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[Column] General: ESO vs Wildstar: NDA Free Edition
SBFord
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Welcome back to Player Versus Player, your bi-weekly foray into the world of MMO debate! This was a week of free speech and strong opinions. Zenimax finally saw released the NDA keeping Elder Scrolls Online fans silent and the internet has erupted is review. Last month, PVP took a stab at pitting ESO against Wildstar but with the NDAs still up, there was only so much to say. Now that our authors are free to speak their minds, we’re back for a revisit. Which game will win the day: Wildstar or Elder Scrolls Online?
Read more of Christopher Coke's Player vs Player: ESO vs WildStar - NDA Free Edition.
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If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Why do you need to bet on anything? The market is large enough that both can coexist. We saw the same bullshit rivalry with AoC and Warhammer, and everyone kept playing up their preferred game until both were overhyped and ultimatly both failed.
I have played both games and Wildstar is the one that has stood out for me. Everyone says that ESO gets better the longer you play but I've not managed to reach that point with it. I think wildstar will have the broader appeal whilst ESO will have repescted but niche appeal.
so in current MMO terms. Wildstar is WOW & ESO is EQ2
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If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
ESO, while I enjoy it overall, really needs combat polishing. I have to say I agree with its clunkiness issue.
I can say for a fact, I'll be playing both.
I agree with pretty much everything here. The funny thing about these two games for me is that when it comes right down to it, its not about what features one has, and whats lacking from the games. It was about what I could get into personally and find enjoyment in.
Both of these games have completely flipped in my experience. ESO at the start months ago, I wasnt interested in at all. The game seemed to lack any features, as was pointed out here, you have basically Dungeons and Cyrodiil. Thats it. Wildstar on the other hand, has all these different offerings, and I was super excited early on to see a game try to offer something for everyone, whether you were a small group or a large, whether you liked PVE or PVP.
But then I played both. Since playing in both betas, I have done a full 180 on each. Wildstar has completely turned me off, so much so that I have been forced to find a different guild, since my original only plans to play Wildstar. All those features sounded good on paper, and individually they are fun, but they never come together into a cohesive game. Like was pointed out in the article, it just feels like a whole lot of fragmented systems. ESO on the other hand, has alot of story and lore, and the questing really brings the whole game together. Even moving from PVE to PVP in Cyrodiil, you still feel like its all connected.
I have never been one to care about graphics, and I couldnt really care less that Wildstar is cartoony, and ESO is more realistic or what I like to call "dirty realism". But the sci-fi setting of Wildstar really turned me off much more than I expected it to. Im a huge sci-fi fan (love both Star Wars and Star Trek), but for some reason that just doesnt seem to apply to games. I thought it would be fine, but turns out, the fantasy setting of ESO (dragons and magic) really is what Im looking for.
In the end, instead of pre-ordering Wildstar and playing with the other 200+ something members of my guild, I have pre-ordered ESO and now Im looking for a new home. Someplace with other like minded players, who despite what "should" be a better game in Wildstar, we find that ESO is just more "us".
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There is a whole thread in the forums why you cant compare these games...
maybe the authors should read that one first....
chances are most likely you will either love one or the other but not both..
and combat in ESO is far from cluncky
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Its funny, I never really thought of it that way, but I think you are 100% accurate on that. Wildstar does seem to cater to a much broader general audience, with more of a focus on casual gaming, and trying to offer alittle bit to everyone like WoW did. While ESO is focusing on a much smaller focused group, giving the players more challenging content and gameplay instead of trying to appeal to everyone like EQ2.
I had chosen EQ2 back in 2004 over WoW, and stuck with it for 8 years. I never once regretted that decision, even when WoW became the go-to game with millions of players, I was happy with a smaller more mature playerbase who appreciated being challenged. EQ2 vs WoW was a quality over quantity example, and its quite possible ESO vs Wildstar will end up very much the same way.
Is wildstar free to play and i missed it?
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Let's say you're right. That means WildStar has to try and compete with the juggernaut that is WoW, that many people have invested so much time into, they'll never leave it for long. Their friends are there, their guilds, their 50$ mounts.
Trying to beat WoW in its own game, as we've seen in the past, generally hurts far more than it helps.
They're going to charge the same for WoWClone...I mean WildStar.
Ah, another person who has only glanced at all WildStar offers for max level players. They see "raiding" and close their eyes.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
I have not played Wildstar but was kind of interested in it and was looking at it more and more.
I HAVE played ESO and I will say I was not really liking anything this seemed to offer too much and had very little interest. To me when a single player tries to go an MMO route they tend to fail miserably or go F2P. I was however blown away when I got a curse key. I think the game is very well put together. To me combat is a bit clunky and there are bugs that need ironed out, but the crafting was fantastic, the quests were interesting and intriguing, and the exploring and finding other quests not in a hub was refreshing as well as the kind of quests. I honestly think ESO has won me over as I did a complete 180 on the game since it was announced.
Oh and Cheesemonger's Hollow...shame it was bugged in beta but I do love me some Sheogoroth...
Neither. Been there done that. A hundred times.
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I don't think either will win 2014
After playing both I believe they are both solid games. They will each have their audience but it won't be a spectacular big audience.
Out of the two, ESO will be bigger due to the IP and that it will be on consoles as well.
Hahahahahaha! Yes! Sheogorath is probably my all time favorite game character! Seeing him so early made my weekend. =D
I have already left some of my opinions on this in other forum topics. I won't bother repeating. Just wanted to say I loved this column.
More please!
I looked seriously at WildStar and was a massively huge fan...until this weekend.