I've seen that, just gonna have to wait till release. Or whenever I can get the first free trial of it. Right now im Patching for AO... Despite all the bad things I hear about EQ2, I DL'd the free trial for it earlier in the morning and tried it for myself, Only to realize what everyone was saying was so true. I've almost loaded SB back up about 20times today. But keep reminding myself of the low server pops.
For one its a chore to find a game that suits me, the second thing is convincing my buds that I've been playing with since SWG release that WoW sucks and its time to move on. lolz.
I'd like to see something implemented in order to create more of a reason for PvP. Be it something extravagant like Races owning castles and having to protect them. Or Guild vs. Guild for bragging rights and control of certain areas. To something less sophisticated like "energy stones" When a player dies the player that kills him can take the players "energy stone" which can give the holder a boost in either stats or the ability to apply it toward a talent or something. A player could carry as many of these as he/she could hold and aquire godlike levels. But once this player dies the stones are returned to the owner of them.
I just think that a short lived fame feature adds nothing to the already boring and useless PvP
I don't care for WoW pvp. For me the ideal pvp changes they would need would be if say they did some sort of penalizing for high levels going after low levels (problem in most pvp games I've ever tried). Make pvp kills give level based experience and maybe not loot peoples stuff but at least have a loot table so pvp kills drop any of the random stuff that mobs of that level would drop. And one other thing, if they made pvp at least race based if not ffa since it seems to be only Horde vs Alliance right now.
Originally posted by UbiNax they should just make so you drop your inventory when you die to another player MvH UbiNax
That would be horrible... And any game that has a PVP system like that would be doomed to fail.. I can just see it now 30 DIE, Blood Legion, Team ICE (insert uber guild here) camping spots killing the helpless groups/soloers/who ever as they try to quest, mission, instance...Nothing like spending months getting your class set items and then loose it because you got ganked by 30 people....Thats just retarded...
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by UbiNax they should just make so you drop your inventory when you die to another player MvH UbiNax
That would be horrible... And any game that has a PVP system like that would be doomed to fail.. I can just see it now 30 DIE, Blood Legion, Team ICE (insert uber guild here) camping spots killing the helpless groups/soloers/who ever as they try to quest, mission, instance...Nothing like spending months getting your class set items and then loose it because you got ganked by 30 people....Thats just retarded...
yea i said the thing whit CoV, anyways you loose all the things you got in your Inventory in Shadowbane and thats a crasy REEEAAL hardcore pvp game .. soo cool pvp
Why dont they just bring back the glory days.. Back when the WORLD was a battleground. You didnt have to wait in a line for days to find pvp. PvP would find you. Whether it be another person in the area that doesnt want to share those centaurs, or the massive warzone that was hillsbrad. Back when those warzones could make even the most creatively and morally bankrupt person want to write a poem about their tears of joy. Back when you could say you captured the crossroads for a while. Back when the music playing in your head still played on after the battle faded. The 24/7 battleground that was world.. of Warcraft.
People didnt pvp for rewards. They pvped for FUN! They pvped for their lowbies right to level. They pvped.. for REAL honor. For bragging rights and for the glory of the combat. The total, screen covering, massive, torrent of horde and alliance mixed together like a pair of wasp swarms in a tornado. Advancing and being forced to retreat. The real glory of battle, the way warcraft was MEANT to be.
Post after post of bad grammar and spelling. One of the reasons i left WoW. A poor community. I think the PvP is fun, only if you have great gear, and aren't being attacked constantly by a PC 8 level's higher than you farming armor. Average PvP, let us at least loot uncommon and rare items from awesome PvP encounters.
Originally posted by DigableD >.< so much for decent grammar, i meant farming honor. v_v
Plus you may want to insert a comma instead of a period between WOW and A otherwise it is an incomplete sentence. Also 1 run on sentence in the paragraph, but hey who cares right?
.....not to mention just cover it up with an edit!
The pvp-system in WoW is barely worth the name pvp. You cannot lose anything, so what's the point? The world is static, you neither gain influence or change the world when winning nor do you lose anything at all when getting killed.
Originally posted by Lovan The pvp-system in WoW is barely worth the name pvp. You cannot lose anything, so what's the point? The world is static, you neither gain influence or change the world when winning nor do you lose anything at all when getting killed. completely pointless in my eyes
Originally posted by Lovan The pvp-system in WoW is barely worth the name pvp. You cannot lose anything, so what's the point? The world is static, you neither gain influence or change the world when winning nor do you lose anything at all when getting killed.
completely pointless in my eyes
It's no more pointless than when I play a pick-up soccer game. I don't play to receive some trophy or money, I play to have fun.
Play Eve Online if you want a PvP system like that. Unfortunatley, you'll have to spend a bazillion hours of utter boredom for the few minutes of PvP goodness. My suggestion if you're going to play Eve, put a tv in the room. ^_^
Ico Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
I prefer fantasy games. So I rather play games like Tibia where pvp means something. You do not change the world but when you get killed you lose something, you lose experience, skills, items ... that's the thrill I like, motivation to win. Well, the graphics are not as cool as in WoW, in fact the whole game is really oldscool - but the pvp-system is really appealling.
I really wish that WoW will be one day less casual but more challenging, especially the pvp.
I gotta admit I was against WoW at first, but I gave it a try nonetheless, especially since I got bored with DaoC a bit, and I heard WoW was going to have the "uber" PvP system...
But when I saw the PvP WoW had to offer, it was just plain pathetic...If you like the kind of PvP WoW has to offer, I recommend you go play counterstrike, for better graphics and NO monthly fee, and actually more options.
Note that my view on the WoW PvP system might be distorted by the fact I played daoc (and play it again ) nearly since release. No PVP system is going to beat DaoC's RVR, IMHO. (well, except maybe for Warhammer online )
------------------------------------------ Basil Fawlty: [to telephone operator] I've been trying to get through to the speaking clock... Well, it's engaged... Well, it's been engaged for ten minutes. How is this possible? My wife isn't talking to it.
Originally posted by Avitu Note that my view on the WoW PvP system might be distorted by the fact I played daoc (and play it again ) nearly since release. No PVP system is going to beat DaoC's RVR, IMHO. (well, except maybe for Warhammer online )
didn't they stop making warhammer online or?? they startet again???!?!?!? would be Really nice!
Originally posted by Avitu No PVP system is going to beat DaoC's RVR, IMHO. (well, except maybe for Warhammer online )
City of Villians, Dark and Light, and Age of Conan will all have RVR basicly and all these games offer graphics that will blow DAOC out of the water.. Plus City of Villians has the best Combat so far of any MMORPG ever made (so far)... I agree that DAOC had the best PVP system but these are a few games that will be giving its outdated ass a run for its money.. Notice nothing was mentioned about World of Warcrap.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by Avitu No PVP system is going to beat DaoC's RVR, IMHO. (well, except maybe for Warhammer online )
City of Villians, Dark and Light, and Age of Conan will all have RVR basicly and all these games offer graphics that will blow DAOC out of the water.. Plus City of Villians has the best Combat so far of any MMORPG ever made (so far)... I agree that DAOC had the best PVP system but these are a few games that will be giving its outdated ass a run for its money.. Notice nothing was mentioned about World of Warcrap.
lol roflimao ^^ i will remember that one in the future " world of Warcrap haha
well yea i think CoV will be really nice pvp ( ive already preordered it ^^)
Originally posted by manhelp umm i cant eithen understand your absolutely sucky english i mean if your gonna be spazzy about something atleast spell graphics correctly and your gramar sounds like it comes from a turks ass
a turks ass? what makes you think turks spell worse than other people who speak esl, and you spelled grammar wrong. Can't believe we're still having racism up to date. Well, if I'm the only one to comment on this there's not much to say, and about th epvp system, I thinks It's not that bad but wow is a solid game, sutff doesnt feel loose wehn youre playing it, so I really cant say it an unsuccessful game in general.
I found the pvp in WoW to be lacking. It required no skill (OMG I CAN SPAM FROST SHOCK WITH 10 OTHER PEOPLE AND WIN!!!!). Of course they nerfed frost shock, but you know what im talking about. The only time you get big fights outside of BG's are at towns, and then everyone runs back into town.
Personally I did NOT Like the combat at all. It was one of the worst ive ever played with. And it was graphically lacking in animation. BORING. Maybe if they combat system was more interesting i'd enjoy the pvp also, but I didnt.
Originally posted by IcoGames I may be wrong, but I thought CoV pvp was going to be in the form of duels, etc.
CoV PvP is a mandatory RvR system if you want to access the top of the PvE system or anything else.
Which is extremely poor design IMO, but NCsoft is kinda corrupting all it game with the same mentality, which is a mistake. AA, Lineage and Lineage 2, CoV...all the same mentality, all the same mistake.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
If only your PvP title would not decay SO fast, and you could attack your own side. I have to say PvP raiding was pretty fun, damn fun for the most part. Shamans were a bit too tuff, mages and rogues also. Priests deserve some sort of root spell, shackle undead sucks ass and rarely works.
All in all, I would give WoWs PvP a 7 out of 10. Very fun, just not terribly well balanced.
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I've seen that, just gonna have to wait till release. Or whenever I can get the first free trial of it. Right now im Patching for AO... Despite all the bad things I hear about EQ2, I DL'd the free trial for it earlier in the morning and tried it for myself, Only to realize what everyone was saying was so true. I've almost loaded SB back up about 20times today. But keep reminding myself of the low server pops.
For one its a chore to find a game that suits me, the second thing is convincing my buds that I've been playing with since SWG release that WoW sucks and its time to move on. lolz.
I'd like to see something implemented in order to create more of a reason for PvP. Be it something extravagant like Races owning castles and having to protect them. Or Guild vs. Guild for bragging rights and control of certain areas. To something less sophisticated like "energy stones" When a player dies the player that kills him can take the players "energy stone" which can give the holder a boost in either stats or the ability to apply it toward a talent or something. A player could carry as many of these as he/she could hold and aquire godlike levels. But once this player dies the stones are returned to the owner of them.
I just think that a short lived fame feature adds nothing to the already boring and useless PvP
very nice, its raid system works a treat
GW pvp system is better though :P
I don't care for WoW pvp. For me the ideal pvp changes they would need would be if say they did some sort of penalizing for high levels going after low levels (problem in most pvp games I've ever tried). Make pvp kills give level based experience and maybe not loot peoples stuff but at least have a loot table so pvp kills drop any of the random stuff that mobs of that level would drop. And one other thing, if they made pvp at least race based if not ffa since it seems to be only Horde vs Alliance right now.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
they should just make so you drop your inventory when you die to another player
MvH UbiNax
That would be horrible... And any game that has a PVP system like that would be doomed to fail.. I can just see it now 30 DIE, Blood Legion, Team ICE (insert uber guild here) camping spots killing the helpless groups/soloers/who ever as they try to quest, mission, instance...Nothing like spending months getting your class set items and then loose it because you got ganked by 30 people....Thats just retarded...
As someone said before COV http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2976555&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2976555 seems to have the right idea and looks to have a fantastic MEANINGFULL PVP system... other games with stellar PVP systems compared to WOW are Age of Conan, and Dark and LIght.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
That would be horrible... And any game that has a PVP system like that would be doomed to fail.. I can just see it now 30 DIE, Blood Legion, Team ICE (insert uber guild here) camping spots killing the helpless groups/soloers/who ever as they try to quest, mission, instance...Nothing like spending months getting your class set items and then loose it because you got ganked by 30 people....Thats just retarded...
As someone said before COV http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2976555&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#2976555 seems to have the right idea and looks to have a fantastic MEANINGFULL PVP system... other games with stellar PVP systems compared to WOW are Age of Conan, and Dark and LIght.
yea i said the thing whit CoV, anyways you loose all the things you got in your Inventory in Shadowbane and thats a crasy REEEAAL hardcore pvp game .. soo cool pvp
Why dont they just bring back the glory days.. Back when the WORLD was a battleground. You didnt have to wait in a line for days to find pvp. PvP would find you. Whether it be another person in the area that doesnt want to share those centaurs, or the massive warzone that was hillsbrad. Back when those warzones could make even the most creatively and morally bankrupt person want to write a poem about their tears of joy. Back when you could say you captured the crossroads for a while. Back when the music playing in your head still played on after the battle faded. The 24/7 battleground that was world.. of Warcraft.
People didnt pvp for rewards. They pvped for FUN! They pvped for their lowbies right to level. They pvped.. for REAL honor. For bragging rights and for the glory of the combat. The total, screen covering, massive, torrent of horde and alliance mixed together like a pair of wasp swarms in a tornado. Advancing and being forced to retreat. The real glory of battle, the way warcraft was MEANT to be.
Brings a tear to my eye..
Im not anti social, im just pro solitude!
Post after post of bad grammar and spelling. One of the reasons i left WoW. A poor community. I think the PvP is fun, only if you have great gear, and aren't being attacked constantly by a PC 8 level's higher than you farming armor. Average PvP, let us at least loot uncommon and rare items from awesome PvP encounters.
ya Dig?
>.< so much for decent grammar, i meant farming honor. v_v
The pvp-system in WoW is barely worth the name pvp. You cannot lose anything, so what's the point? The world is static, you neither gain influence or change the world when winning nor do you lose anything at all when getting killed.
completely pointless in my eyes
It's no more pointless than when I play a pick-up soccer game. I don't play to receive some trophy or money, I play to have fun.
Play Eve Online if you want a PvP system like that. Unfortunatley, you'll have to spend a bazillion hours of utter boredom for the few minutes of PvP goodness. My suggestion if you're going to play Eve, put a tv in the room. ^_^
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
I prefer fantasy games. So I rather play games like Tibia where pvp means something. You do not change the world but when you get killed you lose something, you lose experience, skills, items ... that's the thrill I like, motivation to win.
Well, the graphics are not as cool as in WoW, in fact the whole game is really oldscool - but the pvp-system is really appealling.
I really wish that WoW will be one day less casual but more challenging, especially the pvp.
I gotta admit I was against WoW at first, but I gave it a try nonetheless, especially since I got bored with DaoC a bit, and I heard WoW was going to have the "uber" PvP system...
But when I saw the PvP WoW had to offer, it was just plain pathetic...If you like the kind of PvP WoW has to offer, I recommend you go play counterstrike, for better graphics and NO monthly fee, and actually more options.
Note that my view on the WoW PvP system might be distorted by the fact I played daoc (and play it again
) nearly since release. No PVP system is going to beat DaoC's RVR, IMHO. (well, except maybe for Warhammer online 
)
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Basil Fawlty: [to telephone operator] I've been trying to get through to the speaking clock... Well, it's engaged... Well, it's been engaged for ten minutes. How is this possible? My wife isn't talking to it.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
lol roflimao ^^ i will remember that one in the future
well yea i think CoV will be really nice pvp ( ive already preordered it ^^)
a turks ass? what makes you think turks spell worse than other people who speak esl, and you spelled grammar wrong. Can't believe we're still having racism up to date. Well, if I'm the only one to comment on this there's not much to say, and about th epvp system, I thinks It's not that bad but wow is a solid game, sutff doesnt feel loose wehn youre playing it, so I really cant say it an unsuccessful game in general.
manhelp you make me want to defenestrate myself
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I may be wrong, but I thought CoV pvp was going to be in the form of duels, etc.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
I found the pvp in WoW to be lacking. It required no skill (OMG I CAN SPAM FROST SHOCK WITH 10 OTHER PEOPLE AND WIN!!!!). Of course they nerfed frost shock, but you know what im talking about. The only time you get big fights outside of BG's are at towns, and then everyone runs back into town.
Personally I did NOT Like the combat at all. It was one of the worst ive ever played with. And it was graphically lacking in animation. BORING. Maybe if they combat system was more interesting i'd enjoy the pvp also, but I didnt.
CoV PvP is a mandatory RvR system if you want to access the top of the PvE system or anything else.
Which is extremely poor design IMO, but NCsoft is kinda corrupting all it game with the same mentality, which is a mistake. AA, Lineage and Lineage 2, CoV...all the same mentality, all the same mistake.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
If only your PvP title would not decay SO fast, and you could attack your own side. I have to say PvP raiding was pretty fun, damn fun for the most part. Shamans were a bit too tuff, mages and rogues also. Priests deserve some sort of root spell, shackle undead sucks ass and rarely works.
All in all, I would give WoWs PvP a 7 out of 10. Very fun, just not terribly well balanced.