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Wildstar still in the top 20 most played PC games

TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310

I guess as everyone who has actually been playing has been saying the game isnt doing as bad as others would like to think. Its sad that this game doesnt get more credit being a unknown IP and beating out other MMOs that have a huge following.

Wildstar is obviously doing well for itself and its good to see it, this doesnt include the huge patch that happened at the end of the month obviously that people seem to be enjoying.

Im not playing Wildstar but I enjoy the when the Underdog can beat out these games that were thought to be much bigger than it turned out to be.

 

http://caas.raptr.com/most-played-pc-games-july-2014-summers-winners-and-losers/

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  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874

    Did you read the article?  I quote: -

    "The new MMO WildStar lost seven spots in its second month of release — but more worryingly, gameplay was down 45.63%. We’ll see if its latest PvP game mode, Sabotage, launched on July 31, can help spur a rebound, though initial signs point towards probably not."

  • TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by PioneerStew

    Did you read the article?  I quote: -

    "The new MMO WildStar lost seven spots in its second month of release — but more worryingly, gameplay was down 45.63%. We’ll see if its latest PvP game mode, Sabotage, launched on July 31, can help spur a rebound, though initial signs point towards probably not."

    Its an MMO that about average. ESO dropped more than 50% the first month.

  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487
    Glad to see it still doing well despite the haters.  It's a solid game for sure!
  • KaladinKaladin Member Posts: 468
    Yeah, who would ever read context from a cited article when they're trying to make a point.

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  • Iceman8235Iceman8235 Member UncommonPosts: 205
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games so if anything this post only serves to further show the issues Wildstar is having with populations dropping.  It's natural for an MMO to lose some of its players after the first month, but not nearly as many as Wildstar is losing.
  • cerulean2012cerulean2012 Member UncommonPosts: 492

    I just want this to be pointed out also:

    "Note: The Share number by each game represents that title’s gameplay time as a percentage of the total time spent on all the PC games played by Raptr members, and is useful for comparing the relative amount of playtime between particular games."

    Now I do want to see Wildstar do well but this needs to be taken in context.  This is only a list of Raptor members.  It is possible that non-raptor members are playing Wildstar ever more, f course it is always possible that it is played even less.

    So only brag about it from the point of Raptor because without actual numbers from non-raptor players it is just a guess.

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Originally posted by Spankster77
    Glad to see it still doing well despite the haters.  It's a solid game for sure!

    Game could be a killer, but unfortunately Carbine is clueless and unable. Same story as with Rift and Trion or AoC and Funcom.

    Another game with potential beyond it's studio's capabilities, wasted by amateurs.

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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by PioneerStew

    Did you read the article?  I quote: -

    "The new MMO WildStar lost seven spots in its second month of release — but more worryingly, gameplay was down 45.63%. We’ll see if its latest PvP game mode, Sabotage, launched on July 31, can help spur a rebound, though initial signs point towards probably not."

    Its an MMO that about average. ESO dropped more than 50% the first month.

    So, it's about which fish stinks the most? 

    And no, ESO didn't drop 50% in the first month. Close to 800K subs is a number that Carbine can't even dream about.

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games

    top 20 list from Ops link

  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games so if anything this post only serves to further show the issues Wildstar is having with populations dropping.  It's natural for an MMO to lose some of its players after the first month, but not nearly as many as Wildstar is losing.

    Really you can't name 20 PC games??  Cause titles like GW2, SWTOR, and ESO, all which ranked lower, are so obscure? 

     

     

  • TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by PioneerStew

    Did you read the article?  I quote: -

    "The new MMO WildStar lost seven spots in its second month of release — but more worryingly, gameplay was down 45.63%. We’ll see if its latest PvP game mode, Sabotage, launched on July 31, can help spur a rebound, though initial signs point towards probably not."

    Its an MMO that about average. ESO dropped more than 50% the first month.

    So, it's about which fish stinks the most? 

    And no, ESO didn't drop 50% in the first month. Close to 800K subs is a number that Carbine can't even dream about.

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games

    top 20 list from Ops link

    So, Wildstar dropped 7 spots just 1 month after release. This should not be the case with an newly released and ambitious MMO. I'm ready to bet that in August's list it won't make the top 20.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by PioneerStew

    Did you read the article?  I quote: -

    "The new MMO WildStar lost seven spots in its second month of release — but more worryingly, gameplay was down 45.63%. We’ll see if its latest PvP game mode, Sabotage, launched on July 31, can help spur a rebound, though initial signs point towards probably not."

    Its an MMO that about average. ESO dropped more than 50% the first month.

    So, it's about which fish stinks the most? 

    And no, ESO didn't drop 50% in the first month. Close to 800K subs is a number that Carbine can't even dream about.

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    What does it really matter?

     

    I enjoy both games, my play time for both has dropped by about 90% which has more to do with summer time then it does with quality or content of either game.

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  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487
    Originally posted by TankYou88

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    Bro, we don't need your facts cluttering up this thread, let's just stick to speculation! 

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Originally posted by Nadia
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games

    top 20 list from Ops link

    So, Wildstar dropped 7 spots just 1 month after release. This should not be the case with an newly released and ambitious MMO. I'm ready to bet that in August's list it won't make the top 20.

    Yeah, I am not entirely sure where the positive spin came from?  Even the author of the article the OP links is overwhelmingly negative (see my quote above).  

    Yes, other poorly received mmo's have done badly immediately after release; but this can hardly be used as a measure of success for anyone.  

  • Iceman8235Iceman8235 Member UncommonPosts: 205
    Originally posted by Spankster77
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games so if anything this post only serves to further show the issues Wildstar is having with populations dropping.  It's natural for an MMO to lose some of its players after the first month, but not nearly as many as Wildstar is losing.

    Really you can't name 20 PC games??  Cause titles like GW2, SWTOR, and ESO, all which ranked lower, are so obscure? 

     

     

    GW2 and SWTOR aren't current, they've both been out for years.  It would be unfair to compare the popularity of a game that game out 2 years ago with a game that came out two months ago.  Wildstar will be lucky to even exist in 2 years, let alone have a solid player base.  In other news, I'm happy to see Smite doing well, it has so much potential and I hope to see it continue to rise.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by TankYou88
     

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    On Raptr... You keep applying this data as if it's universal rankings for either game...it's not. It's a sample size of users of an application. If it's anything like Xfire it could only be around a 100 players in total being tracked. In games with hundreds of thousands of players it says nothing of the bigger picture.

    I really don't care which game is doing better, it doesn't matter at all to me. Either way this isn't the way to tell.

     

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  • TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    Originally posted by Spankster77
    Originally posted by Iceman8235
    I don't think I can even name 20 current PC games so if anything this post only serves to further show the issues Wildstar is having with populations dropping.  It's natural for an MMO to lose some of its players after the first month, but not nearly as many as Wildstar is losing.

    Really you can't name 20 PC games??  Cause titles like GW2, SWTOR, and ESO, all which ranked lower, are so obscure? 

     

     

    GW2 and SWTOR aren't current, they've both been out for years.  It would be unfair to compare the popularity of a game that game out 2 years ago with a game that came out two months ago.  Wildstar will be lucky to even exist in 2 years, let alone have a solid player base.

    Thats what they said about SWTOR but is somehow topping the income charts.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818

    The biggest problem with widlstar is no one cares. The haters here hardly even try and hate on the game. All they ever really say is it's numbers are going down or they wouldn't give me my money back.

    Now look at ESO and SWTOR. Those people have a really passionate hate towards a computer game. Bring up ESO and you have 17 pages of rage in less than an hour. SWTOR has some of the craziest haters on the internet. No amount of success will ever convince then that the game hasn't lost BILLIONS!!! and is the root of all evil.

    Again..wildstar hater..." meh it's not really all that great and no one seems to be playing it "

  • TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by TankYou88
     

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    On Raptr... You keep applying this data as if it's universal rankings for either game...it's not. It's a sample size of users of an application. If it's anything like Xfire it could only be around a 100 players in total being tracked. In games with hundreds of thousands of players it says nothing of the bigger picture.

     

    You do know how small the samples are for how the nation is going to vote dont you? Raptr is much bigger than xfire and includes xfires numbers as well.

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    The biggest problem with widlstar is no one cares. The haters here hardly even try and hate on the game. All they ever really say is it's numbers are going down or they wouldn't give me my money back.

    Now look at ESO and SWTOR. Those people have a really passionate hate towards a computer game. Bring up ESO and you have 17 pages of rage in less than an hour. SWTOR has some of the craziest haters on the internet. No amount of success will ever convince then that the game hasn't lost BILLIONS!!! and is the root of all evil.

    Again..wildstar hater..." meh it's not really all that great and no one seems to be playing it "

    True, general indifference is probably a pretty bad place for a game to be.  

    That said, SWTOR was viewed by some as a successor to SWG with a huge IP, and likewise ESO was a huge IP with massively successful SP games to live up to; they were bound to elicit a more frenzied response.   

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by TankYou88
     

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    On Raptr... You keep applying this data as if it's universal rankings for either game...it's not. It's a sample size of users of an application. If it's anything like Xfire it could only be around a 100 players in total being tracked. In games with hundreds of thousands of players it says nothing of the bigger picture.

     

    You do know how small the samples are for how the nation is going to vote dont you? Raptr is much bigger than xfire and includes xfires numbers as well.

    Look I used to do this for a living, if I had the time or the will power to explain this in detail to you I would,I don't... I used to do those political polls you're referring to... You're trying to use a sample of a sample....Xfire and Raptr themselves are simply samples in and of themselves. The greater majority of either game is not represented in these samples.

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    Originally posted by DamonVile

    The biggest problem with widlstar is no one cares. The haters here hardly even try and hate on the game. All they ever really say is it's numbers are going down or they wouldn't give me my money back.

    Now look at ESO and SWTOR. Those people have a really passionate hate towards a computer game. Bring up ESO and you have 17 pages of rage in less than an hour. SWTOR has some of the craziest haters on the internet. No amount of success will ever convince then that the game hasn't lost BILLIONS!!! and is the root of all evil.

    Again..wildstar hater..." meh it's not really all that great and no one seems to be playing it "

    image   Great point, it just seems no one cares.

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  • ShorunShorun Member UncommonPosts: 247

    Maybe Wildstar doesn't need a huge playerbase to be successful.

    EVE is running since 2005 with a loyal playerbase and still seems to be doing well. SWTOR, which a lot of people see as a flop, is nr. 20 on this list and also seems to be making profit. What does that tell us about the future of Wildstar? Nothing. Cause we haven't seen their business plan.

    But I'm sure as hell they have a F2P active-account-number-threshold. Any MMORPG coming out today has. But why not grab the money from initial sales and subscriptions while you can?

  • TankYou88TankYou88 Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by TankYou88
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by TankYou88
     

    Yes. Game time played for ESO dropped by 54% from april to may. Also we have no idea when that 770k figure came from, could be from the first month before all the refunds. We only know that after 4 months ESO is being played less than 20% of what it was the first month.

    On Raptr... You keep applying this data as if it's universal rankings for either game...it's not. It's a sample size of users of an application. If it's anything like Xfire it could only be around a 100 players in total being tracked. In games with hundreds of thousands of players it says nothing of the bigger picture.

     

    You do know how small the samples are for how the nation is going to vote dont you? Raptr is much bigger than xfire and includes xfires numbers as well.

    Look I used to do this for a living, if I had the time or the will power to explain this in detail to you I would,I don't... I used to do those political polls you're referring to... You're trying to use a sample of a sample....Xfire and Raptr themselves are simply samples in and of themselves. The greater majority of either game is not represented in these samples.

    So the samples that poll around 500 people to represent the 120 million people that vote with a 97% confidence are some how more accurate than the few hundred people for 2 games sampled for about 30 million players it targets?  

    Not saying its 100% accurate but its probably pretty close to the truth.

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