Originally posted by iFruit Shitty decade-long outdated WoW running last-resort cash grabbing tactics aimed at mindless puppets, hell yeah! Way to go blizzards, nice one
yeah because they no longer have millions if people paying subs each month this is a last resort to make some cash...
I read an article the other month about the top mmos making cash from cash shops.. wow was 7th or something so they have tons of cash comnig in from subs plus tons of cash coming in from the basic cash shop.. I dont think wow is on a last resort for anything.. it seems to still be going strong..
its not my type of game at all but millions of people still seem to love it.
No why would pay to skip content sure it is pain to 1 to 90 new and in WoD to 100 but this new concept blizzard have to P2S content for lvl system is more or less broken why not fix instead of take easy way.
MMO(RPG) is not about skip content to get to the end game blizzard have to lost the whole concept on what a MMO(RPG) it is all about the whole journey from lvl 1 to end game but in blizzard world the basically have remove everything from class quest to go to your class trainer when lvl up to get new spells then have even made craft easy you can bing lvl 90 and basically farm in MoP all mats you need to lvl up blacksmith for example i think it is big epic fault on blizzard part.
$60 to get to lvl 90 no why would i even pay it for then total is agains all what MMO(RPG) in my book stand for.
While i think $60 is WAAYY too expensive, you're a little off in the rest of your post. I currently have 3 lvl 90s and I've leveled every class to at least 72. Believe me, I am missing out on nothing if I were to use this to boost one of my characters. Its not a good idea for new players but for people who have run through all the leveling content multiple times, I can see how this can be appealing.
This skip to level 90 option is great for veterans and bringing friends/family into a game who are reluctant to level 1-100. The veteran having to wait for 90 levels to even play the expansion with friend or a family member; and the new player who's immediate thought is, "100 levels? Hell, no will I level 1 toon that high, let alone 50!!!".
In established games that are almost 10 years old, players have "been there" enough times. Guilds need specific classes, and players want to play specific classes, before they get bored at level 58, and see the Black Portal, then lose interest. All those toons we have on our account(s) remain low level as the thought to level another toon, again, is enough to keep them at 58 forever.
Originally posted by Searias $60 seems like an ok price, if they lower it down there would be way too many level 90s running around who would not know about their classes. :P
As opposed to everyone who buys WoD, getting a free boost to 90? Lets say it sells 7 million copies, (MoP sold about that).
Seven million new 90's. What's a few more? This is a stop gap, to make up for lost subs. Something they can limp by with until they come out with their next MMO.
I've always felt they were deeply involved in the RMT market against their customers anyway. This falls right in line with that. Screw it you wanna pay 60 bucks for 3 days worth of work be my guest.
Why work hard if you can just rip-off people that have no clue about what a dollar is actually worth.
Issue is that people know exactly what a dollar is worth and it isn't worth all that much.
If you are in a middle-range job that pays $20-$30 per hour, a 90 level boost is 2-3 hours of RL work.
Wow! I can grind 20 hours to level a toon, or spend 2 hours of RL work!
Lets be honest, $60 isn't enough for a night out with friends.
My game will have 200 levels and will take 9 hours to get there. Since you freely embrace the option of just leveling to max by giving me money I think you wont be mad if I just charge you $180 right?
See buddy? I knew you would understand.
Winning a discussion is not what it's about. If you could pass insight to someone or learn something from it in return - noone can really loose, can they?
About ppl buying end game characters at lvl cap and not knowing their characters...
Why doesnt blozzard offer a specific tutorial for classes for different specs. Thry are charging a lot of money thrn they should do it right and not treat their customers with a low quality product thay ends up feelong broken because not only do they not know thr class its also possible the ability desciption sucks.
So paying 60 dollars and thrn relying on bad sbility descriptions sounds like a bad deal with lots of nerd rage and failure.
Even fan sites put the effort for hiving builds and rotations, but an actual tutorial with even a duel dummy.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
i worked with a guy who leveled one character to 85, then said he didnt want to level other classes to 85 but wanted to play them, so he paid 4 times to have characters leveled and i know it cost him over $150 bux each time, on his last one his account got blocked for 2 weeks because they caught it .. i just had to laugh at him .. but thats not all .. he has 2 friends who wanted to play and bought their characters fully leveled, i dont know the price they paid but he said it was more than he paid to have his leveled up . Then they want to do a dungeon, and while inside they dont even know how to play their characters .. so sad.
Well, you can only blame yourselves for the development. As long as you keep buying stupid vanity pets or special mounts for real life currency developers will keep pushing microtransactions down your throat. This genre is going down the drains... It's no longer about the journey or story. Mounts are less and less important.. I remember seeing a mounted character for the first time. Lot of work went into earning enough for such a beast, and the sense of accomplishment was amazing. Now you can buy a mount for real life money, skip the challenges. Or you get a mount for free if you return to the game or buy this or that upgrade. Instant gratification, thou art a villain.
Did it ever occur to some of you fine folks that maybe somebody who has several characters at max level might actually not want to go through the same content they've seen eighteen billion times before in order to see what a different class is like? To some people that very well may be worth $60.
What a way to treat a loyal paying customer
They've been paying a sub for years and seen the content 18 billion times before, so lets smack em with a $60 charge to bypass it.
$20 would be a little more respectable if not still too much. I think veteran player's with accounts lasting over years should be able to start 90's free of charge (not like it cost's Blizz anything)
Talk about an asshole dick head company
To burst your bubble:
Blizzard does not know who you are, they do not have a framed photo of you on their desks. Like dealing with all companies; you are just a number and they want your money, simple as that.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Why work hard if you can just rip-off people that have no clue about what a dollar is actually worth.
Issue is that people know exactly what a dollar is worth and it isn't worth all that much.
If you are in a middle-range job that pays $20-$30 per hour, a 90 level boost is 2-3 hours of RL work.
Wow! I can grind 20 hours to level a toon, or spend 2 hours of RL work!
Lets be honest, $60 isn't enough for a night out with friends.
My game will have 200 levels and will take 9 hours to get there. Since you freely embrace the option of just leveling to max by giving me money I think you wont be mad if I just charge you $180 right?
See buddy? I knew you would understand.
The most inane post of the day goes to Cellarkid88. Who would you like to thank?
Why work hard if you can just rip-off people that have no clue about what a dollar is actually worth.
Issue is that people know exactly what a dollar is worth and it isn't worth all that much.
If you are in a middle-range job that pays $20-$30 per hour, a 90 level boost is 2-3 hours of RL work.
Wow! I can grind 20 hours to level a toon, or spend 2 hours of RL work!
Lets be honest, $60 isn't enough for a night out with friends.
My game will have 200 levels and will take 9 hours to get there. Since you freely embrace the option of just leveling to max by giving me money I think you wont be mad if I just charge you $180 right?
See buddy? I knew you would understand.
No one would pay it, because you're not hawking the stuff people want to buy! lol
I would never level a Horde character, I may buy an insta-90 Hordie to spy on their FTH movements, then sis and I can farm some BEFs (traitors have no business being in the paladin brotherhood!). }:>
WoW did it, so we must hate it! Hate Blizzard! Hate D3! Hate WoW! Hate SC2! Renounce the evil works of ActiBlizz!
Can't say the reaction surprises me, but as usual it never fails to entertain. This is what, the 15th time in several years people here have screamed about Blizzard finally killing WoW? While still funny, it's also getting progressively sadder each time.
Wait until you get the hate mail.
WoW says I'm not a fanboi; they claim I am. Internet is a funny medium! lololol
I've long been a WoW fan and Blizzard fan, but this is insulting.
$60? HAH
I've given Blizzard probably thousands of dollars and thousands of hours into their games, most of which going straight into WoW.
It should be $20 for a 90 boost for accounts with at least one existing level 90.
So if you don't have a 90 now, buy WoD, boost a toon to 90, WoD will cost around $40 like usual, spend $20 for another boost for a second toon to 90 if you wish. Blizzard still gets their $60.
Or if you have multiple 90's already, buy WoD for $40 and boost one toon "free", pay $20 for additional 90's.
$60 for a 90 boost is just insulting.
I'm trying to really ween myself off of PC gaming and focus more and more on console, recently just cancelled my pre-purchase of Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls for PC and am waiting/hoping for an XB1 version.
This insult is pushing me to really, really think very strongly about finally abandoning WoW for good.
I've long been a WoW fan and Blizzard fan, but this is insulting.
$60? HAH
I've given Blizzard probably thousands of dollars and thousands of hours into their games, most of which going straight into WoW.
It should be $20 for a 90 boost for accounts with at least one existing level 90.
So if you don't have a 90 now, buy WoD, boost a toon to 90, WoD will cost around $40 like usual, spend $20 for another boost for a second toon to 90 if you wish. Blizzard still gets their $60.
Or if you have multiple 90's already, buy WoD for $40 and boost one toon "free", pay $20 for additional 90's.
$60 for a 90 boost is just insulting.
I'm trying to really ween myself off of PC gaming and focus more and more on console, recently just cancelled my pre-purchase of Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls for PC and am waiting/hoping for an XB1 version.
This insult is pushing me to really, really think very strongly about finally abandoning WoW for good.
I ve given Blizzard tons of money too, and see nothing wrong with it. I say good for them if they can get that from people. You re essentially paying for an instant pl service, don t see any problem with them making good money off of something that is easy to do in the first place.
The saddest thing in this discussion is the fact that you are not even thinking about the context of blizzard's decision. All you do is ranting about price that its too high/too low. "$60 for boost is just insulting".
Seriously, you know what is insulting ? That such boost exists (along with cash shop mounts and pets) in a game that costs box price + has got subscription fee. Did all of you lose your minds ? Imagine it's not 2014, but 2006, 2008, even 2010. Think how would community react if blizzard said they are going to implement paid level boost. Hell, let's imagine some other company proposed something like that. They would literally get nuked out of business at that time.
The fact that most people's inner fanaticism for blizzard makes them argue about the price instead of straight up protesting about existence of such "paid services" is insulting. The fact that people allow for that kind of cashgrab in a SUBSCRIPTION game is just disgusting.
I've long been a WoW fan and Blizzard fan, but this is insulting.
$60? HAH
I've given Blizzard probably thousands of dollars and thousands of hours into their games, most of which going straight into WoW.
It should be $20 for a 90 boost for accounts with at least one existing level 90.
So if you don't have a 90 now, buy WoD, boost a toon to 90, WoD will cost around $40 like usual, spend $20 for another boost for a second toon to 90 if you wish. Blizzard still gets their $60.
Or if you have multiple 90's already, buy WoD for $40 and boost one toon "free", pay $20 for additional 90's.
$60 for a 90 boost is just insulting.
I'm trying to really ween myself off of PC gaming and focus more and more on console, recently just cancelled my pre-purchase of Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls for PC and am waiting/hoping for an XB1 version.
This insult is pushing me to really, really think very strongly about finally abandoning WoW for good.
First off, I will say I love your idea of the decreased price point. I might take it one step further and say why not offer it for like $20 from 1-60, $10 from 61-70, $10 from 71-80, $10 fron 81-85, $10 from 86-90? Still $60 but, like you said, if you've got toons caught at like level 80 it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg. Plus, if there was content I actually wanted to go through, like maybe I stopped playing before Wrath, so I want to go back and go through that content, then I've got options to do that. Or just offer 1-90 for $60 straight up.
However, I would disagree that $60 is insulting. I think that might be a bit of an exaggeration. I'm tired of the argument that "I've paid thousands into this game and they just get it for nothing!" Fact of the matter is that even someone starting out at level one had a lower cost of entry than you did because you probably bought all the expansions and full price and the leveling was much more difficult, so took you longer.
Let's be completely honest, though, you didn't spend thousands of dollars leveling your character, did you? No, you spent thousands of dollars at max level. Your actual cost for leveling was probably quite trivial in comparison. I know mine was.
For a new character, though, I don't see $60 as an insult at all, it seems right in the ballpark to me. I don't know how long it might take you to get through the content now. I got my Panda to 90 in like 4 or 5 days game time. Probably took me a few months to do, with leveling my other toons and stuff as well. So $60 doesn't seem outrageous to me. The fact is, though, that they're always going to be paying less than you have, so it's not really a valid argument.
The saddest thing in this discussion is the fact that you are not even thinking about the context of blizzard's decision. All you do is ranting about price that its too high/too low. "$60 for boost is just insulting".
Seriously, you know what is insulting ? That such boost exists (along with cash shop mounts and pets) in a game that costs box price + has got subscription fee. Did all of you lose your minds ? Imagine it's not 2014, but 2006, 2008, even 2010. Think how would community react if blizzard said they are going to implement paid level boost. Hell, let's imagine some other company proposed something like that. They would literally get nuked out of business at that time.
The fact that most people's inner fanaticism for blizzard makes them argue about the price instead of straight up protesting about existence of such "paid services" is insulting. The fact that people allow for that kind of cashgrab in a SUBSCRIPTION game is just disgusting.
Theres no cash grab at all, when you don t NEED any of the products to play the game. Don t pay for it, and don t worry what other people spend their money on. That goes for any game, not just Blizzard, don t want people thinking I m a Blizz lover.
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Issue is that people know exactly what a dollar is worth and it isn't worth all that much.
If you are in a middle-range job that pays $20-$30 per hour, a 90 level boost is 2-3 hours of RL work.
Wow! I can grind 20 hours to level a toon, or spend 2 hours of RL work!
Lets be honest, $60 isn't enough for a night out with friends.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
yeah because they no longer have millions if people paying subs each month this is a last resort to make some cash...
I read an article the other month about the top mmos making cash from cash shops.. wow was 7th or something so they have tons of cash comnig in from subs plus tons of cash coming in from the basic cash shop.. I dont think wow is on a last resort for anything.. it seems to still be going strong..
its not my type of game at all but millions of people still seem to love it.
This skip to level 90 option is great for veterans and bringing friends/family into a game who are reluctant to level 1-100. The veteran having to wait for 90 levels to even play the expansion with friend or a family member; and the new player who's immediate thought is, "100 levels? Hell, no will I level 1 toon that high, let alone 50!!!".
In established games that are almost 10 years old, players have "been there" enough times. Guilds need specific classes, and players want to play specific classes, before they get bored at level 58, and see the Black Portal, then lose interest. All those toons we have on our account(s) remain low level as the thought to level another toon, again, is enough to keep them at 58 forever.
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
Say it aint so!
I'm gonna go!
Uninstall WoW!
Be playing ESO!
Na na na
Na na na
"What tastes like purple?"
As opposed to everyone who buys WoD, getting a free boost to 90? Lets say it sells 7 million copies, (MoP sold about that).
Seven million new 90's. What's a few more? This is a stop gap, to make up for lost subs. Something they can limp by with until they come out with their next MMO.
"What tastes like purple?"
My game will have 200 levels and will take 9 hours to get there. Since you freely embrace the option of just leveling to max by giving me money I think you wont be mad if I just charge you $180 right?
See buddy? I knew you would understand.
Winning a discussion is not what it's about. If you could pass insight to someone or learn something from it in return - noone can really loose, can they?
Why doesnt blozzard offer a specific tutorial for classes for different specs. Thry are charging a lot of money thrn they should do it right and not treat their customers with a low quality product thay ends up feelong broken because not only do they not know thr class its also possible the ability desciption sucks.
So paying 60 dollars and thrn relying on bad sbility descriptions sounds like a bad deal with lots of nerd rage and failure.
Even fan sites put the effort for hiving builds and rotations, but an actual tutorial with even a duel dummy.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
For 60 bucks id want gold given to me every day, along with honor points and I want to put out no effort into the game.
WAIT !!! Thats the way it is now!!
But wow is my go to game.
To burst your bubble:
Blizzard does not know who you are, they do not have a framed photo of you on their desks. Like dealing with all companies; you are just a number and they want your money, simple as that.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
"If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"
The most inane post of the day goes to Cellarkid88. Who would you like to thank?
No one would pay it, because you're not hawking the stuff people want to buy! lol
I would never level a Horde character, I may buy an insta-90 Hordie to spy on their FTH movements, then sis and I can farm some BEFs (traitors have no business being in the paladin brotherhood!). }:>
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
Wait until you get the hate mail.
WoW says I'm not a fanboi; they claim I am. Internet is a funny medium! lololol
.:| Kevyne@Shandris - Armory |:. - When WoW was #1 - .:| I AM A HOLY PALADIN - Guild Theme |:.
What. A. Joke.
I've long been a WoW fan and Blizzard fan, but this is insulting.
$60? HAH
I've given Blizzard probably thousands of dollars and thousands of hours into their games, most of which going straight into WoW.
It should be $20 for a 90 boost for accounts with at least one existing level 90.
So if you don't have a 90 now, buy WoD, boost a toon to 90, WoD will cost around $40 like usual, spend $20 for another boost for a second toon to 90 if you wish. Blizzard still gets their $60.
Or if you have multiple 90's already, buy WoD for $40 and boost one toon "free", pay $20 for additional 90's.
$60 for a 90 boost is just insulting.
I'm trying to really ween myself off of PC gaming and focus more and more on console, recently just cancelled my pre-purchase of Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls for PC and am waiting/hoping for an XB1 version.
This insult is pushing me to really, really think very strongly about finally abandoning WoW for good.
I ve given Blizzard tons of money too, and see nothing wrong with it. I say good for them if they can get that from people. You re essentially paying for an instant pl service, don t see any problem with them making good money off of something that is easy to do in the first place.
The saddest thing in this discussion is the fact that you are not even thinking about the context of blizzard's decision. All you do is ranting about price that its too high/too low. "$60 for boost is just insulting".
Seriously, you know what is insulting ? That such boost exists (along with cash shop mounts and pets) in a game that costs box price + has got subscription fee. Did all of you lose your minds ? Imagine it's not 2014, but 2006, 2008, even 2010. Think how would community react if blizzard said they are going to implement paid level boost. Hell, let's imagine some other company proposed something like that. They would literally get nuked out of business at that time.
The fact that most people's inner fanaticism for blizzard makes them argue about the price instead of straight up protesting about existence of such "paid services" is insulting. The fact that people allow for that kind of cashgrab in a SUBSCRIPTION game is just disgusting.
First off, I will say I love your idea of the decreased price point. I might take it one step further and say why not offer it for like $20 from 1-60, $10 from 61-70, $10 from 71-80, $10 fron 81-85, $10 from 86-90? Still $60 but, like you said, if you've got toons caught at like level 80 it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg. Plus, if there was content I actually wanted to go through, like maybe I stopped playing before Wrath, so I want to go back and go through that content, then I've got options to do that. Or just offer 1-90 for $60 straight up.
However, I would disagree that $60 is insulting. I think that might be a bit of an exaggeration. I'm tired of the argument that "I've paid thousands into this game and they just get it for nothing!" Fact of the matter is that even someone starting out at level one had a lower cost of entry than you did because you probably bought all the expansions and full price and the leveling was much more difficult, so took you longer.
Let's be completely honest, though, you didn't spend thousands of dollars leveling your character, did you? No, you spent thousands of dollars at max level. Your actual cost for leveling was probably quite trivial in comparison. I know mine was.
For a new character, though, I don't see $60 as an insult at all, it seems right in the ballpark to me. I don't know how long it might take you to get through the content now. I got my Panda to 90 in like 4 or 5 days game time. Probably took me a few months to do, with leveling my other toons and stuff as well. So $60 doesn't seem outrageous to me. The fact is, though, that they're always going to be paying less than you have, so it's not really a valid argument.
Crazkanuk
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No, you still have to pay 30 bucks for Pandaria...
Which means you are basically skipping it at 90.
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Theres no cash grab at all, when you don t NEED any of the products to play the game. Don t pay for it, and don t worry what other people spend their money on. That goes for any game, not just Blizzard, don t want people thinking I m a Blizz lover.