oh i keep forgetting i joined a private server of a game once i actually mentioned it on this forum by mistake a while back when i joined nearly every week there was a change to the class skills for more balance and the game they put that much work into and that was free webzen no finished guides and oh we have a problem open a new server bingo cheapo it was probably the cheapest option because obviously a wipe probably would of cost more money and man power which they probably don't have and is showing.
I don't know about this new game Eloa but i would say they are probably just surviving off MU and age of Wulin.
You are more than welcome show this thread to people at Webzen and they can come and clear things up but from the review on glassdoor i doubt anyone cares actually that last bit isn't fair there is probably some who do care but have their hands tied or not in a position to do anything.
If the game went into open beta in 20013 like the wiki says then obviously that server must of had the level 60 content added by now and have been shown bit of the next content because 3 years would be a long wait with just 1 expansion i don't know if that information is right on the website.
that is right what i have just said you can look it up i can't be bothered.
A lot of places around the world use UTC time as a reference. I'm in in UTC-8 or GMT-8 depending on what reference you like to use. That doesn't mean everyone is on the international date line. It means they're using it as a reference.
Of course you are -8 utc time because of where you live and the time difference i am on the same time as UTC time and so is probably Dublin who ever agreed to this post have never worked out time zones and probably why my posts are being ignored the u niversal time doesn't keep changing from where people live UTC time will still run the same time as UK time i think it's only a few seconds out GMT and UTC time.
so that is why it makes sense if the offices are in Dublin if they are using UTC times for office hours.
It's pretty fun for a tab target, here's my poorly written take on the game as a 37 ora rogue.
Pros+ +Easy to expand your inventory and bank space, doesn't use gold but another currency that they hand out pretty regular.
+Smooth controls, it feels great, no complaints.
+Graphics are a 50/50 for me, I like the character models/armor/weapons and some of the monsters but there are quite a few places where the textures on the ground or walls look very bad. Not a big deal for me.
+Dungeons have 3 difficulties, 1 player, 3 player, 5 player. No idea about raids. I like this, especially since it's so hard to find others to play with.
Cons- -PVP is eventually forced when you get to a certain zone, it doesn't happen in all the zones from what I understand but it does eventually become a reality around 40. Cap is 50.
-Public quests reward only the top 2 contributors with tai tokens, which you really need to get gear with later on since no one is running dungeons often. I'm on the ora(red) side, we've got no population.
-Currently on the blue side there is a guild full of pvpers who go out of their way to ruin the red sides leveling pace, they have top end gear and numbers and are generally very disruptive.
-Gear has far too great an impact on damage/stats and the enchanting system doesn't help. Yeah it has one of those korean enchanting systems we all know and love.
-Pve is way too easy and gets repetitive quickly. Sometimes the mobs are too clustered or too spread out but it's an annoyance either way.
-Quest text is hard to make out, it's like a tidied up machine translation.
-Questing gets repetitive fast. Eventually you have to kill 17 of something and can potentially have 3 or 4 quests all to kill or collect an obscene amount of things in the same area. It's the pits.
-Class balance right now is a nightmare as mages can solo content not intended to be done solo.
Regardless of my woes with the game this is the longest I've played and farthest I've ever gotten in a pure f2p game. It was fun for a while but I think at the pace I'm playing now I'll be lucky to make it to 40. Still, I don't regret the time I played and think despite the apperance on the cover that everyone who likes tab-target combat should give it a go.
If you don't understand why i was talking about UTC time sorry maybe some of you haven't read the whole thread like some don't this is why because blue think's Webzen is doing fine when they probably aren't and thinks the Dublin office have nothing to do with Asta.
I think the Dublin office is the main office because they are using UTC time and the review on glassdoor would make sense why Asta has been rushed like come on the guides are still not complete and people will only just get a rubbish service then complain when they have spent 500 dollars some have already spent 200 dollars.
just trying to save people money sorry to sound like a moaning Minnie but i have seen this before. lol
Ask them about future content even the stuff past 60 i would hope if a game allows someone to spend so much money that would obviously be going towards future content.
Just to lighten things up What's Happening she used to make me giggle.
I forgot i posted this in another thread it just came to me now look at where the job vancancies are for btw this is posted in Asta forums i forgot all about this so they probably are in charge of the servers.
I've played this a bit too, and it's not a bad game at all. It's just so traditional a theme park (at least in the first few hours) that it was hard for me to not feel like my time would be better spent elsewhere. It's not bad, and if you're looking for WoW-but-not-WoW this might be one of your best options.
Just don't get mad at the author for stating what's clearly truth: Webzen even marketed this as a game to play while you wait for WoW, and the open beta is essentially launch, as progress isn't being wiped and money can be spend in the cash shop, no?
Anyway: like what you like, play what you want to play, and don't let anyone else's opinion on the matter ruin your good time. If I did that, I would have stopped playing Guild Wars 2 right after launch based on these forums. :chuffed:
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
Review and Rebuttle. First off to say this is a wow clone instantly causes readers to turn of their minds and not read the article. They immediately discount the game and move on.
That is not fare to the developers.
Secondly there is a group of wow fans who have been begging for a game that gives that wow classic feel with a modern twist. Asta online is in my opinion that game. The game is in open beta first off.
This is not considered feature complete. Just a reminder.
I am currently 48 in the game and working to 50.
Graphics and presentation are very nice. There are some amazing looking creatures in this game you will meet.I saw a death's head scorpion and well kinda freaked out. Scary as hell.
I made an archer. I have generally always been a warrior player in most mmos and decided to do an archer for once. I found the archer play style breezy and fun. 2 separate talent trees. Crit and Evasion.
Crit = the Pve spec. Evasion is the Pvp/World pvp spec.
There is a macro system in this game but its not like Wow its actually very intutive but its not so automated to the point that you can play the game with 1 mouse. IT does require you to play the game. A good thing in my opinion.
There is Crafting 2 professions max. 4 sub professions you can learn all.
Crafting = Jewelcrafting,Carpentry,Tailoring,Alchemy,Blacksmithing
Harvesting is not a profession but basically a skill Everyone can use.. wether its Mining or herbs.
There is no first aid instead everyone gets bandaid skill that heals for 20% of you hp based on your hp. So it scales.
Stat allocation.. Yes something folks miss from the ole days of wow is back.
You can actually set the stats you want as you level.. plus you can.. also use a random generator system to allocate more points on top. There are items that give you free rolls.
And if you roll enough you can end up also costing gold to roll more.
There are also Permanent Buffs you can acquire based on Divine spirits. those Divine spirits are actually based on year signs. like.. The ox..= Bonus hp. They are also separated based on quality.
So white/green/blue/Yellow/Gold Gold = unique and rarest and most powerful.
This game has amazing stat depth and customization on how to tweak your character.
There also Enhances you can get for your weapons and gear. These can be aquired by dismantling gear. Enhance stones Make a massive power boost or defensive boost.
There is also a socketer npc that can allow you to add a gem that gives your weapon a special proc.
There is Pvp in this game. there is Class 1vs1, team 5vs5 currently bugged at the moment.
Battlegrounds 10vs 10. And Guild wars max level 50s in 40vs40 combat.
Plus yes there are zone late in the game that are world pvp based. But only those zones are accessible for it. And there are mean guards that can one shot a max level player if they try to intrude into a base. So no ganking lowbies is not as easy as one might expect.
Quick note there is a group public quest system that rewards the top 2 players with a token.
Those tokens if saved can unlock really power gear. So as your leveling its advised to do those public quests as much as possible as you level.
Finally this game is really fun for those who want an mmo that reminds you of wow but is far more challenging.. by the time you hit 50.. you will also unlock... over 13 Dungeons..and each has solo mode/3man/5man and then VERY HARD 5man. Those dungeons will challenge anyone. Especially the very hard modes.
really amazing game that is looking for players to help in giving feedback to refine it.
But as it is Asta online is pretty amazing.
quick note yes there is Raiding in this game too.
And yes its challenging as well.
I hope this review helps anyone with an open mind.
Thejedi Guild leader of Exhilaration on Asu Faction us1.
Asta is a fun game, a theme park well done, i can say "old school" in the way graphics and combat are but... it works. I didn't saw any lag and had only 1 crash to desktop so far, i'm liv 26 and did arenas, battlegrounds, quests and dungeons. I found also a great, friendly guild of my country (Italy) so i can play with others and i'm enjoing this game so far. The "wow" feeling (or lotro or swtor or other theme parks mmo) is real but is for me good, is what i was looking for.
I don't know if this if east or west but maybe their games don't do well in the west i don't know i haven't played any of their other games.
You have a weird obsession with Webzen.. They're really not a bad company considering all they do is F2P games, there's so many worse ones out there.
I actually like how they handle the free to play. You are right there are some really bad ones on the market. Their games, may not be earth shattering awesome, yet are decent and you can realistically play them all for free.
Completely agree with you mate, the games aren't ex-subscription/B2P models but they're generally eastern games brought to the west and I'd trust Webzen to bring these kind of games out over any other publisher atm.
That's not 100% true. They did have some extremely pay to win games too. When they were hosting the original Archlord (which was a P2P that went F2P) it was pay to win in the most extreme sense. Cash shop potions and upgrades were making it so cash cows would own the server (be the archlord). Same with Archlord 2, and from what I understand ELOA was like that as well. While I do think that they have taken a lot of turns in the right way so that their games can be 100% free now, but they also like to get rid of a lot of games on a whim, didn't they also eat up Gpotato? Who hosted a lot of P2W games as well.
I don't know if this if east or west but maybe their games don't do well in the west i don't know i haven't played any of their other games.
You have a weird obsession with Webzen.. They're really not a bad company considering all they do is F2P games, there's so many worse ones out there.
I actually like how they handle the free to play. You are right there are some really bad ones on the market. Their games, may not be earth shattering awesome, yet are decent and you can realistically play them all for free.
Completely agree with you mate, the games aren't ex-subscription/B2P models but they're generally eastern games brought to the west and I'd trust Webzen to bring these kind of games out over any other publisher atm.
That's not 100% true. They did have some extremely pay to win games too. When they were hosting the original Archlord (which was a P2P that went F2P) it was pay to win in the most extreme sense. Cash shop potions and upgrades were making it so cash cows would own the server (be the archlord). Same with Archlord 2, and from what I understand ELOA was like that as well. While I do think that they have taken a lot of turns in the right way so that their games can be 100% free now, but they also like to get rid of a lot of games on a whim, didn't they also eat up Gpotato? Who hosted a lot of P2W games as well.
Fair point, wasn't aware of the game Archlord never played it. I don't think any F2P publishers have a game on the market that isn't P2W. Its sad but its true, they try to make money but do it in the wrong way which makes players jump ship. I personally think Weben have handled the majority of their games the best compared to others though, unless I'm missing one?
everyone knows this is a WoW Clone and if it wasn't. it wouldn't have been brought up. take The Division. nobody calls it a WoW clone but they do call it a Destiny Clone. Take something similar that works and repeat it. its been done thousands of times across all forms of entertainment. please don't get butt hurt.
Alright. Can we stop calling all new MMORPGs WoW-clones already?
I normally totally agree with you, but this game is totally a WoW clone
I think that can be a valid thing to say, because WoW is why there has been an MMORPG boom, and if done well the game could be as popular as WoW. If the Devs had more money it would have been more of a clone XD
I don't know about this new game Eloa but i would say they are probably just surviving off MU and age of Wulin.
You are more than welcome show this thread to people at Webzen and they can come and clear things up but from the review on glassdoor i doubt anyone cares actually that last bit isn't fair there is probably some who do care but have their hands tied or not in a position to do anything.
If the game went into open beta in 20013 like the wiki says then obviously that server must of had the level 60 content added by now and have been shown bit of the next content because 3 years would be a long wait with just 1 expansion i don't know if that information is right on the website.
btw it didn't take long to find that so don't think i am going out of my way it was only a few clicks away.
So forum posts trump publically available financial data? Players saying the games are dead has nothing to do with the company's profitability since it's clearly up 200% over last year. One person could be playing one of their games and spending 10 million a year and they would be profitable with only one person playing their games. Population is not necessarily related to profit here.
Please stop your crusade here because you have already stated your opinion, everyone else pretty much stated they don't agree, and you are only repeating yourself at this point. I would say it's pretty fair at this point to state that your opinion is factually wrong, but you're still entitled to it.
How in the HELL could you find this game "pretty" in ANY way? Everything from the banal art style to the abysmal graphics is ugly beyond belief. There is virtually no reason to play this kinda of imported shovelware.
How in the HELL could you find this game "pretty" in ANY way? Everything from the banal art style to the abysmal graphics is ugly beyond belief. There is virtually no reason to play this kinda of imported shovelware.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion mate, just because you don't find it nice graphically doesn't mean everyone else has the same opinion as you!
How in the HELL could you find this game "pretty" in ANY way? Everything from the banal art style to the abysmal graphics is ugly beyond belief. There is virtually no reason to play this kinda of imported shovelware.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion mate, just because you don't find it nice graphically doesn't mean everyone else has the same opinion as you!
Agreed. I love the art style and the animations. The Mobs are varied,interesting and wonderfully created.The spell affects are nice and not too flashy. Even the mounts are nice looking. Add in the great music from Aion composer Yang Bang-Ean and it creates a very warm environment to play in.
I very much disagree with the "WoW Clone" comparison. If anything, the game is a TERA clone minus the action combat that made TERA interesting. In other words, it's boring, and I'll pass.
This game is not about Webzen,it is about a lack of players.If this was a Blizzard product it would do fine,not great but ok.
All it needs is more players and you get at least a gaming experience,you have short distance quests,easy UI,some bosses you know the basics but in a neat tidy package and for pretty much free.
I feel it is easy to dismiss games just because they are not full of players of hyped by big marketing campaigns.Nobody is going to say this is a 8/10 it is barely a 6/10 but solid at what it does without making me feel like it's a job of chores.
I really don't need reviews or some website telling me what a game is doing or not doing,i have my own eyes,i can see and likely undertstand game design better than most websites.
If we are looking for FFXI part Deux or WOW 4.0 or Everquest 3.5 or Ultima Online 5.0 ,good luck,those wishes will likely never happen,instead you'll be getting Asta online games but asked to pay 40/50/60 to buy them with over the top cash shops,no thanks to that nonsense,i like no nonsense gaming,i am too old to be frustrated by poor UI and gimmicky cash shops that ruin games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Ask them about future content i am sure people would like to know that is where their money is going.
I have already explained the oringinal server of Asta that went into open beta must of had the level 60 content added since wiki said that server opened octocber of 2013 and obviously they must be working on the content after 60 or nearly finishing it to be released.
I can't believe I'm doing this, lol, but I just wanted to throw this out there; I've been playing this MMO now for about 2 weeks.
The game is described by many as the Asian World of Warcraft. And I must say that it is a CTRL+C/CTRL+V of Wow. But I find myself enjoying it for some reason.....it just feels more laid back, its new to me, but also very familiar. I love the character animations, the character models and the world.
I'm really enjoying it, and I actually canceled my BDO order to play this instead.
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C9 http://forum.webzen.com/forum/en/c9-english/c9-general-discussion/1559590-is-game-dead-or-alive
Flyff http://forum.webzen.com/forum/en/flyff-english/flyff-general-discussion/528820-old-player-here-gi
Rappelz http://forum.webzen.com/forum/en/rappelz-english/rappelz-general-discussion/1572215-state-of-the-game
I don't know about this new game Eloa but i would say they are probably just surviving off MU and age of Wulin.
You are more than welcome show this thread to people at Webzen and they can come and clear things up but from the review on glassdoor i doubt anyone cares actually that last bit isn't fair there is probably some who do care but have their hands tied or not in a position to do anything.
If the game went into open beta in 20013 like the wiki says then obviously that server must of had the level 60 content added by now and have been shown bit of the next content because 3 years would be a long wait with just 1 expansion i don't know if that information is right on the website.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASTA:_The_War_of_Tears_and_Winds
btw it didn't take long to find that so don't think i am going out of my way it was only a few clicks away.
so that is why it makes sense if the offices are in Dublin if they are using UTC times for office hours.
Just another click away this is UTC time. lol
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc
Pros+
+Easy to expand your inventory and bank space, doesn't use gold but another currency that they hand out pretty regular.
+Smooth controls, it feels great, no complaints.
+Graphics are a 50/50 for me, I like the character models/armor/weapons and some of the monsters but there are quite a few places where the textures on the ground or walls look very bad. Not a big deal for me.
+Dungeons have 3 difficulties, 1 player, 3 player, 5 player. No idea about raids. I like this, especially since it's so hard to find others to play with.
Cons-
-PVP is eventually forced when you get to a certain zone, it doesn't happen in all the zones from what I understand but it does eventually become a reality around 40. Cap is 50.
-Public quests reward only the top 2 contributors with tai tokens, which you really need to get gear with later on since no one is running dungeons often. I'm on the ora(red) side, we've got no population.
-Currently on the blue side there is a guild full of pvpers who go out of their way to ruin the red sides leveling pace, they have top end gear and numbers and are generally very disruptive.
-Gear has far too great an impact on damage/stats and the enchanting system doesn't help. Yeah it has one of those korean enchanting systems we all know and love.
-Pve is way too easy and gets repetitive quickly. Sometimes the mobs are too clustered or too spread out but it's an annoyance either way.
-Quest text is hard to make out, it's like a tidied up machine translation.
-Questing gets repetitive fast. Eventually you have to kill 17 of something and can potentially have 3 or 4 quests all to kill or collect an obscene amount of things in the same area. It's the pits.
-Class balance right now is a nightmare as mages can solo content not intended to be done solo.
Regardless of my woes with the game this is the longest I've played and farthest I've ever gotten in a pure f2p game. It was fun for a while but I think at the pace I'm playing now I'll be lucky to make it to 40. Still, I don't regret the time I played and think despite the apperance on the cover that everyone who likes tab-target combat should give it a go.
I think the Dublin office is the main office because they are using UTC time and the review on glassdoor would make sense why Asta has been rushed like come on the guides are still not complete and people will only just get a rubbish service then complain when they have spent 500 dollars some have already spent 200 dollars.
just trying to save people money sorry to sound like a moaning Minnie but i have seen this before. lol
https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Overview/Working-at-Webzen-EI_IE34762.11,17.htm?&countryRedirect=true
Ask them about future content even the stuff past 60 i would hope if a game allows someone to spend so much money that would obviously be going towards future content.
Just to lighten things up What's Happening she used to make me giggle.
http://forum.webzen.com/forum/en/asta-english/asta-announcements-and-discussion/1512413-we-are-recruiting-become-part-of-the-webzen-team
All for the dublin office incase you can't be bothered looking.
Just don't get mad at the author for stating what's clearly truth: Webzen even marketed this as a game to play while you wait for WoW, and the open beta is essentially launch, as progress isn't being wiped and money can be spend in the cash shop, no?
Anyway: like what you like, play what you want to play, and don't let anyone else's opinion on the matter ruin your good time. If I did that, I would have stopped playing Guild Wars 2 right after launch based on these forums. :chuffed:
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That is not fare to the developers.
Secondly there is a group of wow fans who have been begging for a game that gives that wow classic feel with a modern twist. Asta online is in my opinion that game. The game is in open beta first off.
This is not considered feature complete. Just a reminder.
I am currently 48 in the game and working to 50.
Graphics and presentation are very nice. There are some amazing looking creatures in this game you will meet.I saw a death's head scorpion and well kinda freaked out. Scary as hell.
I made an archer. I have generally always been a warrior player in most mmos and decided to do an archer for once. I found the archer play style breezy and fun. 2 separate talent trees. Crit and Evasion.
Crit = the Pve spec. Evasion is the Pvp/World pvp spec.
There is a macro system in this game but its not like Wow its actually very intutive but its not so automated to the point that you can play the game with 1 mouse. IT does require you to play the game. A good thing in my opinion.
There is Crafting 2 professions max. 4 sub professions you can learn all.
Crafting = Jewelcrafting,Carpentry,Tailoring,Alchemy,Blacksmithing
Harvesting is not a profession but basically a skill Everyone can use.. wether its Mining or herbs.
There is no first aid instead everyone gets bandaid skill that heals for 20% of you hp based on your hp. So it scales.
Stat allocation.. Yes something folks miss from the ole days of wow is back.
You can actually set the stats you want as you level.. plus you can.. also use a random generator system to allocate more points on top. There are items that give you free rolls.
And if you roll enough you can end up also costing gold to roll more.
There are also Permanent Buffs you can acquire based on Divine spirits. those Divine spirits are actually based on year signs. like.. The ox..= Bonus hp. They are also separated based on quality.
So white/green/blue/Yellow/Gold Gold = unique and rarest and most powerful.
This game has amazing stat depth and customization on how to tweak your character.
There also Enhances you can get for your weapons and gear. These can be aquired by dismantling gear. Enhance stones Make a massive power boost or defensive boost.
There is also a socketer npc that can allow you to add a gem that gives your weapon a special proc.
There is Pvp in this game. there is Class 1vs1, team 5vs5 currently bugged at the moment.
Battlegrounds 10vs 10. And Guild wars max level 50s in 40vs40 combat.
Plus yes there are zone late in the game that are world pvp based. But only those zones are accessible for it. And there are mean guards that can one shot a max level player if they try to intrude into a base. So no ganking lowbies is not as easy as one might expect.
Quick note there is a group public quest system that rewards the top 2 players with a token.
Those tokens if saved can unlock really power gear. So as your leveling its advised to do those public quests as much as possible as you level.
Finally this game is really fun for those who want an mmo that reminds you of wow but is far more challenging.. by the time you hit 50.. you will also unlock... over 13 Dungeons..and each has solo mode/3man/5man and then VERY HARD 5man. Those dungeons will challenge anyone. Especially the very hard modes.
really amazing game that is looking for players to help in giving feedback to refine it.
But as it is Asta online is pretty amazing.
quick note yes there is Raiding in this game too.
And yes its challenging as well.
I hope this review helps anyone with an open mind.
Thejedi Guild leader of Exhilaration on Asu Faction us1.
I normally totally agree with you, but this game is totally a WoW clone
I think that can be a valid thing to say, because WoW is why there has been an MMORPG boom, and if done well the game could be as popular as WoW. If the Devs had more money it would have been more of a clone XD
So forum posts trump publically available financial data? Players saying the games are dead has nothing to do with the company's profitability since it's clearly up 200% over last year. One person could be playing one of their games and spending 10 million a year and they would be profitable with only one person playing their games. Population is not necessarily related to profit here.
Please stop your crusade here because you have already stated your opinion, everyone else pretty much stated they don't agree, and you are only repeating yourself at this point. I would say it's pretty fair at this point to state that your opinion is factually wrong, but you're still entitled to it.
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All it needs is more players and you get at least a gaming experience,you have short distance quests,easy UI,some bosses you know the basics but in a neat tidy package and for pretty much free.
I feel it is easy to dismiss games just because they are not full of players of hyped by big marketing campaigns.Nobody is going to say this is a 8/10 it is barely a 6/10 but solid at what it does without making me feel like it's a job of chores. I really don't need reviews or some website telling me what a game is doing or not doing,i have my own eyes,i can see and likely undertstand game design better than most websites.
If we are looking for FFXI part Deux or WOW 4.0 or Everquest 3.5 or Ultima Online 5.0 ,good luck,those wishes will likely never happen,instead you'll be getting Asta online games but asked to pay 40/50/60 to buy them with over the top cash shops,no thanks to that nonsense,i like no nonsense gaming,i am too old to be frustrated by poor UI and gimmicky cash shops that ruin games.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I have already explained the oringinal server of Asta that went into open beta must of had the level 60 content added since wiki said that server opened octocber of 2013 and obviously they must be working on the content after 60 or nearly finishing it to be released.
The game is described by many as the Asian World of Warcraft. And I must say that it is a CTRL+C/CTRL+V of Wow. But I find myself enjoying it for some reason.....it just feels more laid back, its new to me, but also very familiar. I love the character animations, the character models and the world.
I'm really enjoying it, and I actually canceled my BDO order to play this instead.