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If you started MMOs after 2005, Thank you for killing the genre!

l2avisml2avism Member UncommonPosts: 386

If you started MMOs after 2005, Thank you for killing the genre!

 

What?! Somebody has to let the cat out of the bag.

Back then most MMO's were worth playing. Then game companies started dragging in riff raff from the console and warcraft markets which turned the entire genre from something that once was Applebees into mcDonalds.

You mad? Don't get mad. Educate yourself. Go download and try playing older games. Through enlightenment you can cast aside that cloak of inferiority and exchange it for a golden cloak of wisdom. 

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  • anthony21690anthony21690 Member UncommonPosts: 119
    Originally posted by l2avism

    If you started MMOs after 2005, Thank you for killing the genre!

     

    What?! Somebody has to let the cat out of the bag.

    Back then most MMO's were worth playing. Then game companies started dragging in riff raff from the console and warcraft markets which turned the entire genre from something that once was Applebees into mcDonalds.

    You mad? Don't get mad. Educate yourself. Go download and try playing older games. Through enlightenment you can cast aside that cloak of inferiority and exchange it for a golden cloak of wisdom. 

    Insinuating that just because they started after 2005 means they're the ones pushing out the bad games and the likes.  Okay.

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196

    You been left behind and the genre has passed you by.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722

    opinion and ignorance are not the same thing.

     

    In before the lock.





  • l2avisml2avism Member UncommonPosts: 386
    Originally posted by rojoArcueid

    opinion and ignorance are not the same thing.

     

    In before the lock.

     

    Is an opinion based on ignorance not also ignorance?

    If I drink my milk with peanutt butter does that not also make me a cabbage?

  • ozmonoozmono Member UncommonPosts: 1,211

    I started playing MMORPGs in 2005 and yet I'm a sandbox gamer. I've played UO and pre-cu SWG emulations. I've also played and supported many sandbox games that came after. Not all of us who starting playing them in 2005 love games like WoW and need condescending education about the alternatives. While I'm at it, you could have atleast tried to make the point as to why your preferred type of game is better rather then just claiming they are riff raff and implying as a result that you are somehow better than them and they are guilty or "destroying the genre". That's just nonsense, video game preferences are just that, preferences.

  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Aweyis i'm hardcore :'D

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    The only difference between now and then is the number of games available.  Games still have the same problems, being rushed out before ready, trolls, bugs, gold sellers, game breaking changes made by devs, cash shops (gold sellers ran those back then).

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  • l2avisml2avism Member UncommonPosts: 386


    Originally posted by ozmono I started playing MMORPGs in 2005 and yet I'm a sandbox gamer. I've played UO and pre-cu SWG emulations. I've also played and supported many sandbox games that came after. Not all of us who starting playing them in 2005 love games like WoW and need condescending education about the alternatives. While I'm at it, you could have atleast tried to make the point as to why your preferred type of game is better rather then just claiming they are riff raff and implying as a result that you are somehow better than them and they are guilty or "destroying the genre". That's just nonsense, video game preferences are just that, preferences.
     

    You didn't read the entire post. You just read the title, got mad, replied with this and basically said that you did what I recommended doing :o.

    This:


    You mad? Don't get mad. Educate yourself. Go download and try playing older games. Through enlightenment you can cast aside that cloak of inferiority and exchange it for a golden cloak of wisdom.

    Saying that the genre isn't destroyed is fairly ignorant though. Haven't you noticed that the failure rate is like 90% these days?

    People have basically given up on MMOs.

     

  • greenbow54greenbow54 Member UncommonPosts: 128

    Go play older games? No thanks. The graphics suck, the gameplay is dated, and they have as much depth as a pencil drawing. Sorry, take off your rose colored glasses, because they're cracked.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by l2avism

    If you started MMOs after 2005, Thank you for killing the genre!

    Yeh! All you 10 Million plus people that have joined the genre since then (probably double that), when there only 500K at the most playing any one game,....you're fired! 

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  • l2avisml2avism Member UncommonPosts: 386
    Originally posted by greenbow54

    Go play older games? No thanks. The graphics suck, the gameplay is dated, and they have as much depth as a pencil drawing. Sorry, take off your rose colored glasses, because they're cracked.

    You have that reversed. Older games had depth. So much depth that the typical player never actually saw the entire game.

  • ozmonoozmono Member UncommonPosts: 1,211
    Originally posted by l2avism

     


    Originally posted by ozmono I started playing MMORPGs in 2005 and yet I'm a sandbox gamer. I've played UO and pre-cu SWG emulations. I've also played and supported many sandbox games that came after. Not all of us who starting playing them in 2005 love games like WoW and need condescending education about the alternatives. While I'm at it, you could have atleast tried to make the point as to why your preferred type of game is better rather then just claiming they are riff raff and implying as a result that you are somehow better than them and they are guilty or "destroying the genre". That's just nonsense, video game preferences are just that, preferences.
     

     

    You didn't read the entire post. You just read the title, got mad, replied with this and basically said that you did what I recommended doing :o.

    This:

     


    You mad? Don't get mad. Educate yourself. Go download and try playing older games. Through enlightenment you can cast aside that cloak of inferiority and exchange it for a golden cloak of wisdom.

     

    Saying that the genre isn't destroyed is fairly ignorant though. Haven't you noticed that the failure rate is like 90% these days?

    People have basically given up on MMOs.

     

    No I read the post but you didn't appear to read mine. "Not all of us who starting playing them in 2005 love games like WoW and need condescending education about the alternatives" 

  • VahidVahid Member UncommonPosts: 55


    Something that once was Applebee's?  High standards there OP.

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by l2avism
    Originally posted by greenbow54

    Go play older games? No thanks. The graphics suck, the gameplay is dated, and they have as much depth as a pencil drawing. Sorry, take off your rose colored glasses, because they're cracked.

    You have that reversed. Older games had depth. So much depth that the typical player never actually saw the entire game.

    Ah yes, the old quantity over quality argument.

     

    I've been playing since before you could stay up past 9 on school nights. The old ones were a good start and full of warts that got ironed out over time. You sure you played UO, EQ or AC at release?

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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,368
    yeah blame the players ~~ and not the devs that created the mmorpgs ....
  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Originally posted by Skuall
    yeah blame the players ~~ and not the devs that created the mmorpgs ....

    Runescape3 VS OldschoolRunescape

     

    is a prime example

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  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,224
    Originally posted by Vahid


    Something that once was Applebee's?  High standards there OP.

    Right? I laughed so hard at this! 

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  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685

    OP, the individuals themselves know best if they are responsible for the products today and if it will remain more of the same or not based on what products they've chosen and keep choosing to spend their $.

    World of Warcraft is one casual, themepark MMORPG most of us choose to spend our $ on, and that has had a partial side effect on todays state of the genre. Rest assured though World of Warcraft despite being the theme park on rails it is without doubt it was done on a very high level...unlike the rest of its clones, so its success is well earned and deserved.

    I did continue to spend my $ on similar products later on like Aion and DC Universe Online, but those were the last. So, again everyone here knows how much they've contributed to what's out there and will be coming based on their spending choices.

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  • mbrodiembrodie Member RarePosts: 1,504

    The other thing is McDonalds has continued to grow as a business and get better with time... i dont know about your country, but in my country they offer a gourmet style "build your own burger, which you design on a tablet in the restaurant with a selection of buns, cheeses, fresh ingredients etc... and then you get table service, where they bring your order out to you with your fries in a little fries basket etc... so it's kind of like getting a quality restaurant burger but at mcdonalds....

     

     

    so i mean honestly, it's a really terrible comparison you've made.

  • LordZeikLordZeik Member UncommonPosts: 276
    Dunno if I should tell this guy there were plenty of bad mmorpg's before 2005. Might make him cringe a bit. You want to know what really is ruining this genre? People who shell out insane amounts of money for just about anything. Course people are going to make cookie cutter mmos when that's the kinda customer base they got to look forward to.
  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081
    I'm with you OP :)
  • RivolRivol Member UncommonPosts: 79
    If you started playing Space Invaders after 1978, thank you for killing pin ball
  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
    If you start watching TV after the 60's...thank you for killing the radio?

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Ok OP, I started playing before 2005 and have played up until now. Did I aid or hinder the genre? What a silly discussion. o.O

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    Originally posted by mbrodie

    The other thing is McDonalds has continued to grow as a business and get better with time... i dont know about your country, but in my country they offer a gourmet style "build your own burger, which you design on a tablet in the restaurant with a selection of buns, cheeses, fresh ingredients etc... and then you get table service, where they bring your order out to you with your fries in a little fries basket etc... so it's kind of like getting a quality restaurant burger but at mcdonalds....

     

     

    so i mean honestly, it's a really terrible comparison you've made.

    That's an experiment McDonald's is doing in specific cities from what I've read. They've been losing a lot of business lately, and it's only getting worse. I had no idea they were testing the waters in Countries such as Australia. Very cool, and thank you for sharing the pic. I'd be back at McDonald's in a heart beat if they offered that type of experience in my city. image

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