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These guys really love Tor
Kuppa
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIrZ1BwWzM
Some people really do like it....a lot.
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That guy on the right, is either has 12 year old sitting inside of him, or is paid to say this bullshit.
He said, gunslinger, you should all play gunslinger, it is so funny interesting story etc..., OMG, did he even play it? up to level 15 you run after some retarted thief, who stole your ship because you were stupid enough not to close it. After that you hunt some rich theif treasure, i read stories for my 2 year old daughters that are more interesting. It is just as boring as it can get, you go deliver 2 things on that planet, and you we get info, go deliver that and we that more info, and in the end, when you finish your first part of the story, and you expect to get atleast a good weapon, or freaking boots, you get, 'well you earned no money or fortune, but people will give you quests now'....
WTF? is that VERY interesting and FUNNY? it is below avarage advanture book for 12 year old...
To each their own ofc, and the class stories differ in appeal and richness from eachother; but I prefer the stories presented by TOR's class stories above most of the quest storylines as presented in other MMO's, presentation with the VO/cutscenes/dialogue choices was better and the stories themselves also have more consistency, story arc and appeal to them than most stories presented in quests in other MMO's bar a couple of exceptions.Not flaming but honestly, the guy in the video sounds more mature than you right now. He was talking about the game and you are insulting him. Who is the grown up here?
There are OBJECTIVE reasons why this game is bad
As in reasons that are not just opinion.
The bugs, for instance. Or the factions inbalance. Or the fact that there are too many servers and people are waiting upwards of an hour in queue while others are finding it impossible to find a group.
You may be able to tollerate those things, but you can not argue them.
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
There are OBJECTIVE reasons why this game is bad
As in reasons that are not just opinion.
The bugs, for instance. Or the factions inbalance. Or the fact that there are too many servers and people are waiting upwards of an hour in queue while others are finding it impossible to find a group.
You may be able to tollerate those things, but you can not argue them.
Sorry, but the number of bugs and severity of them are nowhere near what has been seen in most of the MMO launches, so that places TOR above most of the pack, objectively speaking. There's some objective drawbacks of TOR and then there's a whole lot of subjective bias and personal preference presented as objective reasons added into the mix -_-No there are not. What is objective to you might not be same for others. it is like telling people they are 'dumb' because they like Justin bieber and Michael bay movies. Surprise surprise..some people can actually overlook problems like bugs and faction imbalances and still enjoy the game. Must be irrational folks.
/roll eyes
WoW wtf was that... i turned it off after he said the graphics where "phemoninal"... and every 2 seconds they where giggles like little school girls i dont know if they were been serious or just trolling...
Someone please punch these youtube hipsters in the jeans and then send them off with the blue hair this site pushes on us at a regular basis into the nether never to be heard of again. It's this kind of epic lameness that promotes bad game development.
Well they are in titled to their opinions. But I don’t agree with them on some things tho.
Like when that one dude on the left starts talking about that there aren’t any rotations and every fight feel different, that’s a load of bull! You can lie to your self all you like, but by the end of the day you do the same stuff over and over again. And sure the enemy's look different, but when you break it down, there are only a few types of them: Ranged and melee (and maybe some with some special ability’s or something) But my point is, that your next mob fight aint going to be all that different from your last, and you will probably use the same skill rotation on this one as well.
That one in a million Anime loving,Workout crazy, Gamer.
KiX0@Steam/Raptr
So he is more mature, which means that he is being paid for saying what he is saying. because no mature man will find smuggler story anywhere near interesting. Maybe it is better than in some games, but i don't agree even with that, It is jsut you have to actually read the stories in other games, and if you don't enjoy or think reading is boring, you don't see the story. Most gamers would probably say 'reading is boring', so any movie is more interesting than any book, and that is probably where all this "great story" is coming from. I enjoy good movie and good book, and the smuggler story is not anywhere near what i would call "good", below avarage... It is just libirating people from reading, and for most of games that what buys it, i think.
Uh, no buddy, it isn't my OPINION that some people are waiting 30 minutes to an hour to get in a warzone.
It isn't my OPINION that high res textures were taken out of the game before launch.
Just be lucky I'm talking about the OBJECTIVE faults of the game. I could go on FOR HOURS about how there are better solutions to SWTOR in terms of both MMO and single player that DON'T cost 15 a month
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Well reread the red text, and your statment was adressed, and you have no point. His point is: People can enjoy the game, people can close their eyes and overlook problems, that they can't argue the inbalance, bugs etc...
Watched the vid, then came back to read the forum. Realised that these forums are becoming a lot like the youtube comments section. That can't be a good thing.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
Tell that to Rift. An MMO built with 1/10 of the hype and a fraction of the budget and still managed to make a better built game, better engine and better developer support.
But it doesn't have 25 gigabytes of talking, so i guess TOR blows it out of the water.
Seriously, of ALL the gimmicks they could have chosen, they choose talking. Amazing
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
You don't have a clue what's the difference between subjective and objective. Do you?
MMOs played: WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Planetside, Global Agenda, Star Trek Online, RIFT, Everquest 2, Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, EvE online, APB
Best MMO Companies: Trion Worlds, ArenaNet, CCP
Worst MMO Companies: Electronic Arts
Tell that to Rift. An MMO built with 1/10 of the hype and a fraction of the budget and still managed to make a better built game, better engine and better developer support.
But it doesn't have 25 gigabytes of talking, so i guess TOR blows it out of the water.
Seriously, of ALL the gimmicks they could have chosen, they choose talking. Amazing
Shrug. I see a lot of subjectivity, personal preference and hyperbole in those arguments. Rift is just 1 game, I'm looking at all the MMO's that have been released the past 5-10 years, that's real objectivity. Next to that, I wouldn't call 50 million dollars dev budget a fraction of TOR's budget, esp since 200 million dollars still has no source to it or official confirmation to it and is merely 1 of the many figures speculations going around.
25 GB of talking is another worthless hyperbole that only devaluates your argument and claim of objectivity you're trying to make. As for what TOR changed, it has a far higher quality of quest based leveling than traditional textbased questing is in other MMO's: you might not care about your quest leveling experience or be 100% perfectly ok with the lame old textbased story-trivial questing stuff, but to others their quest leveling experience is pretty important gameplay as well, and they enjoy what TOR has to offer in that department more than what's on offer regarding quest leveling in other MMO's.
As for what's a good or bad MMO, that's up to personal taste. Personally I found Rift's world too small, its questing some of the blandest encountered so far, its world and lore only averagely adequate compelling, and only its rifts interesting and entertaining as a feature, but only for the first weeks to me. This last part is subjective btw. Oh, its dev support is pretty good, 1 of the best around, I agree.lol @ that opening fist pound.
Good for them, I still think its crap.
And you don't know what is difference of prespective do you? some people are able to look beyond bugs and other issues and enjoy the game..while others would complain just about anything say 'loading screens in GW2'. What is objectivity for you could be just bull crap for me.
Ehh? why we can't argue ? is your word or his is last over matters like these? and no that is not the point he was trying to make. it is you who is twisting his post into something that it isn't.
Looking beyond the bugs does not make them disappear. And no matter how hard you try, perspective does not make the queues on low population servers any shorter.
But hey, I see what you mean. Eating shit and paying for it is ok as long as you can convince yourself that it tastes good, right?
I think that SWTOR is a ok game. The only thing that pissed me off to no end was that horribe user interface. But I enjoyed the story despite that. The bad UI was one reason why I didnt continue to sub though. It was also something I didnt really understand how devs could overlook this so easy.
In MMO's the user interface is always seen as a very important aspect of the game. To me it is quite obvious that no player is alike when it comes to UI preference, so imo a flexible and customisable UI is mandatory for a new game nowadays.
I am pretty sure you eat load of shit everyday..just that you don't know it. Even though you might think it is the best dessert in the world. See..prespective.
Yup, just another failed attempt to talk up a game. It's still garbage and nowhere near worth what it cost.
Exactly. But I won't go trying to convince everyone it isn't shit that I'm eating when I rip open the candy bar wrapper. There's the difference.
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