Did you buy and support the base game when it was in Korea ? Why do you feel you're entitled to what was in the game in Korea when this game has been localized, published here in US and Europe with a changed monetization and version.
If you're playing in Korea I can understand your reasoning since these were in the base game in Korea. The version that is released here is not the same as the one in Korea. It is also governed by licensing and publishing contracts . The game is also F2P in Korea if I am not mistaken and much more P2W too. So they make money on the game using a different method.
Since they cannot use the same method they used in Korea they removed costumes and dyes as a way to earn money. I don't see the problem here.
Pardon me ,you ask why are publishers so greedy may I ask why are players so greedy that they want everything for free without thinking about running costs and such. They want to make money they are not in this for their constitution for sure so they are charging for costumes and dyes.
The argument that if you let this slip it will get worse is rubbish . It is more like players whining about even dyes and costumes when they are getting whole games out there not BDO which is B2P for absolutely free. It's about time people curb their own greed and wanting every damn thing in a game for free.
For free Dude we payed for the game it's not f2p here ? This stuff was available to anyone in the game, and they still took it away to move it to the shop are you people that brainwashed allrdy?
It's either that or a $15/month subscription. What do you prefer? A cash shop you definitely aren't forced to use to fully enjoy the game, or a fixed $15 monthly fee you are forced to pay to even just be able to log into the game? Either way, developers and content creators are human beings with families who deserve a paycheck.
I'd take $15/month any day of the week if that meant that the entire shop went into crafting, lootdrops and rewards instead. Unfortunately, I'm part of the minority here.
Even if they charged you $20 a month they would likely still have a cash shop, CCP does for EVE and even FFXIV might have one now.
Genie is out of the bottle, and game Devs will employ many different monetization tools including kickstarters, preorders, premium preorder packs, early access to alphas/betas, early name reservation, box fees up front before the game evem launches.
At launch you can now buy your way out of the log in queue, and afterwards almost every game out there has some form of cash shop that ranges from the more limited such as in ESO to the extreme as found in many PWI titles.
Don't forget services either such as extra character slots, name changes, upgrades to premium packs as well.
On top of all that, many titles will offer a monthly fee, patron status or whatever, but since it usually only delivers a portion of the full feature set I say even CCP doesn't deserve to use the term subscription fee, required monthly patron charge is more accurate.
I expect one day they'll find a way to charge us to stop playing their games, and come to think of it some actually have when they "accidentally" fail to stop or even restart charging reoccurring monthly fees.
Lets face, you can debate the golden age of MMORPGs is over or not, but for sure the golden age of paying a set fee for the fulll range of services is long past.
Don't get me wrong, the masses have spoken and they clearly prefer this a la carte approach to paying for and playing games, but for those of us who preferred the earlier model it's over.
We are more likely to get a AAA FFA full loot Sandbox style vitual world MMORPG than we ever are in seeing a strong return to the "sub only" model. (If that ever really existed, I'm not so sure anymore)
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Did you buy and support the base game when it was in Korea ? Why do you feel you're entitled to what was in the game in Korea when this game has been localized, published here in US and Europe with a changed monetization and version.
If you playing in Korea I can understand your reasoning since these were in the base game in Korea. The version that is released here is not the same as the one in Korea. It is also governed by licensing and publishing contracts . The game is also F2P in Korea if I am not mistaken and must more P2W too. So they make money on the game using a different method.
It's still the same f2p game (you couldn't buy the game in Korea it's from ground up made f2p) we are only getting minor perks and a lot less content Korea has now for our money so i don't see your point. They even left the door open for being able to sell cash shop stuff in the auction house in the future.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event in Velia. You got a cat coupon. I, of course, cannot see the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got that exact same event in NA/EU.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
Wtf yeah because they removed it that's what i am saying all along what's wrong with you people...
Lol. Dude, we had free pets/cats in NA/EU during CBT as well.
It's a test thing.
Those where from the cash shop test.... This is clearly a quest made with the pet as a reward in mind and not a test it's still in game.You are defying logic, rationality, the evidence & motive my friend. Anyway let's talk about this again in month or 2 when the hype has come down some people are clearly not thinking reasonable here anymore
All in all I still think the game holds value but it is however diminished somewhat, IMO. I, like a lot of the others in here would have rather had a sub, especially if they are going to charge for a "box" anyways. The items like pets and the inventory slots are more than just novelty items, as you progress they become quite important to have or your game-play experience will start crumby. I don't know about you but playing the inventory "mini-game" is NOT fun at all.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
Wtf yeah because they removed it that's what i am saying all along what's wrong with you people...
Lol. Dude, we had free pets/cats in NA/EU during CBT as well.
It's a test thing.
Those where from the cash shop test.... This is clearly a quest made with the pet as a reward in mind and not a test it's still in game.You are defying logic, rationality, the evidence & motive my friend. Anyway let's talk about this again in month or 2 when the hype has come down some people are clearly not thinking reasonable here anymore
KR had pets in test/CBT. NA/EU had pets in test/CBT.
Since launch, neither has free pets outside events.
It's been that way since day one. That's all you need to know.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
Wtf yeah because they removed it that's what i am saying all along what's wrong with you people...
Lol. Dude, we had free pets/cats in NA/EU during CBT as well.
It's a test thing.
Those where from the cash shop test.... This is clearly a quest made with the pet as a reward in mind and not a test it's still in game.You are defying logic, rationality, the evidence & motive my friend. Anyway let's talk about this again in month or 2 when the hype has come down some people are clearly not thinking reasonable here anymore
KR had pets in test/CBT. NA/EU had pets in test/CBT.
Neither has free pets outside events.
It's been that way since day one. That's all you need to know.
Im sorry but i don't have time to argue with people who defy reality at that point we are in Lalaland and that's not where i want to be.
I like the game design but it's completely ruined by the cash shop for me. I just don't understand how things like this seem to have become widely accepted in the MMORPG community.
The only way to respecc skills is to pay for it in the cash shop.
Revive potions from the cash shop let you revive instantly on the spot, massive advantage in PvP. It also removes the loss of 2% exp you normally get from dying, if you are high level this will save you hours of time grinding.
The ghillie suit in the cash shop removes your name and guild name over your head and gives great camouflage. Just removing the name is a huge advantage in large scale PvP since your enemies can't call out "target Bob the wizard" when they can't see Bobs character name. I like the item but you should be able to earn it in-game.
You can pay for an extra breeding attempt with horses. This can be used to buy in-game currency for IRL cash since horses can be sold on the market. Breed high tier horses and buy extra breeding attempt -> sell on market and repeat to become rich.
Loot pets that give various bonuses, having three pets is a must for anyone
grinding mobs because they save so much time looting.
Getting the best possible bonuses requires breeding that will cost you hundreds of
dollars.
You have very limited inventory space and carry weight, pay for more.
Spend many hours collecting materials and refining them to be able to build a boat or wagon, or just spend some cash and buy it in the cash shop.
Costume sets in the cash shop that give 10% bonus XP and some other stats.
Underwear from cash shop gives bonus luck that increases loot drops from mobs.
This stuff is in the game because players accept it and spend money on it, you can't really blame the publishers for trying to make as much money as possible. What you can do is take a stance against games with cash shops like this, support the type of games you want to play. Also remember that this is what's in the game at launch, who knows what they will add later when players are invested in their characters.
My ideal monetization model for this game would be box price + subscription. An alternative model to get more people to try the game would be f2p or b2p and you have to pay a subscription to get access to "convenience items" like loot pets and extra bag slots + weight, if it's b2p you get the convenience items for free the first month.
I like the game design but it's completely ruined by the cash shop for me. I just don't understand how things like this seem to have become widely accepted in the MMORPG community.
The only way to respecc skills is to pay for it in the cash shop.
Revive potions let you revive instantly on the spot, massive advantage in PvP. It also removes the loss of 2% exp you normally get from dying, if you are high level this will save you hours of time grinding.
The ghillie suit in the cash shop removes your name and guild name over your head and gives great camouflage. Just removing the name is a huge advantage in large scale PvP since your enemies can't call out "target Bob the wizard" when they can't see Bobs character name. I like the item but you should be able to earn it in-game.
You can pay for an extra breeding attempt with horses. This can be used to buy in-game currency for IRL cash since horses can be sold on the market. Breed high tier horses and buy extra breeding attempt -> sell on market and repeat to become rich.
Loot pets that give various bonuses, having three pets is a must for anyone
grinding mobs because they save so much time looting.
Getting the best possible bonuses requires breeding that will cost you hundreds of
dollars.
You have very limited inventory space and carry weight, pay for more.
Spend many hours collecting materials and refining them to be able to build a boat or wagon. Or just spend some cash and buy it in the cash shop.
Costume sets in the cash shop that give 10% bonus XP and some other stats.
Underwear from cash shop gives bonus luck that increases loot drops from mobs.
This stuff is in the game because players accept it and spend money on it, you can't really blame the publishers for trying to make as much money as possible. What you can do is take a stance against games with cash shops like this, support the type of games you want to play.
My ideal monetization model for this game would be box price + subscription. An alternative model to get more people to try the game would be f2p or b2p and you have to pay a subscription to get access to "convenience items" like loot pets and extra bag slots + weight, if it's b2p you get the convenience items for free the first month.
I'm not gonna bother to go thru each of those points one by one, but the reason most people accept those is because yu have posted the impression you would get from not really knowing what you are talking about. Or if you deliberately wanted to talk down the game. Most are just wrong.
Just as an example as it was your first point, there are respec items in the packages you buy to play the game, there is a complete free respec at level 45, and free respec items are given away in events. It not just "The only way to respecc skills is to pay for it in the cash shop." Pretty much the same deal for all those "half"-points you make - shrug-.
It is true the game had become more friendly towards carebears as originally it was aimed almost exclusively at the toxics. I personally see that as a BIG plus. But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
One of the quests is shown right here in the op.
Yeah, that was the event.
Dude cmon seriously are you blind? that's a normal quest and the quest is still here btw they just removed the cat reward which makes it even more awkward since it's clearly still reverenced there.
Wtf yeah because they removed it that's what i am saying all along what's wrong with you people...
Lol. Dude, we had free pets/cats in NA/EU during CBT as well.
It's a test thing.
Those where from the cash shop test.... This is clearly a quest made with the pet as a reward in mind and not a test it's still in game.You are defying logic, rationality, the evidence & motive my friend. Anyway let's talk about this again in month or 2 when the hype has come down some people are clearly not thinking reasonable here anymore
KR had pets in test/CBT. NA/EU had pets in test/CBT.
Neither has free pets outside events.
It's been that way since day one. That's all you need to know.
Im sorry but i don't have time to argue with people who defy reality at that point we are in Lalaland and that's not where i want to be.
Wow! You're a real whiner, aren't you? Go cry in your over sized body pillow. Your whole thread isn't going to change anything. You're just complaining to complain and tell everyone they are irrational if they don't agree with your agenda.
Have you thought that maybe the majority of people just don't care? I know I could care less about dyes being in a cash shop or pets for that matter. I'm not going to go out of my way to get either of those things as I don't even consider it content. It's nothing but fluff to me. I know I don't speak for everyone but I feel that the majority of people look at such items the same way. That's why your getting so much shit.
The pay wall is irrelevant when your bitching about fluff items.
So to summarize: Fluff does not equate to content
Shit, people didn't get mad when LoTRo put real content behind a pay wall or grind wall if you'd prefer. Why would they get mad about dyes?
If you are only here to throw around insults you might as well not post all. And don't speak for the majority of people you have no clue what they want or not.
I played korean CBT 1 - it was amazing and IMO the vision for the game was in line what they've been talking about for anyone who followed the game for years prior.
I remember all of those early interviews about single world without instances and open world housing and open PvP. My entire guild was instantly ready to play this as soon as it was available.
The changes that happened post CBT2 were frankly shocking to anyone who followed and played the early Korean betas.
Talk about a full 180 from what they talked about for 2+ years - pretty much pissed off the entire original loyal fanbase they had.
Oh well it happens.
My guild won't play BD anymore but I will. Shit happens, just gotta make the best of it.
I'm more upset that they changed the game to attempt pander to everyone, as stated by Kano above...than I am upset about anything in the cash shop.
If you are only here to throw around insults you might as well not post all. And don't speak for the majority of people you have no clue what they want or not.
I only have one question for the Messiah... will you still be posting this about the game say 6 months from now when everyone is playing the next new shiny?
Because if you are the true Messiah... you will still be saving us well past the initial release rush is over and when only the true diehards remain.
If you are only here to throw around insults you might as well not post all. And don't speak for the majority of people you have no clue what they want or not.
I only have one question for the Messiah... will you still be posting this about the game say 6 months from now when everyone is playing the next new shiny?
Because if you are the true Messiah... you will still be saving us well past the initial release rush is over and when only the true diehards remain.
I'm not a prophet my friend just someone who provides some facts, take them for what they are or ignore them and leave i don't care either way.
What if after a year they release a huge expansion which doubles the size of the game and adds a lot of the features people want BUT they made it pay to play. But also sold in game time in the cash shop or with in game currency and made trading between players possible.
So they basically make the game better keep the cash shop offer the game as a sub but with the option to pay for that sub with in game currency.
Interesting read i don't think a lot of it would have worked out anyway but it sounded nice on paper a shame they removed the armor models and such seems like a real dick move to me.
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If you're playing in Korea I can understand your reasoning since these were in the base game in Korea. The version that is released here is not the same as the one in Korea. It is also governed by licensing and publishing contracts . The game is also F2P in Korea if I am not mistaken and much more P2W too. So they make money on the game using a different method.
Since they cannot use the same method they used in Korea they removed costumes and dyes as a way to earn money. I don't see the problem here.
Oh you can't? Don't complain then.
Genie is out of the bottle, and game Devs will employ many different monetization tools including kickstarters, preorders, premium preorder packs, early access to alphas/betas, early name reservation, box fees up front before the game evem launches.
At launch you can now buy your way out of the log in queue, and afterwards almost every game out there has some form of cash shop that ranges from the more limited such as in ESO to the extreme as found in many PWI titles.
Don't forget services either such as extra character slots, name changes, upgrades to premium packs as well.
On top of all that, many titles will offer a monthly fee, patron status or whatever, but since it usually only delivers a portion of the full feature set I say even CCP doesn't deserve to use the term subscription fee, required monthly patron charge is more accurate.
I expect one day they'll find a way to charge us to stop playing their games, and come to think of it some actually have when they "accidentally" fail to stop or even restart charging reoccurring monthly fees.
Lets face, you can debate the golden age of MMORPGs is over or not, but for sure the golden age of paying a set fee for the fulll range of services is long past.
Don't get me wrong, the masses have spoken and they clearly prefer this a la carte approach to paying for and playing games, but for those of us who preferred the earlier model it's over.
We are more likely to get a AAA FFA full loot Sandbox style vitual world MMORPG than we ever are in seeing a strong return to the "sub only" model. (If that ever really existed, I'm not so sure anymore)
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They even left the door open for being able to sell cash shop stuff in the auction house in the future.
But dyes and costumes missing? If that's the worst, bring it on! (Dyes drop as loot and you can craft costumes in NA/EU).
By the way, I read elsewhere pets were an event prize, not a quest reward. Dunno if that's true, but if so, will probably happen down the line. I know that someone got a Penguin pet from a somewhere during Beta (not the CS as it wasn't available), but whether that was loot, quest or drop I have no idea.
Trouble is, everything in the OP's post could be true, or it could be garbage. Until you have levelled to 55 and done all the quests (10,000) on NA/EU how do you know? The OP didn't, nobody did during Beta. It's just guesswork.
This thread will not change the monetary system of the game. It is too profitable. Understand that and either accept or move on.
http://bddatabase.net/us/quest/1001/5/
-shrug- easy to google it, dude:
http://black-desert.com/forums/index.php/Thread/3968-Can-you-still-get-a-cat/
IT'S EVEN IN THE TITLE OF THE VID YOU LINKED.
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It's a test thing.
This is clearly a quest made with the pet as a reward in mind and not a test it's still in game.You are defying logic, rationality, the evidence & motive my friend.
Anyway let's talk about this again in month or 2 when the hype has come down some people are clearly not thinking reasonable here anymore
Since launch, neither has free pets outside events.
It's been that way since day one. That's all you need to know.
This stuff is in the game because players accept it and spend money on it, you can't really blame the publishers for trying to make as much money as possible. What you can do is take a stance against games with cash shops like this, support the type of games you want to play. Also remember that this is what's in the game at launch, who knows what they will add later when players are invested in their characters.
My ideal monetization model for this game would be box price + subscription. An alternative model to get more people to try the game would be f2p or b2p and you have to pay a subscription to get access to "convenience items" like loot pets and extra bag slots + weight, if it's b2p you get the convenience items for free the first month.
Just as an example as it was your first point, there are respec items in the packages you buy to play the game, there is a complete free respec at level 45, and free respec items are given away in events.
It not just "The only way to respecc skills is to pay for it in the cash shop."
Pretty much the same deal for all those "half"-points you make - shrug-.
Have you thought that maybe the majority of people just don't care? I know I could care less about dyes being in a cash shop or pets for that matter. I'm not going to go out of my way to get either of those things as I don't even consider it content. It's nothing but fluff to me. I know I don't speak for everyone but I feel that the majority of people look at such items the same way. That's why your getting so much shit.
The pay wall is irrelevant when your bitching about fluff items.
So to summarize:
Fluff does not equate to content
Shit, people didn't get mad when LoTRo put real content behind a pay wall or grind wall if you'd prefer. Why would they get mad about dyes?
If it bothers you that much don't play.
And don't speak for the majority of people you have no clue what they want or not.
Because if you are the true Messiah... you will still be saving us well past the initial release rush is over and when only the true diehards remain.
So they basically make the game better keep the cash shop offer the game as a sub but with the option to pay for that sub with in game currency.
Then what?