You already have a new World of Warcraft... several in fact. Try out any of the following for another mind-numbing, hand-holding, loot treadmill experience:
Aion
Rift
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Tera
Age of Conan
The last thing we need is another World of Warcraft clone with a gimmick to try and lure players in. Voice acting, female nudity, skillshots, random invasions, and angel wings don't change the core of the core design of the game, so take your pick and have fun.
Not a warcraft clone. Original warcraft, you cant make wow clone. Wow is only one and nobody can make so good games like Blizzard. Well this games up there are good (ok ,only aion sucks ). But wow lore is something special and for years with us, from rts to mmorpg
I was thinking what could boost fantasy mmo world again and i came to conclusion that only Blizzard can make again huge mmo with millions of players. But what kind of game? There is no need to think much. New wow with next gen graphic and i will sub again for another 6-7 years. Nothing can compare with magic world of Azeroth
No...just ....no. All we need is another hamster wheel game that every other gaming company on earth will try to copy and fail over and over for another nearly 10 years.
Who cares about copy??? I would play original for years.
If it keeps people like you that are clueless to what MMORPG's are really suppose to be about in their virtual daycare worlds..then have at it...and take the rest with your mindset with you.
But we are greatful to have people like you to show us what we are supposed to like.
Did I say anything about what you should like? No...but thanks for trying to put words in my mouth and twist it to your own liking.
Well your right. I assumed that you knew what games were considered a true MMO and therefore be what you consider worth liking. My bad.
How about ones that were based off of and meant for P&P game players like D&D and Rift (Not Rifts). With OPEN worlds where you are free to do as you please, explore huge areas and meet people along the way to adventure with, where COMMUNITY makes the game and grouping is actually done once in awhile instead of everyone ignoring everyone else because you can solo to cap, where gear isn't so important and ridiculously OP'ed, where you don't hit cap in a month or less so you can sit in a capital city spamming for groups for the high end content that no one will let you in if you don't have at least 8 pieces of Epic gear, where everything isn't instanced,...basically..everything they aren't now due to a combination of WoW's massive advertisement campaign, players from the console genre pulled in, other companies trying to copy it giving us an endless supply of hamster wheel fodder, and amazingly...people still asking for more of the same. It's like paying $50 for a game you've already beaten. Oh...and not so damn fast and easy.
They are mostly glorified console RPG's that happen to be multiplayer.....kind of. Unfortunately...other players in them just act as a bit more advanced AI since no one groups or talks to you unless they feel like berrating you as a noob or unless there is something in it for them. MMORPG's that had community..like UO and EQ..and several others that came before WoW. They could and will make a comeback at some point.
Belay my last about saying no to it. I really wouldn't care if some of you want a WoW 2...more power to you. It's the God damn companies trying to make the same damn game over and over that pisses me off. Because that is ALL we get. Wish someone could have the passion, imagination and creativity to think ouside the WoW box.
My opinion is that Blizzard should stay away from MMOs and go back to RTS and Dungeon Crawlers.
A Blackthorne FPS could be good too.
Company with best fantasy mmo ever made should stay away from mmo??? Where is the logic?
You HAVE to be a troll...or a 12 year old. Best MMORPG ever made?! Not by a LONG shot....if you knew what they were originally about. Bet you think it was the first one too.
Yes, because it isn't what you want must mean it isn't the best. It's subjective, get over your self.
"Best" is totally subjective. A lot of people, even people who play the game, dont consider it the "best".
"Most popular" I'll give them, but popularity and quality are not the same thing.
You also have to consider the Blizzard that created WoW is not the same Blizzard of today. I've always been relatively indefferent toward the company in the past, but the current Blizzard pales in comparison to the Blizzard of 10 years ago, and the current Blizzard has been upsetting a lot of their fanbase as of recent years. So yes, I think they need to step away from MMOs and work on something else.
Not a warcraft clone. Original warcraft, you cant make wow clone. Wow is only one and nobody can make so good games like Blizzard. Well this games up there are good (ok ,only aion sucks ). But wow lore is something special and for years with us, from rts to mmorpg
"wow is the only one"
Have you tried wow ? theres free trial now if you havent.its sad you cant try its different versions,I liked "WoW I" the most ,which is called "Vanilla".
there was WoW 1.5 and II "grindhard"
there just was WoW III called "Grindhard helper /Gearscore" mostly known as Gh/G.
now its live version is WoW IV called "item level / Azeroth sucked"
theres new version coming soonish WoW V called "Wannabe Vanilla"
Theres plenty of people who only liked Vanilla,and most of WoW peeps says it was the worse ever,only time will tell what happens next. after Wannabe Vanilla gets released.
But,im there waiting and killing everything red i see,doesnt matter which version,controls are still very accurate.
okay so obvious fandom aside, have you actually read anything from the Cataclysm post-mortem interview? They practically state they made all these problems worse in the game and then claim that it's not that bad.
In reality, they didn't put any easter eggs in the 1-60 revamp, because they did the revamp their end game was severely lacking and poorly written, because they stayed with the antique model of more bloated gear grinding they forced their players to actually NEED a tool like LFG/LFD instead of changing the game, and they didn't even touch on the problems of not having anything dynamic happening in the open world.
The entire game was built in Cataclysm to be about the end of the world, where all life was supposedly going to be snuffed out, where towns were to be obliterated, where all life outside of the chosen few were to be swept aside and yet nothing was done to implement this into the game. There was absolutely nothing in the game that made me at any time feel like my character was in danger. And let me make this clear, it wasn't done when it should have been done by funds as large as Lucas Arts funds. They make a ton of money each and every month and trust me despite their laying off of 600 people (which really wasn't necessary they just probably did it for fun at the top levels) they are still raking in big money every month worldwide.
So saying they can't do these things properly in a company this size is ridiculous and a lie.
And now someone's asking they do it all over again with a new game? hardly a good plan.
I think Blizzard has enough of a fundamental understanding of presentation and interactivity beyond that of other MMO developers to justify investing in a sequel. No, I'm not a fan of it's combat system or generic environment, but there's no arguing that the boss battles and scripted events in WoW are leagues beyond that seen in any other MMO. This is what keeps people playing- the sense of glory in managing to win one of these intricate battles against a 20 foot tall monstrosity and gaining epic loot. An updated version with a much more modernized battle system and universal voice acting could potentially be a great experience.
Of course, it could suck, but we already know Blizzard is working on another MMO so I'm willing to keep an open mind about it.
Not a warcraft clone. Original warcraft, you cant make wow clone. Wow is only one and nobody can make so good games like Blizzard. Well this games up there are good (ok ,only aion sucks ). But wow lore is something special and for years with us, from rts to mmorpg
"wow is the only one"
Have you tried wow ? theres free trial now if you havent.its sad you cant try its different versions,I liked "WoW I" the most ,which is called "Vanilla".
there was WoW 1.5 and II "grindhard"
there just was WoW III called "Gearscore"
now its live version is WoW IV called "item level / Azeroth sucked"
theres new version coming soonish WoW V called "Wannabe Vanilla"
Theres plenty of people who only liked Vanilla,and most of WoW peeps says it was the worse ever,only time will tell what happens next. after Wannabe Vanilla gets released.
But,im there waiting and killing everything red i see,doesnt matter which version,controls are still very accurate.
Well, Vanilla was for me the worst part of wow. WOTLK is by far the best part of the game for me. That amazing feeling of northern worlds and sounds of past pagan times. WOW is huge and only new wow can kill old wow. Fly< safe , or ride DUDE! Now i must subscribe again grrrrr. I want to gank ally so bad. Good thing is i need only to pay sub for swtor and wow, for eve online i have 13 plex
Not a warcraft clone. Original warcraft, you cant make wow clone. Wow is only one and nobody can make so good games like Blizzard. Well this games up there are good (ok ,only aion sucks ). But wow lore is something special and for years with us, from rts to mmorpg
"wow is the only one"
Have you tried wow ? theres free trial now if you havent.its sad you cant try its different versions,I liked "WoW I" the most ,which is called "Vanilla".
there was WoW 1.5 and II "grindhard"
there just was WoW III called "Gearscore"
now its live version is WoW IV called "item level / Azeroth sucked"
theres new version coming soonish WoW V called "Wannabe Vanilla"
Theres plenty of people who only liked Vanilla,and most of WoW peeps says it was the worse ever,only time will tell what happens next. after Wannabe Vanilla gets released.
But,im there waiting and killing everything red i see,doesnt matter which version,controls are still very accurate.
Well, Vanilla was for me the worst part of wow. WOTLK is by far the best part of the game for me. That amazing feeling of northern worlds and sounds of past pagan times. WOW is huge and only new wow can kill old wow. Fly< safe , or ride DUDE! Now i must subscribe again grrrrr. I want to gank ally so bad. Good thing is i need only to pay sub for swtor and wow, for eve online i have 13 plex
i didnt care about winds,just the amount of enemy blood my partner called Sword gets.
its not easy to choose ,i know,should i kill alliance or horde today,im pretty sure theres deeper philosophy behind this,like do i have more blue or red furniture,do i hate my blue couch today,did i sleep on it badly last night and such.
The only reason why WoW was such a hit on release was because of Warcraft 3. Blizzard should have stuck to RTS with this story because then I would have actually bought it. I have tried trials over the years for this WoW game and I don't see the fun in it because the combat is stagnant IMO and the graphics are terrible IMO. Questing is such a bore because you are just flipping through text boxes.
I guess WoW players define fun as doing something over and over again while it gets easier with each try not because of skill but just time played and character level.
What I really think Blizzard does is steal every other company's idea and put it into their game before the other company can release their game out. I remember WoW having a skill tree and then they dealt with it. So now every mage , warrior, paladin, whatever are all the same. Where is the fun in that? Aion has that very same formula for classes.
Now when I was playing a WoW trial there were skill trees. Then I played Aion which had skill trainers. I didnt want to pay a monthly fee anymore on Aion so I went back to some F2P titles. I was curious to see what WoW has done and I tried another trial and what do you know it adopted Aion's skill system.
A new WoW would be like CoD:MW3 because it would just be a game that is riding on the success of its predecesors. You say you want a new WoW. Why? Have you come to the realization that WoW was just an Everquest clone?
i would accept a new WoW with graphic update and non gear grinding progression . Even the actual WoW if they change the everyday gear grinding for something actually fun to do and different.
It is going to be a long time before you ever see a sequel to WoW. I mean their Titan project is a way's off and there simply isn't a reason for them to contemplate a sequel at this point considering how well WoW is still doing. Sure it is on a downward trend currently but it is still "King of the Hill" in the market and who knows what will happen with their next xpac.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
They made a ton of money and they still keeping making it - if players dont demand somthing new with their wallets no one will ever make it.
This is true for every thing from a complete graphic engine overhaull to completly new game play, honestly the only thing that would get me back to WoW these days is "vanilla hardcore" servers, no new mechanics, no pvp stats, no mounts with 10 tons of armor on them, no flying mounts, exploration back in game, harsher penalties, world bosses, and an actuall community
They made a ton of money and they still keeping making it - if players dont demand somthing new with their wallets no one will ever make it.
This is true for every thing from a complete graphic engine overhaull to completly new game play, honestly the only thing that would get me back to WoW these days is "vanilla hardcore" servers, no new mechanics, no pvp stats, no mounts with 10 tons of armor on them, no flying mounts, exploration back in game, harsher penalties, world bosses, and an actuall community
There are no quarantees that the next Blizzard MMO will be as popular as WoW. I actually doubt they will be able to redo the magic they had going with original WoW and its growth.The market is simply not the same today.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
There are no quarantees that the next Blizzard MMO will be as popular as WoW. I actually doubt they will be able to redo the magic they had going with original WoW and its growth.The market is simply not the same today.
There are only three reliable metrics for judging the "best MMO ever made". Those metrics are subscription numbers, profits and critical reception. Ignoring the fact that the World of Warcraft franchise is one of the best selling video games of all time >.>
Based on those metrics World of Warcraft is, indeed, the "best MMO ever made".
I'm afraid those who wish to rabidly pursue MMO like a hunter chasing down a wild board do so from a very tenuous position. The only reasonable metrics available are the ones that seem to imply the aforementioned statement regarding WoW. You are more than welcome to disregard those metrics - the only metrics (and I'll keep saying that) - at your discretion, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you wilfully ignorant.
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so many blizzard haters.
I would also like blizzard to make another mmo, as WoW has been the only one that has kept my interest for more than a year other than lineage 2.
Having said that.. WoW still has many years under its belt and I wouldn't expect them to do another mmo for a while to come.
Isn't titan an mmorpg or it's never been said? I read a little here and there but I don't recall the whispers now
I think they are already re-making WOW, though in the Sci-Fi format.
Not a warcraft clone. Original warcraft, you cant make wow clone. Wow is only one and nobody can make so good games like Blizzard. Well this games up there are good (ok ,only aion sucks ). But wow lore is something special and for years with us, from rts to mmorpg
You are right
I forgot that--you make my heart beat dude
How about ones that were based off of and meant for P&P game players like D&D and Rift (Not Rifts). With OPEN worlds where you are free to do as you please, explore huge areas and meet people along the way to adventure with, where COMMUNITY makes the game and grouping is actually done once in awhile instead of everyone ignoring everyone else because you can solo to cap, where gear isn't so important and ridiculously OP'ed, where you don't hit cap in a month or less so you can sit in a capital city spamming for groups for the high end content that no one will let you in if you don't have at least 8 pieces of Epic gear, where everything isn't instanced,...basically..everything they aren't now due to a combination of WoW's massive advertisement campaign, players from the console genre pulled in, other companies trying to copy it giving us an endless supply of hamster wheel fodder, and amazingly...people still asking for more of the same. It's like paying $50 for a game you've already beaten. Oh...and not so damn fast and easy.
They are mostly glorified console RPG's that happen to be multiplayer.....kind of. Unfortunately...other players in them just act as a bit more advanced AI since no one groups or talks to you unless they feel like berrating you as a noob or unless there is something in it for them. MMORPG's that had community..like UO and EQ..and several others that came before WoW. They could and will make a comeback at some point.
Belay my last about saying no to it. I really wouldn't care if some of you want a WoW 2...more power to you. It's the God damn companies trying to make the same damn game over and over that pisses me off. Because that is ALL we get. Wish someone could have the passion, imagination and creativity to think ouside the WoW box.
"Best" is totally subjective. A lot of people, even people who play the game, dont consider it the "best".
"Most popular" I'll give them, but popularity and quality are not the same thing.
You also have to consider the Blizzard that created WoW is not the same Blizzard of today. I've always been relatively indefferent toward the company in the past, but the current Blizzard pales in comparison to the Blizzard of 10 years ago, and the current Blizzard has been upsetting a lot of their fanbase as of recent years. So yes, I think they need to step away from MMOs and work on something else.
"wow is the only one"
Have you tried wow ? theres free trial now if you havent.its sad you cant try its different versions,I liked "WoW I" the most ,which is called "Vanilla".
there was WoW 1.5 and II "grindhard"
there just was WoW III called "Grindhard helper /Gearscore" mostly known as Gh/G.
now its live version is WoW IV called "item level / Azeroth sucked"
theres new version coming soonish WoW V called "Wannabe Vanilla"
Theres plenty of people who only liked Vanilla,and most of WoW peeps says it was the worse ever,only time will tell what happens next. after Wannabe Vanilla gets released.
But,im there waiting and killing everything red i see,doesnt matter which version,controls are still very accurate.
Let's internet
okay so obvious fandom aside, have you actually read anything from the Cataclysm post-mortem interview? They practically state they made all these problems worse in the game and then claim that it's not that bad.
In reality, they didn't put any easter eggs in the 1-60 revamp, because they did the revamp their end game was severely lacking and poorly written, because they stayed with the antique model of more bloated gear grinding they forced their players to actually NEED a tool like LFG/LFD instead of changing the game, and they didn't even touch on the problems of not having anything dynamic happening in the open world.
The entire game was built in Cataclysm to be about the end of the world, where all life was supposedly going to be snuffed out, where towns were to be obliterated, where all life outside of the chosen few were to be swept aside and yet nothing was done to implement this into the game. There was absolutely nothing in the game that made me at any time feel like my character was in danger. And let me make this clear, it wasn't done when it should have been done by funds as large as Lucas Arts funds. They make a ton of money each and every month and trust me despite their laying off of 600 people (which really wasn't necessary they just probably did it for fun at the top levels) they are still raking in big money every month worldwide.
So saying they can't do these things properly in a company this size is ridiculous and a lie.
And now someone's asking they do it all over again with a new game? hardly a good plan.
I think Blizzard has enough of a fundamental understanding of presentation and interactivity beyond that of other MMO developers to justify investing in a sequel. No, I'm not a fan of it's combat system or generic environment, but there's no arguing that the boss battles and scripted events in WoW are leagues beyond that seen in any other MMO. This is what keeps people playing- the sense of glory in managing to win one of these intricate battles against a 20 foot tall monstrosity and gaining epic loot. An updated version with a much more modernized battle system and universal voice acting could potentially be a great experience.
Of course, it could suck, but we already know Blizzard is working on another MMO so I'm willing to keep an open mind about it.
Well, Vanilla was for me the worst part of wow. WOTLK is by far the best part of the game for me. That amazing feeling of northern worlds and sounds of past pagan times. WOW is huge and only new wow can kill old wow. Fly< safe , or ride
DUDE! Now i must subscribe again grrrrr. I want to gank ally so bad. Good thing is i need only to pay sub for swtor and wow, for eve online i have 13 plex 
Did you know butterflies taste with their feet?? Also I would welcome another Blizzard game to filter out WoW gamers from Guild Wars2.
All hail the Barn Owl! oh.. and the RED SQUIRREL!!!
i didnt care about winds,just the amount of enemy blood my partner called Sword gets.
its not easy to choose ,i know,should i kill alliance or horde today,im pretty sure theres deeper philosophy behind this,like do i have more blue or red furniture,do i hate my blue couch today,did i sleep on it badly last night and such.
Let's internet
A new WoW just with a graphic update???
No thnx...i´ll pass...
soooo sick of the raid or leave mentality.
The only reason why WoW was such a hit on release was because of Warcraft 3. Blizzard should have stuck to RTS with this story because then I would have actually bought it. I have tried trials over the years for this WoW game and I don't see the fun in it because the combat is stagnant IMO and the graphics are terrible IMO. Questing is such a bore because you are just flipping through text boxes.
I guess WoW players define fun as doing something over and over again while it gets easier with each try not because of skill but just time played and character level.
What I really think Blizzard does is steal every other company's idea and put it into their game before the other company can release their game out. I remember WoW having a skill tree and then they dealt with it. So now every mage , warrior, paladin, whatever are all the same. Where is the fun in that? Aion has that very same formula for classes.
Now when I was playing a WoW trial there were skill trees. Then I played Aion which had skill trainers. I didnt want to pay a monthly fee anymore on Aion so I went back to some F2P titles. I was curious to see what WoW has done and I tried another trial and what do you know it adopted Aion's skill system.
A new WoW would be like CoD:MW3 because it would just be a game that is riding on the success of its predecesors. You say you want a new WoW. Why? Have you come to the realization that WoW was just an Everquest clone?
-I am here to perform logic
i would accept a new WoW with graphic update and non gear grinding progression . Even the actual WoW if they change the everyday gear grinding for something actually fun to do and different.
It is going to be a long time before you ever see a sequel to WoW. I mean their Titan project is a way's off and there simply isn't a reason for them to contemplate a sequel at this point considering how well WoW is still doing. Sure it is on a downward trend currently but it is still "King of the Hill" in the market and who knows what will happen with their next xpac.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Why should they?
They made a ton of money and they still keeping making it - if players dont demand somthing new with their wallets no one will ever make it.
This is true for every thing from a complete graphic engine overhaull to completly new game play, honestly the only thing that would get me back to WoW these days is "vanilla hardcore" servers, no new mechanics, no pvp stats, no mounts with 10 tons of armor on them, no flying mounts, exploration back in game, harsher penalties, world bosses, and an actuall community
I say
Please blizzard wither and die for all the vice and vile you bring to this genre!
Old PvP ranks were a nice feature ,dang it!
Let's internet
WoW has 10 million players, it's going to be a long, long time before they make a game similar to it, if at all.
I would bet my first born that WoW does not have 10 million players right now.
There are no quarantees that the next Blizzard MMO will be as popular as WoW. I actually doubt they will be able to redo the magic they had going with original WoW and its growth.The market is simply not the same today.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Bingo.
I think they know it too.
There are only three reliable metrics for judging the "best MMO ever made". Those metrics are subscription numbers, profits and critical reception. Ignoring the fact that the World of Warcraft franchise is one of the best selling video games of all time >.>
Based on those metrics World of Warcraft is, indeed, the "best MMO ever made".
I'm afraid those who wish to rabidly pursue MMO like a hunter chasing down a wild board do so from a very tenuous position. The only reasonable metrics available are the ones that seem to imply the aforementioned statement regarding WoW. You are more than welcome to disregard those metrics - the only metrics (and I'll keep saying that) - at your discretion, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you wilfully ignorant.