Seriously, I was just scrolling down the list of highly rated and released MMO's and none of them sounded appealing. Like literally every single one of them was just giving me a sour feeling and making my head spin.
One of the top rated "MMO's" on this site right now is SMITE. SMITE is a moba!! Its not even an MMO!
ESO is repetitive, FF14 is nothing but grind, Secret World is all mystery no substance, Guild Wars 2 is just Meh.
Literally nothing, you know what I want?
COH
SWG
Everquest 1999
Anything that just lets me make a character in an RPG and head out in the world looking for adventure and danger.
Im sick of hand holding, im sick of exclamation marks above peoples heads, im sick of soloing the content and feeling like a god at level 1. I want a challenge, I want to live in a VIRTUAL WORLD again.
~Fin
whats stopping you from doing that in Rift, or GW2 or even WoW?
No offense MMOx but that's exactly what you cannot do in the examples you gave. Rift is microscopic, GW2 is non-sequential but cartoony and gives you either easy PvE, frenetic Dungeon action gaming, or PvP. WoW is so simple and silly looking as to induce a sugar stomach ache and diaper rash simultaneously.
The old games listed by OP had mystique, complexity, and the hope that over time these things would deepen in both the games listed, and those to come. This is a dark age for the V-world, a time where the non-market artistic lessons of the past have been burned by cash-grabbing corporate vandals. The console kids have risen to adulthood and see no reason why the modern adventure should not be modeled after mario or zelda, knowing no better and wishing for nothing more.
MMORPG players are often like Hobbits: They don't like Adventures
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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This person hates everything about SoE but apparently loved their games.He needs to get over it and accept SoE made the best mmorpg of all time and play EQ2.
Metallica made three good albums, Kill em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.
Since then all they have made is shit albums, just like SOE made shit games after EQ2.
Metallica isnt a good band, SOE wasnt a good company, it doesnt mean everything they made was shit, but the most recent majority is.
Theres really no explaining to do here.
Please use a dictionary and look up the word 'opinion'.
Very few people want to head out into the world to seek adventure and danger, to explore, to die and feel the pain of death. People want to be an epic hero from day one, fast travel all over the game world, join instant queues for gear runs, participate in the great zerg that is the zone event to level and visit the cash shop for boosters and hats.
You my friend like me are looking for a new game that doesn't cater to the above, something with a fixed payment model that puts everyone on a level playing field and how hard you play determines what you get out of it. I'm not aware of any being made besides maybe Pantheon.
This person hates everything about SoE but apparently loved their games.He needs to get over it and accept SoE made the best mmorpg of all time and play EQ2.
Metallica made three good albums, Kill em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.
Since then all they have made is shit albums, just like SOE made shit games after EQ2.
Metallica isnt a good band, SOE wasnt a good company, it doesnt mean everything they made was shit, but the most recent majority is.
Theres really no explaining to do here.
Please use a dictionary and look up the word 'opinion'.
I did. It was just a picture of Bill O Reilly in a duck suit, whats your point?
The game you are thinking of is, The Repopulation. Its feels like i'm playing a old school game. The game doesn't hold you're hand. Its a true open world MMO
The game you are thinking of is, The Repopulation. Its feels like i'm playing a old school game. The game doesn't hold you're hand. Its a true open world MMO
It is also primarily a PvP game and has a FPS mode. Nope IMHO not an old schools MMORPG at all.
Better try Darkfall: Unholy Wars before they pull the plug on it. Or one of the old Darkfall reboots.
DF: Unholy wars is trash compared to the original, while better than alot of the mmos on the market at the moment it pales in comparasion to the original darkfall and currently we are still waiting for the community companies to purchase the liscense to DFO, which knowing Aventurine could be years.
That said, I agree that there are only sandbox games on the horizon that look promising(like it was 2-3 years ago) but most of them were ended up indie turds and lackluster. It seems these days we are waiting for mmos more than playing them. Rather not boot up old titles like AoC.
Literally, has a very specific meaning. Literally, there are many MMOs out there to play. It would be more accurate to say that there are literally no MMOS that I think are good.. or something to that affect.
Normally, I don't get into semantic discussions, because I think people use them to justify their reasoning. In this case, I've decided to, because I think it highlights an issue that I have with the reasoning some people use.
Because a person doesn't care for something doesn't mean that the feeling/belief holds true for everyone. One man's trash is another man's treasure comes into play. It's just as valid to say, "I don't think there are any good MMOs' It would be a accurate and leave the over geralizations where they belong. They cloud the discussion.
There are many to play, but nothing I want to play for a long time. That being said I've decided to channel my energy into learning unity and reliving my childhood by creating a simple 2d game.
Hell, if I can create something along the lines of Secret of Evermore + Dungeons and Dragons as a barebone prototype. I'll be happier than whoever gets to throw it in Angelica Ebbi every night.
We need innovation, we need to stop stagnating and bring back the things weve lost before we reach the MMOPOCALYPSE.
Bringing back old ideas is NOT innovation.
May be devs look into new types of online games. MOBA is a great success example. Sure, something new may be interesting, but why go back to old designs?
Uh, science is chock full of older ideas being repurposed, re-designed, or adapted with new technologies. Often to very useful purpose.
Similar thing with entertainment. I don't go see one zombie or vampire movie and then go 'Seen one, seen them all'. There can be enjoyable depth within a trope or genre.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I check this website often but- I made an account simply to reply to this- I feel your pain I am in the same situation for the past 3 years, every new mmo has been a disappointment some more than others. Archeage, Wildstar, ESO, TOR, ETC of the new ones.
On the horizon for my self right now I am looking at Star Citizen (will be happily surprised if it pulls off), Black Desert (will probably fail but you never know) and Lost Ark which may never come here for years.
Not much to hope for it is very bleak, I have been playing mmos since 2002/3 and its the only game genre I can really dig my self into, shooters and stuff dont do anything for me yet every new mmo manages to surprise us with ways to fail. Old ones turn into cash cows. New ones are either p2w or ran by morons.
I'd say the only decent mmo around atm is gw2 yet it really is not my style, its a big megaserver instanced thing for me those type of games shouldn't even be called mmos.
I quit eve (been off and on since 04) 1.5 years ago but if black desert fails I may go back to it as it is as others have said the only real mmo around these days that stays true to its self.
I check this website often but- I made an account simply to reply to this- I feel your pain I am in the same situation for the past 3 years, every new mmo has been a disappointment some more than others. Archeage, Wildstar, ESO, TOR, ETC of the new ones.
On the horizon for my self right now I am looking at Star Citizen (will be happily surprised if it pulls off), Black Desert (will probably fail but you never know) and Lost Ark which may never come here for years.
Not much to hope for it is very bleak, I have been playing mmos since 2002/3 and its the only game genre I can really dig my self into, shooters and stuff dont do anything for me yet every new mmo manages to surprise us with ways to fail. Old ones turn into cash cows. New ones are either p2w or ran by morons.
I'd say the only decent mmo around atm is gw2 yet it really is not my style, its a big megaserver instanced thing for me those type of games shouldn't even be called mmos.
I quit eve (been off and on since 04) 1.5 years ago but if black desert fails I may go back to it as it is as others have said the only real mmo around these days that stays true to its self.
*I hear you, but Black Desert has the stench of Archeage all over it. I pre-ordered and RU beta'd the hell out of that, hoping against hope it would be the one. It turned out to be shite like the rest of them. When I tried Black Desert I got sucked in, but only to find out about the labor points like system that's in place, the easy griefing, the limitations. And the fact that they don't have any pve end game and largely don't even know wtf kind of game they want it to be.
It's shaping up just to be a good looking money grab just like the rest of the trash out right now.
**I'm super grumpy because I'm staring at my char in ESO and mad because the grouping sucks, it's buggy, the LFG tool doesn't even work, and it gets so boring after a while and yet I want desperately to play something.**
You obviously have not played League of Legends yet - drop what your doing and download League of Legends immediately, you can thank me in big red gum because that's my favorite flavor.
Lack of appreciation and gratitude in this thread is astounding.
We are talking about video games - a privilege that many can't even imagine and here you are complaning about lack in a sea of abundance.
Maybe some here don't deserve to play any games period.
No soup for yall
Well we are consumers after all, think of your super market, if it suddenly most of the food you boght got changed into beans and carrots, except you don't like beans and carrots so you are abit lost, the pizza that you so love the only ones available are well out of date or frozen rubbish.
As a consumer I am not happy with the market, I only continue playing because 'i have to buy food' or in reality I am an mmo gamer.
If it continues for another few years though I will end up quiting, only so much crap I can handle afterall. Maybe I'll get an outdoor hobby instead lmao!
But yeah.. MMOs are bad atm and I don't need to feel appreciative for what they are right now, people should strive to do better and whats on offer right now is pretty crap.
I can respect things like GW2 and EVE but I am looking for something else, a fantasy type that leans heavy on pvp but not JUST pvp.
I played conquer online 10 years ago it was right in so many ways. (bad in many too though hah)
Tried Blade & Soul, Starforge and Black Desert. All did not "click" with me although i have to say that Black Desert looks the most interesting. So i just kept playing FFXI which for me is still the best MMORPG out there.
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"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
Lack of appreciation and gratitude in this thread is astounding.
We are talking about video games - a privilege that many can't even imagine and here you are complaning about lack in a sea of abundance.
Maybe some here don't deserve to play any games period.
No soup for yall
Well we are consumers after all, think of your super market, if it suddenly most of the food you boght got changed into beans and carrots, except you don't like beans and carrots so you are abit lost, the pizza that you so love the only ones available are well out of date or frozen rubbish.
As a consumer I am not happy with the market, I only continue playing because 'i have to buy food' or in reality I am an mmo gamer.
If it continues for another few years though I will end up quiting, only so much crap I can handle afterall. Maybe I'll get an outdoor hobby instead lmao!
But yeah.. MMOs are bad atm and I don't need to feel appreciative for what they are right now, people should strive to do better and whats on offer right now is pretty crap.
I can respect things like GW2 and EVE but I am looking for something else, a fantasy type that leans heavy on pvp but not JUST pvp.
I played conquer online 10 years ago it was right in so many ways. (bad in many too though hah)
That's your opinion and I disagree with you.
The current mmos are just as amazing as back when I played UO and EQ1 in 1998/1999.
Honestly I'm happy that at least some of us are getting enjoyment. I'd like to know what game you're currently playing and why it's so great for you, or what you see is so great about what's out right now.
Lack of appreciation and gratitude in this thread is astounding.
We are talking about video games - a privilege that many can't even imagine and here you are complaning about lack in a sea of abundance.
Maybe some here don't deserve to play any games period.
No soup for yall
Well we are consumers after all, think of your super market, if it suddenly most of the food you boght got changed into beans and carrots, except you don't like beans and carrots so you are abit lost, the pizza that you so love the only ones available are well out of date or frozen rubbish.
As a consumer I am not happy with the market, I only continue playing because 'i have to buy food' or in reality I am an mmo gamer.
If it continues for another few years though I will end up quiting, only so much crap I can handle afterall. Maybe I'll get an outdoor hobby instead lmao!
But yeah.. MMOs are bad atm and I don't need to feel appreciative for what they are right now, people should strive to do better and whats on offer right now is pretty crap.
I can respect things like GW2 and EVE but I am looking for something else, a fantasy type that leans heavy on pvp but not JUST pvp.
I played conquer online 10 years ago it was right in so many ways. (bad in many too though hah)
That's your opinion and I disagree with you.
The current mmos are just as amazing as back when I played UO and EQ1 in 1998/1999.
Honestly I'm happy that at least some of us are getting enjoyment. I'd like to know what game you're currently playing and why it's so great for you, or what you see is so great about what's out right now.
I can answer some of that for Kano....
Whatever the hell you want to play that makes you happy.
"Lack of appreciation and gratitude in this thread is astounding.
We
are talking about video games - a privilege that many can't even
imagine and here you are complaning about lack in a sea of abundance.
Maybe some here don't deserve to play any games period.
No soup for yall "
There are a TON of MMOs out that are as good or better than anything released in the past. You just may be....may...be....tired of the genre
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Seriously, I was just scrolling down the list of highly rated and released MMO's and none of them sounded appealing. Like literally every single one of them was just giving me a sour feeling and making my head spin.
One of the top rated "MMO's" on this site right now is SMITE. SMITE is a moba!! Its not even an MMO!
ESO is repetitive, FF14 is nothing but grind, Secret World is all mystery no substance, Guild Wars 2 is just Meh.
Literally nothing, you know what I want?
COH
SWG
Everquest 1999
Anything that just lets me make a character in an RPG and head out in the world looking for adventure and danger.
Im sick of hand holding, im sick of exclamation marks above peoples heads, im sick of soloing the content and feeling like a god at level 1. I want a challenge, I want to live in a VIRTUAL WORLD again.
~Fin
if that is the case, then the mmo genre as it is now, is no longer for you or those trying to cling to the past. I personally have moved on to games like POE and marvel heroes(big arpg fan). with console games here and there but arpg is my bread and butter genre. Time to look for other genres to play. there are nice srpgs and jrpgs out there as well(sword coast,pillar,civ games, and the such)
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The old games listed by OP had mystique, complexity, and the hope that over time these things would deepen in both the games listed, and those to come. This is a dark age for the V-world, a time where the non-market artistic lessons of the past have been burned by cash-grabbing corporate vandals. The console kids have risen to adulthood and see no reason why the modern adventure should not be modeled after mario or zelda, knowing no better and wishing for nothing more.
It is great that they are no longer shackled by the old gameplay. If I have to wait for boat rides in modern MMOs, do you think i will still be here?
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Very few people want to head out into the world to seek adventure and danger, to explore, to die and feel the pain of death. People want to be an epic hero from day one, fast travel all over the game world, join instant queues for gear runs, participate in the great zerg that is the zone event to level and visit the cash shop for boosters and hats.
You my friend like me are looking for a new game that doesn't cater to the above, something with a fixed payment model that puts everyone on a level playing field and how hard you play determines what you get out of it. I'm not aware of any being made besides maybe Pantheon.
The game you are thinking of is, The Repopulation. Its feels like i'm playing a old school game. The game doesn't hold you're hand. Its a true open world MMO
That said, I agree that there are only sandbox games on the horizon that look promising(like it was 2-3 years ago) but most of them were ended up indie turds and lackluster. It seems these days we are waiting for mmos more than playing them. Rather not boot up old titles like AoC.
MurderHerd
Otherwise, count me out.
Normally, I don't get into semantic discussions, because I think people use them to justify their reasoning. In this case, I've decided to, because I think it highlights an issue that I have with the reasoning some people use.
Because a person doesn't care for something doesn't mean that the feeling/belief holds true for everyone. One man's trash is another man's treasure comes into play. It's just as valid to say, "I don't think there are any good MMOs' It would be a accurate and leave the over geralizations where they belong. They cloud the discussion.
I self identify as a monkey.
Hell, if I can create something along the lines of Secret of Evermore + Dungeons and Dragons as a barebone prototype. I'll be happier than whoever gets to throw it in Angelica Ebbi every night.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Uh, science is chock full of older ideas being repurposed, re-designed, or adapted with new technologies. Often to very useful purpose.
Similar thing with entertainment. I don't go see one zombie or vampire movie and then go 'Seen one, seen them all'. There can be enjoyable depth within a trope or genre.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
I feel your pain I am in the same situation for the past 3 years, every new mmo has been a disappointment some more than others.
Archeage, Wildstar, ESO, TOR, ETC of the new ones.
On the horizon for my self right now I am looking at Star Citizen (will be happily surprised if it pulls off), Black Desert (will probably fail but you never know) and Lost Ark which may never come here for years.
Not much to hope for it is very bleak, I have been playing mmos since 2002/3 and its the only game genre I can really dig my self into, shooters and stuff dont do anything for me yet every new mmo manages to surprise us with ways to fail. Old ones turn into cash cows. New ones are either p2w or ran by morons.
I'd say the only decent mmo around atm is gw2 yet it really is not my style, its a big megaserver instanced thing for me those type of games shouldn't even be called mmos.
I quit eve (been off and on since 04) 1.5 years ago but if black desert fails I may go back to it as it is as others have said the only real mmo around these days that stays true to its self.
It's shaping up just to be a good looking money grab just like the rest of the trash out right now.
**I'm super grumpy because I'm staring at my char in ESO and mad because the grouping sucks, it's buggy, the LFG tool doesn't even work, and it gets so boring after a while and yet I want desperately to play something.**
As a consumer I am not happy with the market, I only continue playing because 'i have to buy food' or in reality I am an mmo gamer.
If it continues for another few years though I will end up quiting, only so much crap I can handle afterall. Maybe I'll get an outdoor hobby instead lmao!
But yeah.. MMOs are bad atm and I don't need to feel appreciative for what they are right now, people should strive to do better and whats on offer right now is pretty crap.
I can respect things like GW2 and EVE but I am looking for something else, a fantasy type that leans heavy on pvp but not JUST pvp.
I played conquer online 10 years ago it was right in so many ways. (bad in many too though hah)
^And this
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
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Whatever the hell you want to play that makes you happy.
"Lack of appreciation and gratitude in this thread is astounding.
We are talking about video games - a privilege that many can't even imagine and here you are complaning about lack in a sea of abundance.
Maybe some here don't deserve to play any games period.
No soup for yall
There are a TON of MMOs out that are as good or better than anything released in the past. You just may be....may...be....tired of the genre
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."