Update:The Escapist, notwithstanding Cloud Imperium Games' notice and posting, stands by its coverage of Star Citizen and intends to continue to investigate the developing story. Since publishing our original stories, we have been contacted by, and are currently interviewing, additional sources corroborating a variety of the reported allegations. Additionally, if Mr. Roberts' offer for The Escapist to "meet the developers making the game and see how we're building one of the most ambitious PC games first hand" remains open, we take the opportunity to accept such invitation so as to hopefully provide the public with sufficient information and opportunity to vet such sources' allegations and claims for themselves. We have also communicated the foregoing directly to Cloud Imperium Games.
Yep it is all going to hit the fan soon. Normally when the first group of people come forward others end up following when they know their identity's will be protected. Also you might even get the 1 or 2 who don't care and will come forward with their names. This is far from over and will more than likely get a lot worse for CR and his wife.
Maybe it is time to start checking offshore bank accounts.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
All the drama queens on here who are hoping for something to keep them entertained may be disappointed.
From what I can tell, this drama has only benefited both the Escapist and CIG. Escapist made a ton of money on clicks and CIG made a ton of money on donations (1 million in a week) and added a bunch more new backers. Why should either company care about negative publicity? Apparently it doesn't matter - they both make money regardless. More than normal, in fact.
Unless the money does run out (which is ridiculously unlikely considering that CIG could always get private investor funds or a line of credit), then the game will get made regardless of "image". This is the part I don't get by the crusaders against CIG. Unless you truly believe that it's a Bernie Madoff type scam, then nothing you say or do is going to adversely affect this game's development.
And if you do believe it's a scam, then I'm willing to bet that you also think you were abducted by aliens and anally probed.
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
All the drama queens on here who are hoping for something to keep them entertained may be disappointed.
From what I can tell, this drama has only benefited both the Escapist and CIG. Escapist made a ton of money on clicks and CIG made a ton of money on donations (1 million in a week) and added a bunch more new backers. Why should either company care about negative publicity? Apparently it doesn't matter - they both make money regardless. More than normal, in fact.
Unless the money does run out (which is ridiculously unlikely considering that CIG could always get private investor funds or a line of credit), then the game will get made regardless of "image". This is the part I don't get by the crusaders against CIG. Unless you truly believe that it's a Bernie Madoff type scam, then nothing you say or do is going to adversely affect this game's development.
And if you do believe it's a scam, then I'm willing to bet that you also think you were abducted by aliens and anally probed.
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
I've said this before: don't try reasoning with the unreasonable.
Yeah, BS. No identified sources this is just baseless accusations at this point. Until a credible witness, ie an actual named employee (or former employee) comes forward this is all BS. Also, I am not sure where the production is taking place, but just on the first page alone there is enough allegation to support a legal suit in either the U.S. or the U.K. So again I say BS to the entire article.
Now, if some legal action is announced agains CIG, or Roberts then I will eat crow but until then I am not buying it at all.
And before you say it, no I am not a fanboi, I am not even a supporter of the game, and yes I am a Derek Smart hater, but this is not related to that idiot, and until I see something from an official source, this is all just bunk. imo.
Read the article, the Escapist Magazine confirmed their sources and confirmed that they were indeed former employees, though they have chosen not to disclose their names for obvious reasons.
The way you do a journalist piece is by confirming evidence on both sides, in the escapist they only listen to anonymous sources(what role did they play in the company?), they should have confirmed and checked everything with SC before running the piece. It was also done as a click bait that already raises some eyebrows, listening to just former employees who contacted after a defamatory piece for me shows they have a clear bias, fake ID cards and then probably all accusations you can raise from serious misused of funding for personal use by CR and Sandi, Race discrimination, not making a game,
There is also stuff that if you understand the game dev process makes sense, they have X studio that is doing the A.I., X studio that is doing the Website, X Studio that is making the singleplayer campaign and X studio that is making deep engine. There will people that will be stuck making commercials, other website stuff.. they aren't a company that has one location and is doing everything there. There has also been features that were added to the engine that must have stop development on some fronts.
But I'm sure there will be way a ton more people fired has development winds down in 2016 Q1 has Star Marine aims to be release this year and SQ 42 Next Year around Q1.
Any company with over 100 employees and an ambition project, limit time frame and pressure from the backers will misused some funds, contract people who might look good on paper and person but then can't work at the required level or fit in the environment.
This is a crowd-funded AAA game, they need very ambitions, passionated, independent, thick skin and very comfortable on the area they work on.
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While it would probably be for the best if Chris Roberts ignores further drama, this bullying tactic by the Escapist should not go unpunished. This piss poor behavior on the part of people who should know better needs to be corrected, because it seems these individuals have never hand their nose slapped with a rolled up newspaper and do not know right from wrong.
Self centered, blustery assholishness is the norm for way too many people. They feel entitled to what others build, and entitled to knock over other people's sandcastles if it suits them. A whole generation has been taught nothing more than "me want, met get", and this needs to be fixed.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
Except if what is alleged in the article turns out to be true, it could very well be a crime or crimes.
You really have no idea how much companies can get away, do you?
The "victims" would need to have hard evidence of discrimination. Even then, it would not shut down the company, only result in a fine and open CIG to a possible lawsuit. Said lawsuit would be covered by their insurance umbrella. It would not damage the company in the slightest. The backers would continue to say that it's attacks on CIG and support with even more money, thus accomplishing the opposite of what detractors hope to accomplish.
And trust me, if I were a victim of discrimination (my wet dream) at a company, I would immediately report to the labor board and file suit and try to get rich. Pretty telling that none of the "victims" have done so, isn't it? Instead, these people shop it to a newspaper? You really believe that these "victims" would trade the opportunity (even the slightest) to get compensated financially to defend the "public good" by outing Star Citizen as a "scam"? What a fantasy. Humans are selfish beings. X10 selfish beings when it comes to money. And I promise you that these "victims" don't give a flying shit about the public, the backers or anyone besides themselves. If they had any evidence they would have used it to benefit themselves by suing. They didn't, so they don't.
If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
Well either CR is an egomaniac or he isn't. I'm guessing that he is at least some and what he wants is to be known as the visionary who created a great game. So even if most people would take the money and run I doubt that he would because he'd be forever known as that blowhard who couldn't do it.
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Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
All the drama queens on here who are hoping for something to keep them entertained may be disappointed.
From what I can tell, this drama has only benefited both the Escapist and CIG. Escapist made a ton of money on clicks and CIG made a ton of money on donations (1 million in a week) and added a bunch more new backers. Why should either company care about negative publicity? Apparently it doesn't matter - they both make money regardless. More than normal, in fact.
Unless the money does run out (which is ridiculously unlikely considering that CIG could always get private investor funds or a line of credit), then the game will get made regardless of "image". This is the part I don't get by the crusaders against CIG. Unless you truly believe that it's a Bernie Madoff type scam, then nothing you say or do is going to adversely affect this game's development.
And if you do believe it's a scam, then I'm willing to bet that you also think you were abducted by aliens and anally probed.
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
Are you asking me personally or is the question entirely rhetorical? Because if you're asking me, I'd rather create a landmark game and be remembered for that then scam people out of cash through some crowdfunding scheme. And until I see some concrete evidence to the contrary, I'm willing to give Chris Roberts the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not embezzling people's money and actually does want to create a great game that will bring both fame and fortune. I think that assumption is more reasonable than assuming he's a criminal.
Yeah, they're going to hire 250; some big names that have worked in the industry for over 10 years; all for an elaborate scam. I know. I'm facepalming too.
2. He is very rich already from the games and movies he made before Star Citizen.
3. He has a previous record of taking way longer than expected to deliver his last project (freelancer).
Those people trying to justify the "scam scenario" by saying that Chris Roberts would take the money and run are also ignoring the fact that the entire reason Star Citizen has achieved it's success is because people know and trust Chris Roberts enough to do exactly not that.
I didn't even know people were considering embezzlement. I thought he was mostly being accused of managing the money so poorly that the game will either not see the light of day or it will be so severely reduced that it will disappoint all the backers and fans.
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
Highlight is mine.
That is really what the whole fuzz is about you know. CR kept on changeing scope, question now is: Did he end up raising the scope beyond what CIG has funds for? If so, failure is a real possibility. The only way to know if he did is if they let us know how much of the funds have been burned until now.
That aside, unless SC keeps milking players for more cash in this supposedly b2p game, no, they wont make that much more. The target audience for SC is not unlimited, as manual flight sim like games are still pretty niche.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
Except if what is alleged in the article turns out to be true, it could very well be a crime or crimes.
You really have no idea how much companies can get away, do you?
The "victims" would need to have hard evidence of discrimination. Even then, it would not shut down the company, only result in a fine and open CIG to a possible lawsuit. Said lawsuit would be covered by their insurance umbrella. It would not damage the company in the slightest. The backers would continue to say that it's attacks on CIG and support with even more money, thus accomplishing the opposite of what detractors hope to accomplish.
And trust me, if I were a victim of discrimination (my wet dream) at a company, I would immediately report to the labor board and file suit and try to get rich. Pretty telling that none of the "victims" have done so, isn't it? Instead, these people shop it to a newspaper? You really believe that these "victims" would trade the opportunity (even the slightest) to get compensated financially to defend the "public good" by outing Star Citizen as a "scam"? What a fantasy. Humans are selfish beings. X10 selfish beings when it comes to money. And I promise you that these "victims" don't give a flying shit about the public, the backers or anyone besides themselves. If they had any evidence they would have used it to benefit themselves by suing. They didn't, so they don't.
Just because that's what YOU would do, doesn't mean that's what EVERYONE would do. You act like hidden sources for an investigative article is a new thing. There is a bunch of examples that prove what you say wrong. But believe what you want. Oh and Watergate. The easiest, most well known example that blows everything you just said above out of the ...well, water.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
Except if what is alleged in the article turns out to be true, it could very well be a crime or crimes.
You really have no idea how much companies can get away, do you?
The "victims" would need to have hard evidence of discrimination. Even then, it would not shut down the company, only result in a fine and open CIG to a possible lawsuit. Said lawsuit would be covered by their insurance umbrella. It would not damage the company in the slightest. The backers would continue to say that it's attacks on CIG and support with even more money, thus accomplishing the opposite of what detractors hope to accomplish.
And trust me, if I were a victim of discrimination (my wet dream) at a company, I would immediately report to the labor board and file suit and try to get rich. Pretty telling that none of the "victims" have done so, isn't it? Instead, these people shop it to a newspaper? You really believe that these "victims" would trade the opportunity (even the slightest) to get compensated financially to defend the "public good" by outing Star Citizen as a "scam"? What a fantasy. Humans are selfish beings. X10 selfish beings when it comes to money. And I promise you that these "victims" don't give a flying shit about the public, the backers or anyone besides themselves. If they had any evidence they would have used it to benefit themselves by suing. They didn't, so they don't.
Just because that's what YOU would do, doesn't mean that's what EVERYONE would do. You act like hidden sources for an investigative article is a new thing. There is a bunch of examples that prove what you say wrong. But believe what you want. Oh and Watergate. The easiest, most well known example that blows everything you just said above out of the ...well, water.
ROFL. Oh yes, some guys who have evidence of criminal wrong-doing would rather be crusaders for the public good than file suit and get a cash-payout like every other person on earth. What "luck" that we have these 7 "anonymous victims" who decided to report their situation to the equivalent of a tabloid rather than seek financial compensation.
And comparing watergate to something that happens millions of times every year at thousands of companies in the USA? Lmao. Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
If he really wanted to run away with 100 million dollars, he would be sitting now on a far away island with money transferred to a distant tax paradise, where he can't be touched.
But guess what. He did not. He hired nearly 300 people (and still hiring more), opened several offices in US and Europe and is spending the money on developing the game. Who would have known. /sigh
Bottom line is. He is already financially independent and has been for some years. He doesn't need to run with backers money.
Or they won't file suit and nothing serious will happen, which I think is more likely.
Nothing will happen to the Escapist. Nothing will happen to CIG.
All the drama queens on here who are hoping for something to keep them entertained may be disappointed.
From what I can tell, this drama has only benefited both the Escapist and CIG. Escapist made a ton of money on clicks and CIG made a ton of money on donations (1 million in a week) and added a bunch more new backers. Why should either company care about negative publicity? Apparently it doesn't matter - they both make money regardless. More than normal, in fact.
Unless the money does run out (which is ridiculously unlikely considering that CIG could always get private investor funds or a line of credit), then the game will get made regardless of "image". This is the part I don't get by the crusaders against CIG. Unless you truly believe that it's a Bernie Madoff type scam, then nothing you say or do is going to adversely affect this game's development.
And if you do believe it's a scam, then I'm willing to bet that you also think you were abducted by aliens and anally probed.
I really makes no sense at all for this to be a scam. CIG stands to make mountains of money if Star Citizen is successful, more annually than what they've thus far collected in crowdfunding.
If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
Are you asking me personally or is the question entirely rhetorical? Because if you're asking me, I'd rather create a landmark game and be remembered for that then scam people out of cash through some crowdfunding scheme. And until I see some concrete evidence to the contrary, I'm willing to give Chris Roberts the benefit of the doubt and assume he's not embezzling people's money and actually does want to create a great game that will bring both fame and fortune. I think that assumption is more reasonable than assuming he's a criminal.
Yeah, they're going to hire 250; some big names that have worked in the industry for over 10 years; all for an elaborate scam. I know. I'm facepalming too.
CR has already said he had the money to finish the game well before the 100mil. We still have no game, but we do know there is 100mil floating around somewhere. When looked at closely things just don't add up.
I'm not face palming because the reactions of the fanatics doesn't phase me.
ROFL. Oh yes, some guys who have evidence of criminal wrong-doing would rather be crusaders for the public good than file suit and get a cash-payout like every other person on earth. What "luck" that we have these 7 "anonymous victims" who decided to report their situation to the equivalent of a tabloid rather than seek financial compensation.
And comparing watergate to something that happens millions of times every year at thousands of companies in the USA? Lmao. Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
There are people like this they may be mistaken or not but it does happen. One currently is giving the US fits. Snowden whether one thinks he's a hero or naïve kid full of ____(<---my opinion) . As far as I know he never took a cash payout.
Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
I understand you're attacking to make things personal because you're upset. It's okay. Some of us are able to see reality and understand that 90 million dollars tends to turn the heads of some pretty important people. Sure the story could be bunk in some grand conspiracy to take Star Citizen down. Why not.
What I find hilarious is your refusal to accept the opposite could be true. You fail to realize that people whom wish to stay anonymous might do so because they work in the industry. Maybe they don't want to make a bad name for themselves as being a 'trouble maker.' Because maybe they might want to get hired by another company some time in the future.
As for the whole White Knight thing? Well yeah. Duh. Of course when people spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, they need the game to succeed. They have a heavy financial and probably emotional investment in it. That's the whole point and as mentioned in the article, the motivation for some of the sources to come out and speak to the Escapist. They feel guilty about what Chris Roberts is (allegedly) doing.
Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
I understand you're attacking to make things personal because you're upset. It's okay. Some of us are able to see reality and understand that 90 million dollars tends to turn the heads of some pretty important people. Sure the story could be bunk in some grand conspiracy to take Star Citizen down. Why not.
What I find hilarious is your refusal to accept the opposite could be true. You fail to realize that people whom wish to stay anonymous might do so because they work in the industry. Maybe they don't want to make a bad name for themselves as being a 'trouble maker.' Because maybe they might want to get hired by another company some time in the future.
As for the whole White Knight thing? Well yeah. Duh. Of course when people spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, they need the game to succeed. They have a heavy financial and probably emotional investment in it. That's the whole point and as mentioned in the article, the motivation for some of the sources to come out and speak to the Escapist. They feel guilty about what Chris Roberts is (allegedly) doing.
So on the other side, do you think the Escapist is being 100% honest about everything? The id card trouble? The fact that 7(?) separate sources just happened to contact the author within a 2 day period?
"You need to actually read CR's response to fully grasp this. If, and I believe when, The Escapist takes up the offer to visit and get a first-hand look at Star Citizen's development; talk with the staff there; and have a real impression of what's going on we're going to see an entirely different article."
HAHAHA!
Yes, because the employees will welcome The Escapist journalists on their tour and while greeted by them and CR, come out and say: "Hey, you know what, your article was spot on! Chris is a big dbag and this whole thing is a sinking ship!"
Do you really think they will get the truth from current employees and while having the whole entourage of CIG by their side on their headquarters?
I am nor for or against Chris Roberts and CIG. I want a game like this to exist... but at the same time, the bits and pieces of information are stacking against CR and CIG and we are not seeing any game yet nor release dates...
So on the other side, do you think the Escapist is being 100% honest about everything? The id card trouble? The fact that 7(?) separate sources just happened to contact the author within a 2 day period?
Because the rest of the gaming media have been cowards about this neither debunking or nor confirming, it is a binary choice set and speculation.
Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
I understand you're attacking to make things personal because you're upset. It's okay. Some of us are able to see reality and understand that 90 million dollars tends to turn the heads of some pretty important people. Sure the story could be bunk in some grand conspiracy to take Star Citizen down. Why not.
What I find hilarious is your refusal to accept the opposite could be true. You fail to realize that people whom wish to stay anonymous might do so because they work in the industry. Maybe they don't want to make a bad name for themselves as being a 'trouble maker.' Because maybe they might want to get hired by another company some time in the future.
As for the whole White Knight thing? Well yeah. Duh. Of course when people spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, they need the game to succeed. They have a heavy financial and probably emotional investment in it. That's the whole point and as mentioned in the article, the motivation for some of the sources to come out and speak to the Escapist. They feel guilty about what Chris Roberts is (allegedly) doing.
Rofl. Attacking people? I suppose attacking equals pointing out the irrational, illogical conjectures made by conspiracy theorists on these forums? Please excuse for destroying your arguments so easily. Sorry that it hurts you enough to consider it an "attack" on your character.
What it all comes down to is that a damaged entity needs evidence for anything substantial to happen legally. This isn't North Korea, it's the West. Evidence is required. There is no evidence of wrong-doing. None. Nada.
If there's evidence, then show it.
You can spout your conspiracy theories all you want and rant on the forum for years. Won't change anything. It's just forum PVP at this point.
I must say some of the conspiracy theories that have been said in this thread are on Alex Jones's level, ridiculous. lol
Some people have raised some valid points but the Star citizen fanatic don't like them because they are reasonable and might cause doubt which some of them obviously do not have and don't want to have doubt.
So on the other side, do you think the Escapist is being 100% honest about everything? The id card trouble? The fact that 7(?) separate sources just happened to contact the author within a 2 day period?
Because the rest of the gaming media have been cowards about this neither debunking or nor confirming, it is a binary choice set and speculation.
Because there's no evidence either way. Why should the regular media stake their reputation on something with no evidence? It's a huge gamble to do so. Of course they're gonna stay out of it.
So on the other side, do you think the Escapist is being 100% honest about everything? The id card trouble? The fact that 7(?) separate sources just happened to contact the author within a 2 day period?
Because the rest of the gaming media have been cowards about this neither debunking or nor confirming, it is a binary choice set and speculation.
Because there's no evidence either way. Why should the regular media stake their reputation on something with no evidence? It's a huge gamble to do so. Of course they're gonna stay out of it.
Because their reputation is already involved. If they can do nothing but fluff pieces, or hit pieces what use are they?
EDIT there is a reason most need digital breasts plastered everywhere to generate traffic.
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If you had the choice of 100mil now, or the potential to make more and not end up with that 100mil if things don't go your way, what would would you choose?
Most people would hold their hand out asking where is this 100mil.
It was also done as a click bait that already raises some eyebrows, listening to just former employees who contacted after a defamatory piece for me shows they have a clear bias, fake ID cards and then probably all accusations you can raise from serious misused of funding for personal use by CR and Sandi, Race discrimination, not making a game,
There is also stuff that if you understand the game dev process makes sense, they have X studio that is doing the A.I., X studio that is doing the Website, X Studio that is making the singleplayer campaign and X studio that is making deep engine. There will people that will be stuck making commercials, other website stuff.. they aren't a company that has one location and is doing everything there.
There has also been features that were added to the engine that must have stop development on some fronts.
But I'm sure there will be way a ton more people fired has development winds down in 2016 Q1 has Star Marine aims to be release this year and SQ 42 Next Year around Q1.
Any company with over 100 employees and an ambition project, limit time frame and pressure from the backers will misused some funds, contract people who might look good on paper and person but then can't work at the required level or fit in the environment.
This is a crowd-funded AAA game, they need very ambitions, passionated, independent, thick skin and very comfortable on the area they work on.
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Self centered, blustery assholishness is the norm for way too many people. They feel entitled to what others build, and entitled to knock over other people's sandcastles if it suits them. A whole generation has been taught nothing more than "me want, met get", and this needs to be fixed.
The "victims" would need to have hard evidence of discrimination. Even then, it would not shut down the company, only result in a fine and open CIG to a possible lawsuit. Said lawsuit would be covered by their insurance umbrella. It would not damage the company in the slightest. The backers would continue to say that it's attacks on CIG and support with even more money, thus accomplishing the opposite of what detractors hope to accomplish.
And trust me, if I were a victim of discrimination (my wet dream) at a company, I would immediately report to the labor board and file suit and try to get rich. Pretty telling that none of the "victims" have done so, isn't it? Instead, these people shop it to a newspaper? You really believe that these "victims" would trade the opportunity (even the slightest) to get compensated financially to defend the "public good" by outing Star Citizen as a "scam"? What a fantasy. Humans are selfish beings. X10 selfish beings when it comes to money. And I promise you that these "victims" don't give a flying shit about the public, the backers or anyone besides themselves. If they had any evidence they would have used it to benefit themselves by suing. They didn't, so they don't.
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1. He has produced famous and successful games.
2. He is very rich already from the games and movies he made before Star Citizen.
3. He has a previous record of taking way longer than expected to deliver his last project (freelancer).
Those people trying to justify the "scam scenario" by saying that Chris Roberts would take the money and run are also ignoring the fact that the entire reason Star Citizen has achieved it's success is because people know and trust Chris Roberts enough to do exactly not that.
That is really what the whole fuzz is about you know. CR kept on changeing scope, question now is: Did he end up raising the scope beyond what CIG has funds for? If so, failure is a real possibility. The only way to know if he did is if they let us know how much of the funds have been burned until now.
That aside, unless SC keeps milking players for more cash in this supposedly b2p game, no, they wont make that much more. The target audience for SC is not unlimited, as manual flight sim like games are still pretty niche.
And comparing watergate to something that happens millions of times every year at thousands of companies in the USA? Lmao. Anyone with a job knows how the world really works. All this conjecture about "secret CIG white-knights" who are going to reveal the "scam" and the "wrong-doing" for the public good are living on fantasy island wonderland (aka parents basement).
If he really wanted to run away with 100 million dollars, he would be sitting now on a far away island with money transferred to a distant tax paradise, where he can't be touched.
But guess what. He did not. He hired nearly 300 people (and still hiring more), opened several offices in US and Europe and is spending the money on developing the game. Who would have known. /sigh
Bottom line is. He is already financially independent and has been for some years.
He doesn't need to run with backers money.
I'm not face palming because the reactions of the fanatics doesn't phase me.
What I find hilarious is your refusal to accept the opposite could be true. You fail to realize that people whom wish to stay anonymous might do so because they work in the industry. Maybe they don't want to make a bad name for themselves as being a 'trouble maker.' Because maybe they might want to get hired by another company some time in the future.
As for the whole White Knight thing? Well yeah. Duh. Of course when people spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars, they need the game to succeed. They have a heavy financial and probably emotional investment in it. That's the whole point and as mentioned in the article, the motivation for some of the sources to come out and speak to the Escapist. They feel guilty about what Chris Roberts is (allegedly) doing.
So on the other side, do you think the Escapist is being 100% honest about everything? The id card trouble? The fact that 7(?) separate sources just happened to contact the author within a 2 day period?
http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415
Rofl. Attacking people? I suppose attacking equals pointing out the irrational, illogical conjectures made by conspiracy theorists on these forums? Please excuse for destroying your arguments so easily. Sorry that it hurts you enough to consider it an "attack" on your character.
What it all comes down to is that a damaged entity needs evidence for anything substantial to happen legally. This isn't North Korea, it's the West. Evidence is required. There is no evidence of wrong-doing. None. Nada.
If there's evidence, then show it.
You can spout your conspiracy theories all you want and rant on the forum for years. Won't change anything. It's just forum PVP at this point.
Some people have raised some valid points but the Star citizen fanatic don't like them because they are reasonable and might cause doubt which some of them obviously do not have and don't want to have doubt.
Because their reputation is already involved. If they can do nothing but fluff pieces, or hit pieces what use are they?
EDIT there is a reason most need digital breasts plastered everywhere to generate traffic.