For the first time i have to agree with the 5/10. Shit i would have said 4/10 or even 3/10.
I really wanted ESO to be something great but in the end it failed hard.
Just like Joe said there are many bugs, everything is rehashed to an extreme state (buildings, dungeons, models, monsters), lack of color, meaningless PvP, boring PVE quests with great voice acting (LoL?), and DUPES EVERYWHERE!!!! For fucks sake i have sent 100 tickets from beta to release and nothing got changed until what a few days ago? But they only fixed a few of the 6 dupe methods.
The game is great for the first few days until it dawns onto your face that this game is the same fucking thing over and over. VR content is just more leveling to do for NOTHING! Why must we be forced to quest? Why can't we just play PVP to level? WTF happened to dungeon XP? The answer lies in the horrid company named ZeniMax!
I played the ESO beta for a while, and then decided not to purchase the game. The combination of cash shop + initial purchase + subscription fee was just far too much, considering that the game didn't seem to offer somethig so amazing that I'd never have it in another game.
I haven't played the game so I can't really comment, I know my wife was in the beta two times and the client kept messing up so she couldn't even make a toon. We looked on forums, it was a common issue. I looked at some of the mechanics and also did a bit of postulating on what made a elder scrolls game great and could it translate into the online market. My answer was no. If 1/2 of the things the guy says are remotely true, the game deserves the rating it got.
The only game review that is worth anything is my own review of the game, I liked it and i play it. Don't see why anyone would play or not play a game based on someone others opinion other then their own.
I prefer to make my own opinion rather then have someone tell me my opinion of something.
Still playing, I have a level 30 nightblade hp draintank, and a 41 sorcerer DW pbaoe hybrid dps, and a level 9 bow/CC Templar
Combat only gets more evolved, and my choices and direction for character builds only get more creative.
Quests still engaging. (yes there are bugs. 90% of which are fixed if you log out/in which takes literally 12 seconds... I'm sorry if Exasperated Joe has the patience of an 8 year old.)
I'm sorry if you have NEVER played an mmo on release, but being able to log out and in as opposed to having to wait weeks/months for Sh*t to be fixed is way worse. Those that aren't repairable through logging are few and far between...also not new to mmo's.
Its sad that in this day and age people cant see .50$ a day as a good investment in this game, especially after reading 90% of these posts and noticing that people "don't even listen/read the quests" basically removing half the immersion and lore right there. Granted it has some of the traditional ways of leveling and grinding through stuff, its not meant to be played that way. (unless of course you realize that before buying into it and have an endgame pvp goal or something akin to that- I know several people who play JUST for this reason. cough cough Daoc players :P)
TO ALL THOSE WHO DON'T DIG THIS GAME:
This game is clearly not for you, go play another game.
The game you are looking for spams you w/ kill quests for zombie sheep that involve killing only 7 x the square root of infinity... no big deal.
Gives you epic weapons in your mailbox at level 2.. since it was such hard work getting there.Now you can one shot wave after wave zombie sheep until your eyes bleed.
blocking is for sissies. All characters have a shield slot... for their face! Now blocking shots and rolling over your keyboard will be almost effortless. : D
THIS GAME Power levels you from 1-200 in 14 minutes. 10 of those minutes are spent adjusting the boob slider on your character model.
Crafting.. pshhh who needs that. Everything drops 1000 gold. I buy what I want , when I want. JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE....
-_-
Horses that cost gold and take time to obtain... F**K THAT NOISE! This game gives you a nuclear powered rocket that goes as fast as the speed of light. In essence, you get to the boss in the dungeon before he is even born, and the loot is just sitting there, waiting for you.... it's like taking candy from a baby... literally.
This game also doesn't have words or sounds...because hey who needs that immersion sh*t, its ruining my music
In closing, I'm not a hater and if you don't like the game that's fine. I do think that Flabbergasted Joe makes valid points on other games and can be funny on occasion but I would just like to say, I must be getting old...because I feel like the majority of the people on here are like 12 and never got to experience the growing pains of mmo's and paid subs, which was only washed over temporarily by mostly shitty f2p games as of late.
This is all just my opinion.
-The Skooma Salesman in game ( ESO), feel free to send me some hatemail or a letterbomb D :
Damn, this guy really knows what he is talking about.
Originally posted by Hariken Great review from what i've heard . And i find it funny how alot of you are calling him a nobody and he sucks. But if he gave it a 10 you woulld be saying how spot on his reveiws are. His reveiws always carry weight in the gaming industry whether you like it or not.
Actually someone mentioned he gave GW2 a 10, and that loses all respect from me on that point alone. There has never been a 10 in the MMO space, and to give a newly launched game one means that the score has no sound basis.
But as for his 5 rating, that sounds quite reasonable actually, I am enjoying it but I can see how some of the PVE issues could drag down it's score, I couldn't put it much higher than a 6.5 to 7 at this point, mostly because I haven't really given the PVP a go yet, that might drag it up a bit for me.
One thing, the PVE might be more enjoyable once the number of people actually dies down. It's not nearly engaging right now when you have to struggle to kill a boss mob amid all the other players in the open world or one of the public dungeons that's totally bot infested currently.
i am 100% in agreement with you. I am totally loving this game and have not even gotten off Auridel (sp?) yet. Hit level 11 last night, until pvp kicked in on a fort which lasted about an hour or 2. I took over a woodmill for my guild (/flex).
How can you rate GW2 a 10 (which was absolutely horrible compared to GW1), when ESO has a shit ton more content and little places to explore, better combat, better story (GW2 does have better dynamic events - kinda sad the anchors are static thus far).
I agree on the phasing though, it is a pain in the ass, and ZOS needs to look into it more, and there should be more guild rewards for holding a keep/farm/woodmill, etc
Because GW2 is a better designed game. Even if the game itself had crap staying power and the ideas in it didn't pan out the way the developers envisioned. It seems like people are gut reacting to the score again without even knowing what that score means. It does NOT mean that someone is going to absolutely dislike the game guaranteed, it is indicative of problems with the design of the game that may eventually impact someones enjoyment of the game. If the issues AJ mentioned in the review aren't a problem for you all the more power to you.
Originally posted by Caldrin This guys reviews are usually pretty spot on.. this one is as well..
Translation: His view of the game is same as mine so its "spot on"
Exactly.
Only you can decide if and how much you will like a game. Reviews are worth a grain of salt. Everyone has an opinion and theirs might align with yours most of the time, but that doesn't mean their opinion is for everyone. Don't base your opinion of a game off someone's review without bothering to try the game. Don't say, "This game sucks!" just because someone else does. Play it or keep your opinions to a, "This game doesn't appeal to me enough to purchase it," level.
Last time I saw someone post an Angry Joe review here to bash a game a few days later he posted another one admitting that he was wrong in his review and he rated the game better.
sounds like your confusing the two first impressions videos AJ did for ESO, one on the PVE side of the game, which oddly enough, was rated very badly, and the second was the for PVP only side of the game, which he was much more impressed by, that btw, hasn't changed that much, if you check out the video's again you will see what i mean. At no point was there any 'admission of being wrong' in that at least you were entirely mistaken, just 2 first impression video's on different aspects of the game, with wildly differing results, much as is the actual ESO review video, the PvE scored badly because of all the problems and the grouping issues, not to mention the 101 broken things in quests etc, the PvP side of the game scored higher because it actually works better, but its not great even so because even that hasn't escaped the general 'bugginess' of the game, hence the overall score of only 5/10. What needs to happen is for Zenimax to fix their game, and then it be reviewed again. Remember the score is based on the game in its current state, which frankly, is not good.
- even if he provide facts with recorded videos i call w/e he shows as his opinion. as long as i use that word i can nullify anything. he is not an old MMO player. so he can't be right at all.
- nice review. now i feel better about myself since i didn't buy the game. VIVA F2P..
-oh Joe. he gave GW2 10/10. i lost all respect for him. he loved it too much.
- OMG his opinion is different than mine. how should i deal with my insecurities. i should nitpick him fast. if i post a wall of text that would be awesome.
-WoW had a bad launch. idc if it released ages ago. also even new ones are not good. it is customary for mmos to have bugs and stuff at launch. man up that's how it is at release. if you pay first you are "served" first
- Who is Joe? he is a random guy with funny threads around here. until we have a drink together and i know him better i just can't accept him. whether he proof some of the things he says with videos or not doesn't matter at all. listen to me i am not a random guy ok?
- he posted lots of ESO reviews. well the previous ones are not reviews and i know it but since he used that word i am gonna bash him haha. there is a chance that he might change his score and review too so how can i ever trust him? how can you? plus his videos doesn't have lots of views as i thought it would i was right after all.
- he gave the Witcher 2 an 8. DA2 a 7. how could he? DA2 is so bad it makes seagulls cry. even though the Witcher 1 shared at least some of DA2 problems i am gonna ignore it cuz we hate EA. i mean he loved DA: Origins so he had lots of expectations right? so why is he not bashing DA2 enough?
- i am a troll. here me roar.
hope those with popcorns are enjoying
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
- even if he provide facts with recorded videos i call w/e he shows as his opinion. as long as i use that word i can nullify anything. he is not an old MMO player. so he can't be right at all.
- nice review. now i feel better about myself since i didn't buy the game. VIVA F2P..
-oh Joe. he gave GW2 10/10. i lost all respect for him. he loved it too much.
- OMG his opinion is different than mine. how should i deal with my insecurities. i should nitpick him fast. if i post a wall of text that would be awesome.
-WoW had a bad launch. idc if it released ages ago. also even new ones are not good. it is customary for mmos to have bugs and stuff at launch. man up that's how it is at release. if you pay first you are "served" first
- Who is Joe? he is a random guy with funny threads around here. until we have a drink together and i know him better i just can't accept him. whether he proof some of the things he says with videos or not doesn't matter at all. listen to me i am not a random guy ok?
- he posted lots of ESO reviews. well the previous ones are not reviews and i know it but since he used that word i am gonna bash him haha. there is a chance that he might change his score and review too so how can i ever trust him? how can you? plus his videos doesn't have lots of views as i thought it would i was right after all.
- he gave the Witcher 2 an 8. DA2 a 7. how could he? DA2 is so bad it makes seagulls cry. even though the Witcher 1 shared at least some of DA2 problems i am gonna ignore it cuz we hate EA. i mean he loved DA: Origins so he had lots of expectations right? so why is he not bashing DA2 enough?
- even if he provide facts with recorded videos i call w/e he shows as his opinion. as long as i use that word i can nullify anything. he is not an old MMO player. so he can't be right at all.
- nice review. now i feel better about myself since i didn't buy the game. VIVA F2P..
-oh Joe. he gave GW2 10/10. i lost all respect for him. he loved it too much.
- OMG his opinion is different than mine. how should i deal with my insecurities. i should nitpick him fast. if i post a wall of text that would be awesome.
-WoW had a bad launch. idc if it released ages ago. also even new ones are not good. it is customary for mmos to have bugs and stuff at launch. man up that's how it is at release. if you pay first you are "served" first
- Who is Joe? he is a random guy with funny threads around here. until we have a drink together and i know him better i just can't accept him. whether he proof some of the things he says with videos or not doesn't matter at all. listen to me i am not a random guy ok?
- he posted lots of ESO reviews. well the previous ones are not reviews and i know it but since he used that word i am gonna bash him haha. there is a chance that he might change his score and review too so how can i ever trust him? how can you? plus his videos doesn't have lots of views as i thought it would i was right after all.
- he gave the Witcher 2 an 8. DA2 a 7. how could he? DA2 is so bad it makes seagulls cry. even though the Witcher 1 shared at least some of DA2 problems i am gonna ignore it cuz we hate EA. i mean he loved DA: Origins so he had lots of expectations right? so why is he not bashing DA2 enough?
- i am a troll. here me roar.
hope those with popcorns are enjoying
You were a bit early, you missed the latest one:
-I project my own life onto Joe such as to bring him down to my level with such ferocity that I blew a hole in my wall. Also he is obviously just in the crowd and aching to burn games like he usually does (oh wait..).
The only game review that is worth anything is my own review of the game, I liked it and i play it. Don't see why anyone would play or not play a game based on someone others opinion other then their own.
I prefer to make my own opinion rather then have someone tell me my opinion of something.
Because paying $60 to discover if a game is bad or not, in the face of many reported problems and/or shortcomings, is dumb.
The only game review that is worth anything is my own review of the game, I liked it and i play it. Don't see why anyone would play or not play a game based on someone others opinion other then their own.
I prefer to make my own opinion rather then have someone tell me my opinion of something.
Because paying $60 to discover if a game is bad or not, in the face of many reported problems and/or shortcomings, is dumb.
Heh, it's always
a) don't be a sheep, don't listen to reviews, be a man/woman and buy the game yourself, or
b) you preordered the game?!? Are you stoopid??1?! Wait for the reviews!!
I stopped at the part where he talks about killing 40,000 skeletons for a horse. If he's going to be intellectually dishonest enough to pretend that quest rewards and dropped gear don't exist and guild stores are hard to use then he isn't worth listening to. It isn't hard to get a horse.
Meanwhile Angry Joe is at 302 k views on his ESO review. Yup the guy is a nobody but 300,000 people in a day viewed that video. So that many people have watched the bugs on ESO . I'd be worried if I were Zenimax.
The IGN review in this section has 20 replies 545 views as opposed to the 348 posts and 5309 views on this thread and you guys are still questioning Angry Joe's impact.
i find it really funny how when he did his first eso review all the eso fanboi's cried saying he needed to give the game more time then he did and raised its scored and know they start crying again when he speaks the truth about the game, tbh i fully agree with the review ,games (eso) just to sub-par.
The only game review that is worth anything is my own review of the game, I liked it and i play it. Don't see why anyone would play or not play a game based on someone others opinion other then their own.
I prefer to make my own opinion rather then have someone tell me my opinion of something.
Because paying $60 to discover if a game is bad or not, in the face of many reported problems and/or shortcomings, is dumb.
Heh, it's always
a) don't be a sheep, don't listen to reviews, be a man/woman and buy the game yourself, or
b) you preordered the game?!? Are you stoopid??1?! Wait for the reviews!!
Don't listen to OFFICIAL reviews. Too many are subject to advertiser dollars.
The best you can hope for is reading player reviews and the odd bit at one of the video sites.
Meanwhile Angry Joe is at 302 k views on his ESO review. Yup the guy is a nobody but 300,000 people in a day viewed that video. So that many people have watched the bugs on ESO . I'd be worried if I were Zenimax.
The IGN review in this section has 20 replies 545 views as opposed to the 348 posts and 5309 views on this thread and you guys are still questioning Angry Joe's impact.
Also if likes/dislikes are any indication 24.842 likes versus 901 dislikes says even more.
soo people are taking reviews from some fat old guy being brodcast from him moms house...nice way to get your info there
who is he and why should we care? people are trying their best to burn down this and every new mmo that hits the market i just cant understand it
Exactly! We should be listening to sources like IGN who live in glorious homes funding by the game companies who pay them for a favorable review to hear what they have to say about a game! They know how to give a fair and balanced review of how good the game is based off the money the company throws at them to give such a great review ignoring silly things like "Flaws or issues" that are just silly points we should worry about!
Sounds legit and totally not a way to get ripped off buying bad games for listening to a paid for review!
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Good review , i agree 100% ..
Like i said before .. ESO is a half-baked Elder Scrolls game in a half-baked MMO shell
For the first time i have to agree with the 5/10. Shit i would have said 4/10 or even 3/10.
I really wanted ESO to be something great but in the end it failed hard.
Just like Joe said there are many bugs, everything is rehashed to an extreme state (buildings, dungeons, models, monsters), lack of color, meaningless PvP, boring PVE quests with great voice acting (LoL?), and DUPES EVERYWHERE!!!! For fucks sake i have sent 100 tickets from beta to release and nothing got changed until what a few days ago? But they only fixed a few of the 6 dupe methods.
The game is great for the first few days until it dawns onto your face that this game is the same fucking thing over and over. VR content is just more leveling to do for NOTHING! Why must we be forced to quest? Why can't we just play PVP to level? WTF happened to dungeon XP? The answer lies in the horrid company named ZeniMax!
Well, the review was ok I think.
I played the ESO beta for a while, and then decided not to purchase the game. The combination of cash shop + initial purchase + subscription fee was just far too much, considering that the game didn't seem to offer somethig so amazing that I'd never have it in another game.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
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The only game review that is worth anything is my own review of the game, I liked it and i play it. Don't see why anyone would play or not play a game based on someone others opinion other then their own.
I prefer to make my own opinion rather then have someone tell me my opinion of something.
Damn, this guy really knows what he is talking about.
Because GW2 is a better designed game. Even if the game itself had crap staying power and the ideas in it didn't pan out the way the developers envisioned. It seems like people are gut reacting to the score again without even knowing what that score means. It does NOT mean that someone is going to absolutely dislike the game guaranteed, it is indicative of problems with the design of the game that may eventually impact someones enjoyment of the game. If the issues AJ mentioned in the review aren't a problem for you all the more power to you.
Exactly.
Only you can decide if and how much you will like a game. Reviews are worth a grain of salt. Everyone has an opinion and theirs might align with yours most of the time, but that doesn't mean their opinion is for everyone. Don't base your opinion of a game off someone's review without bothering to try the game. Don't say, "This game sucks!" just because someone else does. Play it or keep your opinions to a, "This game doesn't appeal to me enough to purchase it," level.
sounds like your confusing the two first impressions videos AJ did for ESO, one on the PVE side of the game, which oddly enough, was rated very badly, and the second was the for PVP only side of the game, which he was much more impressed by, that btw, hasn't changed that much, if you check out the video's again you will see what i mean. At no point was there any 'admission of being wrong' in that at least you were entirely mistaken, just 2 first impression video's on different aspects of the game, with wildly differing results, much as is the actual ESO review video, the PvE scored badly because of all the problems and the grouping issues, not to mention the 101 broken things in quests etc, the PvP side of the game scored higher because it actually works better, but its not great even so because even that hasn't escaped the general 'bugginess' of the game, hence the overall score of only 5/10. What needs to happen is for Zenimax to fix their game, and then it be reviewed again. Remember the score is based on the game in its current state, which frankly, is not good.
man this thread is fun...i can't resist...sorry:
here is a little summary of this thread:
- PWND HAHA BURN ANGRY PPL. i FEED ON YOUR TEARS.
- even if he provide facts with recorded videos i call w/e he shows as his opinion. as long as i use that word i can nullify anything. he is not an old MMO player. so he can't be right at all.
- nice review. now i feel better about myself since i didn't buy the game. VIVA F2P..
-oh Joe. he gave GW2 10/10. i lost all respect for him. he loved it too much.
- OMG his opinion is different than mine. how should i deal with my insecurities. i should nitpick him fast. if i post a wall of text that would be awesome.
-WoW had a bad launch. idc if it released ages ago. also even new ones are not good. it is customary for mmos to have bugs and stuff at launch. man up that's how it is at release. if you pay first you are "served" first
- Who is Joe? he is a random guy with funny threads around here. until we have a drink together and i know him better i just can't accept him. whether he proof some of the things he says with videos or not doesn't matter at all. listen to me i am not a random guy ok?
- he posted lots of ESO reviews. well the previous ones are not reviews and i know it but since he used that word i am gonna bash him haha. there is a chance that he might change his score and review too so how can i ever trust him? how can you? plus his videos doesn't have lots of views as i thought it would i was right after all.
- he gave the Witcher 2 an 8. DA2 a 7. how could he? DA2 is so bad it makes seagulls cry. even though the Witcher 1 shared at least some of DA2 problems i am gonna ignore it cuz we hate EA. i mean he loved DA: Origins so he had lots of expectations right? so why is he not bashing DA2 enough?
- i am a troll. here me roar.
hope those with popcorns are enjoying
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
soo people are taking reviews from some fat old guy being brodcast from him moms house...nice way to get your info there
who is he and why should we care? people are trying their best to burn down this and every new mmo that hits the market i just cant understand it
Very much so.
Great summary
Did you just read op and posted?
This question has been asked like ten times already, and 100 times responded...
https://www.youtube.com/user/AngryJoeShow/videos
I'm not going to count them but 500+ videos give him a little credit. Much more than 300k posts...or 50...
And calling him a fat old guy living with his mom is rich, Specially when that's the average profile of mmorpg.com dwellers...
For what is worth you could be one XD.
Better than the "official reviews" at certain websites that are paid for with advertiser dollars.
You were a bit early, you missed the latest one:
-I project my own life onto Joe such as to bring him down to my level with such ferocity that I blew a hole in my wall. Also he is obviously just in the crowd and aching to burn games like he usually does (oh wait..).
Because paying $60 to discover if a game is bad or not, in the face of many reported problems and/or shortcomings, is dumb.
Heh, it's always
a) don't be a sheep, don't listen to reviews, be a man/woman and buy the game yourself, or
b) you preordered the game?!? Are you stoopid??1?! Wait for the reviews!!
Meanwhile Angry Joe is at 302 k views on his ESO review. Yup the guy is a nobody but 300,000 people in a day viewed that video. So that many people have watched the bugs on ESO . I'd be worried if I were Zenimax.
The IGN review in this section has 20 replies 545 views as opposed to the 348 posts and 5309 views on this thread and you guys are still questioning Angry Joe's impact.
Don't listen to OFFICIAL reviews. Too many are subject to advertiser dollars.
The best you can hope for is reading player reviews and the odd bit at one of the video sites.
The second bit I agree with.
Also if likes/dislikes are any indication 24.842 likes versus 901 dislikes says even more.
Exactly! We should be listening to sources like IGN who live in glorious homes funding by the game companies who pay them for a favorable review to hear what they have to say about a game! They know how to give a fair and balanced review of how good the game is based off the money the company throws at them to give such a great review ignoring silly things like "Flaws or issues" that are just silly points we should worry about!
Sounds legit and totally not a way to get ripped off buying bad games for listening to a paid for review!
/sarcasm.