Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
The comic is probably spot on. No I don’t play this game because I have seen the previous ES games and know without a means to modify things the game will get boring in about a month or two just like all previous ES games.
Mods have made ES games what they are not the vanilla released versions. The poor combat mechanics, bad user interface and down right dull storylines made these games last about a month before I was adding mods or making my own changes.
I played Morrowind for a month before adding mods. In Oblivion I played a total of 80 hours through the main quest line before adding mods. I changed the combat animations and added better graphical armors. After adding numerous mods (about 30) I continued my Oblivion adventure for another 1200 hours of game play. The total time spent will the developers released version was 80 hours but the continued enjoyment was over 1100 hours.
In Skyrim I finished the main quest in under 20 hours and uninstalled it because it was rather dull and boring. There was not a convenient way to mod the game at the time since creation kit was released several months later so I went off to work on my own stuff. Later I came back and made a couple changes to the interface and added 88 mods that completely changed the game play and environment. Since adding the changes I can start in different areas, make my own useable gear, work dungeons I added and continue on quests that others have made. I have over 700 hours addition game play hours because of mods and still love the lore and open world feel that is not a boxed in zone.
If the developers wanted to really make a game worth its salt then they should have made this one multiplayer with capability for others to make and maintain their own servers with their own mods. Even paying a monthly fee for netcode access would have made it worth the price just to have the freedom to choose the best suitable server for ones play style.
As it stands here this looks like a great game for a month or two so it is not worth buying or paying a sub.
Skyrim was and still is one of my favorites of all times, but did you know most of Skyrims sales were to people who couldn't even mod their own game? I do agree it would be awesome to mod an mmorpg, but it would be almost impossible to keep the game standardized for all players.
XBox 360
59 %
Playstation 3
27 %
PC
14 %
If most Skyrim players couldn't mod their game, then it's pretty likely that most Skyrim players didn't put more than 20-80 hours into the game total. The people that you hear about putting in 1000+ hours most certainly have modded their game up.
Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
So now we're bringing up idiotic, humorless comic strips to discuss ESO's flaws? Really? And the best part is when the OP said he thought the comic was "spot on."
Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
So now we're bringing up idiotic, humorless comic strips to discuss ESO's flaws? Really? And the best part is when the OP said he thought the comic was "spot on."
The comic voices opinions. Opinions are neither right or wrong.
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Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.
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Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
TR had no end game for months after launch that is a fact. SWTOR released with more end game in comparison again a fact. So me telling him that SWTOR is a complete game isn't defending but telling him the truth.
Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.
And in any court it would be defending.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.
And in any court it would be defending.
de·fend
di?fend/
1.
resist an attack made on (someone or something); protect from harm or danger.
"we shall defend our country, whatever the cost"
What did he defend? All he did was state facts.
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Originally posted by Zalmon If SWTOR and FFXIV ARR can get 8+ ratings i guess anything is possible. Two of the worst MMOS i had misfortune to buy and play.
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.
And in any court it would be defending.
de·fend
di?fend/
1.
resist an attack made on (someone or something); protect from harm or danger.
"we shall defend our country, whatever the cost"
What did he defend? All he did was state facts.
You only did number 1 of defense.
5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
So now we're bringing up idiotic, humorless comic strips to discuss ESO's flaws? Really? And the best part is when the OP said he thought the comic was "spot on."
The comic voices opinions. Opinions are neither right or wrong.
Simply not true. Opinions can be right or wrong, especially when there are absolutes.
For example (only) "In my opinion man never landed on the Moon". The fact is, that has to be either right or wrong.
5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.
First of all its against TOS to use posting history of others as an argument.
Secondly stating facts could be called defending but you have to see it in the context it was presented.
You defend the game regardless of whether other person is presenting facts or not. You just simply do not like crticism of ESO..the guy you quoted thinks SWTOR is a horrible MMO and yet defended the fact that its not like TR in terms of end game. Now if he defends every criticsm of SWTOR valid or not then yes you got a point other wise nope.
So now we're bringing up idiotic, humorless comic strips to discuss ESO's flaws? Really? And the best part is when the OP said he thought the comic was "spot on."
The comic voices opinions. Opinions are neither right or wrong.
Simply not true. Opinions can be right or wrong, especially when there are absolutes.
For example (only) "In my opinion man never landed on the Moon". The fact is, that has to be either right or wrong.
The comic doesn't just present opinions but also some true stuff like..falling through floor and floaty combat.
5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.
First of all its against TOS to use posting history of others as an argument.
Secondly stating facts could be called defending but you have to see it in the context it was presented.
You defend the game regardless of whether other person is presenting facts or not. You just simply do not like crticism of ESO..the guy you quoted thinks SWTOR is a horrible MMO and yet defended the fact that its not like TR in terms of end game. Now if he defends every criticsm of SWTOR valid or not then yes you got a point other wise nope.
I don't want to start a debate with you, but do you have the information about your first sentence? I have seen many people do this and found nothing in the Rules of Conduct.
I'm done.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
This comic was boring and it also has an agenda, i think it should be removed.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
What I don't understand is why everyone feels the need to openly hate on the game as aggressively as they do simply because they don't like it. I haven't enjoyed an MMO in years, this game changed that. I log on, hundreds of people saying they love it.
I never seen such a crowd that wants a game to fail simply because they don't like it. The comic was lame btw, I cracked a half smile at the mudcrabs though.
It is not really hate, what you equate as hate is really disappointment. These game developers keep making the same basic mistakes when they produce these MMORPG's. So it's not hate...it's disappointment. For people like me...I have seen this game before...it is a knock-off, of a knock-off, of a knock-off. Going back to DAoC(which was a great MMORPG until Atlantis), then we got a game like Warhammer(which was a knock-off of DAoC), then Aion(knock-off of DAoC), then Tera(oh look another DAoC knock-off), SWToR.... GW2...
And when I say knock-off...they tried to make it a realm vs realm game.
The only MMORPG that got it right between DAoC and Warhammer was WoW.
Do you see a pattern here?
Wait, how did GW2 turn into a DAoC knock-off in this thought process? The others I'll give since they were designed around their Abyss/Warzone/Etc, GW2's WvW is a side-aspect of a game built much more on the foundations of its own predecessor rather than DAoC.
What I don't understand is why everyone feels the need to openly hate on the game as aggressively as they do simply because they don't like it.
My gripe with the game is that it started off great, being designed by one of the best folks in the business. Then publishers got their hooks into it and listened to whining singleplayer fans, and the whole thing was compromised. The RvR still manages to be fun, by a miracle.
Everyone is tired of themeparks, quest grinds, tiny dungeons, lack of risk vs reward.
I remember the wow launch..now THAT was an overall mess.
You're comparing ESO launch to a 10year old launch? What do you think a Blizzard launch would be like compared to ESO nowadays?
Nope, I'm comparing what I view as a decent launch with what I view as an "overall mess". You want a more recent example perhaps? Final Fantasy 14 ARR re-launch. THAT was an overall mess. A few bugged quests and dungeons don't register as an "overall mess" to me. Unless im unaware of some other gamebreaking bugs.
I dont know...how about:
12 hours on down time on launch day
Thousands of paying customers unable to even access the game for days due to issues with keys
Serious game account security issues
Serious player accont security loopholes implemented BY DESIGN
Random rollbacks affecting multiple game zones
Embarrassing billing errors
Duping / botting rife
Gold sellers rampant from day 1
Players hitting max level in what, 17 hours
Those are just the most serious complaints I can recall off the top of my head. It has certainly NOT been a good launch...
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I am so confused right now. I also posted this..
You are trying too hard to get back at me.
If most Skyrim players couldn't mod their game, then it's pretty likely that most Skyrim players didn't put more than 20-80 hours into the game total. The people that you hear about putting in 1000+ hours most certainly have modded their game up.
I'm trying to make a point that you are trying to hard to discredit this game. This forum is about discussion, and if I want to defend what I like I will. Everyones history is full of nothing but debating their points and part of that is defense. So, when you say I'm immature for this, you are saying everyone is also, including yourself.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Discreeting it would be to say 'this game sucks' or 'this game will fail' or 'this will go F2P in X amount of days'.
Talking about bugs and other issues that haunt this game isn't discreeting.
If you can show me a single post where i said this game suck or will go F2P (the typical troll posts) please show me.
Otherwise, the reasons behind my posting and yours are not even close. I don't consider defending or bashing a debate or discussion. When i was a child i used to indulge in 'my toy is better than yours'. Not anymore.
I don't come here to defend or bash games. Unless now discussing drawbacks and other issues of game is also considered hating and bashing in your opinion?
And i play this game on daily basis once i stop i will have no reason to visit its forums. I would prefer to post on official forums but i can't thanks to their horrible system. (invitation error ftw)
Anything else you want to throw at me from my posting history?
So now we're bringing up idiotic, humorless comic strips to discuss ESO's flaws? Really? And the best part is when the OP said he thought the comic was "spot on."
<shakes head>
Your very first post. Are you not defending SWToR over Tabula Rasa?
"There is absolutely no comparison between Tabula Rasa and SWTOR not even close. I know it is your opinion but still it is completely flawed. tabula rasa had no end game and was missing lots of features till the day it closed down. Players kept waiting for better content support but it never came.
SWTOR is a more complete game in beta than Tabula Rasa was during its entire life time."
My point is I am defending what I like and you called me immature. Very hypocritical. Your entire history is filled with this type of discussion.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
The comic voices opinions. Opinions are neither right or wrong.
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Not to agree or disagree with anything, but the yellow text is nothing but facts.
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TR had no end game for months after launch that is a fact. SWTOR released with more end game in comparison again a fact. So me telling him that SWTOR is a complete game isn't defending but telling him the truth.
sigh.. please stop.
And in any court it would be defending.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
de·fend
"we shall defend our country, whatever the cost"
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You only did number 1 of defense.
5. to support (an argument, theory, etc.) in the face of criticism; prove the validity of (a dissertation, thesis, or the like) by answering arguments and questions put by a committee of specialists.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Simply not true. Opinions can be right or wrong, especially when there are absolutes.
For example (only) "In my opinion man never landed on the Moon". The fact is, that has to be either right or wrong.
First of all its against TOS to use posting history of others as an argument.
Secondly stating facts could be called defending but you have to see it in the context it was presented.
You defend the game regardless of whether other person is presenting facts or not. You just simply do not like crticism of ESO..the guy you quoted thinks SWTOR is a horrible MMO and yet defended the fact that its not like TR in terms of end game. Now if he defends every criticsm of SWTOR valid or not then yes you got a point other wise nope.
The comic doesn't just present opinions but also some true stuff like..falling through floor and floaty combat.
I don't want to start a debate with you, but do you have the information about your first sentence? I have seen many people do this and found nothing in the Rules of Conduct.
I'm done.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Oh? Not good enough? Alright, here's another two (I don't even get the 2nd one)....
With accompanying articles:...
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20140402 (for the 1st comic)
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20140404 (for the 2nd comic)
Maybe those are more entertaining? I like the one from the original topic far more because it just ...it fits, you know.
Wait, how did GW2 turn into a DAoC knock-off in this thought process? The others I'll give since they were designed around their Abyss/Warzone/Etc, GW2's WvW is a side-aspect of a game built much more on the foundations of its own predecessor rather than DAoC.
No this is MMORPG.COM where saying something intelligent or speaking the truth gets you reported and your account suspended.
Being a troll and borderline retarded earns you the title of spotlight poster.
My gripe with the game is that it started off great, being designed by one of the best folks in the business. Then publishers got their hooks into it and listened to whining singleplayer fans, and the whole thing was compromised. The RvR still manages to be fun, by a miracle.
Everyone is tired of themeparks, quest grinds, tiny dungeons, lack of risk vs reward.
I dont know...how about:
12 hours on down time on launch day
Thousands of paying customers unable to even access the game for days due to issues with keys
Serious game account security issues
Serious player accont security loopholes implemented BY DESIGN
Random rollbacks affecting multiple game zones
Embarrassing billing errors
Duping / botting rife
Gold sellers rampant from day 1
Players hitting max level in what, 17 hours
Those are just the most serious complaints I can recall off the top of my head. It has certainly NOT been a good launch...