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Who is actually going to preorder
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Who is actually going to preorder without playing the game first. Maybe if you were in beta and liked the game then yes, But most of us haven't even played the game and yet they put the preorder date on nov 24-dec 4. Sog doesn't even start till dec 8 why would they have us preorder something we haven't even played, some is wrong here. Anyone who preorders with out playing the game is pretty dumb especially when its a $60 preorder like this,I bet if it was only $10-20 many people would be preordering but $60 for preordering something that no one has played yet thats pretty crazy.
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Forgot hers the link http://www.darkandlight.net/pioneer/indexEN.html#pv
No, its not dumb to preorder
If you preorder, you will get to transfer all your gold into the released version of the game
plus, you will get a pet dragon and lots of other stuff
I would rather start out on release day with millions in my bank, rather than be toatally broke.
Of course, you may not like the game, but I think its a risk worth taking
Which is dumb as hell in a PvP game. Nothing starting off a in a PvP game a a severe disadvantage, hey we really want a lot of people top pay 60 bucks for this game, just ignore the 8k people who will be ganking your butts because of the special gifts we gave them for pre ordering. All they are doing is guaranteeing the game will never break 10 k in population assuming it ever sees release that is. I wonder if NP3 management would even know a clue if they were urinating on one.
I miss DAoC
Inherit your familys wealth, kept safe for you through the ages in remembrance of your Ancestors deeds
Discover an artefact left by your Ancestor which forever shall commemorate their history
It says right there , you will get to keep your gold
And it looks like you will get to keep one item also
I'm not preordering because they've been sketchy on the info released thus far and there is little signs that point to them delivering a quality product. I've still been a supporter up until today simply because I love the idea and the concept.
But guess what?
The immense, unbalanced advantage pioneers will receive has completely turned me off. So sure, they get their preorders BUT if they deliver a quality product then they've lost more customers such as myself which will generate less income in the long run. If it's a bust well then at least they get $532,860 ($60x8881). All this preorder bribery translates to me to a lack of confidence in their game. Five months worth of gold for a starting character? Give me a break. Pioneers will dominate the begining battle scene for such a continued length of time that I have no interest in playing the finished product.
I don't think the pioneers will have that big of an advantage
Sure they will have millions of gold, but there will be nothing to buy.
It will be months before crafters are high enough of a level to make great stuff.
The work around is very simple. Get into a clan that has a few pre-order members and give your game goths (DnL money) to him or her to keep until your return.
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Since every clan will be doing this I don't see it as unbalancing the game.
LOL every MMORPG has hard cores who max their toons in 30 days or less, and yeah every clan will be twinking the crap out of their members. Nope sounds like a fair an level playing field to me. NP3 just shot themselves in the foot, again I might add.
I miss DAoC
I like the Oakstead's idea for transferring the wealth of (poor IRL) members who are unable to spre the $60, but I would like to urge all other players who can affort $60 to contribute them to NP3 because that will increase the quality of the DnL game that we're all going to play
Cheers, Antoan
Dont tell me people are forgetting Mourning already.
Hell no.
im going to be pre ordering and those 8k people wont be ganking at all less a new person is dumb enough to walk around in a pvp kingdom right off the start and im sure the dragon will have no attack practicly at all just used to fly. if the dragon is powerfull then i'll say nerf it even though i'll have one :P
"It's the darkness that brings us power"
Think about it people. Those who get to carry their money to DnL will be the ones setting down a pre-done economy. This is likely a way that the developers were thinking of how the players would be able to lay down the economy.
Also, i've already stated my reasoning of why the actual 'gifts' wont be unbalancing in another thread. But, I'd also like to add this.
The DnL website sees about 5-8k NEW people on their boards every week now. Usually over 1.5k A DAY.
That alone means that there is definite interest in this game. There will be more than 10k subscribers when the game is released.. There's no telling how many people they'll even let into SoG, as they DID say there would be a somewhat limited amount due to the fact that it is too expensive to allow everyone into a free game for so long.
So.. just a speculation here, but if even half of the people who played SoG didn't like it... there will still be a LOT of people buying the game at release.. those that liked it, and most likely most of those who didn't get to play it. And what's to say everyone who pre-ordered will play at release?
Think sensibly people, and stop blindly bashing a game because you gave up hope long ago. Stop trying to ruin it for the people who actually HAVE hope.
I'm not a fanboy, I'm simply sick of everyone bashing a game they know NOTHING about, because they HAVN'T PLAYED THE DAMN THING. I'm hoping for this to be the next big game.. I played AC for years, EQ for years, and every other game has never matched up. I as well as many other players are hoping for DnL to be good. All you idiots bashing the game at every chance will likely just disappear if the game turns out good.. you'll never admit you were wrong or anything. If you end up being right, you'll never shut up about it.. you'll be rubbing it in everyone's faces. Well, good for you... way to show maturity about everything.
At least some of us, me included, can admit when they were wrong. I had all the faith in the world in WoW. I was wrong. I hated it, and I can admit that even though I stood up for it for so long. The way you people act though, is that you KNOW you're 100% right... you KNOW this game will fail, and that everything NP3 does is wrong. Well, why are you still hanging around? Stop ruining it for others.
Sheista, you are completely missing the point. I've been a fairly loyal follower of DnL now for over a year, constantly checking up on videos and any potentially useful information about the game. But when you've followed as many MMORPGs as I have and watched them either dissipate into a memory or release with only the cookie cutter features and none of the unique ones - you start to lose faith in the industry. Up until today, I had kept some faith in DnL. But to be honest, you won't truly know an MMORPG until you play it.
However, the signs that NP3 has given us thus far have pointed to a less than satisfactory end product. That doesn't mean it will be but whether or not it is doesn't matter. The fact is, as the benefits are worded right now, "pioneers" will receive an unfair, significant advantage over everybody else. You can speculate if you desire about the devs planning this for a hustle, bustle economy from day 1 but with no words from their mouth I won't buy into that. 8,881 people will be the first lords and barons of the kingdoms in DnL. No matter their opponents determination and dediction they won't be able to compete. Money is a huge factor for any war based MMO and guess who has it? That same 8,881 people who happened to buy the game before anyone else.
No. I don't buy into this "the devs planned it this way" bit. They realize this is a signifcant advantage and are trying to bribe people to purchase the product before they've even seen it, read about it (planned features and testimonials don't count), or were given a chance to make an informed decision. If the devs don't have faith in us to purchase the product after an SoG release then I don't have faith in their product. Not anymore. I'll still play SoG but my expectations have gone down and unless the preorder bonuses are not as extreme as they're made out to be - I won't play DnL.
the wording is kind of odd, who knows exactly what they are going to do at launch. but it does seem that there will be a huge imbalance at launch in favor of the people that preordered.
i can understand maybe one item like a breastplate or a sword that was a family air loom, but all the wealth? i really hope they explain this is more detail soon because its not looking real good right now
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
i am not quite sure yet,but i think i will pre-order. of course i see it as a "high-risk-investment"
,but luckily 60$ arn't the world fo me,i made up my mind to just forget about it if it's crap or not launching.
about the whole "advantage"-thingies,as long as the pre-orderers don't get an uber-weapon exclusevly or such i see no problem-what about the people that will start months after the launch in april?they are also at a disadvantage?
jumping into an already existing mmorpg always gives you a sort of "disadvantage"(i see the Pioneers as an already existing community when the game launches)-but that may/can also help newstarters-or do you think all the pioneers will be assholes?(look what i've got already,loser!)-
in every mmorpg there are rich and poor,strong and weak-the point is how they manage to play together-and being jealous because they have some items or more gold or whatsoever in the beginning.....oh my,a game shouldn't be race!
in every mmorpg i have ever started i was the poorest and weakest person in the whole game at my first loggin
-and i didn't mind-usually i got a lot of help from stronger,richer and more experienced players-i even think they like to help
-and at some point i liked it to help "newcomers"-and some of that newcomers overtook me after some time
grrrrrrr!!!!-scandalous!!!
you have a good point but see here is the problem i have with this.....
that would be all fine and dandy if they gave all the people that played the wealth of their family or whatever, but they are only doing that for people that preorder. and to top it off there is only a set amount of people that can preorder.
i think they should just give the preorder people everything they listed but only like one or two really nice item's.
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
....then i hope/thrust that they can balance the whole thing,because last thing i want as a (possible)pre-orderer is to be an annoyance to the players coming after me!!!!
Im going to pre-order so hard my eyes will bleed urine. ^^
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Though I'm not following the news of this game much, it seems to have the "Ultima Online qualities" I'm looking for in a game, i.e. an online virtual world where action isn't limited to fighting monsters, but is also an online community.
I'm considering pre-ordering, but could anyone tell me what distribution methods will be available, if something relevant has been announced. Specifically, will there be a download option, where I buy or pre-order the game and I can download it (instead of having to order a shipped package that will cost me more).
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No not going to pre-order
Tell you what.
I'll preorder, and before SoG closes give me your money and when it go's live ill give you your cash back for a small 5% transaction fee.