lvl40-45+ Empire players chain CC / chain killing everyone.
So in each warzone I ended up with players diconnecting from the Warzone left and right... making it even worse and leaving you outnumbered.
So the only choice you have, is either to leave as well and not able to re-queue due to the time penalty or suffer and sit it out, wasting time for shitty xp, commendations and valor returns. :-/
And so the problem only grows larger and larger, with Empire players raking in XP, valor and commendations much faster than on Republic side.
The first two main things they need to do is:
1. Fix the darn immunity/diminishing return system with CC !
2. Create more level brackets to reduce the whole steamrolling that is going on right now by lvl40-45+ premades.
The result will inevitably be that they will have to create cross-server Warzones to reduce queue times! But I rather have that, then the current PVP we have now.
A level 10 may not have the tricks, escapes, stuns ect of a level 49, BUT they hit like a Two ton tanker. I have a level 13 gunslinger that I've been taking into matches exclusively since level 10, the only night I didn't do by far the most damage and get the most kills of the match was when we had 4 people dancing atop one of the gun turrets.
Yes at level 10 you'll die alot, but you'll also kill alot. Any level 49 who doesn't zero in on a low level burst class is going to feel some pain.
It was the level 50's with their expertese gear making them all but un killable that ruined matches for low levels. Even against a good 4 person premade I can usually splat one of them before they notice and splat me.
Now what a level 10 is lacking is stuns and escapes. Against multiple foes they will get stun locked and splatted in quick order.
Queue time on my server is 5-10 minutes and then just about continuous after that, so not really an issue and I play both republic and Empire
Alts? Well, party ok. But with the Legacy system being a non existant ingame mechanic, and not likely to be anytime soon, theres little incentive.
Haven't really been keeping up to date on the dev updates, have you? Legacy system will be here in a little over a month. As for the rest of your issues, I guess it's up to the opinion of the person. I'm level 50 and find I don't have enough time in the day to get through all the stuff I need to do every day. There is a bunch of content in this game.
That being said, if you are a PvPer, or someone who doesn't like doing the gear progression thing at endgame, then yes, I can understand your frustration at this point in time. Best thing for you to do is to cancel your sub and try the game out again in a few months after they've added more stuff that you would like to do and fixed up the PvP issues.
Well I am over 40 so I am used to disappiontment at this point of my life... Alot of people were upset by this game. Star Wars is like an old friend to many of us , so we treated a Star Wars game ..like an old friend, only to relize our mistake too late.
There is no way to make this right, it's come and gone. Now there is a Star Wars MMO, we lost one and gained one and they both stunk. Maybe there is no way to pull off a good Star Wars MMO.
Maybe there will be another Star Wars MMO in the foreseeable future and we'll all like it...maybe...
Wow how many MMO''s have you played at launch? All those things you mentioned are so little its not even funny lol. SWTOR pulled off its story element, the PVE progression is extremely enjoyable and the pvp gameplay and presentation is quite epic, like If i video taped some of the warzones or Ilum battles ive been in it would look like it belonged in a star wars movie. Who cares if there isnt ranking yet thats been brought up multiple times and will come in patches, the game is new and everything you asked for in this post has already been brought up to bioware and they will fix it in the next coming patches. Remember that this game has barely been out, Rift has home some time to fix everything they did wrong....even though I dont like the game still but thats besides the point.
Im a hardcore SWTOR/BIO 'fanboi', mk? Have an official forum account created on Oct 08, etc blah blah blah.
Yesterday, hit a massive wall. Ive been waiting for this game and following the Friday updates FOR YEARS, PAID 160 DOLLARS FOR THE CE, AND HAVE LITTLE MORE THEN A MONTHS PLAYTIME TO SHOW FOR IT.
Endgame content, lack of pvp, LACK OF TRACKING SYSTEM FOR PVP KILLS, PVP CODEX PERIOD, IS THE MAIN REASON.
Im having a harder and harder time loging in. Theres just so little to do. Yeah yeah the story is good. But that only gets you so far.
Alts? Well, party ok. But with the Legacy system being a non existant ingame mechanic, and not likely to be anytime soon, theres little incentive.
I feel like im going thru adolescence again. Between being angry/sad at this, im surprised at how strongly I feel about this game..
Anyone else feeling this?
I can relate althought the feeling has kind of passed now. I spent 4 months prior to release preparing by reading all of the written lore and replaying KOTOR 1 and 2 again. I was POSITIVE this would be my mmo home for years and years to come. Then I played the game and the more I played the more angry I got that it was so mediocre in so many areas and just so crappy. As a consumer it angered me even more that this kind of product was developed and sold in 2012 at this quality level. Ultimately I was just angry and disappointed.
I ranted and raved for a while on the forums, which you can see my post history - but for the last few weeks I barely come on anymore - the anger has pretty much passed. I guess I've accepted the game for the turd it is and know I'll never play it again and that it's ok, there will be other mmo's. Now I've just been playing single player games and that's been pretty fun - WAY more fun than SWTOR that's for sure.
Wow how many MMO''s have you played at launch? All those things you mentioned are so little its not even funny lol. SWTOR pulled off its story element, the PVE progression is extremely enjoyable and the pvp gameplay and presentation is quite epic, like If i video taped some of the warzones or Ilum battles ive been in it would look like it belonged in a star wars movie. Who cares if there isnt ranking yet thats been brought up multiple times and will come in patches, the game is new and everything you asked for in this post has already been brought up to bioware and they will fix it in the next coming patches. Remember that this game has barely been out, Rift has home some time to fix everything they did wrong....even though I dont like the game still but thats besides the point.
It doesnt look like a Star Wars movie to me, it looks like Ironforge. The PVP videos I see are far from inspiring and the constant use of game hacks by what is now 100s of Bot builders don't do much for the game either.
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Okay, so these are crockadile tears being shed. Kind of hard to take a poster's anger and sadness seriously when he hated the game before it came out.
What is it with some people around here? What is the point of generating faux outrage on a third party site? Do they really think other opinions will be swayed by manufacturing dissent? I'm just curious.
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Yes I am very surprised by this as well because I got really excited when they announced that they have same people working on the PvP which worked on WAR. So I thought they would have learned and improved on WARs PvP but they did nothing of the sort. Huge dissapointment I would say.
But then again, regardless of what they said, SW:TOR is a sub-par PvP game so people should not be expecting much. I know I am not anymore. I am just playing for the class story lines and will quit once I am done with those.
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No, I would expect you to have the intelligence to do the research to find out all the specs of such an expensive purchase, just like I did for buying this game, which was considerably less in case you didn't know. The information was out there. The Beta Weekends were easy to get into. The NDA was dropped well in advance of ANYONE actually buying the game. If you are now disappointed with what you got, it is YOUR fault, not BioWare's. They were VERY clear on the type of game they were producing. You were not smart in the research you did and therefore had overblown expectations. Maybe next time you will have learned your lesson.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I don't think anyone can be surprized at what SWTOR is and isn't.
BW/EA has been saying what SWTOR is for the past 3+ years while it was in development, plus the beta, plus the early NDA lifts etc.
Other than putting a giant sign on every building I can't imagine what BW/EA could have done more.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
It gets them few minutes of much needed attention maybe?
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
Seems to me most people have issue with how PVP is working in game.
THANK GOD I dont care much about pvp :P
THIS !
I noticed that the majority of these whine posts (the ones i have read) seem to be more P'Oed about the PvP than anything else. Clearly thats what the OP is disgruntled about.
I dont know the comment or quote, but i seem to remember Bioware stating this game was about the PvE not PvP.
Oh well coming into a game with expectations for something not promised seems a bit shortsighted.
Lolipops !
I thought it was common knowledge to all MMO vets that if you want a better, more complete, less buggy etc experience then you don't play a new game in the first 6 months.
I am also more into PVE than PVP, hence why I am still subbed (or I would have unsubbed already).
But what you say it's not true! There have been many developer videos and articles with them boasting PVP and how incredible it will be, them bragging that they had a full dedicated team of experts working on it! Including former devs from WAR.
So yes, I can feel for the PVP'ers being shafted and deceived by this whole debacle!
WAR's PVP had a ton of issues, but it was still tons more fun than PVP currently is in SW:TOR! And them having the exact same devs on this game, is what infuriates people most! As you would expect them to at least have LEARNED from their MISTAKES on Warhammer Online (WAR) and don't repeat them in this game all over again!
But foremost! People expected the PVP to be at least as good as it was in WAR and not the total opposite as it is now. That really baffles me the most. How they could have screwed it up so badly, when they have been working years on WAR before.
What lack of end game conent?
I am lvl 50 and hardly have any of the great gear. You havee 2 diffeent Operations with 3 difficulyy levels as well as HM Flash Points.
and warzones are fun.
that'S not anytime soon? :P thought so, my bad
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I think the problem is too many different type of whining makes it harder for developer.
I have heard
1. OMG this class is OP, nerf it
2. OMG I can't do this and that, buff me
3. Fix this now
4. Fix that now
5. Not to mention a lot of beta players problem did not report what makes the class they want to play strong. People always say they want a fair pvp in game. In reality, a lot of people prefer that EDGE. Now the game is released, all the hidden protencial problem start to surface. I only blame those beta testers that did not do their job. Intentioal or not ( I am betting on the first )
In a nutshell, that is how most MMO PVP sucks at the end. Everyone wants some edge over others. No body wins when everything is said and done.
I'll say it again. YOU had overblown expectations because you did not do the intelligent thing and actaully do some real research. The information was out there, you did not seek it out, so the problem is your fault and blaming anyone else for not having the knowledge you easily could have is just plain weak.
Of course the people at BioWare felt they had a good PvP game and talked about it. Would you really expect them to intentionally design a game they felt was bad and then tell people they did so? So they designed what they felt would be a fun PvP game and you disagree now. The onus was on YOU to do the research and find out if the PvP game was what you wanted. You did not do so even with months of beta leaks, a month of the NDA being lifted, AND the Beta Weekends.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
The problems with SW:TOR's PVP isn't so much the classes itself. Sure there are imbalance issues (like longer animations with sertain abilities on Republic side).
The real problem is, that there are not enough level brackets for Warzones.
It was extremely bad with having lvl50's matching up with low levels before. But it's still bad having to fight against a majority of lvl45+ oponents, who steamroll you just as much.
1. We got the faction imbalance, with Empire having a lot more higher level players. So in pretty much every Warzone I queue up for, I am facing mostly lvl40-45+ Empire players all the time. While on Republic side we are lucky to have at least one player being lvl40+.
add to this:
2. That the diminishing return/immunity system for CC is bugged and not working.
You can do the math in how the average Warzone plays out. I can tell you it ain't pretty and I have given up on PVP'ing all together for the time being, as it's just a borefest.
I play on two servers and I have yet to win a single warzone on republic side. In each and everyone of them we've been steamrolled by lvl40-45+ Empire players chain CC / chain killing everyone.
So in each warzone I ended up with players diconnecting from the Warzone left and right... making it even worse and leaving you outnumbered.
So the only choice you have, is either to leave as well and not able to re-queue due to the time penalty or suffer and sit it out, wasting time for shitty xp, commendations and valor returns. :-/
And so the problem only grows larger and larger, with Empire players raking in XP, valor and commendations much faster than on Republic side.
The first two main things they need to do is:
1. Fix the darn immunity/diminishing return system with CC !
2. Create more level brackets to reduce the whole steamrolling that is going on right now by lvl40-45+ premades.
The result will inevitably be that they will have to create cross-server Warzones to reduce queue times! But I rather have that, then the current PVP we have now.
A level 10 may not have the tricks, escapes, stuns ect of a level 49, BUT they hit like a Two ton tanker. I have a level 13 gunslinger that I've been taking into matches exclusively since level 10, the only night I didn't do by far the most damage and get the most kills of the match was when we had 4 people dancing atop one of the gun turrets.
Yes at level 10 you'll die alot, but you'll also kill alot. Any level 49 who doesn't zero in on a low level burst class is going to feel some pain.
It was the level 50's with their expertese gear making them all but un killable that ruined matches for low levels. Even against a good 4 person premade I can usually splat one of them before they notice and splat me.
Now what a level 10 is lacking is stuns and escapes. Against multiple foes they will get stun locked and splatted in quick order.
Queue time on my server is 5-10 minutes and then just about continuous after that, so not really an issue and I play both republic and Empire
Haven't really been keeping up to date on the dev updates, have you? Legacy system will be here in a little over a month. As for the rest of your issues, I guess it's up to the opinion of the person. I'm level 50 and find I don't have enough time in the day to get through all the stuff I need to do every day. There is a bunch of content in this game.
That being said, if you are a PvPer, or someone who doesn't like doing the gear progression thing at endgame, then yes, I can understand your frustration at this point in time. Best thing for you to do is to cancel your sub and try the game out again in a few months after they've added more stuff that you would like to do and fixed up the PvP issues.
Lets avoid the personal attacks guys. Thanks.
Well I am over 40 so I am used to disappiontment at this point of my life... Alot of people were upset by this game. Star Wars is like an old friend to many of us , so we treated a Star Wars game ..like an old friend, only to relize our mistake too late.
There is no way to make this right, it's come and gone. Now there is a Star Wars MMO, we lost one and gained one and they both stunk. Maybe there is no way to pull off a good Star Wars MMO.
Maybe there will be another Star Wars MMO in the foreseeable future and we'll all like it...maybe...
Wow how many MMO''s have you played at launch? All those things you mentioned are so little its not even funny lol. SWTOR pulled off its story element, the PVE progression is extremely enjoyable and the pvp gameplay and presentation is quite epic, like If i video taped some of the warzones or Ilum battles ive been in it would look like it belonged in a star wars movie. Who cares if there isnt ranking yet thats been brought up multiple times and will come in patches, the game is new and everything you asked for in this post has already been brought up to bioware and they will fix it in the next coming patches. Remember that this game has barely been out, Rift has home some time to fix everything they did wrong....even though I dont like the game still but thats besides the point.
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WHAT? Are you following any news at all? Legacy system is coming in 1.2, which is in March... which is like 3 weeks away. This is well-documented.
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I can relate althought the feeling has kind of passed now. I spent 4 months prior to release preparing by reading all of the written lore and replaying KOTOR 1 and 2 again. I was POSITIVE this would be my mmo home for years and years to come. Then I played the game and the more I played the more angry I got that it was so mediocre in so many areas and just so crappy. As a consumer it angered me even more that this kind of product was developed and sold in 2012 at this quality level. Ultimately I was just angry and disappointed.
I ranted and raved for a while on the forums, which you can see my post history - but for the last few weeks I barely come on anymore - the anger has pretty much passed. I guess I've accepted the game for the turd it is and know I'll never play it again and that it's ok, there will be other mmo's. Now I've just been playing single player games and that's been pretty fun - WAY more fun than SWTOR that's for sure.
It doesnt look like a Star Wars movie to me, it looks like Ironforge. The PVP videos I see are far from inspiring and the constant use of game hacks by what is now 100s of Bot builders don't do much for the game either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1fNGPQmb8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy9hnz3Vrws&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edlfUMYoJ0A&feature=fvsr