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AA is no longer pay to win.

filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906

Ok sorry But I changed this thread because this game is no longer pay to win.  Everything is affordable now to an average player.  The launch of Auroria made huge changes to the economy and I like it.

Are you onto something or just on something?
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  • cerulean2012cerulean2012 Member UncommonPosts: 492

    Really??? These threads are getting tiresome.  How many AA is or is not p2w threads are there going to be?

    Enough already, find one of the many aa p2w threads and post there.

  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689

    They just added archaeum trees to the cash shop.  Now you can grow your own archeum needed for the best gear in the game using your credit card!!!

     

    But totally not pay to win, I assure you!!! REALLY!

     

    But in all seriousness, you probably should have just posted your post as a reply to the "Why AA is not P2W" thread.

  • kidtiggakidtigga Member UncommonPosts: 4
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    You can only plant them in auroria I thought. 
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

  • kidtiggakidtigga Member UncommonPosts: 4
    i have a full set of magnificent gear did not pay 1 cent towards getting it payed everything with ingame gold even payed for my membership for 10month with ingame gold so plz tell me how it is pay to win?
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    i have a full set of magnificent gear

    Is that supposed to be impressive?

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    i have a full set of magnificent gear did not pay 1 cent towards getting it payed everything with ingame gold even payed for my membership for 10month with ingame gold so plz tell me how it is pay to win?

    Yea I believe if you read the post I just made that gear can be obtained in 56 hours of straight up farming.  If you're lucky enough to have someone to trade with so you can get a real set and not a mixmatch set.  However I'd like to learn how you got started without paying anything.  Unless you got the apex when it was 35 gold each.  That would explain a few things but even then you are saying you have paid over 7k gold on apex.  How did you make such money? 

    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

    For you?  Nothing.  My post was not for you.  I do not care what you think about archaeum saplings.

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Thunderstruck trees are already down to 100g because they're in the cash shop, and it's still falling.
  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

    For you?  Nothing.  My post was not for you.  I do not care what you think about archaeum saplings.

    Who's your post for then if not for folks like me lol ....I mean what's the purpose of your post if it's not for people that play the game ?

     

  • ThestrainThestrain Member CommonPosts: 390
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

    For you?  Nothing.  My post was not for you.  I do not care what you think about archaeum saplings.

    Who's your post for then if not for folks like me lol ....I mean what's the purpose of your post if it's not for people that play the game ?

     

    I think he means his post is not for the fans with blind folds. They won't see anything wrong with the game.

    Moreover didn't you claim that AA has only 5% forced PVP in another topic. So you sure you even play the game? 

  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

    For you?  Nothing.  My post was not for you.  I do not care what you think about archaeum saplings.

    Who's your post for then if not for folks like me lol ....I mean what's the purpose of your post if it's not for people that play the game ?

     

    It's not for you (for reasons TheStrain stated).  I never said it wasn't for people that play the game.  That you happen to play the game as well is but a mere coincidence.

  • ohioastroohioastro Member UncommonPosts: 534

    They moved thunderstruck trees - a random but highly valuable drop - into the cash shop.

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?114438-TS-Tree-market-officially-dead.

    So, the moral appears to be that they can take anything valuable in the game and sell it in the cash shop (with no notice)...

    this matters for reasons that go beyond the relevant item.  If you have a player-driven economy and something becomes perceived as useful people build their strategies around it.  If they just turn around and sell these things in the shop it ruins those players financially.  And it creates a really perverse set of incentives: if something is useful in game, just wait and it'll be available on your credit card in a few weeks.

  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772

    This is a very eloquent explanation why the game is p2w:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG06WAxoR9k&feature=youtu.be

  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    So don't play it, problem solved.

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  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by ohioastro

    They moved thunderstruck trees - a random but highly valuable drop - into the cash shop.

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?114438-TS-Tree-market-officially-dead.

    So, the moral appears to be that they can take anything valuable in the game and sell it in the cash shop (with no notice)...

    this matters for reasons that go beyond the relevant item.  If you have a player-driven economy and something becomes perceived as useful people build their strategies around it.  If they just turn around and sell these things in the shop it ruins those players financially.  And it creates a really perverse set of incentives: if something is useful in game, just wait and it'll be available on your credit card in a few weeks.

    So how does that make the move P2W .....thunderstruck tree were worth 500g and only the hard working and rich could afford ...now anyone can afford a thunder struck tree ? ....Explain how that's pay to win?

  • Bad.dogBad.dog Member UncommonPosts: 1,131
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by TiamatRoar
    Originally posted by kidtigga
    you can buy archeum tree's for 3gilda's or 1gold

    I mean tthe rumbling archaeum saplings.

    So what?

     

    For you?  Nothing.  My post was not for you.  I do not care what you think about archaeum saplings.

    Who's your post for then if not for folks like me lol ....I mean what's the purpose of your post if it's not for people that play the game ?

     

    It's not for you (for reasons TheStrain stated).  I never said it wasn't for people that play the game.  That you happen to play the game as well is but a mere coincidence.

    the fact you haven't a clue as to what rumbling archaeum  saplings do ,,,is more a reflection of your post history then anything else  but  again I'm sure that taking something that cost 500 gold and making it available for 100 g is P2W ...just not sure how ?

  • StrieferStriefer Member UncommonPosts: 62

    I had been holding onto my thunderstruck tree to wait for demand to rise. This unannounced CASH SHOP chest has destroyed the value of this. With my limited time to play from work, this has destroyed my motivation to even log in. Am now looking into other games. There have been numerous other fails by this company as well up to this point. Just the last straw.

     

    For anyone still interested in this game, it is PAY TO WIN.  Be prepared.

  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    the fact you haven't a clue as to what rumbling archaeum  saplings do ,,,is more a reflection of your post history then anything else  but  again I'm sure that taking something that cost 500 gold and making it available for 100 g is P2W ...just not sure how ?

    Your ad homenim attack on the reflection of my post history is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

     

    As for why it's P2W, I could explain, but I see no point in explaining it to you.  My posts aren't for you, I don't care what you think is pay-to-win or not, and I don't care whether or not you know what pay-to-win is.  However, I will be  benevolent and provide you a wonderful link to a forum filled with posts on the subject of pay-to-win in this case.  Whether or not it educates you on why this is pay-to-win, I don't care.  But I'm feeling nice today so I will give you the tools with which to learn anyways.  It is up to you whether or not to take advantage of my generosity, although I honestly don't care if you gain anything from this wisdom or not.

     

    Here, you will find many posts about pay-to-win on this forum. They're all over the place.  Feel free to peruse them at your leisure.

     

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/forumdisplay.php?2-General-Discussion

  • ohioastroohioastro Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Originally posted by Bad.dog
    Originally posted by ohioastro

    They moved thunderstruck trees - a random but highly valuable drop - into the cash shop.

    http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?114438-TS-Tree-market-officially-dead.

    So, the moral appears to be that they can take anything valuable in the game and sell it in the cash shop (with no notice)...

    this matters for reasons that go beyond the relevant item.  If you have a player-driven economy and something becomes perceived as useful people build their strategies around it.  If they just turn around and sell these things in the shop it ruins those players financially.  And it creates a really perverse set of incentives: if something is useful in game, just wait and it'll be available on your credit card in a few weeks.

    So how does that make the move P2W .....thunderstruck tree were worth 500g and only the hard working and rich could afford ...now anyone can afford a thunder struck tree ? ....Explain how that's pay to win?

    Because anything of actual value in-game can end up in a cash shop with no warning, eliminating its value?  Because players put a lot of effort into getting them, and farming for them, only to have their investments erased for a cash shop purchase?
     

    There is a world of difference between adjusting rarity and selling something for cash, no?

  • tet666tet666 Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Originally posted by holdenhamlet

    This is a very eloquent explanation why the game is p2w:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG06WAxoR9k&feature=youtu.be

    Eloquent my ass.... The only thing he says is fuck.

  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    Originally posted by cerulean2012

    Really??? These threads are getting tiresome.  How many AA is or is not p2w threads are there going to be?

    Enough already, find one of the many aa p2w threads and post there.

    Actually we need these threads until there are P2W games. P2W is the worst thing in MMO genre.

    Edit: I'm not against AA, I'm against P2W crap that threatens to kill my hobby.

  • farbegefarbege Member UncommonPosts: 305

    Its a good thing that TS trees going down now. It was incredible unjustified to have relying lucky guys selling them for 1000g+ .

    It would be also a good sign IF the game was really P2W cause casual plyers with a job can compete against the no job basement  dwellers but unfortunately io dont see its p2w.

    The hypothetical person that started the exact time like yourself and you race against and meet in a 1 vs 1 Arena to beat and win against  just doesnt exist in 99,999999% of the cases.

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