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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
The more i see thread like this the more i am starting to think that they are just lazy at research and wish for people to give them links to answers.
Seriously soon the will tell us MS use private ports in there OS to spy on us, etc. And that we need to block them to make sure we are safe. This is not the cold war, not everyone wants to know what porn site you visit or what dating site you go at.
Yes they will push update regardless but the only thing windows update looks at, is what updates you already have and what can be offered to you as a customer of there operating system. That is what it scans for, and only that.
If you don't want them to track stuff etc. you are requested to disable that at install and can even do it later after install : Website tracking, error reporting service, etc. Just disable them in the control panel and voila. By the way every OS on the market even linux does that. Welcome to 2015!
Windows wont download updates on connections you mark as metered. This ensures Windows wont waste valuable tethering data or other mobile data on updates that can wait until it reaches a solid, unrestricted Wi-Fi network. To prevent Windows from downloading updates on a specific connection, first connect to that WI-Fi network.
Next, open the WI-Fi settings panel and select Network settings, or open the Settings app and select Network & Internet. Scroll down in the list of Wi-Fi networks and select Advanced options. Activate the Set as metered connection option here. Note that this only affects the current WI-FI network youre connected to, but Windows will remember the setting for this specific network in the future.
Going in a slightly different direction:
Home users cant delay upgrades at all, but Professional editions of Windows 10 get a Defer upgrades option in the Advanced options interface. If you enable this, youll still receive security updates automatically. Windows 10 will put off downloading feature updates for several months until theyve had plenty of time to be tested on home PCs.
This is designed to make business PCs a bit more stable and allow system administrators to test new feature updates before they reach their users. If you upgrade to Windows 10 Professional, you could enable this option yourself. But, either way, youll get those feature updates it will just happen a few months later.
And for the "It always reboots when I'm doing something" crowd:
Click the Advanced options link in the Windows Update interface and youll only find two Choose how updates are installed options. You can pick Automatic, which is the default WIndows will automatically download updates, install them, and schedule a reboot for a time when you arent using your PC.
You can also choose Notify to schedule restart, which will prevent your PC from automatically rebooting without your confirmation. But, either way, those updates will be automatically downloaded and installed.
Not sure if it has been brought up. I wonder how many of those who use an Android device (Google account) have their settings set properly. If not it. Google tracks your phone / tablets physical location and every website you've ever been to and keeps a visible history of it if the settings not turned off. Going back years! Not new news but I wonder just how many do not know that and complain about privacy. VERY DETAILED that anyone who gets access to your Google account can see.
You can't stop anything there is no work around(all who claim there is work around have no clue what there saying) updates no matter what will be installed eventually, security(which i don't have problem with i understand that already when i made this topic still some think stupidly other wise)but also drivers you can't stop only delay thats all.
99% OF YOU AVERAGE JOES have no problems with this fine GO AHEAD INSTALL WINDOWS 10 no problemo, but few like me have(i love my freedom which means i deside not MS.
Again this topic was only to bring it to your attention NOT TO TRY BRAINWASH YOU MS doing great job with that already just educate you on what will happen with datemining and WU.
Thats all folks take it or leave it i don't force you to do anything or believe me do whatever you think is best ok:)
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Is OP for real ? I mean, does he really believe others waited MS before spying us ? The data MS would eventually mine already have been mined years ago by websites and such...if you already went on google or facebook, you already are screwed. And if you live in the US, you have been screwed by the NSA. Grow up, man, Microsoft won't do more harm than now.
You can't stop anything there is no work around(all who claim there is work around have no clue what there saying) updates no matter what will be installed eventually, security(which i don't have problem with i understand that already when i made this topic still some think stupidly other wise)but also drivers you can't stop only delay thats all.
99% OF YOU AVERAGE JOES have no problems with this fine GO AHEAD INSTALL WINDOWS 10 no problemo, but few like me have(i love my freedom which means i deside not MS.
Again this topic was only to bring it to your attention NOT TO TRY BRAINWASH YOU MS doing great job with that already just educate you on what will happen with datemining and WU.
Thats all folks take it or leave it i don't force you to do anything or believe me do whatever you think is best ok:)
You can't stop anything there is no work around(all who claim there is work around have no clue what there saying) updates no matter what will be installed eventually, security(which i don't have problem with i understand that already when i made this topic still some think stupidly other wise)but also drivers you can't stop only delay thats all.
99% OF YOU AVERAGE JOES have no problems with this fine GO AHEAD INSTALL WINDOWS 10 no problemo, but few like me have(i love my freedom which means i deside not MS.
Again this topic was only to bring it to your attention NOT TO TRY BRAINWASH YOU MS doing great job with that already just educate you on what will happen with datemining and WU.
Thats all folks take it or leave it i don't force you to do anything or believe me do whatever you think is best ok:)
Nonsense. Stop preaching the apocalypse when a bird farts. There is freedom in Windows 10 : we can chose to install it or not. It's like complaining that there is chocolate in a chocolate cake,I bet you would say "The baker want to take freedom out from me, he has no right to put chocolate in my chocolate cake !". You really want "freedom" ? Go on linux or stay on Windows XP/7/8/whateveryouhavenow. Nobody is forcing you to install W10. We know what awaits us in W10, so let us assume our **** "brainwashed" choices. Or go take some medication.
Originally posted by Hulluck Not sure if it has been brought up. I wonder how many of those who use an Android device (Google account) have their settings set properly. If not it. Google tracks your phone / tablets physical location and every website you've ever been to and keeps a visible history of it if the settings not turned off. Going back years! Not new news but I wonder just how many do not know that and complain about privacy. VERY DETAILED that anyone who gets access to your Google account can see.
Anyone who uses Google should expect 0 privacy.
I use Youtube sometimes, but other than that I don't use anything made by Google.
Google is privacy collection, that is what the do!
First herd immunity works well only if enough of the herd is immune.
Second if you think Microsoft has nothing better to do than "spy" on you I wonder what you're up to.
Third Good news, since it takes at minimum six people to provide 24 hour coverage on one person I think we've solved the unemployment problem. Bad news, the suicide rate due to boredom among the watchers is bound to sky rocket. Or is that good news too?
This is not the issue, the issue is that windows 10 on your device does not belong to you. It belongs to microsoft, you are being allowed access to their house, to set up home, but microsoft has the right to come into your home anytime they like, move shit around however they want, take pictures of anything you are doing, and even kick you out anytime they want for any reason they want.
As if that is not bad enough microsoft is claiming the right to bring other people into your home anytime they like without your permission. That means anytime they want advertisers, law enforcement, government can just roam all through your home digging through your crap and do not need your permission because when you agree to use windows 10 you are giving consent for them to search you anytime for any reason.
FUCK THAT
Oh this is delicious Irony.
You are posting essentially about EULA's and licensing agreements taking ownership of digital products away from the consumer... and you are doing this on an MMO site.
Some times I think people here just want an excuse to get worked up and jump on a bandwagon.
It's a conspiracy...NASA, the CIA, DOD, Homeland, the ASIS, CSIS, MI6, ISI, RAW, FSSRF, DGSE, MOSSAD, MSS, all managed to get secret deals with MS to spy on everyone and find out all your deep dark secrets and they are the ones that backed MS or put them up to windows 10 and thus it's shitty design.
You should be very very afraid, hell you should throw away all electronic devices, all money and sell your identity and then move to some cave no one knows about and live off the land for 20 years. You might be safe after all this time but.....depends have you given blood before do they have your DNA?
You forgot the most important and most powerful secret organization of all: The Pentaverate.
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Originally posted by Hulluck Not sure if it has been brought up. I wonder how many of those who use an Android device (Google account) have their settings set properly. If not it. Google tracks your phone / tablets physical location and every website you've ever been to and keeps a visible history of it if the settings not turned off. Going back years! Not new news but I wonder just how many do not know that and complain about privacy. VERY DETAILED that anyone who gets access to your Google account can see.
Anyone who uses Google should expect 0 privacy.
I use Youtube sometimes, but other than that I don't use anything made by Google.
Google is privacy collection, that is what the do!
I know this. You can say it over and over to some people. Being able to visualize how detailed said information is though is another thing. Knowing that I was still floored to see how detailed it was. My friends uses it to keep tabs on his kids, where they have been. Types of sites they visit. Fairly detailed. ANYONE who gets access to a persons Google plus account if the settings are not off can see location history and website history of that person.
Basically it's one thing to say it. Totally a different thing to see it. That was my point. Microsoft is peanuts compared to Google and information. As you said it is what they do.
Originally posted by Karahandras Last I heard that was just for home users, so I take it they've changed things?
Haven't ms been trying to get into data mining for a while now?(since it's a big thing with google, valve etc.) So not really a big suprise.
Also don't forget this is likely to include adware(with the current nagware being seen as a test) aswell as any spyware and there's nothing to stop them selling that add space on your devices to other companies.
As for those saying this is just a security thing, why is it that it's all updates that are automatic not just security updates and do you really think that the additional revenue streams that'll come with this weren't part of the consideration?
Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
Some now try to get work around but so far it fails.
29th you even get drivers you don't need or want.
If drivers cause crashes or unstable system and you try remove that driver WU just install it again.
It looks also end of BETA drivers from AMD and Nvidia this gonne cost them alot also.
But hey 99% avarage joes here don't care there after all sheeps you eat whatever they serve if it harms you or not. Windows 10 will be disaster unless M$ change WU and you can have control again on driver updates yourself. Good luck all end of windows is near.
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On the Internet, you have no privacy. Just accept it now, it is a public forum. Loving on its the same as going outside. Your credit card companies watch what you buy and sell that demographic info to marketing companies without your name on it. Good news crackpots, no one cares about you besides your wallet and how to get you to open it. Trick to beating them all is....... Don't buy what you don't want.
Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
Originally posted by Karahandras Last I heard that was just for home users, so I take it they've changed things?
Haven't ms been trying to get into data mining for a while now?(since it's a big thing with google, valve etc.) So not really a big suprise.
Also don't forget this is likely to include adware(with the current nagware being seen as a test) aswell as any spyware and there's nothing to stop them selling that add space on your devices to other companies.
As for those saying this is just a security thing, why is it that it's all updates that are automatic not just security updates and do you really think that the additional revenue streams that'll come with this weren't part of the consideration?
Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
Some now try to get work around but so far it fails.
29th you even get drivers you don't need or want.
If drivers cause crashes or unstable system and you try remove that driver WU just install it again.
It looks also end of BETA drivers from AMD and Nvidia this gonne cost them alot also.
But hey 99% avarage joes here don't care there after all sheeps you eat whatever they serve if it harms you or not. Windows 10 will be disaster unless M$ change WU and you can have control again on driver updates yourself. Good luck all end of windows is near.
Why don't you crawl back to your basement so no one spies on you and leave us sheep worry about automatic updates lol. Let me think. I have never had an issue with windows 7 and 8 since launch day. Do I trust Microsoft to deliver a solid product more than some paranoid recluse on the Internet?hmmmmmmm
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Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
I don't recall Windows 7 doing that either.
In any case, I am a believer in having better security. As a nation, we are doing a horrible job.
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Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
I don't recall Windows 7 doing that either.
In any case, I am a believer in having better security. As a nation, we are doing a horrible job.
Security is one thing but how about bloatware. That's a darn good reason to build your own computer but if your OS just adds it back you don't gain much.
According to Forbes, they claim MS will be able to install all software they approve and you can't deny it.
Unfortunately there is a flipside to this happy picture and it returns to the notion of a complete loss of control.
Windows 10’s forced automatic updates don’t simply cover security patches, they cover anything and everything Microsoft wants to put on your PC as part of Windows 10. This can range from new software and services to changes to core features and functionality.
For example: if Microsoft wants to build a new media player, RSS reader, mapping software, cookbook, boomerang or nuclear submarine into the core of Windows 10 it can and you have to install it. If an update also changes how a feature or service operates to a way you dislike (say a new user interface), then tough you have to accept that as well.
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Drivers are a big issue too but I can't find anything particularly revealing about those being included or not.
You can't really escape it going to the pro versions either, you just delay it - it's something like if you don't upgrade within x months they cut you off until you do.
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In April senior Microsoft product marketing manager Helen Harmetz said during a Windows 10 webinar for registered partners that users who did not install updates within allotted time periods “will not be able to see and consume the next security update”. Aka your security will be cut-off.
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I don't know that MS is as strong as it used to be. They may be overestimating their power in all this. This could be quite painful for them, they already guessed wrong on 8 being widely accepted and apps being the bees knees.
Have you actually used windows 10? Don't spend too much time reading shit on the Internet. Even websites like Forbes talk bullshit sometimes and they blow things out of proportions. It's very unlikely Microsoft will install additional programmes automatically. Ip the most likely scenario is that security updates are mandatory.
besides what are you going to use if you don't like Microsoft. Ubuntu? Lol. Some other Linux crap? Don't make me laugh. Mac? Yeah right cause people will spend truck load of money on Mac and will give up on gaming and a lot of programmes not being supported.
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Mac? Yeah right cause people will spend truck load of money on Mac and will give up on gaming and a lot of programmes not being supported.
'But it has that nice Apple logo on the back to parade with in front of others.'
(Expensive logo btw.)
The issue with the forced updates has been addressed at MS long ago. If this runs into problems, you can bet they have to tackle it.
About internet privacy?
It baffles me that people are complaining about MS harvesting data while Apple has done this for ages, Google has done this for ages. That the same people complaining often install smartphone apps for simple things yet agree to give permission to mine EVERYTHING on their smartphone and their online behavior without even reading it before install?
(for example, why does a simple Pacman game in the Android Store need access to my wifi (ID) , phone number, caller ID, address list, photos, multimedia, who I have called and am called by, my internet favorites, my internet browsing history?)
And this goes for like 90% of all apps there.
Plus how many of those complaining people use Twitter, Instagram and especially FACEBOOK daily to post all kinds of private information on it?
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Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
I don't recall Windows 7 doing that either.
In any case, I am a believer in having better security. As a nation, we are doing a horrible job.
Security is one thing but how about bloatware. That's a darn good reason to build your own computer but if your OS just adds it back you don't gain much.
According to Forbes, they claim MS will be able to install all software they approve and you can't deny it.
Unfortunately there is a flipside to this happy picture and it returns to the notion of a complete loss of control.
Windows 10’s forced automatic updates don’t simply cover security patches, they cover anything and everything Microsoft wants to put on your PC as part of Windows 10. This can range from new software and services to changes to core features and functionality.
For example: if Microsoft wants to build a new media player, RSS reader, mapping software, cookbook, boomerang or nuclear submarine into the core of Windows 10 it can and you have to install it. If an update also changes how a feature or service operates to a way you dislike (say a new user interface), then tough you have to accept that as well.
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Drivers are a big issue too but I can't find anything particularly revealing about those being included or not.
You can't really escape it going to the pro versions either, you just delay it - it's something like if you don't upgrade within x months they cut you off until you do.
"
In April senior Microsoft product marketing manager Helen Harmetz said during a Windows 10 webinar for registered partners that users who did not install updates within allotted time periods “will not be able to see and consume the next security update”. Aka your security will be cut-off.
"
I don't know that MS is as strong as it used to be. They may be overestimating their power in all this. This could be quite painful for them, they already guessed wrong on 8 being widely accepted and apps being the bees knees.
Have you actually used windows 10? Don't spend too much time reading shit on the Internet. Even websites like Forbes talk bullshit sometimes and they blow things out of proportions. It's very unlikely Microsoft will install additional programmes automatically. Ip the most likely scenario is that security updates are mandatory.
besides what are you going to use if you don't like Microsoft. Ubuntu? Lol. Some other Linux crap? Don't make me laugh. Mac? Yeah right cause people will spend truck load of money on Mac and will give up on gaming and a lot of programmes not being supported.
More than half the worlds PC's use Windows 7, what Microsoft has to do, which is something they failed to do pretty much with XP never mind Windows 7 and the whole Windows 8 debacle, is persuade them to start using Windows 10, and the more 'red flags' get raised about it, the less that is likely to happen, personally i think its too early yet to judge it either way, it might be a good thing, or it might not, i'll be waiting for a few months, maybe even a year before i stop using Windows 7, because regardless of whatever Microsoft would prefer, developers will always develop games etc, for the most popular OS's, which, if you were in any doubt about, just look at how many games, MMO's etc. are still based on Directx9.c, where Directx11 etc, is just supported, rather than being based on.
As for Drivers, both Nvidia and AMD will be churning out drivers for whatever OS their customers are using.
Security issues, anyone who relies on Windows Firewall etc is niaive. Microsoft has never managed to adequately secure their OS's without 3rd party assistance, and Windows 10 isn't likely to be any different in that respect to all the previous OS incarnations, which means we will still be relying on various Firewall and Antivirus companies to secure our PC's, and they in turn will be providing security for whatever OS their customers require it for, you can for instance, oddly enough still get free Firewall/AV for Windows XP, so the advent of Windows 10 is unlikely to change things in that respect.
That coincidentally, you need to use 3rd party programs to protect even the latest Internet Explorer, is probably the reason why Chrome etc, is far more popular, and secure. But as long as you can replace IE in Windows 10 with Chrome or Firefox, that shouldn't be an issue.
After Windows 8, Microsoft is not in as strong a position as it used to be, its reputation as a company, is far from satisfactory, which may be in part at least, the reason why Windows 10 is being pushed out for free, although if they haven't got some kind of monetisation plans for it to be introduced sometime in the future, i would be very much surprised, and thats also something that may disincline other Windows 7 users to be early adopters of the new OS, as they may well also be 'waiting for the other shoe to drop'.
Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
I don't recall Windows 7 doing that either.
In any case, I am a believer in having better security. As a nation, we are doing a horrible job.
Security is one thing but how about bloatware. That's a darn good reason to build your own computer but if your OS just adds it back you don't gain much.
According to Forbes, they claim MS will be able to install all software they approve and you can't deny it.
Unfortunately there is a flipside to this happy picture and it returns to the notion of a complete loss of control.
Windows 10’s forced automatic updates don’t simply cover security patches, they cover anything and everything Microsoft wants to put on your PC as part of Windows 10. This can range from new software and services to changes to core features and functionality.
For example: if Microsoft wants to build a new media player, RSS reader, mapping software, cookbook, boomerang or nuclear submarine into the core of Windows 10 it can and you have to install it. If an update also changes how a feature or service operates to a way you dislike (say a new user interface), then tough you have to accept that as well.
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Drivers are a big issue too but I can't find anything particularly revealing about those being included or not.
You can't really escape it going to the pro versions either, you just delay it - it's something like if you don't upgrade within x months they cut you off until you do.
"
In April senior Microsoft product marketing manager Helen Harmetz said during a Windows 10 webinar for registered partners that users who did not install updates within allotted time periods “will not be able to see and consume the next security update”. Aka your security will be cut-off.
"
I don't know that MS is as strong as it used to be. They may be overestimating their power in all this. This could be quite painful for them, they already guessed wrong on 8 being widely accepted and apps being the bees knees.
Have you actually used windows 10? Don't spend too much time reading shit on the Internet. Even websites like Forbes talk bullshit sometimes and they blow things out of proportions. It's very unlikely Microsoft will install additional programmes automatically. Ip the most likely scenario is that security updates are mandatory.
besides what are you going to use if you don't like Microsoft. Ubuntu? Lol. Some other Linux crap? Don't make me laugh. Mac? Yeah right cause people will spend truck load of money on Mac and will give up on gaming and a lot of programmes not being supported.
More than half the worlds PC's use Windows 7, what Microsoft has to do, which is something they failed to do pretty much with XP never mind Windows 7 and the whole Windows 8 debacle, is persuade them to start using Windows 10, and the more 'red flags' get raised about it, the less that is likely to happen, personally i think its too early yet to judge it either way, it might be a good thing, or it might not, i'll be waiting for a few months, maybe even a year before i stop using Windows 7, because regardless of whatever Microsoft would prefer, developers will always develop games etc, for the most popular OS's, which, if you were in any doubt about, just look at how many games, MMO's etc. are still based on Directx9.c, where Directx11 etc, is just supported, rather than being based on.
As for Drivers, both Nvidia and AMD will be churning out drivers for whatever OS their customers are using.
Security issues, anyone who relies on Windows Firewall etc is niaive. Microsoft has never managed to adequately secure their OS's without 3rd party assistance, and Windows 10 isn't likely to be any different in that respect to all the previous OS incarnations, which means we will still be relying on various Firewall and Antivirus companies to secure our PC's, and they in turn will be providing security for whatever OS their customers require it for, you can for instance, oddly enough still get free Firewall/AV for Windows XP, so the advent of Windows 10 is unlikely to change things in that respect.
That coincidentally, you need to use 3rd party programs to protect even the latest Internet Explorer, is probably the reason why Chrome etc, is far more popular, and secure. But as long as you can replace IE in Windows 10 with Chrome or Firefox, that shouldn't be an issue.
After Windows 8, Microsoft is not in as strong a position as it used to be, its reputation as a company, is far from satisfactory, which may be in part at least, the reason why Windows 10 is being pushed out for free, although if they haven't got some kind of monetisation plans for it to be introduced sometime in the future, i would be very much surprised, and thats also something that may disincline other Windows 7 users to be early adopters of the new OS, as they may well also be 'waiting for the other shoe to drop'.
There is no doubt that windows 7 and 8 are going to be supported for a very long time. They only just pulled the plug on XP and that's ancient.
i think the reason they are giving it for free is to encourage people to upgrade. Remember it is only free for 1 year from release, it's not free for new users or people who don't upgrade in the 1 year windows and it's not free to business users.
they are trying to combat the fact that people are averse to change. I personally have used vista, 7 and 8 as my main OS and I was never reluctant to change to the latest one. Also people who refuse to upgrade blow things out of proportion. I have used vista shortly after launch, 7 and 8 from release and I honestly can't remember having any issues. 7 and 8 both had flawless execution from launch day for me.
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I have no idea if this is a legit idea or not,i have yet to d/l the update.Paranoia...ridiculous are not proper terms to use because any intelligent person SHOULD question anything they see as being FREE.
I think it would take a full year before we know the answer to this so called free software.
Microsoft is in the business of making money,so there is 100% a catch behind this FREE moniker,weather that is fair good or bad we won't know just yet.
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In case you don't want to read the whole article, Windows Update tries to update Nvidia drivers and Nvidia software also tries to update Nvidia drivers. They disagree on which driver version is newer and constantly fight over which driver should be installed, making the whole thing not work.
Now, Windows 10 is still in beta. But it's also two days away from launch.
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The more i see thread like this the more i am starting to think that they are just lazy at research and wish for people to give them links to answers.
Seriously soon the will tell us MS use private ports in there OS to spy on us, etc. And that we need to block them to make sure we are safe. This is not the cold war, not everyone wants to know what porn site you visit or what dating site you go at.
Yes they will push update regardless but the only thing windows update looks at, is what updates you already have and what can be offered to you as a customer of there operating system. That is what it scans for, and only that.
If you don't want them to track stuff etc. you are requested to disable that at install and can even do it later after install : Website tracking, error reporting service, etc. Just disable them in the control panel and voila. By the way every OS on the market even linux does that. Welcome to 2015!
Here all you tinfoil-hatters,
First workaround to automatic updates already discovered:
Going in a slightly different direction:
And for the "It always reboots when I'm doing something" crowd:
You can't stop anything there is no work around(all who claim there is work around have no clue what there saying) updates no matter what will be installed eventually, security(which i don't have problem with i understand that already when i made this topic still some think stupidly other wise)but also drivers you can't stop only delay thats all.
99% OF YOU AVERAGE JOES have no problems with this fine GO AHEAD INSTALL WINDOWS 10 no problemo, but few like me have(i love my freedom which means i deside not MS.
Again this topic was only to bring it to your attention NOT TO TRY BRAINWASH YOU MS doing great job with that already just educate you on what will happen with datemining and WU.
Thats all folks take it or leave it i don't force you to do anything or believe me do whatever you think is best ok:)
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Is OP for real ? I mean, does he really believe others waited MS before spying us ? The data MS would eventually mine already have been mined years ago by websites and such...if you already went on google or facebook, you already are screwed. And if you live in the US, you have been screwed by the NSA. Grow up, man, Microsoft won't do more harm than now.
Are you a Paranoid Schizophrenic?
Nonsense. Stop preaching the apocalypse when a bird farts. There is freedom in Windows 10 : we can chose to install it or not. It's like complaining that there is chocolate in a chocolate cake,I bet you would say "The baker want to take freedom out from me, he has no right to put chocolate in my chocolate cake !". You really want "freedom" ? Go on linux or stay on Windows XP/7/8/whateveryouhavenow. Nobody is forcing you to install W10. We know what awaits us in W10, so let us assume our **** "brainwashed" choices. Or go take some medication.
This MS spying crap is just stupid. I get sick of these type of post that have been happening for years about MS whenever they release a new OS.
Anyone who uses Google should expect 0 privacy.
I use Youtube sometimes, but other than that I don't use anything made by Google.
Google is privacy collection, that is what the do!
Oh this is delicious Irony.
You are posting essentially about EULA's and licensing agreements taking ownership of digital products away from the consumer... and you are doing this on an MMO site.
Some times I think people here just want an excuse to get worked up and jump on a bandwagon.
This made my day. Thank you for the link and reminder of the movie.
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I know this. You can say it over and over to some people. Being able to visualize how detailed said information is though is another thing. Knowing that I was still floored to see how detailed it was. My friends uses it to keep tabs on his kids, where they have been. Types of sites they visit. Fairly detailed. ANYONE who gets access to a persons Google plus account if the settings are not off can see location history and website history of that person.
Basically it's one thing to say it. Totally a different thing to see it. That was my point. Microsoft is peanuts compared to Google and information. As you said it is what they do.
This guy shows exactly what I am talking about. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7e_1426272151
Up to pro it's all forced even driver updates for your gpu or other devices you don't have any say in this.
Some now try to get work around but so far it fails.
29th you even get drivers you don't need or want.
If drivers cause crashes or unstable system and you try remove that driver WU just install it again.
It looks also end of BETA drivers from AMD and Nvidia this gonne cost them alot also.
But hey 99% avarage joes here don't care there after all sheeps you eat whatever they serve if it harms you or not.
Windows 10 will be disaster unless M$ change WU and you can have control again on driver updates yourself.
Good luck all end of windows is near.
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MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
I would find that extremely shocking, not least because it would be incredibly stupid and for no good reason. I don't think I've ever seen Windows 7 even offer driver updates through Windows Update. It certainly doesn't offer video driver updates for me.
Why don't you crawl back to your basement so no one spies on you and leave us sheep worry about automatic updates lol. Let me think. I have never had an issue with windows 7 and 8 since launch day. Do I trust Microsoft to deliver a solid product more than some paranoid recluse on the Internet?hmmmmmmm
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I don't recall Windows 7 doing that either.
In any case, I am a believer in having better security. As a nation, we are doing a horrible job.
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Have you actually used windows 10? Don't spend too much time reading shit on the Internet. Even websites like Forbes talk bullshit sometimes and they blow things out of proportions. It's very unlikely Microsoft will install additional programmes automatically. Ip the most likely scenario is that security updates are mandatory.
besides what are you going to use if you don't like Microsoft. Ubuntu? Lol. Some other Linux crap? Don't make me laugh. Mac? Yeah right cause people will spend truck load of money on Mac and will give up on gaming and a lot of programmes not being supported.
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'But it has that nice Apple logo on the back to parade with in front of others.'
(Expensive logo btw.)
The issue with the forced updates has been addressed at MS long ago. If this runs into problems, you can bet they have to tackle it.
About internet privacy?
It baffles me that people are complaining about MS harvesting data while Apple has done this for ages, Google has done this for ages. That the same people complaining often install smartphone apps for simple things yet agree to give permission to mine EVERYTHING on their smartphone and their online behavior without even reading it before install?
(for example, why does a simple Pacman game in the Android Store need access to my wifi (ID) , phone number, caller ID, address list, photos, multimedia, who I have called and am called by, my internet favorites, my internet browsing history?)
And this goes for like 90% of all apps there.
Plus how many of those complaining people use Twitter, Instagram and especially FACEBOOK daily to post all kinds of private information on it?
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More than half the worlds PC's use Windows 7, what Microsoft has to do, which is something they failed to do pretty much with XP never mind Windows 7 and the whole Windows 8 debacle, is persuade them to start using Windows 10, and the more 'red flags' get raised about it, the less that is likely to happen, personally i think its too early yet to judge it either way, it might be a good thing, or it might not, i'll be waiting for a few months, maybe even a year before i stop using Windows 7, because regardless of whatever Microsoft would prefer, developers will always develop games etc, for the most popular OS's, which, if you were in any doubt about, just look at how many games, MMO's etc. are still based on Directx9.c, where Directx11 etc, is just supported, rather than being based on.
As for Drivers, both Nvidia and AMD will be churning out drivers for whatever OS their customers are using.
Security issues, anyone who relies on Windows Firewall etc is niaive. Microsoft has never managed to adequately secure their OS's without 3rd party assistance, and Windows 10 isn't likely to be any different in that respect to all the previous OS incarnations, which means we will still be relying on various Firewall and Antivirus companies to secure our PC's, and they in turn will be providing security for whatever OS their customers require it for, you can for instance, oddly enough still get free Firewall/AV for Windows XP, so the advent of Windows 10 is unlikely to change things in that respect.
That coincidentally, you need to use 3rd party programs to protect even the latest Internet Explorer, is probably the reason why Chrome etc, is far more popular, and secure. But as long as you can replace IE in Windows 10 with Chrome or Firefox, that shouldn't be an issue.
After Windows 8, Microsoft is not in as strong a position as it used to be, its reputation as a company, is far from satisfactory, which may be in part at least, the reason why Windows 10 is being pushed out for free, although if they haven't got some kind of monetisation plans for it to be introduced sometime in the future, i would be very much surprised, and thats also something that may disincline other Windows 7 users to be early adopters of the new OS, as they may well also be 'waiting for the other shoe to drop'.
There is no doubt that windows 7 and 8 are going to be supported for a very long time. They only just pulled the plug on XP and that's ancient.
i think the reason they are giving it for free is to encourage people to upgrade. Remember it is only free for 1 year from release, it's not free for new users or people who don't upgrade in the 1 year windows and it's not free to business users.
they are trying to combat the fact that people are averse to change. I personally have used vista, 7 and 8 as my main OS and I was never reluctant to change to the latest one. Also people who refuse to upgrade blow things out of proportion. I have used vista shortly after launch, 7 and 8 from release and I honestly can't remember having any issues. 7 and 8 both had flawless execution from launch day for me.
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I have no idea if this is a legit idea or not,i have yet to d/l the update.Paranoia...ridiculous are not proper terms to use because any intelligent person SHOULD question anything they see as being FREE.
I think it would take a full year before we know the answer to this so called free software.
Microsoft is in the business of making money,so there is 100% a catch behind this FREE moniker,weather that is fair good or bad we won't know just yet.
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Would Microsoft really be so stupid as to force driver updates on people for reasons having nothing to do with security? One blogger says yes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/25/windows-10-automatic-update-problems/
In case you don't want to read the whole article, Windows Update tries to update Nvidia drivers and Nvidia software also tries to update Nvidia drivers. They disagree on which driver version is newer and constantly fight over which driver should be installed, making the whole thing not work.
Now, Windows 10 is still in beta. But it's also two days away from launch.