I dont mind when people have criticisme on a game, but i cant stand people that criticise a game based on the wrong facts or on no facts at all. I myself made some pretty large posts with critical notes, but posts like this only are created for one reason, and thats to hurt the game with misinformation.
I would say that the game is missing some fluff things, but no essentials. and that its the least buggy MMo ever to release.
People are going to macro either way. In game or not in game. All it does by not having it in game is make some people at a disadvantage for not having a NAGA and a G13.
Mounts bypass content but teleports don't?
I would keep responding to some of the stuff you said but all I see is a bunch of excuses and tongue in cheek arguments being made.
BTW "It will be fixed soon", is something most of the gamers here have heard before. Soon and working on it aren't good enough for a game that is launching in 4 weeks. If we were talking about a couple of small issues and bugs it would be one thing. But thats not what we're talking about.
I dont mind when people have criticisme on a game, but i cant stand people that criticise a game based on the wrong facts or on no facts at all. I myself made some pretty large posts with critical notes, but posts like this only are created for one reason, and thats to hurt the game with misinformation.
I would say that the game is missing some fluff things, but no essentials. and that its the least buggy MMo ever to release.
People are going to macro either way. In game or not in game. All it does by not having it in game is make some people at a disadvantage for not having a NAGA and a G13.
Mounts bypass content but teleports don't?
I would keep responding to some of the stuff you said but all I see is a bunch of excuses and tongue in cheek arguments being made.
BTW "It will be fixed soon", is something most of the gamers here have heard before. Soon and working on it aren't good enough for a game that is launching in 4 weeks. If we were talking about a couple of small issues and bugs it would be one thing. But thats not what we're talking about.
lol inbetween beta events run your client even if the game is not up.. see how often they patch, it's every couple of days at least.. just because you have heard it before doesnt mean Anet is following the same path, they actually utilise there time todo fixes and improvements
Can you give example of a macro you would like to set uo in gw2? As I see it the moves are so situational it doesn't make sense to me. You can set up custom key commands with shift/cntrl if that's what you are looking for.
I dont mind when people have criticisme on a game, but i cant stand people that criticise a game based on the wrong facts or on no facts at all. I myself made some pretty large posts with critical notes, but posts like this only are created for one reason, and thats to hurt the game with misinformation.
I would say that the game is missing some fluff things, but no essentials. and that its the least buggy MMo ever to release.
Are you saying the game has these features?
I've seen about 10 times in this thread that OP is lieing or misinfored.
I dont mind when people have criticisme on a game, but i cant stand people that criticise a game based on the wrong facts or on no facts at all. I myself made some pretty large posts with critical notes, but posts like this only are created for one reason, and thats to hurt the game with misinformation.
I would say that the game is missing some fluff things, but no essentials. and that its the least buggy MMo ever to release.
People are going to macro either way. In game or not in game. All it does by not having it in game is make some people at a disadvantage for not having a NAGA and a G13.
Mounts bypass content but teleports don't?
I would keep responding to some of the stuff you said but all I see is a bunch of excuses and tongue in cheek arguments being made.
BTW "It will be fixed soon", is something most of the gamers here have heard before. Soon and working on it aren't good enough for a game that is launching in 4 weeks. If we were talking about a couple of small issues and bugs it would be one thing. But thats not what we're talking about.
could you please outline just one useful macro you would like to make? i'm honestly having trouble understanding where you are coming from on this and this would probably enlighten me a great deal. i can't think of any i'd like to see for my personal use but maybe you could help me out on where you are coming from!
Oh I know lets create a random post listing any posible general fault of an MMO without any reasonable evidence of self-information about whats going on. that way many ppl would get pissed off!! yay!
Comon dude its as simple as looking for answers in google to notice that your complains are not relevant.... go back to WoW... personally i wont miss you... why is it so hard to ppl to admit that a game is good and its doing some things diferently but nicely....
Im not a guild wars 2 fanboy... if it where for me i would love that every game out there came out perfect... that way the desicion would be totally subjective... many good games = many good options.....
is not like blizzard is paying you to hate a game with no compeling argument...... or is it?... dont think so....
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
Well we could start with Ranger Pet swaps. Instant and provides a buff if traited. Thats an obvious macro. Engineer kit swaps, same thing. Buffs+major attack. There are plenty of macros to make if someone is looking to improve their gameplay and response time.
Oh I know lets create a random post listing any posible general fault of an MMO without any reasonable evidence of self-information about whats going on. that way many ppl would get pissed off!! yay!
Comon dude its as simple as looking for answers in google to notice that your complains are not relevant.... go back to WoW... personally i wont miss you... why is it so hard to ppl to admit that a game is good and its doing some things diferently but nicely....
Im not a guild wars 2 fanboy... if it where for me i would love that every game out there came out perfect... that way the desicion would be totally subjective... many good games = many good options.....
is not like blizzard is paying you to hate a game with no compeling argument...... or is it?... dont think so....
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
You posted a video from May 15th. Good job. I didn't have any of these issues in the betas past that. Maybe you shouldn't play a 2012 game on a 2004 POS computer and try streaming at the same time.
Well we could start with Ranger Pet swaps. Instant and provides a buff if traited. Thats an obvious macro. Engineer kit swaps, same thing. Buffs+major attack. There are plenty of macros to make if someone is looking to improve their gameplay and response time.
ir you could... do it youeself instead of letting the computer play the game for you
I dont mind when people have criticisme on a game, but i cant stand people that criticise a game based on the wrong facts or on no facts at all. I myself made some pretty large posts with critical notes, but posts like this only are created for one reason, and thats to hurt the game with misinformation.
I would say that the game is missing some fluff things, but no essentials. and that its the least buggy MMo ever to release.
Are you saying the game has these features?
I've seen about 10 times in this thread that OP is lieing or misinfored.
Atleast this post has criticisme based on facts and shared experiences of BWE players.
Keep in mind that despite my fair amount of criticisme i still beleive this is the best MMO to release in the last 8 years, and maybe even the best ever, but that needs to be prooven over the years to come.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Oh I know lets create a random post listing any posible general fault of an MMO without any reasonable evidence of self-information about whats going on. that way many ppl would get pissed off!! yay!
Comon dude its as simple as looking for answers in google to notice that your complains are not relevant.... go back to WoW... personally i wont miss you... why is it so hard to ppl to admit that a game is good and its doing some things diferently but nicely....
Im not a guild wars 2 fanboy... if it where for me i would love that every game out there came out perfect... that way the desicion would be totally subjective... many good games = many good options.....
is not like blizzard is paying you to hate a game with no compeling argument...... or is it?... dont think so....
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
You posted a video from May 15th. Good job. I didn't have any of these issues in the betas past that. Maybe you shouldn't play a 2012 game on a 2004 POS computer and try streaming at the same time.
Oh I know lets create a random post listing any posible general fault of an MMO without any reasonable evidence of self-information about whats going on. that way many ppl would get pissed off!! yay!
Comon dude its as simple as looking for answers in google to notice that your complains are not relevant.... go back to WoW... personally i wont miss you... why is it so hard to ppl to admit that a game is good and its doing some things diferently but nicely....
Im not a guild wars 2 fanboy... if it where for me i would love that every game out there came out perfect... that way the desicion would be totally subjective... many good games = many good options.....
is not like blizzard is paying you to hate a game with no compeling argument...... or is it?... dont think so....
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
You posted a video from May 15th. Good job. I didn't have any of these issues in the betas past that. Maybe you shouldn't play a 2012 game on a 2004 POS computer and try streaming at the same time.
What nonsense. The person in the video is simply nitpicking. GW2 has some of the tightest character controls I have ever experienced in an MMO. Can they be better? Absolutely but they are already a lot better than most MMOs out there.
Oh I know lets create a random post listing any posible general fault of an MMO without any reasonable evidence of self-information about whats going on. that way many ppl would get pissed off!! yay!
Comon dude its as simple as looking for answers in google to notice that your complains are not relevant.... go back to WoW... personally i wont miss you... why is it so hard to ppl to admit that a game is good and its doing some things diferently but nicely....
Im not a guild wars 2 fanboy... if it where for me i would love that every game out there came out perfect... that way the desicion would be totally subjective... many good games = many good options.....
is not like blizzard is paying you to hate a game with no compeling argument...... or is it?... dont think so....
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
You posted a video from May 15th. Good job. I didn't have any of these issues in the betas past that. Maybe you shouldn't play a 2012 game on a 2004 POS computer and try streaming at the same time.
macros? i read someone saying that the game is entirely situational... well thats true, this game its all about striking and counterstriking... but with moves adecuated to the circumstances.... and even so... if you reallly really need macros... then just download a program for that.... and set it up... is as easy as doing it in wow
I can see why the game is not charging a sub at launch. Its missing many basic QOL and functionalities of a standard MMO and its got some serious issues.
No dungeon finder.
as of right now there shouldnt be plans of it but if there are problems in the future getting groups im sure the devs will be nice and add something ..
No Macros.
if there are that many abilities that macros are needed then you must be doing something wrong ..
No mounts.
already stated will take away from the immersion of the game world and i dont think horses exist in Tyria ..
No DPS meter or at least a parsable combat log.
this is a bad bad bad thing .. people who feel they are better than others like to use this tool to kick others from groups but with GW2 there are different roles to play inside of a group not everyone is doing damage all the time so it would never reflect honestly who is doing what ..
Zones instead of an open world.
and they are some huge zones so dont worry too much about that ..
Running directx 9, in 2012. They might be updating this.
from what i know DX11 is something that is supposed to be added but DX9 will still be there for older systems .. optimization is something they are still working on ..
Clunky movement and jumping. Really noticeable when trying to do the vista achievements.
must be you cause i had no issues like this ..
Combat is a spam fest. Mash 5 keys, weapon swap, mash 5 keys rinse repeat. Definately a step sideways in combat department.
you really need to take a deeper look at the combat system and learn the "ins" and "outs" of it .. there is alot of strategy involved on when to use each ability vs another player or AI for that matter .. i always had AI running out of AoE or Wells or any ground target effects .. with utilities and and looking at different effects some abilities do it gets pretty deep on combat more than button mashing and button mashing is how you fail on a DPS meter and get kicked out of a group if there was one ..
PVE in the structured PVP matches. Thats a joke. They said they want this to be an E-Sport and they added PVE mobs that give points to a PVP match?
just like in LoL there is strategy involved with those for points .. do you cap all points and not go for bosses or try for 2 caps and 2 bosses .. makes for exciting thing to watch ..
Broken Q in sPVP. This one really irks me because this will be the second supposed "Tripple A" MMO that will launch in a year with a broken PVP Q.
im sure with this Dev team it will have most issues ironed out by release ..
Extreme FPS and lag issues in WvW. WvW is a complete zerg fest.
early on it might be a zerg fest but as players learn more on how to play and how to score you will see more roaming smaller teams capturing smaller locations .. well atleast the smart ones ..
Major bugs going on. Sigils on weapons not working right. Abilities not working. Abilities/traits/sigils with little to no description of what they actually do. Traits not working right. Ground AOE falling through the earth all over the place and not working. Ground placed items that don't work, fall through the ground.
i wouldnt call those major and i would wait to freak out till after launch and see how many issues get ironed out ..
Class balance is non existant, one class can hit for 12k and burst someone down in about 3 seconds, while other classes are completely gimp.
learn to get out of the way instead of sitting there button mashing ..
Ridiculous prices in the cash shop. In a 500 man guild? Get ready to pony up $40 on launch day to make your guild.
thats just a rediculous statement altogether and alot of untruth to it .. like someone stated before it takes gold for a guild not gems and no one is forced to buy anything in cash shop to play the game and anyone who does buy things will not have an advantage over someone who does not buy anything in the cash shop ..
Hope they can fix some of this stuff before launch, but I'm not to sure they can get even half of that stuff done. Guess we'll have to settle for another sub par MMO launch. Like I said earlier at least they aren't charging a sub.
most the stuff you listed is fluff that is not needed to make this game a great game but what you think in your own personal opinion which is just that .. your opinion .. now bug issues are something every MMO deals with on a constant basis but ANet is a very solid company and i have faith they get alot that were seen in this last beta ironed out before realease but that's not to say there may or may not be new ones come release but it's our job to not freak out over minor bugs and report em so they get fixed asap .. good thing with the way they patch is there is never any downtime from the game ..
What sort of macroing would you like? If you want to level while you sleep DarkFall is worh a look, if you just want to 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 play Rift or a WoW heal bot. Macros are for automating repetitive tasks. GW has really cut down on the repetitive tasks. Oh, if you spam skills you won't do very well at all. There really is a paradigm shift with some of the game systems.
You raise a couple of valid points but most are plain wrong or you being obtuse, (purposely I suspect).
What nonsense. The person in the video is simply nitpicking. GW2 has some of the tightest character controls I have ever experienced in an MMO. Can they be better? Absolutely but they are already a lot better than most MMOs out there.
I fplaying like that i would be dizzy in like 10 minutes. (in any game)
Personally i think they can remove most of that guys complaints by tuning down the maximum allowed camera turnrate.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
if there are that many abilities that macros are needed then you must be doing something wrong ..
Ridiculous prices in the cash shop. In a 500 man guild? Get ready to pony up $40 on launch day to make your guild.
thats just a rediculous statement altogether and alot of untruth to it .. like someone stated before it takes gold for a guild not gems and no one is forced to buy anything in cash shop to play the game and anyone who does buy things will not have an advantage over someone who does not buy anything in the cash shop ..
Yeah macros aren't about hitting 50 keys and doing a rotation, its about faster response time. Sure I could hit all 3 of my buff keys and then hit my big attack. Guess what the time it takes me to do that is gonna be about .5 seconds if I'm really fast. Macro cut that time down to about 100ms or less depending on latency.
You guys all missed the point about the guild cost. On day 1 no one is going to have enough gold to upgrade their guild up to a level that will hold 500 players. Its 4 gold and 12 silver per member to get the guild upgraded to hold 500. No one is going to remotely come close to that amount of money until at least a week after launch or more. So either A the guild doesn't get all the members in until they pull together the required money , or they have to hit up the cash shop and buy gems, then convert them to gold to make their guild and get all their friends in. Thats ridiculous and absolutely needs to be changed.
I won't say that I disagree with all of your points. I think some of those 'features' may be nice to have to some extent. Saying all that though a lot of people don't want a World of Warcraft clone, with a feature list that is just a copy paste of WoW. I think there are some issues this game will need to address overtime. If you have followed Anet at all as developers you will see that they are more active in their community than just about any video game company ever, and that they have always been willing to change things on the fly, and to try things out if they think it's not working, or if the community in mass doesn't like it's direction. If you were a part of the bwe's and read the forums much Anet employees were all over it.
After playing MMO's for 15 years (I'm only 27) I have been burned alot and I'm not willing to outright say that I think Arenanet and Guild Wars 2 will be amazing and take over my free time like other games in the past have, but I have more faith in them than I would most other companies.
Also a side note, I understand how amazing simple that the DF is in wow, it's a feature on paper, and it's great for a completely gear oriented game where the entire point of it is to farm Instances for gear. I really hope that it never finds itself in this game though. It sounds great but honestly it kills immersion, it makes it obvious that your only there for 50th time for the carrot on the end of the stick that won't drop, and it has all but completely killed the community. I haven't been on wow for a good year now, but leveling, and the first 20-30 hours at level 80 was just a single player experiance of hitting up a queue and running through very easy content in hopes of getting exp/gear. I hated it... But it was by far the best way to level, and at 80 the ONLY way to get a group. The only really solid guilds are raid guilds at this point.
I can see why the game is not charging a sub at launch. Its missing many basic QOL and functionalities of a standard MMO and its got some serious issues.
As others stated nothing is "missing" and there are no serious issues
No dungeon finder.
There is no need for a dungeon finder, dungeons are easy to find and there is no trinity, so it's a lot easier to form a team for them
No Macros.
Yes there is no way to play as a bot in the game. There are other bot games out there, this isn't one of them
No mounts.
Insta-travel Waypoints solve this. Also the devs stated they want to add mounts, but they don't want them to be like in other mmos, creatures that appear out of thin air and provide just a speed boost. I wonder why people think that is in any way immersive or important in MMOs
No DPS meter or at least a parsable combat log.
DPS meter shouldn't exist in game, period.
Zones instead of an open world.
Zones are huge, not a problem
Running directx 9, in 2012. They might be updating this.
If they can have such great graphics with direct x 9 I have no problem with it.... I've seen dx10 games that look far worse. Also, in a game with so much exploring, art direction > graphics, and the art direction is simply the best
Clunky movement and jumping. Really noticeable when trying to do the vista achievements.
People call the movement/jumping clunky, I call it realistic, there is no way a human can insta stop while moving/running. I found the game to have the best movement/jumping in years. I don't want fake movement/jumping like in other games
Combat is a spam fest. Mash 5 keys, weapon swap, mash 5 keys rinse repeat. Definately a step sideways in combat department.
Right if you are playing like that then you are doing it wrong. Maybe that's why people die in huge numbers when "hard" events start, or have issues doing their (easy) personal story, they are just mashing keys and fail
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
Just because it is missing basic things that WoW clones always include, doesnt make these things "basic" to mmorpgs. dungeon finder, macros, dps meters and mounts are hardly basic. None of these features were in gw1 nor are they needed in gw2.
PvE mobs in esport is a joke? Ever heard of DoA or League of Lengends? DERF
combat a spamfest? cool story come back when you get tired of getting your ass handed to you by players who have played the game longer than 2 hrs.
its cool. go back to wow so they can milk your wallet with yet another pointless round of tiered gear grind.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
Question for anyone, can you fire off multple utillities at the same time? Don't they que and doesn't your character have to perform said action. I see what bcbully was saying about the ranger and am not to familiar with that class but am curious as to if you can swap pets while performing other actions as well. Still trying to wrap my head around the benifit of macros.
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People are going to macro either way. In game or not in game. All it does by not having it in game is make some people at a disadvantage for not having a NAGA and a G13.
Mounts bypass content but teleports don't?
I would keep responding to some of the stuff you said but all I see is a bunch of excuses and tongue in cheek arguments being made.
BTW "It will be fixed soon", is something most of the gamers here have heard before. Soon and working on it aren't good enough for a game that is launching in 4 weeks. If we were talking about a couple of small issues and bugs it would be one thing. But thats not what we're talking about.
lol inbetween beta events run your client even if the game is not up.. see how often they patch, it's every couple of days at least.. just because you have heard it before doesnt mean Anet is following the same path, they actually utilise there time todo fixes and improvements
Can you give example of a macro you would like to set uo in gw2? As I see it the moves are so situational it doesn't make sense to me. You can set up custom key commands with shift/cntrl if that's what you are looking for.
Are you saying the game has these features?
I've seen about 10 times in this thread that OP is lieing or misinfored.
could you please outline just one useful macro you would like to make? i'm honestly having trouble understanding where you are coming from on this and this would probably enlighten me a great deal. i can't think of any i'd like to see for my personal use but maybe you could help me out on where you are coming from!
edit: daezaster beat me to it!
Well it would be easy to post sources other than my own experience. Except Anet took down the beta forums about 2 hours after the beta ended. No way to link back to posts there, no way to read them.
Best anyone can do is watch some videos and do some searches in youtube. I post a video back on page 2 showing a skill that just wasn't working at all.
If you want to see the PVP q broken in action go watch some BWE3 videos and tell me why teams sit at 2 players for a whole match while they get stomped on by 8 people.
Want to see some clunky unresponsive movement in action. Well here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyCjPOsBGgk
Well we could start with Ranger Pet swaps. Instant and provides a buff if traited. Thats an obvious macro. Engineer kit swaps, same thing. Buffs+major attack. There are plenty of macros to make if someone is looking to improve their gameplay and response time.
You posted a video from May 15th. Good job. I didn't have any of these issues in the betas past that. Maybe you shouldn't play a 2012 game on a 2004 POS computer and try streaming at the same time.
ir you could... do it youeself instead of letting the computer play the game for you
Just read my post with fair criticisme..
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/358150
Atleast this post has criticisme based on facts and shared experiences of BWE players.
Keep in mind that despite my fair amount of criticisme i still beleive this is the best MMO to release in the last 8 years, and maybe even the best ever, but that needs to be prooven over the years to come.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFRzDOzbWA&feature=plcp
are you serious, there is nothing wrong there. WHATEVER!!!!!
What nonsense. The person in the video is simply nitpicking. GW2 has some of the tightest character controls I have ever experienced in an MMO. Can they be better? Absolutely but they are already a lot better than most MMOs out there.
you need a fluffy kitten or dragon or something to ride around on [mod edit]?
Dragon has to be oiled up though.
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macros? i read someone saying that the game is entirely situational... well thats true, this game its all about striking and counterstriking... but with moves adecuated to the circumstances.... and even so... if you reallly really need macros... then just download a program for that.... and set it up... is as easy as doing it in wow
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your video made me so dizzy it should have a health warning, no one plays like that *barf*
Have fun storming the castle! - Miracle Max
You raise a couple of valid points but most are plain wrong or you being obtuse, (purposely I suspect).
I fplaying like that i would be dizzy in like 10 minutes. (in any game)
Personally i think they can remove most of that guys complaints by tuning down the maximum allowed camera turnrate.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Yeah macros aren't about hitting 50 keys and doing a rotation, its about faster response time. Sure I could hit all 3 of my buff keys and then hit my big attack. Guess what the time it takes me to do that is gonna be about .5 seconds if I'm really fast. Macro cut that time down to about 100ms or less depending on latency.
You guys all missed the point about the guild cost. On day 1 no one is going to have enough gold to upgrade their guild up to a level that will hold 500 players. Its 4 gold and 12 silver per member to get the guild upgraded to hold 500. No one is going to remotely come close to that amount of money until at least a week after launch or more. So either A the guild doesn't get all the members in until they pull together the required money , or they have to hit up the cash shop and buy gems, then convert them to gold to make their guild and get all their friends in. Thats ridiculous and absolutely needs to be changed.
I won't say that I disagree with all of your points. I think some of those 'features' may be nice to have to some extent. Saying all that though a lot of people don't want a World of Warcraft clone, with a feature list that is just a copy paste of WoW. I think there are some issues this game will need to address overtime. If you have followed Anet at all as developers you will see that they are more active in their community than just about any video game company ever, and that they have always been willing to change things on the fly, and to try things out if they think it's not working, or if the community in mass doesn't like it's direction. If you were a part of the bwe's and read the forums much Anet employees were all over it.
After playing MMO's for 15 years (I'm only 27) I have been burned alot and I'm not willing to outright say that I think Arenanet and Guild Wars 2 will be amazing and take over my free time like other games in the past have, but I have more faith in them than I would most other companies.
Also a side note, I understand how amazing simple that the DF is in wow, it's a feature on paper, and it's great for a completely gear oriented game where the entire point of it is to farm Instances for gear. I really hope that it never finds itself in this game though. It sounds great but honestly it kills immersion, it makes it obvious that your only there for 50th time for the carrot on the end of the stick that won't drop, and it has all but completely killed the community. I haven't been on wow for a good year now, but leveling, and the first 20-30 hours at level 80 was just a single player experiance of hitting up a queue and running through very easy content in hopes of getting exp/gear. I hated it... But it was by far the best way to level, and at 80 the ONLY way to get a group. The only really solid guilds are raid guilds at this point.
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
Just because it is missing basic things that WoW clones always include, doesnt make these things "basic" to mmorpgs. dungeon finder, macros, dps meters and mounts are hardly basic. None of these features were in gw1 nor are they needed in gw2.
PvE mobs in esport is a joke? Ever heard of DoA or League of Lengends? DERF
combat a spamfest? cool story come back when you get tired of getting your ass handed to you by players who have played the game longer than 2 hrs.
its cool. go back to wow so they can milk your wallet with yet another pointless round of tiered gear grind.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
Question for anyone, can you fire off multple utillities at the same time? Don't they que and doesn't your character have to perform said action. I see what bcbully was saying about the ranger and am not to familiar with that class but am curious as to if you can swap pets while performing other actions as well. Still trying to wrap my head around the benifit of macros.