I don't have a roller coaster in my house. I think that could be really fun, I just don't see how that will be applicable to what I can do at home in my recliner.
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Count me among those not interested. I don't need VR to be immersed. A good book can immerse people, a good game can immerse people, a good movie cam immerse people, the technology is irrelevant, it's about the content. And the VR content, is abysmal so far.
I was in THOSE lines at EB when Wow was released,tons of kids buying Wow,it did not tempt me one bit because i don't buy things because everyone else is,i buy them because i feel the need or desire.
There have been tons of fads over the years,most don't take long before people realize what a mistake they made.Technology is a gimmick that attracts a lot of people,i was a huge techie even when i was only 10 years old so it has always attracted my interest.However that doesn't mean i buy everything that comes out,i still don't own a cell phone,couldn't care less about FB or twitter or 4k gaming.
I look at ideas realistically,what do i need to enjoy myself,do i need thousands of dollars in tech or just really good ideas.Geesh i remember when Rubik's Cube was a popular fad,i doubt anyone has touched one in over 10-15 years. Once VR becomes ever popular the way PC's and DSL became popular ,i see the next trend and that is peripherals++.One thing people like to do is accessorize ,so i see some funky gimmicks coming out over the next 10 years to add on to the VR sets.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
i will be waiting until next year before looking at it , just to see what the uptake is among developers also the price is going to be a stickinh point for a lot of people on whichever version they go for
About Oculus Rift selling out. Usually they also include how many units were sold out if it's ligit. Over wise they could be doing what Apple does sometimes and only ship few units to stores. This creates the illusion they are selling more then they actually are and can be used to make the hype train go faster.
but again
exactly what evidence is one looking for when they say 'people are not running out and buying these things'
when 5...not 1....5 of them have solld out. Dk1, GearVR innovative, gearvr consumer, CV1 pre-order and Sony
when one makes a statement like 'people are not running out and buying these things' one would assume there is some datapoint in the universe to kinda sorta maybe suggest that this statement istrue
the future success of VR is clearly open for debate and i have no issue with such conversatsions but there is no evidence that I am aware of to suggest at this time that people are 'not running out and buying these things'
All I'm saying is I know something if the report was 50,000 units were sold out at Amazon. For all I know each store you listed could have gotten 5 units to sell. Also none of the people I know who are into computers and spend lots of money on them have run out to buy one, yet.
and 'all' I am saying is that when someone says
'nobody is running out and buying these right now'
its good to have at LEAST one data point to suggest it might be true rather than datapoints that suggest the exact opposite. I am suggesting 5 sells out in a row suggest that the statement in bold is likely not true.
I understand your point and its plasable but its not enough to then suggest that the statement in bold is therefor true.
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The tech is fairly new, and most people who would be interested probably can't afford it yet. $400+ is a lot of money for some people, and that's just for the headset hardware. Add another $400 for a GPU capable of running it decently, etc. and it adds up fast.
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The tech is fairly new, and most people who would be interested probably can't afford it yet. $400+ is a lot of money for some people, and that's just for the headset hardware. Add another $400 for a GPU capable of running it decently, etc. and it adds up fast.
on your second point.
The specs to run Oculus are about the same as the specs to run The Division. So buying a GPU that can power The Division makes sense but not an Oculus?
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There are so many good games that I haven't played yet that if I get to VR, it will be 5+ years from now. Why do I need to spend $600+ for VR when I already have a pile of award-winning games waiting to be played?
I'M so sick of hearing about VR. I can see why people like it but for me i don't need this to enjoy games. And i don't need to feel like I'M in the game either.
The tech is fairly new, and most people who would be interested probably can't afford it yet. $400+ is a lot of money for some people, and that's just for the headset hardware. Add another $400 for a GPU capable of running it decently, etc. and it adds up fast.
on your second point.
The specs to run Oculus are about the same as the specs to run The Division. So buying a GPU that can power The Division makes sense but not an Oculus?
Hmm, I didn't realize the specs for Rift are a GTX560 2GB or a Radeon HD 7770 2GB coupled with an i5-2400 or FX-6100 and 6GB RAM.
I could have sworn it requires: Video Card NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD R9 290 equivalent or greater CPU Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater Memory 8GB+ RAM Video Output Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output USB Ports 3x USB 3.0 ports plus 1x USB 2.0 port
everyone and there mothers brothers sister on this board has been complaining about the video card requirement for Oculus but not for The Division which is
GTX 970 for The Division (and to be clear The Division is ONE GAME) and GTX 980 for the Oculus.
if you buy an Oculus right now the soonest you can get it is in July. You know prices for video cards drop pretty fast right?
seriously?
added: lets do this. lets take the cost of a machine that can run The Divison well (not min. requirements, suggested). After all The Division is the ONE games that is supposed to be the super hype that everyone wants and is redefining an entire genre. Lets take the cost of said machine and subtract that from the cost of the requirements for an Oculus in July.
I bet the difference will be a few hundern
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Except you're discounting the primary reasons people actually buy phones - communication - texting, calls, messaging, and pictures. Those are a huge reason to buy the phone in the first place.
I am discounting these attributes because they are cheap. I have a smartphone, a Windows phone to be exact. It does everything I need it to do and it was hundreds cheaper than the iPhone the salesman was trying to shove down my throat. My wife, OTOH, did not want a smart phone. So I got her a texting phone with a physical keyboard that she loves, and a 9.7" Android tablet. Her phone was $59.99 with a $30 MIR, so in the end it cost her $30. Her tablet was on sale for $99.
So $30 is the price I put on the comm functions of a phone. Anything beyond that $30 is for the device's entertainment value.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
An exclusive Gamer Network survey reveals that only 15% of players intend to purchase any of the VR platforms this year
Attend any game conference this
year, and the words virtual reality are likely to be heard ad nauseum.
Industry buzz around the technology is reaching an all-time high but
even with three VR headsets (Oculus, Vive and PlayStation VR) hitting
the market this year, it's unclear just what kind of installed base
developers making games for the platforms will be able to target. The
need for expensive PC gaming rigs (in the case of two out of three
headsets) and prohibitive price tags of $600 and $800 for the Oculus
Rift and Vive, respectively, point to the market remaining niche in
2016.
This is backed up by a new survey of nearly 14,000 gamers across Gamer Network websites.
Out of close to 13,000 respondents who answered, only 15 percent
actually said they intend to purchase a VR headset this year, with 60
percent flat-out saying they would not consider a purchase. Another 25
percent were unsure. Interestingly, 75 percent of respondents said that
they currently own a gaming PC, so it's clearly a PC oriented crowd, the
very kind that you would think would be most receptive to a VR headset
purchase.
Price is likely to be a big factor, ranked most
important by almost 32 percent of gamers. Of the VR headsets launching
in 2016, PlayStation VR was the most cited (around 20 percent) to be
purchased (and 35 percent already own a PS4). While Sony has yet to
announce a final launch date and price, it's believed that PlayStation
will offer the most affordable package.
Oculus Rift meanwhile, which certainly has had more momentum from the
very start among developers, was lagging both Vive and PlayStation VR
with only 13.74 percent of purchase interest from those surveyed,
although Vive was only slightly ahead of Oculus with 15.5 percent.
Apart
from VR purchase intent, gamers were asked which platforms they plan to
buy in the future. Despite literally no information being available for
Nintendo's next console being available, the NX actually led the pack
with nearly 31 percent of respondents choosing it; that's certainly
encouraging news for Nintendo which has seen its bottom line hit hard
thanks to the failure of the Wii U and declining 3DS sales. Buying a new
gaming PC was a close second around 30 percent, and in the world of
current-gen consoles Sony's PS4 easily outpaced the Xbox One, 20 percent
vs. 9 percent.
Google vr and samsung galaxy s7 will be the premier platform for vr, have fun playing mobile br games everyone wearing a stupid headset playing vr candy crush.
Just me , or there a certain poster who seems like they "need" everyone else to like it , can't stand the idea others not wanting it , and posts constantly in every single VR thread trying to convince everyone they they will like it , that it's a problem not want to wear a mask on your face to play a game and so on ?
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
Just me , or there a certain poster who seems like they "need" everyone else to like it , can't stand the idea others not wanting it , and posts constantly in every single VR thread trying to convince everyone they they will like it , that it's a problem not want to wear a mask on your face to play a game and so on ?
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
At this point I'm thinking paid shill. But yeah. It gets annoying when VR gets randomly inserted into totally unrelated topics. Whoever is paying him should stop, he's doing more harm than good....
I was moderately interested in VR a few months ago. Now I'm pretty well thoroughly disgusted and I haven't even seen one yet.
I am not interested in VR,great gaming companies like from soft will not be interested in this. great games and a good monitor is all i need,the future that these fools are really making this for is going to be so short its a joke!
everyone and there mothers brothers sister on this board has been complaining about the video card requirement for Oculus but not for The Division which is
GTX 970 for The Division (and to be clear The Division is ONE GAME) and GTX 980 for the Oculus.
if you buy an Oculus right now the soonest you can get it is in July. You know prices for video cards drop pretty fast right?
seriously?
added: lets do this. lets take the cost of a machine that can run The Divison well (not min. requirements, suggested). After all The Division is the ONE games that is supposed to be the super hype that everyone wants and is redefining an entire genre. Lets take the cost of said machine and subtract that from the cost of the requirements for an Oculus in July.
I bet the difference will be a few hundern
You just keep diverting right and left. Just so you know I listed the requirements for the division and OR.
The video reqs for The Division isn't a 970. It is a GTX560 or a Radeon 7770 2GB. The minimum reqs for the Rift are a GTX970/R9 290 and an i5 4590 for the OR, not to mention the memory and USB reqs. I think you would know that by now having owned 3 sold out generations of the device.
As to your price cost diversion and fantastic speculation, I have no comment. It's not worth my time arguing speculative circular logic with you. I was just pointing out that you were way way off base in comparing the requirements for the Division and Oculus Rift.
go look up the SUGGESTED requirement for The Division and start this entire post over again
and do you seriously think the min. requirements of a hyper hype game for this time next year will be the same or greater?
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Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Just me , or there a certain poster who seems like they "need" everyone else to like it , can't stand the idea others not wanting it , and posts constantly in every single VR thread trying to convince everyone they they will like it , that it's a problem not want to wear a mask on your face to play a game and so on ?
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
yeah its a problem however what I am relgious about is NOT having other people like it but having other people understand that it is a big deal and that it will be wide spread and that its not a gimmick.
I dont like sports but I know its big, I know its wide spread and I know its not a gimmick.
You dont need to like everything that is widely popular in order for daddy to approve
and
'nobody is running out at buying these things right now' yeah that one really fired me up.
now if you excuse me I have my oculus paid shill check to pick up today because you know....they need my kind of marketing
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Just me , or there a certain poster who seems like they "need" everyone else to like it , can't stand the idea others not wanting it , and posts constantly in every single VR thread trying to convince everyone they they will like it , that it's a problem not want to wear a mask on your face to play a game and so on ?
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
In most cases you need only follow the money. I would be willing to bet that certain posters have a lot of money tied up in these devices and pray they don't fail. Either that or they have a lot of stock tied up in the companies that makes these devices and need to convince us that they are what we need for those stock prices to rise.
Just me , or there a certain poster who seems like they "need" everyone else to like it , can't stand the idea others not wanting it , and posts constantly in every single VR thread trying to convince everyone they they will like it , that it's a problem not want to wear a mask on your face to play a game and so on ?
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
In most cases you need only follow the money. I would be willing to bet that certain posters have a lot of money tied up in these devices and pray they don't fail. Either that or they have a lot of stock tied up in the companies that makes these devices and need to convince us that they are what we need for those stock prices to rise.
its like sports.
I know sports are popular, I know sports are widespread and I know sports are not a gimmick. I just cant get into it and I dont make lame excuses like 'I dont understand why people want to play with a ball' or 'the requirements for the device are the same as the suggested requirements for The DIvision and that is insane!'
I dont mind people not liking something they havent tried, i just jump like a cat on some of these purely asine reasoning as to why they think its failing or about to fail.
something dosent have to 'fail' in order to validate ones disinterest in something
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There have been tons of fads over the years,most don't take long before people realize what a mistake they made.Technology is a gimmick that attracts a lot of people,i was a huge techie even when i was only 10 years old so it has always attracted my interest.However that doesn't mean i buy everything that comes out,i still don't own a cell phone,couldn't care less about FB or twitter or 4k gaming.
I look at ideas realistically,what do i need to enjoy myself,do i need thousands of dollars in tech or just really good ideas.Geesh i remember when Rubik's Cube was a popular fad,i doubt anyone has touched one in over 10-15 years.
Once VR becomes ever popular the way PC's and DSL became popular ,i see the next trend and that is peripherals++.One thing people like to do is accessorize ,so i see some funky gimmicks coming out over the next 10 years to add on to the VR sets.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
'nobody is running out and buying these right now'
its good to have at LEAST one data point to suggest it might be true rather than datapoints that suggest the exact opposite. I am suggesting 5 sells out in a row suggest that the statement in bold is likely not true.
I understand your point and its plasable but its not enough to then suggest that the statement in bold is therefor true.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
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The specs to run Oculus are about the same as the specs to run The Division. So buying a GPU that can power The Division makes sense but not an Oculus?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
GTX 970 for The Division (and to be clear The Division is ONE GAME) and GTX 980 for the Oculus.
if you buy an Oculus right now the soonest you can get it is in July. You know prices for video cards drop pretty fast right?
seriously?
added: lets do this. lets take the cost of a machine that can run The Divison well (not min. requirements, suggested). After all The Division is the ONE games that is supposed to be the super hype that everyone wants and is redefining an entire genre.
Lets take the cost of said machine and subtract that from the cost of the requirements for an Oculus in July.
I bet the difference will be a few hundern
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
So $30 is the price I put on the comm functions of a phone. Anything beyond that $30 is for the device's entertainment value.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
Almost religious dedication to a device......................
I was moderately interested in VR a few months ago. Now I'm pretty well thoroughly disgusted and I haven't even seen one yet.
great games and a good monitor is all i need,the future that these fools are really making this for is going to be so short its a joke!
and do you seriously think the min. requirements of a hyper hype game for this time next year will be the same or greater?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
yeah its a problem however what I am relgious about is NOT having other people like it but having other people understand that it is a big deal and that it will be wide spread and that its not a gimmick.
I dont like sports but I know its big, I know its wide spread and I know its not a gimmick.
You dont need to like everything that is widely popular in order for daddy to approve
and
'nobody is running out at buying these things right now' yeah that one really fired me up.
now if you excuse me I have my oculus paid shill check to pick up today because you know....they need my kind of marketing
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
I know sports are popular, I know sports are widespread and I know sports are not a gimmick. I just cant get into it and I dont make lame excuses like 'I dont understand why people want to play with a ball' or 'the requirements for the device are the same as the suggested requirements for The DIvision and that is insane!'
I dont mind people not liking something they havent tried, i just jump like a cat on some of these purely asine reasoning as to why they think its failing or about to fail.
something dosent have to 'fail' in order to validate ones disinterest in something
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me