Originally posted by Horusra Falling through the world has been in about ever game I have ever played single or mmo. Bank thing needs to be fixed, but we do not know the work behind fixing it needed. The use of sub or box fees means games should not have issues is laughable. What it means is they should be working to fix the issues not slapping themselves on the back thinking the game is done and they can open up a new project. If I do not see bugs getting fixed every patch or feel ZOS just does not care I will not sub.
Most only if you glitched to somewhere you weren't supposed to be.
A premier example to use as proof that this game was rushed out... it is their payment system, how in the seven hells could they cock up the means by which they get paid for the services rendered?
Issues this big most certainly not because I do not know about you but cheapening gaming as a whole by offering half-ass'd games for premium rates is not ok. This is tantamount to watching a movie with poor editing (some rare editing mistakes are ok but not when you can see the bloody microphone or notice the building near the character(s) is fake) and not complaining and/or demanding your money back for it.
That isn't spectacular... that is what a developer should be doing regardless of how broken or stable their game releases. Doing otherwise means that dev and possibly the publisher as well will suffer possibly even die.
Bank issue I was talking about ingame bank slots. The payment issue has been discussed a lot on eso forum...a lot seemed to be the way individual's banks and finacial institutes uh andle pre-authorizations for reaccuring payments.
Your movie example is not equitable. Look at automobiles with recalls. The value and worth of the product is subjective. I would not buy GW2 for $1 because I do not find it fun personally. Movies do not have issues that develop because suddenly 1 out of 1 million people did something no one else had done.
I did not say it was spectacular. It is what they should do, for me, to keep subscriptions. B2P games could basically give it to you and close the book because they owe you nothing but a functional product and functional is subjective.
I am not convinced that the game is un-playable with and uncaring company working to fix. I find it to be playable with bugs being worked on.
Totally regret buying it, after 25 levels on one character and 23 on another, its still bland and I hate the controls, its not for me but I gave it a go. The art and environment is really nice in the game but its just feeling like the same old thing. Not really into the story and expected bigger from PVP like DAOC. Not a fan of the limited skills available, feel held back. My wife is dragging me around in RIFT now with protest, I hate it too but its free to play and the controls are better. Get more bars to do crap with. Really hate the "Quick Bar" in ESO btw. I hope EQN delivers but I am afraid that will be another limited available skill set control type game.
I will say the limited bar is a breaker or not for people. I would like space to put more potions in a clickable spot. Feel the ui hand to hamstring itself too much for consoles. The limited skills I can deal with myself.
Originally posted by Horusra Bank issue I was talking about ingame bank slots. The payment issue has been discussed a lot on eso forum...a lot seemed to be the way individual's banks and finacial institutes uh andle pre-authorizations for reaccuring payments.
Your movie example is not equitable. Look at automobiles with recalls. The value and worth of the product is subjective. I would not buy GW2 for $1 because I do not find it fun personally. Movies do not have issues that develop because suddenly 1 out of 1 million people did something no one else had done.
I did not say it was spectacular. It is what they should do, for me, to keep subscriptions. B2P games could basically give it to you and close the book because they owe you nothing but a functional product and functional is subjective.
I am not convinced that the game is un-playable with and uncaring company working to fix. I find it to be playable with bugs being worked on.
And that excuses them how? It was their collective jobs to make sure the financial side worked without a hitch, it didn't.
Cars are prone to entropy, games are not, a car can break down from being used too much, a game built right shouldn't. Your example is flawed. Also movies do not develop issues, they already had them just like how games do not develop issues, they already had them (that 1 person will spot the microphone; those million people will show that the netcode, gamecode, etc was poorly designed/implemented/written ).
See World War Z/ Infestation survival stories (or however it is called now) for an example of how a developer can get nailed to a wall for fishy practices by their potential customer base and then comment with such ill-informed notions as B2P games could give it to you and close to book.
Then I pray it is how you think it is because right now it looks like ZOS and possibly BS are going EA on their consumer base.
Originally posted by Horusra I will say the limited bar is a breaker or not for people. I would like space to put more potions in a clickable spot. Feel the ui hand to hamstring itself too much for consoles. The limited skills I can deal with myself.
Definitely annoying. I would agree that in some cases it's for console games, but in games like ESO, TSW, and WS it seems more designed for balance. Basically, to try not to make characters too strong. In games like wow, rift, and swtor lots of the abilities are more like different versions or upgrades of each other. In the limited action bar games your character would be considerably stronger if you could use all of there abilities at any time.
It is not their job to control that paypal processes a charge for the original reaccuring amount. It is their job after being notified to do what they can to try and reimburse people. It is your job to look and see that paypal says in the small print that it charges the amount when you create a reaccuring account. One finger pointed at ZOS 3 back at you.
Games are prone to entropy. More on a server more problems. And many car recalls are defects in cars not found till in use by millions. Some code does not break till someone creates the condition.
I did mot say it was a good idea I said they could. I COULD go out and rob a bank does not mean it is smart. To me ZOS is doing what they should for me. Others have different opinions...some rob banks.
Bethesda has gotten away with releasing buggy stuff fix as the game progresses. Peoplehave accepted that before. I bet ZOS is surprised they did not get the same benefit. Not saying it is right but would not be surprised that they did not think they wpuld get away with this. At this time I do not think this was out of malice but bad expectations of community reaction. Otherwise they might have worked harder ironing these out before release.
@coffeeBreak...yeah the limited skills definitely are to try and keep characters builds a hugh part of the game. It is no longer knowing just when to use a sick, but instead having the skills slotted ypu need or knowing how to use the skills you have together.
My more slots are for the stuff on the quick slot wheel. Rather them just be out when that oh shit I need stam not health time comes up.
Originally posted by Horusra It is not their job to control that paypal processes a charge for the original reaccuring amount. It is their job after being notified to do what they can to try and reimburse people. It is your job to look and see that paypal says in the small print that it charges the amount when you create a reaccuring account. One finger pointed at ZOS 3 back at you.
Games are prone to entropy. More on a server more problems. And many car recalls are defects in cars not found till in use by millions. Some code does not break till someone creates the condition.
I did mot say it was a good idea I said they could. I COULD go out and rob a bank does not mean it is smart. To me ZOS is doing what they should for me. Others have different opinions...some rob banks.
Bethesda has gotten away with releasing buggy stuff fix as the game progresses. Peoplehave accepted that before. I bet ZOS is surprised they did not get the same benefit. Not saying it is right but would not be surprised that they did not think they wpuld get away with this. At this time I do not think this was out of malice but bad expectations of community reaction. Otherwise they might have worked harder ironing these out before release.
Customer's fault for them having a shit system? Good to know.
Code is subject to erratic changes based on whatever "pseudo-science" you think is valid? Gotcha (hint: nothing changes with the code, it lives and dies by how well it was written/created, the fact you even think it can be modified in any way by an entropic process, which does not exist in a virtual world, is proof that you are grasping at straws).
And some pay for sub-par services they could just as well get for free without nickle and dime-ing tactics.
Bethesda has released up until now SP/MP games with a up front charge and no monthly subscription. If their thought processes are in any way similar to the logic you just used ( "Uuuuuh lets launch a crappy game they gotta pay monthly for! not like we haven't launched shit games that they didn't have to pay monthly before") then they are arrogant and deserve to be kicked around for it because it is one thing to pay for a game and play it whenever you want however you want and an entirely different one to pay for it then pay for the privilege of playing it on their servers. See the difference?
Ok i've read every single post in this thread and it seems like the general consensus is, don't buy this game its shit.
Thanks for headsup lol, now i no why my gaming community said to avoid this one
Is it too late to change my vote to " wait till f2p" granted it will still be teh same game but atleast i can try it without wasting money needlessly. Maybe i shouldnt listen to you guys and make my own mind up but meh its ok i trust you lmao
Ok i've read every single post in this thread and it seems like the general consensus is, don't buy this game its shit.
Thanks for headsup lol, now i no why my gaming community said to avoid this one
Is it too late to change my vote to " wait till f2p" granted it will still be teh same game but atleast i can try it without wasting money needlessly. Maybe i shouldnt listen to you guys and make my own mind up but meh its ok i trust you lmao
You know nothing. The game is fine. What is shit is people bashing a game that just came out. The game is playable. Yeah some quests maybe bugged. but it doesn't break the game to where its not playable. Example: Vanguard. That game was UNPLAYBLE at launch, and was that way for half its life at SoE. If u want 60 bucks worth of entertainment for 30days buy. if u want to complain saying u want ur 60bucks back and waste it on seeing a 2hour movie. do that. There is only one opinion and that is yours. Quit listening to these bashers who raced to lvl 40+ in first 3 days then complain that a quest is broken.
Ok i've read every single post in this thread and it seems like the general consensus is, don't buy this game its shit.
Thanks for headsup lol, now i no why my gaming community said to avoid this one
Is it too late to change my vote to " wait till f2p" granted it will still be teh same game but atleast i can try it without wasting money needlessly. Maybe i shouldnt listen to you guys and make my own mind up but meh its ok i trust you lmao
You know nothing. The game is fine. What is shit is people bashing a game that just came out. The game is playable. Yeah some quests maybe bugged. but it doesn't break the game to where its not playable. Example: Vanguard. That game was UNPLAYBLE at launch, and was that way for half its life at SoE. If u want 60 bucks worth of entertainment for 30days buy. if u want to complain saying u want ur 60bucks back and waste it on seeing a 2hour movie. do that. There is only one opinion and that is yours. Quit listening to these bashers who raced to lvl 40+ in first 3 days then complain that a quest is broken.
Another person telling others to rush out and buy without taking into account what they are hearing from other people and reviews (including you). This is the surest possible way to get burned in general and no game regardless of IP, dev or publisher deserves exemption from scrutiny under a microscope to make sure all the i's are dotted.
Ok i've read every single post in this thread and it seems like the general consensus is, don't buy this game its shit.
Thanks for headsup lol, now i no why my gaming community said to avoid this one
Is it too late to change my vote to " wait till f2p" granted it will still be teh same game but atleast i can try it without wasting money needlessly. Maybe i shouldnt listen to you guys and make my own mind up but meh its ok i trust you lmao
You know nothing. The game is fine. What is shit is people bashing a game that just came out. The game is playable. Yeah some quests maybe bugged. but it doesn't break the game to where its not playable. Example: Vanguard. That game was UNPLAYBLE at launch, and was that way for half its life at SoE. If u want 60 bucks worth of entertainment for 30days buy. if u want to complain saying u want ur 60bucks back and waste it on seeing a 2hour movie. do that. There is only one opinion and that is yours. Quit listening to these bashers who raced to lvl 40+ in first 3 days then complain that a quest is broken.
actually the main issues of this game so far are not these you mention. There are serious problems with charging the credits cards, as i read and listen from youtube to twitch streams ... Also lets avoid the critics on the forums, but we see major professional journalists, writing on their reviews to take care before we go and buy this game. If only these 2 are not enough for you, for some people, who have respect for their money cause they work hard to gain them, counts ...
Originally posted by davc123 waiting for it to go F2P
If it goes free to play, I'll quit. Right now I've subbed for 3 months, and really enjoy the game. Yeah there are some bugs, but it's a newly launched MMO, does anyone remember WoW when it first launched, it was a fricken nightmare.
This was a really biased poll, but I won't create a new one.
Anyways, I'm not resubbing. I initially planned to, but the game just doesn't seem ready for launch right now. I'm having fun with the game when I get to play, which is only really during my days off and casually at that, but the game is down more than usual for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance.
I've been playing MMORPG's since 2002 starting with DAoC and I've been apart of a handful of launched and this was the worse one yet. I've never had problems other than long que times, which speaks to the success of a game more than it being a fault, in past MMO releases.
Unless they compensate us for the bad launch by giving us extra free game-time, I won't be resubbing until they give me a free weekend or something. I won't pay to check in on a game I already shown faith in by preordering. It's their turn to show some goodwill and customer obsession.
k, I was in the last three or four stress tests and at first the game was great, then it got more buggy so i cancelled my pre-order.
I have 2 LTS, EvE subbed, Eq2, GW2 & D3 all in use at same time (sleeping problems have benefit at last lol) the rest I use on odd times.
I decided even though people were slating the game i'd give it a chance seeing as you can get it for £20 with 30 days.
I made an siphon/archer nighblade (did want a sorc but they seemed no heal sucks) and went back to AD starter island. Well meant to but as I had ability for any race/faction it had created him in wrong one and after claiming mails i deleted. ESO have given me items back apparently on correctly made character in AD faction pretty sharpish.
Haven't encountered any bugs yet, have had a bit of ability delay which i never had in stres testing but hopefully that'll go.
So i say it's worth getting, I was going to wait 6 months but at £20 and them wanting you to put in sub info right away, it's hardly much. Less than a night at the pub, more than a pizza. Go for it. I got mine from Kinguin, they listed about 6 sites/prices. Base game, no perks was £20, with explorers £22, if you just want explorers dlc £1 odd
Cancelled within a day of the 30 days of play that came with buying it. And I'm seeking a refund, although I'm getting an unbelievable run-around from their customer service. [sarcasm] Wonderful customer service! [/sarcasm] Very, very polite... but otherwise totally useless with canned responses.
"We'd love to help you! Just send us all this personal information -- to include credit card data -- in an open, unsecured email..."
Like hell I will...
Since the last patch, the game is unplayable. I keep trying, but it crashes after at most fifteen minutes or so of play. HARD crashes resulting in their little white dialog asking what I was doing at the time... well, let me see: I was chatting with my son in-game when it crashed (happened multiple times); I was moving (happened multiple times); I was killing a mob, just your everyday mob (happened multiple times); I was fighting a boss mob (happened once); I opened the man (happened multiple times); I opened my inventory (happened mutiple times)...
...in other words, not doing anything other than the mundane. I have even had the game crash just after loading my character.
This wasn't happening during Beta.
This wasn't happening during the 5-day early start.
I had eight crashes total during that timeframe through close to 100 hours played.
Since the patch I've had fifteen crashes in less than an hour played.
I don't know what they did, but my son's framerate has dropped by around 20fps since the patch, too.
Fine, my PC isn't compatible with their game for some reason. I can live with it. But, since the problems only started with the last patch, I don't want some young college kid trying to snow me with the usual crap about ports and routers and firewalls, etc. It's not like I haven't been a computer geek for almost 50 years.
What Crashes I played all day friday the 18th and had no crashes, only had one this month(crash). and that was early on in the early access period, and have had all a patches installed.
Cancelled within a day of the 30 days of play that came with buying it. And I'm seeking a refund, although I'm getting an unbelievable run-around from their customer service. [sarcasm] Wonderful customer service! [/sarcasm] Very, very polite... but otherwise totally useless with canned responses.
"We'd love to help you! Just send us all this personal information -- to include credit card data -- in an open, unsecured email..."
Like hell I will...
Since the last patch, the game is unplayable. I keep trying, but it crashes after at most fifteen minutes or so of play. HARD crashes resulting in their little white dialog asking what I was doing at the time... well, let me see: I was chatting with my son in-game when it crashed (happened multiple times); I was moving (happened multiple times); I was killing a mob, just your everyday mob (happened multiple times); I was fighting a boss mob (happened once); I opened the man (happened multiple times); I opened my inventory (happened mutiple times)...
...in other words, not doing anything other than the mundane. I have even had the game crash just after loading my character.
This wasn't happening during Beta.
This wasn't happening during the 5-day early start.
I had eight crashes total during that timeframe through close to 100 hours played.
Since the patch I've had fifteen crashes in less than an hour played.
I don't know what they did, but my son's framerate has dropped by around 20fps since the patch, too.
Fine, my PC isn't compatible with their game for some reason. I can live with it. But, since the problems only started with the last patch, I don't want some young college kid trying to snow me with the usual crap about ports and routers and firewalls, etc. It's not like I haven't been a computer geek for almost 50 years.
What Crashes I played all day friday the 18th and had no crashes, only had one this month(crash). and that was early on in the early access period, and have had all a patches installed.
I really like the game, but trying to pretend it isn't buggy as hell (even if you have been lucky enough not to experience them) is disingenuous.
I really like the game, but trying to pretend it isn't buggy as hell (even if you have been lucky enough not to experience them) is disingenuous.
Don't you love the posts where someone is quick to say 'what bugs? never happened to me so obviously its a trivial issue' or 'it never happened to me so it doesn't exist'.
Such desperate attempts to downplay thebugs even when they are fully aware of these issues (hard to escape reading about it in guild chat or in game zone chat). Gotto love the acting though.
Excellent poll. Of course I used it for the same selfish purposes that the OP did.
I have adopted a wait and see attitude. I will not consider purchasing this game until it has been subjected to a great deal patching to fix its obvious issues.
So the ball, so to speak, is in Zenimax's court. If they commit to fixing the bugs and providing a steady stream of quality content, then I will purchase their game and happily pay for a sub.
If they cop out and go FTP, then I will avoid this product like the plague.
When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other in order that the people may require a leader. -- Plato
I will give it a year before I buy it. That will give me a good indication of their update cycle and the general state of the game.
The last seven or so years have left me with the conviction that very few games are worth the cost at launch time and if we the consumers wish for more complete games, we need to stop buying them before they are ready to be considered a solid, working product. I have come to the conclusion that my time is worth more than me paying for beta-testing a piece of entertainment software. I don't mind my opinion isn't shared by everybody else just as I don't mind other people are having a lot of fun already. More power to them.
I voted "Waiting for it to go F2P" even though that's not exactly what I do although it's propably the answer that's closest to the mark. To me it seems that the F2P model is becoming more and more honest when it comes to computer games, especially MMO games.
Originally posted by Tyserie You guys, wating for F2P, GOOD LUCK LOL
Alot of people have said what you just did about alot of games. Nearly all of them have gone free to play in the first year. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Don't confuse this with those other MMOrpgs. Like Tyserie said, if you're waiting for ESO to go free to play, good luck with that.
lol. No AH, massive game breaking bugs everywhere, no housing, and the most expensive to buy MMO just for the basic edition on the market in the last ten years. What makes you think this game is any better than anything out there other than the graphics?
So yes, you bet I will say it will go free to play. It's already proving it's heading in that direction and it hasn't even been a month. Even SWTOR didn't have this kind of massive break of the game that this dupe bug has caused.
Originally posted by Moirae Originally posted by NagilumSadowOriginally posted by MoiraeOriginally posted by TyserieYou guys, wating for F2P, GOOD LUCK LOL
Alot of people have said what you just did about alot of games. Nearly all of them have gone free to play in the first year. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Don't confuse this with those other MMOrpgs. Like Tyserie said, if you're waiting for ESO to go free to play, good luck with that. lol. No AH, massive game breaking bugs everywhere, no housing, and the most expensive to buy MMO just for the basic edition on the market in the last ten years. What makes you think this game is any better than anything out there other than the graphics?
So yes, you bet I will say it will go free to play. It's already proving it's heading in that direction and it hasn't even been a month. Even SWTOR didn't have this kind of massive break of the game that this dupe bug has caused.
nope, there are not massive game breaking bugs everywhere. are there bugs? yes, but lets not exaggerate just because you personally don't like the game.
oh and there has been duping in some of my favorite mmo's and online games of all time at one point or another, again lets not exaggerate here.
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Most only if you glitched to somewhere you weren't supposed to be.
A premier example to use as proof that this game was rushed out... it is their payment system, how in the seven hells could they cock up the means by which they get paid for the services rendered?
Issues this big most certainly not because I do not know about you but cheapening gaming as a whole by offering half-ass'd games for premium rates is not ok. This is tantamount to watching a movie with poor editing (some rare editing mistakes are ok but not when you can see the bloody microphone or notice the building near the character(s) is fake) and not complaining and/or demanding your money back for it.
That isn't spectacular... that is what a developer should be doing regardless of how broken or stable their game releases. Doing otherwise means that dev and possibly the publisher as well will suffer possibly even die.
Your movie example is not equitable. Look at automobiles with recalls. The value and worth of the product is subjective. I would not buy GW2 for $1 because I do not find it fun personally. Movies do not have issues that develop because suddenly 1 out of 1 million people did something no one else had done.
I did not say it was spectacular. It is what they should do, for me, to keep subscriptions. B2P games could basically give it to you and close the book because they owe you nothing but a functional product and functional is subjective.
I am not convinced that the game is un-playable with and uncaring company working to fix. I find it to be playable with bugs being worked on.
Totally regret buying it, after 25 levels on one character and 23 on another, its still bland and I hate the controls, its not for me but I gave it a go. The art and environment is really nice in the game but its just feeling like the same old thing. Not really into the story and expected bigger from PVP like DAOC. Not a fan of the limited skills available, feel held back. My wife is dragging me around in RIFT now with protest, I hate it too but its free to play and the controls are better. Get more bars to do crap with. Really hate the "Quick Bar" in ESO btw. I hope EQN delivers but I am afraid that will be another limited available skill set control type game.
And that excuses them how? It was their collective jobs to make sure the financial side worked without a hitch, it didn't.
Cars are prone to entropy, games are not, a car can break down from being used too much, a game built right shouldn't. Your example is flawed. Also movies do not develop issues, they already had them just like how games do not develop issues, they already had them (that 1 person will spot the microphone; those million people will show that the netcode, gamecode, etc was poorly designed/implemented/written ).
See World War Z/ Infestation survival stories (or however it is called now) for an example of how a developer can get nailed to a wall for fishy practices by their potential customer base and then comment with such ill-informed notions as B2P games could give it to you and close to book.
Then I pray it is how you think it is because right now it looks like ZOS and possibly BS are going EA on their consumer base.
Definitely annoying. I would agree that in some cases it's for console games, but in games like ESO, TSW, and WS it seems more designed for balance. Basically, to try not to make characters too strong. In games like wow, rift, and swtor lots of the abilities are more like different versions or upgrades of each other. In the limited action bar games your character would be considerably stronger if you could use all of there abilities at any time.
Games are prone to entropy. More on a server more problems. And many car recalls are defects in cars not found till in use by millions. Some code does not break till someone creates the condition.
I did mot say it was a good idea I said they could. I COULD go out and rob a bank does not mean it is smart. To me ZOS is doing what they should for me. Others have different opinions...some rob banks.
Bethesda has gotten away with releasing buggy stuff fix as the game progresses. Peoplehave accepted that before. I bet ZOS is surprised they did not get the same benefit. Not saying it is right but would not be surprised that they did not think they wpuld get away with this. At this time I do not think this was out of malice but bad expectations of community reaction. Otherwise they might have worked harder ironing these out before release.
My more slots are for the stuff on the quick slot wheel. Rather them just be out when that oh shit I need stam not health time comes up.
Customer's fault for them having a shit system? Good to know.
Code is subject to erratic changes based on whatever "pseudo-science" you think is valid? Gotcha (hint: nothing changes with the code, it lives and dies by how well it was written/created, the fact you even think it can be modified in any way by an entropic process, which does not exist in a virtual world, is proof that you are grasping at straws).
And some pay for sub-par services they could just as well get for free without nickle and dime-ing tactics.
Bethesda has released up until now SP/MP games with a up front charge and no monthly subscription. If their thought processes are in any way similar to the logic you just used ( "Uuuuuh lets launch a crappy game they gotta pay monthly for! not like we haven't launched shit games that they didn't have to pay monthly before") then they are arrogant and deserve to be kicked around for it because it is one thing to pay for a game and play it whenever you want however you want and an entirely different one to pay for it then pay for the privilege of playing it on their servers. See the difference?
Ok i've read every single post in this thread and it seems like the general consensus is, don't buy this game its shit.
Thanks for headsup lol, now i no why my gaming community said to avoid this one
Is it too late to change my vote to " wait till f2p" granted it will still be teh same game but atleast i can try it without wasting money needlessly. Maybe i shouldnt listen to you guys and make my own mind up but meh its ok i trust you lmao
You know nothing. The game is fine. What is shit is people bashing a game that just came out. The game is playable. Yeah some quests maybe bugged. but it doesn't break the game to where its not playable. Example: Vanguard. That game was UNPLAYBLE at launch, and was that way for half its life at SoE. If u want 60 bucks worth of entertainment for 30days buy. if u want to complain saying u want ur 60bucks back and waste it on seeing a 2hour movie. do that. There is only one opinion and that is yours. Quit listening to these bashers who raced to lvl 40+ in first 3 days then complain that a quest is broken.
Another person telling others to rush out and buy without taking into account what they are hearing from other people and reviews (including you). This is the surest possible way to get burned in general and no game regardless of IP, dev or publisher deserves exemption from scrutiny under a microscope to make sure all the i's are dotted.
actually the main issues of this game so far are not these you mention. There are serious problems with charging the credits cards, as i read and listen from youtube to twitch streams ... Also lets avoid the critics on the forums, but we see major professional journalists, writing on their reviews to take care before we go and buy this game. If only these 2 are not enough for you, for some people, who have respect for their money cause they work hard to gain them, counts ...
If it goes free to play, I'll quit. Right now I've subbed for 3 months, and really enjoy the game. Yeah there are some bugs, but it's a newly launched MMO, does anyone remember WoW when it first launched, it was a fricken nightmare.
This was a really biased poll, but I won't create a new one.
Anyways, I'm not resubbing. I initially planned to, but the game just doesn't seem ready for launch right now. I'm having fun with the game when I get to play, which is only really during my days off and casually at that, but the game is down more than usual for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance.
I've been playing MMORPG's since 2002 starting with DAoC and I've been apart of a handful of launched and this was the worse one yet. I've never had problems other than long que times, which speaks to the success of a game more than it being a fault, in past MMO releases.
Unless they compensate us for the bad launch by giving us extra free game-time, I won't be resubbing until they give me a free weekend or something. I won't pay to check in on a game I already shown faith in by preordering. It's their turn to show some goodwill and customer obsession.
As much as I liked the game, no way will I be giving money to downright stupid developers.
They knew about the dupe bug for so long and did nothing to fix it.
k, I was in the last three or four stress tests and at first the game was great, then it got more buggy so i cancelled my pre-order.
I have 2 LTS, EvE subbed, Eq2, GW2 & D3 all in use at same time (sleeping problems have benefit at last lol) the rest I use on odd times.
I decided even though people were slating the game i'd give it a chance seeing as you can get it for £20 with 30 days.
I made an siphon/archer nighblade (did want a sorc but they seemed no heal sucks) and went back to AD starter island. Well meant to but as I had ability for any race/faction it had created him in wrong one and after claiming mails i deleted. ESO have given me items back apparently on correctly made character in AD faction pretty sharpish.
Haven't encountered any bugs yet, have had a bit of ability delay which i never had in stres testing but hopefully that'll go.
So i say it's worth getting, I was going to wait 6 months but at £20 and them wanting you to put in sub info right away, it's hardly much. Less than a night at the pub, more than a pizza. Go for it. I got mine from Kinguin, they listed about 6 sites/prices. Base game, no perks was £20, with explorers £22, if you just want explorers dlc £1 odd
What Crashes I played all day friday the 18th and had no crashes, only had one this month(crash). and that was early on in the early access period, and have had all a patches installed.
I really like the game, but trying to pretend it isn't buggy as hell (even if you have been lucky enough not to experience them) is disingenuous.
Don't you love the posts where someone is quick to say 'what bugs? never happened to me so obviously its a trivial issue' or 'it never happened to me so it doesn't exist'.
Such desperate attempts to downplay thebugs even when they are fully aware of these issues (hard to escape reading about it in guild chat or in game zone chat). Gotto love the acting though.
Excellent poll. Of course I used it for the same selfish purposes that the OP did.
I have adopted a wait and see attitude. I will not consider purchasing this game until it has been subjected to a great deal patching to fix its obvious issues.
So the ball, so to speak, is in Zenimax's court. If they commit to fixing the bugs and providing a steady stream of quality content, then I will purchase their game and happily pay for a sub.
If they cop out and go FTP, then I will avoid this product like the plague.
When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other in order that the people may require a leader.
-- Plato
I will give it a year before I buy it. That will give me a good indication of their update cycle and the general state of the game.
The last seven or so years have left me with the conviction that very few games are worth the cost at launch time and if we the consumers wish for more complete games, we need to stop buying them before they are ready to be considered a solid, working product. I have come to the conclusion that my time is worth more than me paying for beta-testing a piece of entertainment software. I don't mind my opinion isn't shared by everybody else just as I don't mind other people are having a lot of fun already. More power to them.
I voted "Waiting for it to go F2P" even though that's not exactly what I do although it's propably the answer that's closest to the mark. To me it seems that the F2P model is becoming more and more honest when it comes to computer games, especially MMO games.
lol. No AH, massive game breaking bugs everywhere, no housing, and the most expensive to buy MMO just for the basic edition on the market in the last ten years. What makes you think this game is any better than anything out there other than the graphics?
So yes, you bet I will say it will go free to play. It's already proving it's heading in that direction and it hasn't even been a month. Even SWTOR didn't have this kind of massive break of the game that this dupe bug has caused.
Don't confuse this with those other MMOrpgs. Like Tyserie said, if you're waiting for ESO to go free to play, good luck with that.
lol. No AH, massive game breaking bugs everywhere, no housing, and the most expensive to buy MMO just for the basic edition on the market in the last ten years. What makes you think this game is any better than anything out there other than the graphics?
So yes, you bet I will say it will go free to play. It's already proving it's heading in that direction and it hasn't even been a month. Even SWTOR didn't have this kind of massive break of the game that this dupe bug has caused.
nope, there are not massive game breaking bugs everywhere. are there bugs? yes, but lets not exaggerate just because you personally don't like the game.
oh and there has been duping in some of my favorite mmo's and online games of all time at one point or another, again lets not exaggerate here.