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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    It is unbelievable how a rgraphics card that cost around $1000 can't do stuff a card that costs half can.
    How long have you bought your system? .
    I would change the gtx690 for 2 gtx680 or 2 7970GE

    I got the system in October 2012, and the card can do everything the other cards can, it's just that if you want the most performance of that card in dual-GPU mode outside of surround, then you have to use 3 monitors. And I'd still rather have the 690 than those other cards in SLI, as the 680 in SLI would cap me at only 4 monitors, and I won't likely need more than 5 monitors (my current cap) until Nvidia is out with cards with 6 ports anyway (which I'd buy the cheapest one of and replace the 8800), making the difference between the 7970 and the 690 a potential of 6 monitors vs 9.

    It can do everything that other cards can do, except for running lots of monitors.  That is, it can do everything except for what you need.

    This is why you ask what to buy before you make a purchase, rather than buying something random and hoping it's good.  Well, you personally don't, but it's why you should.  Had you said that you wanted to run a lot of monitors and asked what to get, you would have been pointed very strongly toward a Radeon HD 7970 or 7970 GHz Edition, or possibly two of them.  And a motherboard with appropriate slot spacing to actually use two video cards at once.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Have you changed the camera turning speed?

    I'm not sure what the camera turning speed option in Guild Wars 2 even does.  With the slider all the way to the left, the camera whips around suddenly at random times.  And with the slider all the way to the right, the camera still whips around suddenly at random times.  Maybe it only affects situations where the camera doesn't decide to whip around suddenly at random times--that is, the situations where it doesn't matter so much how fast the camera is turning.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Does crossfire work on window mode now?
    It didn't use to so the best option would be 2 gtx680 in sli - which cost the same and perform the same as a gtx690 and can do 4 independent screens in sli.

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  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Does crossfire work on window mode now?
    It didn't use to so the best option would be 2 gtx680 in sli - which cost the same and perform the same as a gtx690 and can do 4 independent screens in sli.

    Don't know if it works or not, but whether it does or doesn't, the 690 is better than the 7970 Crossfire and 680 SLI, as there's more monitor potential in all cases, as I explained.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Does crossfire work on window mode now?
    It didn't use to so the best option would be 2 gtx680 in sli - which cost the same and perform the same as a gtx690 and can do 4 independent screens in sli.

    Don't know if it works or not, but whether it does or doesn't, the 690 is better than the 7970 Crossfire and 680 SLI, as there's more monitor potential in all cases, as I explained.

    If the problems you're having with four monitors constitute "more monitor potential" than 6 monitors independently doing whatever you want, as a 7970 can do, then why did you start this thread?

    You can "maximize" a window to fill one monitor, and then have the rest do whatever you want.  I do that all the time with my (two monitor) setup, though I don't use CrossFire or SLI.  Because I actually care about reliability.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If the problems you're having with four monitors constitute "more monitor potential" than 6 monitors independently doing whatever you want, as a 7970 can do, then why did you start this thread?

    You can "maximize" a window to fill one monitor, and then have the rest do whatever you want.  I do that all the time with my (two monitor) setup, though I don't use CrossFire or SLI.  Because I actually care about reliability.

    I can't understand what you're saying or asking from that wording.

  • RaunuRaunu Member UncommonPosts: 480

    Go on, keep ignoring those "remove the 8800" posts. You really don't have many options left open to you, so I'd try it if I were you.   Remove the 8800 and update your drivers. It'll take 5 minutes.

     

    If it doesn't work, pop the 8800 back in and put the old drivers back on. An additional 5 minutes.

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
    Does crossfire work on window mode now?
    It didn't use to so the best option would be 2 gtx680 in sli - which cost the same and perform the same as a gtx690 and can do 4 independent screens in sli.

    Don't know if it works or not, but whether it does or doesn't, the 690 is better than the 7970 Crossfire and 680 SLI, as there's more monitor potential in all cases, as I explained.

    If what you want is loads of monitors a single 7970 can run 6 independent monitors. And you can run bot2 of them in crossfire for same or higher performance than a GTX690.

    http://www.amd.com/uk/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/for-consumers/Pages/what-is-eyefinity.aspx

    Expand your view of gaming, productivity, and entertainment and discover a new realm of panoramic computing with AMD Eyefinity multiple-display technology.1, 2  AMD Eyefinity Technology enables a single GPU to support up to six independent display outputs simultaneously. Boost everyday multitasking with a vastly expanded visual workspace. Intensify gaming with ultra-immersive environments. Expand your entertainment landscape with a breathtaking field-of-view. With easy configuration and flexible upgradeability, the innovative capabilities of AMD Eyefinity technology adds a new "surround-sight" sensation to your PC experience.

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If the problems you're having with four monitors constitute "more monitor potential" than 6 monitors independently doing whatever you want, as a 7970 can do, then why did you start this thread?

    You can "maximize" a window to fill one monitor, and then have the rest do whatever you want.  I do that all the time with my (two monitor) setup, though I don't use CrossFire or SLI.  Because I actually care about reliability.

    I can't understand what you're saying or asking from that wording.

    Multi GPU as good as it is, is more complex, so it has a higher chance of problems.

    Many people (amongst the crazy that spend crazy amounts of money in GPUs) will pay the same $1000 for a Geforce Titan over a GTX690, even though the GTX690 is 35%+ faster than a Titan, since it allows them to dodge the multi gpu problems.

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  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237

    From what I can gather the stutter problem persists no matter what configuration he uses. With or without the added 7800/8800.

    I would personally remove a card that old from that system regardless.

    But I think the problem is in the drivers and SLI 690. I had the same problem with a couple of games when I had an SLI rig years ago. If everything else runs fine and you only have this problem with GW2 then you may just have to live with it. I dont think there is an easy fix on your end. And as you have already seen changing configurations, hardware, ect to try and fix a minor problem for one game isnt worth it usually.

    Thats my opinion, take it for what its worth.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    If what you want is loads of monitors a single 7970 can run 6 independent monitors. And you can run bot2 of them in crossfire for same or higher performance than a GTX690.

    http://www.amd.com/uk/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/for-consumers/Pages/what-is-eyefinity.aspx

    Expand your view of gaming, productivity, and entertainment and discover a new realm of panoramic computing with AMD Eyefinity multiple-display technology.1, 2  AMD Eyefinity Technology enables a single GPU to support up to six independent display outputs simultaneously. Boost everyday multitasking with a vastly expanded visual workspace. Intensify gaming with ultra-immersive environments. Expand your entertainment landscape with a breathtaking field-of-view. With easy configuration and flexible upgradeability, the innovative capabilities of AMD Eyefinity technology adds a new "surround-sight" sensation to your PC experience.

    For the third time, as I explained in my previous post, the 690 has more monitor potential than the 7970 in Crossfire with 6 monitors, as the 690 allows me to add an addition card into my system, allowing me to exceed the 6 monitor cap the 7970 in Crossfire would give me. The 690 gives me the most power per monitor potential tradeoff, and is thusly the superior option.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    Multi GPU as good as it is, is more complex, so it has a higher chance of problems.

    Many people (amongst the crazy that spend crazy amounts of money in GPUs) will pay the same $1000 for a Geforce Titan over a GTX690, even though the GTX690 is 35%+ faster than a Titan, since it allows them to dodge the multi gpu problems.

    The high performance increase is worth the chance of problems.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    If what you want is loads of monitors a single 7970 can run 6 independent monitors. And you can run bot2 of them in crossfire for same or higher performance than a GTX690.

    http://www.amd.com/uk/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/for-consumers/Pages/what-is-eyefinity.aspx

    Expand your view of gaming, productivity, and entertainment and discover a new realm of panoramic computing with AMD Eyefinity multiple-display technology.1, 2  AMD Eyefinity Technology enables a single GPU to support up to six independent display outputs simultaneously. Boost everyday multitasking with a vastly expanded visual workspace. Intensify gaming with ultra-immersive environments. Expand your entertainment landscape with a breathtaking field-of-view. With easy configuration and flexible upgradeability, the innovative capabilities of AMD Eyefinity technology adds a new "surround-sight" sensation to your PC experience.

    For the third time, as I explained in my previous post, the 690 has more monitor potential than the 7970 in Crossfire with 6 monitors, as the 690 allows me to add an addition card into my system, allowing me to exceed the 6 monitor cap the 7970 in Crossfire would give me. The 690 gives me the most power per monitor potential tradeoff, and is thusly the superior option.

    And as others have told you the tradeoff for having an unconventional setup can be problems with some games and applications. If you want some exotic command center in a strange configuration then dont expect everything to run perfectly.

    I run an I5 and a 7870. It runs the shit out of GW2 with zero problems. Something in your command center doesnt jibe with GW2 for whatever reason. Thats the price of having the command center I suppose.

  • GroovyFlowerGroovyFlower Member Posts: 1,245
    Originally posted by Wootloops

    I have a six core i7-3930k, a GTX 690, 16 GB of RAM, and an SSD, and for some reason the game is just choppy and slow, most noticeably if I spin around really fast, causing everything to lock up for like half a second.

    I turned off dual GPU mode for the 690, turned off windowed mode for the game, and tried messing with the graphics settings but nothing really helped.

    Maybe it's my Nvidia drivers, as I'm stuck on 307.74 because I use a second 7800 GTX card for extra monitors, and that's the last driver to support that card, but these drivers came out well after Guild Wars 2 was released.

    With all graphics settings maxed (No vertical sync), running in a straight line in the Azura starting area I get like 45-60 FPS depending on the area, and as soon as I start even slightly turning, it drops to 25-45 FPS.

    I feel like I should be getting better results with my specs.

    Ive got a 3770k and amd 7970 16gb platiunum corsair ddr 3 1800mhz OCZ 256 gb ssd so i hav inferior PC compares to you and have 100fps seems something wrong with your pc maybe buy new one i say ?

    FPS btw almost dont change with more players and spells it all keep running flawlessly no framerate problems at all.

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Just curious... what's the point of having so many monitors then if not for surround gaming?

    Multitasking. Currently I have it set up as such:

    Left monitor: World of Warcraft, Mumble, Sticky Notes, my twitter app, and my chat windows.

    Center monitor: Guild Wars 2, my video player (Game of Thrones), and one of my browser windows.

    Right monitor: Second browser window.

    Above monitor: Assortment of pictures, a looping slideshow, and a looping video of hot girls.

    And I always run out of room too. The command center is never complete.

    Really? This was on Page 2 of this thread and you continue to take this guy serious? He needs an additional 7800/8800 card to run looping slideshows of hot girls.

    I feel sorry for everyone that tried to help this "power user" with his "command center".

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  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by jdnewell

    And as others have told you the tradeoff for having an unconventional setup can be problems with some games and applications. If you want some exotic command center in a strange configuration then dont expect everything to run perfectly.

    I run an I5 and a 7870. It runs the shit out of GW2 with zero problems. Something in your command center doesnt jibe with GW2 for whatever reason. Thats the price of having the command center I suppose.

    I don't expect everything to run perfect, I agree with your post above this one. 'tis worth the price.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

    For the third time, as I explained in my previous post, the 690 has more monitor potential than the 7970 in Crossfire with 6 monitors, as the 690 allows me to add an addition card into my system, allowing me to exceed the 6 monitor cap the 7970 in Crossfire would give me. The 690 gives me the most power per monitor potential tradeoff, and is thusly the superior option.

    2x7970 means the potential to plug 12 screens. You'd have understood that if you bothered reading and understanding what several people have been telling you.

    It is not I who isn't bothering to read and understand, but all others. I am an open book who listens to all my fellow beings have to say, but you can go back through the thread if you'd like and count how many times I've said "as I've said before", etc; and just look at the post you're responding to, where I'm explaining something for the third time to someone. And to that point, I mentioned that someone said you could use 12 in Crossfire the first time I explained how the 690 was better, and I said that it's probably not true, especially because most people here seem to be talking out of their feet and have never even used SLI or Crossfire before; they lack the life experience that I have. But if it is true, then yes, I should have gotten those, however if one is to make such grand and fantastical claims about reality, one must provide evidence for its truth.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Just curious... what's the point of having so many monitors then if not for surround gaming?

    Multitasking. Currently I have it set up as such:

    Left monitor: World of Warcraft, Mumble, Sticky Notes, my twitter app, and my chat windows.

    Center monitor: Guild Wars 2, my video player (Game of Thrones), and one of my browser windows.

    Right monitor: Second browser window.

    Above monitor: Assortment of pictures, a looping slideshow, and a looping video of hot girls.

    And I always run out of room too. The command center is never complete.

    Really? This was on Page 2 of this thread and you continue to take this guy serious? He needs an additional 7800/8800 card to run looping slideshows of hot girls.

    I feel sorry for everyone that tried to help this "power user" with his "command center".

    I sense jealousy in you my child. Your girlfriend looks the same everyday, and you have to take her out to eat and pretend to like talking her. Meanwhile, with my computer being my girlfriend, she can be multiple girls at once, and I can even play World of Warcraft on her. A superior state of affairs, you would no doubt agree.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
    Just curious... what's the point of having so many monitors then if not for surround gaming?

    Multitasking. Currently I have it set up as such:

    Left monitor: World of Warcraft, Mumble, Sticky Notes, my twitter app, and my chat windows.

    Center monitor: Guild Wars 2, my video player (Game of Thrones), and one of my browser windows.

    Right monitor: Second browser window.

    Above monitor: Assortment of pictures, a looping slideshow, and a looping video of hot girls.

    And I always run out of room too. The command center is never complete.

    Really? This was on Page 2 of this thread and you continue to take this guy serious? He needs an additional 7800/8800 card to run looping slideshows of hot girls.

    I feel sorry for everyone that tried to help this "power user" with his "command center".

    I sense jealousy in you my child. Your girlfriend looks the same everyday, and you have to take her out to eat and pretend to like talking her. Meanwhile, with my computer being my girlfriend, she can be multiple girls at once, and I can even play World of Warcraft on her. A superior state of affairs, you would no doubt agree.

    So in essence your 4th monitor is basically used to watch porn while playing MMO's. And honestly you really should exit the command center and actually find a real girl. I think you may find the computer makes a very poor substitute. There is a big difference in watching girls and actually being with one my friend.

    Good luck to you.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    If what you want is loads of monitors a single 7970 can run 6 independent monitors. And you can run bot2 of them in crossfire for same or higher performance than a GTX690.

    http://www.amd.com/uk/products/technologies/amd-eyefinity-technology/for-consumers/Pages/what-is-eyefinity.aspx

    Expand your view of gaming, productivity, and entertainment and discover a new realm of panoramic computing with AMD Eyefinity multiple-display technology.1, 2  AMD Eyefinity Technology enables a single GPU to support up to six independent display outputs simultaneously. Boost everyday multitasking with a vastly expanded visual workspace. Intensify gaming with ultra-immersive environments. Expand your entertainment landscape with a breathtaking field-of-view. With easy configuration and flexible upgradeability, the innovative capabilities of AMD Eyefinity technology adds a new "surround-sight" sensation to your PC experience.

    For the third time, as I explained in my previous post, the 690 has more monitor potential than the 7970 in Crossfire with 6 monitors, as the 690 allows me to add an addition card into my system, allowing me to exceed the 6 monitor cap the 7970 in Crossfire would give me. The 690 gives me the most power per monitor potential tradeoff, and is thusly the superior option.

    No.

    The most you can run is 8 with 2 GTX690 but only with SLI off. And has we have seen you can't run 4 monitors from a GTX690 running multi GPU.

    So 8 monitors but half performance compared to crossfire with 6 monitors.

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  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter

    No.

    The most you can run is 8 with 2 GTX690 but only with SLI off. And has we have seen you can't run 4 monitors from a GTX690 running multi GPU.

    So 8 monitors but half performance compared to crossfire with 6 monitors.

    Explaining my original post for the 4th time: With SLI active on the 690, I can get 7 monitors currently, 3 from the 690, and 4 from an additional card. That's one more than the 7970 in Crossfire. And as I explained in my post, by the time I wish to exceed 5 monitors which I'm capped at with my 8800 GTX, Nvidia will be out with cards with 6 port cards, increasing my capacity to 9 with the 690 with SLI active versus 6 with the 7970 in Crossfire.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by jdnewell

    So in essence your 4th monitor is basically used to watch porn while playing MMO's. And honestly you really should exit the command center and actually find a real girl. I think you may find the computer makes a very poor substitute. There is a big difference in watching girls and actually being with one my friend.

    Good luck to you.

    Find a real girl, and risk pregnancy and AIDS? I don't think so.

  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    Originally posted by Wootloops
    Originally posted by jdnewell

    So in essence your 4th monitor is basically used to watch porn while playing MMO's. And honestly you really should exit the command center and actually find a real girl. I think you may find the computer makes a very poor substitute. There is a big difference in watching girls and actually being with one my friend.

    Good luck to you.

    Find a real girl, and risk pregnancy and AIDS? I don't think so.

    Ok really?!?!

    You do understand that there are ways to avoid both right? The main one being AIDS which can be avoided by not picking up a street walker and actually interacting with females with character and morales. Pregnancy can be avoided in a multitude of ways which most people outside of the command center use daily.

    Dude if your happy sitting in the command center watching porn while playing video games then more power to you I say. Whatever makes you happy and gets you through the day. But to actually believe that is a superior state is just delusional and sad really.

    I wish you luck friend.

  • WootloopsWootloops Member UncommonPosts: 165
    Originally posted by jdnewell

    Ok really?!?!

    You do understand that there are ways to avoid both right? The main one being AIDS which can be avoided by not picking up a street walker and actually interacting with females with character and morales. Pregnancy can be avoided in a multitude of ways which most people outside of the command center use daily.

    Dude if your happy sitting in the command center watching porn while playing video games then more power to you I say. Whatever makes you happy and gets you through the day. But to actually believe that is a superior state is just delusional and sad really.

    I wish you luck friend.

    Relax brah it was a joke. Good heavens.

  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    7990 6 monitors, similar performance.
    Add another card for 6 extra monitors.

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