May be people have time to waste? We don't need to use every single second of our life productively, do we?
People just don't do things they consider a "waste of time". There is always a perceived value motivating the decision to do something. Because it's good for society, or good for my family, or good for my income, or it's just fun.
So anyone who's finding any of that value from a product and then proceeding to call it a "waste of time" simply has a malformed notion of what wasting time is.
May be people have time to waste? We don't need to use every single second of our life productively, do we?
People just don't do things they consider a "waste of time". There is always a perceived value motivating the decision to do something. Because it's good for society, or good for my family, or good for my income, or it's just fun.
I cannot have a fun waste of time? Then what do you call what I am doing here? Wait .. is that one of those things that you will quote dictionaries, and debate definitions?
There's nothing wrong in engaging activities that are "wastes of time". Living a life under constant pressure is something only very few can do, if any. The important thing is to accept that those activities are just leisure activities, not mandatory for life, and that there are more important priorities that should take over when required. As I already said, there are three categories of people for whom video games are more than a "time wasting" hobby: "Pro-gamers", and that's like one in million at best, not to mention they are mostly limited to competitive multiplayer games, journalists/media people (or wannabees), and thats also a tiny minority only a few here are part of, and basement dwellers living on someone else's income to be able to play games as their main life activity. For everyone else, aka the very, very vast majority, it's fun stuff they do when they have time to, aka time wasting activities engaged for fun.
So when I read someone say that video games should be than just a hobby, yeah, I'm a bit scared. Talk about being out of reality. I'm torn between giving him a Darwin award and compassion/pity.
No, I'm saying that's a malformed definition of "waste of time" which assumes that time is wasted if it's not enjoyed at breakneck pace with capitalism-defined productivity at all times.
Instead, the value of gaming is in part relaxation, and so if someone extracts that value successfully from a game, then they haven't wasted time.
Certainly one could argue the benefits to society that exist when a society guilts itself into believe its time is "wasted" when it's not spent contributing back to society. But obviously at a certain point that hits a flaw where obviously peoples' lives become worse if this guilt-driven attitude results in them being tired workaholics who never relax.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
I cannot have a fun waste of time? Then what do you call what I am doing here? Wait .. is that one of those things that you will quote dictionaries, and debate definitions?
You wouldn't be posting here if you got no value out of it. What that value is, only you know nariusseldon.
But nobody does things without a motivation, and that perceived potential value is why the time isn't wasted. (Only when none of that expected value comes to fruition could your time doing something be considered wasted -- although even then you learned that doing X didn't reward you with Y, and that learning has value, so it's actually extremely rare that a situation is truly 100% wasted.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
"Waste of time" is completely based on someones perspective and I wouldn't take anyone who says the phrase too seriously if they are pointing at a hobby or leisure activity.
Scot puts on his slippers and settles into his armchair. Taps out his pipe before filling it with some pipeweed and thinking about the young folk.
Agree with most of what the OP said, the market has moved on, all you can do is find the best MMO out there and find a good guild. There's gnarly oldies like you in a guild in every good MMO that you can join.
Jean-Luc_Picard are there any games with the asshat class? I'd love to play an mmorpg that was all sarcastic, spoof, weird, etc.... aka hitchhikers guide, space quest, doom & destiny, 8bit theater, disc world, munchkin
Really? I remember a lot of real asshats in all three major old school games, UO, EQ and AC1. You even had "dedicated" asshats actually. Do you really think it's the new games which invented chat rudeness, asshat behavior, ninja looting, kill stealing, ganking, corpse camping, etc...
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Perceived (entertainment) Value.
I cannot have a fun waste of time? Then what do you call what I am doing here? Wait .. is that one of those things that you will quote dictionaries, and debate definitions?
Instead, the value of gaming is in part relaxation, and so if someone extracts that value successfully from a game, then they haven't wasted time.
Certainly one could argue the benefits to society that exist when a society guilts itself into believe its time is "wasted" when it's not spent contributing back to society. But obviously at a certain point that hits a flaw where obviously peoples' lives become worse if this guilt-driven attitude results in them being tired workaholics who never relax.
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
You wouldn't be posting here if you got no value out of it. What that value is, only you know nariusseldon.
But nobody does things without a motivation, and that perceived potential value is why the time isn't wasted. (Only when none of that expected value comes to fruition could your time doing something be considered wasted -- although even then you learned that doing X didn't reward you with Y, and that learning has value, so it's actually extremely rare that a situation is truly 100% wasted.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Having fun is a great use of the little time we have.
Scot puts on his slippers and settles into his armchair. Taps out his pipe before filling it with some pipeweed and thinking about the young folk.
Agree with most of what the OP said, the market has moved on, all you can do is find the best MMO out there and find a good guild. There's gnarly oldies like you in a guild in every good MMO that you can join.