here is a direct download of the shadowbane trial. this was posted by tigris67. Shadowbane Trial zip
i started seeding this torrent 20 hours ago and it is going really well now. we have 11 seeders and 20 some odd people downloading right now. so should go much faster than when i started it. Shadowbane Oblivion Dvd Nero Image Torrent
Originally posted by MrBoots Not really worth it even if it's free. I have tried playing this game several times in the past.
The graphics are awful, and the client performs like a mule with 1 leg trying to pull a sherman tank. The PVP is another example of the standard ASS (Auto-attack Special Sequencing) combat system present in almost every MMORPG in existance. Shadowbane's ASS combat is not as polished as most games though. Then again why would any pvper want to play a "PVP" game where a dice roll is deciding the outcome of every action? Shadowbane's combat system needs to be scrapped. City sieging is one of the worst experiences you will have. Your frame rate will drop to below 1fps. You might go from full health to dead in 2 frames.
Other points: - The world is small. - The world is ugly, and randomly generated. - There is no story or lore to be found inside the game. - Terrain does not mean anything. You can walk over the steepest mountain as if it didn't exist. - No dungeons. - Monsters can only be found in sqare zones randomly placed on the map. (This contributes to the second point in this list) - The world is not persistant. Last time I played they were wiping the servers regularly. - Cheats and hacks are rampant in SB. - Someone offered to dupe me some gold last time I played within an hour of logging in. - The map quickly fills up with 1 man cities leaving no room for real cities to be built.
I have to agree with you. This game doesn't appeal to me on so many personal levels.
But I'm hoping that this will take care of all those people complaining about wanting open PvP all the time. Here you go guys. You're dream game, and it's free.
Something tells me they'll be back complaining again though. I think they really don't want what they beg for.
Not really worth it even if it's free. I have tried playing this game several times in the past. The graphics are awful, and the client performs like a mule with 1 leg trying to pull a sherman tank. Playing it in the past could mean alot of things. Exactly how far in the past did you play? Exactly what constitutes trying it? Ten minutes? Level 30? Maxed character? This is a pretty misleading statement you've made. Yes the graphics aren't what people tend to consider pretty. Some happen to like them because they are gritty. The PVP is another example of the standard ASS (Auto-attack Special Sequencing) combat system present in almost every MMORPG in existance. Shadowbane's ASS combat is not as polished as most games though. Then again why would any pvper want to play a "PVP" game where a dice roll is deciding the outcome of every action? Shadowbane's combat system needs to be scrapped. City sieging is one of the worst experiences you will have. Your frame rate will drop to below 1fps. You might go from full health to dead in 2 frames. You really didn't play much did you? There are counters to counters to counters and how you build your character means a world of difference and then once you have your build, what abilities you train make all the difference in what sequence of abilities you use. There is not auto-attack, sit back and let the character do the work for you. You need to be able to think on your feet. As for seiges, they are incredibly fun and the thing that the majority of players love most. For those that have framerate issues, it's usually as simple as dropping down things like dynamic shadows and detail and you easily can have 100 people on your screen at once all fighting together. Battles are epic there vs rinse and repeat.
Other points: - The world is small. Which world? There are a couple different mapsets and people tend to complain that one is too big (the one on mourning). - The world is ugly, and randomly generated.[/quote] Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Randomly generated? No. Everything has its place. - There is no story or lore to be found inside the game. There is some however it's not nearly as much as what we had all wanted from the start. It's the one sore point we've always wanted to have in the game.
- Terrain does not mean anything. You can walk over the steepest mountain as if it didn't exist. That's what seemless zones do for you. *shrug*
- No dungeons. Dungeons were tested out in beta. People didn't like them. Many people are happy we don't have dungeons and that PvP can occur out in the open vs in an instance. - Monsters can only be found in sqare zones randomly placed on the map. (This contributes to the second point in this list) Nope, still not random. Generated randomly to spawn there to a degree sure. But definetly not random. - The world is not persistant. Last time I played they were wiping the servers regularly. Um... no, the worlds are not wiped regularly. The only one that gets a wipe on occassion is the Test server. The rest are persistant and the changing face of the world occurs at the hands of the players.
- Cheats and hacks are rampant in SB. Not really. The ones that the team finds are eradicated and continue to be hunted down each time they are found. Even the most stalwart dupers of the past will tell you that there really aren't any easy ways to do it anymore and the team keeps a vigilant eye on any new ones that pop up. - Someone offered to dupe me some gold last time I played within an hour of logging in. Yeah because we all know SB players are generous to dupe gold for people for the heck of it. You sure they weren't setting you up for a gank? Either way, it seems a bit odd that someone would offer unless you were asking? - The map quickly fills up with 1 man cities leaving no room for real cities to be built. And that's where seiges come in handy. Buy a bane circle, put it down and knock it down/take it. TahDah! No more one man/woman city. Thus the beauty of the system. Seriously. It just doesn't sound like you have any real long term experience with the game and the only thing I can think of as far as the server wipe was when Corruption was up (I believe) and it had the Dalgoth map. It was wiped every three months or at least intended to be because players had asked for a server like that. It also had very advanced experience rates.
Originally posted by MrBoots Not really worth it even if it's free. I have tried playing this game several times in the past.
The graphics are awful, and the client performs like a mule with 1 leg trying to pull a sherman tank. The PVP is another example of the standard ASS (Auto-attack Special Sequencing) combat system present in almost every MMORPG in existance. Shadowbane's ASS combat is not as polished as most games though. Then again why would any pvper want to play a "PVP" game where a dice roll is deciding the outcome of every action? Shadowbane's combat system needs to be scrapped. City sieging is one of the worst experiences you will have. Your frame rate will drop to below 1fps. You might go from full health to dead in 2 frames.
Other points: - The world is small. - The world is ugly, and randomly generated. - There is no story or lore to be found inside the game. - Terrain does not mean anything. You can walk over the steepest mountain as if it didn't exist. - No dungeons. - Monsters can only be found in sqare zones randomly placed on the map. (This contributes to the second point in this list) - The world is not persistant. Last time I played they were wiping the servers regularly. - Cheats and hacks are rampant in SB. - Someone offered to dupe me some gold last time I played within an hour of logging in. - The map quickly fills up with 1 man cities leaving no room for real cities to be built.
Go away. That is all. Go pee on someone elses parade. Party pooper.
all you guys do is whine whine whine, we already know SB is dated graphics wise and has its problems, due to being a sandbox style mmorpg, its the players fault for many problems during gameplay, not the game itself.
World small? lol shows how much you know, its quite a trek to run around.
Originally posted by AshenTemper Originally posted by Blurr I have no respect for Ashen Temper (considering he got his job by threatening to sue a 14 year old kid), or this game.
Do you have me confused with someone else? I mean, I don't mind if peope dislike or hate me, I don't tend to sugar-coat my replies when someone is doing something they should not... but at least hate me for something real. I have never threated to sue anyone, much less a 14 year old kid. So please, tell me this story...
I really am wondering. Would love to hear the story behind this...
Lol, Blurr. If you are really coming back to try SB, I hope you keep "Blurr" as a toon name, because I'm sure the SB players who see your post will make sure that toon will never get past lvl 25. Have fun in game.
I'm sorry, is that supposed to frighten me or something? Is it supposed to make the SB community look better? What are you trying to accomplish there other than an attempt to threaten me with bully tactics? I don't quite understand because it seems to me you're trying to say that people will try to ruin my game experience because I don't like the game or the people who run it? That seems a little counterproductive doesn't it? I suppose if I did create a 'Blurr' character, I'd really get to see the true nature of the SB community wouldn't I?
Ashen, as far as the 'story' the short version is this: Back when you took over sbvault (Shadowbane Vault), the original owner of the site (who I believe was 14 at the time) told me that he had to give it up because you threatened him/his mother with legal action. He could have been lying (perhaps I should have added 'allegedly' infront of my earlier comment), but I don't see any reason why he would need to, and from what I saw of the situation, I believe him.
As far as the game itself goes, I did try it earlier today (I believe in giving a fair chance to the game). I don't like the new character generation interface compared to the older one. I found the server selection a little vague, though I thought the maps looked nice. Graphics wise I'd have to say I still feel it is below the expectation even for a game released when shadowbane was. I did have some lag/glitches and within my first 20 minutes I had an sb.exe crash. I find the interface is a little clunky and I'm hoping there's some way to make it fade transparent as it seems to take up a large amount of the screen (playing on 1024x ) I'm not trying to bash the game I'm just trying to give my opinion.
I do like the fact that there are so many customization options with all the classes and disciplines, even if I don't understand a few of the restrictions (like why can't Nephilim be Necromancers?). I look forward to participating in a siege at some point. The spell effects (those that I've seen) seem alright.
I think I need to play the game more to get a better feel of it, but I think what my verdict so far is that it's a good game for you if you enjoy the community and the rules set. If you're looking for graphics or story immersion, I would probably say the game isn't for you (as far as I've seen yet).
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Playing it in the past could mean alot of things. Exactly how far in the past did you play? Exactly what constitutes trying it? Ten minutes? Level 30? Maxed character? This is a pretty misleading statement you've made. Yes the graphics aren't what people tend to consider pretty. Some happen to like them because they are gritty.
Phase 2 of beta - Early Final Reactivated several times over the last few years. I have made countless max level characters.
You really didn't play much did you? There are counters to counters to counters and how you build your character means a world of difference and then once you have your build, what abilities you train make all the difference in what sequence of abilities you use. There is not auto-attack, sit back and let the character do the work for you. You need to be able to think on your feet. As for seiges, they are incredibly fun and the thing that the majority of players love most. For those that have framerate issues, it's usually as simple as dropping down things like dynamic shadows and detail and you easily can have 100 people on your screen at once all fighting together. Battles are epic there vs rinse and repeat.
Do you not understand what ASS is? You press the autoattack button. and then dial in a combination of special attacks or spells. Maybe 10% is player skill. The rest is equipment, level, and luck.
Which world? There are a couple different mapsets and people tend to complain that one is too big (the one on mourning).
All of them.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Randomly generated? No. Everything has its place.
Maybe if you are blind in two eyes, and partially retarded.
There is some however it's not nearly as much as what we had all wanted from the start. It's the one sore point we've always wanted to have in the game.
No comment.
That's what seemless zones do for you. *shrug*
No, that's what cutting corners does for you.
Dungeons were tested out in beta. People didn't like them. Many people are happy we don't have dungeons and that PvP can occur out in the open vs in an instance.
I don't remember dungeons unless they were in phase 1.
Nope, still not random. Generated randomly to spawn there to a degree sure. But definetly not random.
They are still square blocks, and look like crap.
Um... no, the worlds are not wiped regularly. The only one that gets a wipe on occassion is the Test server. The rest are persistant and the changing face of the world occurs at the hands of the players.
I remember several "resets" to "make things more interesting".
Not really. The ones that the team finds are eradicated and continue to be hunted down each time they are found. Even the most stalwart dupers of the past will tell you that there really aren't any easy ways to do it anymore and the team keeps a vigilant eye on any new ones that pop up.
They should never have been there to begin with.
Yeah because we all know SB players are generous to dupe gold for people for the heck of it. You sure they weren't setting you up for a gank? Either way, it seems a bit odd that someone would offer unless you were asking?
It was a friend of a friend type of thing.
And that's where seiges come in handy. Buy a bane circle, put it down and knock it down/take it. TahDah! No more one man/woman city. Thus the beauty of the system.
If I remember correctly you need to own a city to siege a city. Maybe that has changed?
Seriously. It just doesn't sound like you have any real long term experience with the game and the only thing I can think of as far as the server wipe was when Corruption was up (I believe) and it had the Dalgoth map. It was wiped every three months or at least intended to be because players had asked for a server like that. It also had very advanced experience rates.
I have plenty of experience. It doesn't take more than 10 minutes play time to realize SB is a low quality game. I really wish it had never been released. Due to SB's failure, PVP games are probably seen as a poor investment.
Ahhh, okay. That makes things a little more clear. Actually, the issue he had was nothing to do with me. SBVault was an affiliate of the Vault Network. I worked on SBVault and was offered the position to lead up the site after being on it for a few months. Personally, it didn't matter to me either way, I was working for free and had been working as a site manager on XRGaming prior to this (when I played UO). I just happen to like to collect information on games I play and publish news and interesting details about them I come across (which lead to my current job).
But, I point out the fact that SBVault was owned by the Vault Network for a reason. I wouldn't have to threaten to former site manager because the site belonged to IGN (the url was sbvault.ign.com). Furthermore, I don't make a habit (as in never have) of threatening people to sue them. I am not a lawyer nor practice armchair legalese. Outside of ICQ or IRC, I never talked to him and actually did not know (until you just posted this) that he was that young and that he lived with his mother.
Anyhow, sorry about your friend but perhaps he was just taking the aggression out on me because I was offered the job. If I wanted to lead a site, I would of just made my own.
I went back yesterday to check this out. Havent played since we (CoS Nation) defended our capital against the server wide zerg (zerg lost btw, beta nations ftw ).
A few points, one I'd like to mention to any SB reps that may be reading. You really do need some other method for returning vet accounts as far as logging back in. My old server Treachery was shut down long ago and I had quit the game before then. My only option yesterday was to migrate my characters to Mourning and one other server. The problem is....how am I supposed to have any clue, which open trees would be a wise/safe spot to log in on a server I never played? (Mourning was the unofficial carebear server when I played the game, don't know its nations). This wouldnt really be much of a problem except after so long it took me 5 minutes just to find my stealth ability again and then figure out how to move lol. No chance I was going to be defending myself if needed.
I'm not sure if gold even migrates with a character but if so I still have a few more rank 6's I would need to migrate but I'd really hate to just "donate" a few million to some dorks because I had no clue which open tree to use and for some reason I hadn't banked the cash back in the day. At this point I've just moved my thief over and am sitting in Khar...after an hour run from some randomly chosen open city.
Another problem I noticed was that I was/am getting some extreme amounts of rubber banding lag. I never had near the amount of lag issues back when I played and that was with an average of 1000 or so online. Yesterday Mourning had fewer than 200 and I was bouncing all over the place. Rubber banding in sieges understandable, but when I'm lagging like that solo running through the desert the idea of taking part in some good old group on group pvp concerns me.
Other than that though no real problems. Took a bit to redownload a custom gui (which imo is a must for any shadowbane player, no offence) The population at this point though will probably keep me from actually playing the game right now. Hopefully SB going free will bring Mourning back to life. I've heard this Vind server may infact have more active players but the idea of rolling up a new guy on a NON-arac server holds little interest for me. I canceled my account long ago not because of the bugs and cheats but because when our server hit 600 or so online average it became more like a game of Quake against the exact same people everyday, every night. The game needs a decent population to thrive and be fun otherwise it becomes a bit stagnant fighting the exact same guilds/players everyday.
Actually he wasn't really a friend of mine, I knew him about as well as you did, and only from what he told me in emails and chat. It's quite possible he could have been lying, but I think it more likely that he did get word mentioning legal action from somewhere. Perhaps it was the vault network people that did so, and maybe they mentioned your name so he thought you were responsible. What I do know is I was not a fan of the way you handled things during that time (which of course, is my perogative and nothing to say that you did anything wrong), which lead me to believe him and my subsequent version of how things happened. Either way I know it's old history so I don't feel the need to argue it one way or the other. While I may not be able to respect you, I don't think my opinion really matters on whether you're a bad person or not, heh.
I do actually have a question that perhaps you could answer me about the SB community. How would you describe the community of players in regards to the game and pvp? Would you say that they're largely hardcore pvp'ers? (I imagine they probably have to be) Do you find them to be somewhat elitist regarding outsiders and newbies? How is the community regarding random PKing and griefing? I guess that's a bunch of questions. I know I would find the answers helpful and hopefully they would give new players an idea of what to expect when coming into the game, so they have a better idea if the game is right for them or not.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Originally posted by MrBoots Do you not understand what ASS is? You press the autoattack button. and then dial in a combination of special attacks or spells. Maybe 10% is player skill. The rest is equipment, level, and luck.
I don't remember dungeons unless they were in phase 1.
I have plenty of experience. It doesn't take more than 10 minutes play time to realize SB is a low quality game.
Except in SB equipment means very very little and no pvp isn't only 10% player skill. So I don't agree with you and I understood perfectly well what you meant.
Yes, dungeons were in beta for a brief time. Don't ask me to remember what phase.
Yes, you need to be a part of a city to siege. You don't have to own one though. You could create a guild and sub to one then siege. It's part of the politcal end of the game that many people enjoy.
It definetly takes more than 10 minutes in ANY game to get the full scope of play. I tend to like to give things time and try to experience all the aspects that I can before deciding if I like it or not and even if I don't like something I'm more than aware that others may just like it so anything I say I tend to keep neutral and stress that they are my own opinions. For those that enjoy Shadowbane's style of PvP and sieging it's paradise, for others it's the 9th circle of hell. I know not everyone likes to spend more than a certain amount of time getting to know if they like a game or not. Time is always a factor and people tend to like the look of 'first blush' impressions. I can't say I blame them with so many games to try.
Those that wish to give SB an honest try are always welcome and it's an understood that it's not the game for everyone.
Originally posted by Blurr I do actually have a question that perhaps you could answer me about the SB community. How would you describe the community of players in regards to the game and pvp? Would you say that they're largely hardcore pvp'ers? (I imagine they probably have to be) Do you find them to be somewhat elitist regarding outsiders and newbies? How is the community regarding random PKing and griefing? I guess that's a bunch of questions. I know I would find the answers helpful and hopefully they would give new players an idea of what to expect when coming into the game, so they have a better idea if the game is right for them or not.
Oh, I more than realize there are people out there who don't like me. And I can respect that... there are people in the world I don't like It was just your reason for not liking me caught me off-guard since I had no idea what you were talking about.
Anywho, as to your question. The Shadowbane Community really isn't any different than any other MMO community. I'm a huge MMO player... in addition to Shadowbane (and yes, I do play it), I also play World or Warcraft, Everquest 2 (use to play the original), Lineage II, City of Heroes, and Dark and Light (beta). I've also played Dark Ages of Camelot (and reactivate it every few months), checked out Ferentus, Horizons, Ultima Online, and probably a few more I am forgetting now. They all have their hard cases but they also have their very helpful individuals.
The difference in the Shadowbane Community, though, is it is a full PvP game and many of the "board warrioring" matches evolve into in-game wars. Talk too much smack to someone and that person and their entire guild (if not nation) may be dropping a Bane Stone (what we use to initiate sieges) on their city.
So yes, there are some mouthy people in the game. There are some who have the elitist complex (and some who do and don't deserve to have that attitude). There are also some great guilds there who are there just for the fun of it. Others who are there for the lore. Some who are there just to help out. It's made up of a myriad of personalities.
Is it any more hostile and immature than other MMO communities? No. But they are quite defensive about their game (which is humorous because, to them, it's okay for them to bad mouth it... just not others).
Originally posted by Hashman Can either yourself or Ashen confirm or deny Shadowbane 2?
I'm going to be lame and just copy'n'paste what I wrote on my website:
As we all know, there is a rumor about Shadowbane 2 and, as I have already stated, I cannot really confirm or deny this rumor. If we were doing it, I have already learned my lesson not to shoot myself in the foot and announce such a project too early. Shadowbane had a huge following YEARS before it was released and it caused a lot of angst in the pre-beta community. I personally would not want to go through that again. If we were not doing Shadowbane 2, I wouldnt want to say it because it doesnt mean we wont, just means we are not at the moment. Either way, as a person who deals in community, Id rather wait till Im given the official okay to state things either way. So, for those of you who keep asking me off the record there is your reply
And HoldMe, I do my best to read all feedback regarding Shadowbane. MMOs are evolving creatures that are never perfect when shipped (or else there would be no need for patchers). Getting information and seeing things from the player's perspective is vital in making the correct changes and in addressing what should be addressed first.
Woot Another free game, i gotta try this one! it sounds like a game i would enjoy forever and ever since you cna rule castles and so on anywho i'm gonna snatch it, Cheers to the shadowbane Dev ppl
Comments
I'm on Mourning, at the Merc camp. Name is Osyruss
The Millenium Lee
here is a direct download of the shadowbane trial. this was posted by tigris67.
Shadowbane Trial zip
i started seeding this torrent 20 hours ago and it is going really well now. we have 11 seeders and 20 some odd people downloading right now. so should go much faster than when i started it.
Shadowbane Oblivion Dvd Nero Image Torrent
Head Joint SoundCloud Page
https://soundcloud.com/headjointambient1
Is shadowbane all that good? it dosnt look all that interesting to me..
I have to agree with you. This game doesn't appeal to me on so many personal levels.
But I'm hoping that this will take care of all those people complaining about wanting open PvP all the time. Here you go guys. You're dream game, and it's free.
Something tells me they'll be back complaining again though. I think they really don't want what they beg for.
-----------------------
</OBAMA>
Well atleast its not made by a Korean company, too bad I can't login though servers always full...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
all you guys do is whine whine whine, we already know SB is dated graphics wise and has its problems, due to being a sandbox style mmorpg, its the players fault for many problems during gameplay, not the game itself.
World small? lol shows how much you know, its quite a trek to run around.
Do you have me confused with someone else? I mean, I don't mind if peope dislike or hate me, I don't tend to sugar-coat my replies when someone is doing something they should not... but at least hate me for something real. I have never threated to sue anyone, much less a 14 year old kid. So please, tell me this story...
I really am wondering. Would love to hear the story behind this...
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
http://www.seandahlberg.com/
I'm sorry, is that supposed to frighten me or something? Is it supposed to make the SB community look better? What are you trying to accomplish there other than an attempt to threaten me with bully tactics? I don't quite understand because it seems to me you're trying to say that people will try to ruin my game experience because I don't like the game or the people who run it? That seems a little counterproductive doesn't it? I suppose if I did create a 'Blurr' character, I'd really get to see the true nature of the SB community wouldn't I?
Ashen, as far as the 'story' the short version is this: Back when you took over sbvault (Shadowbane Vault), the original owner of the site (who I believe was 14 at the time) told me that he had to give it up because you threatened him/his mother with legal action. He could have been lying (perhaps I should have added 'allegedly' infront of my earlier comment), but I don't see any reason why he would need to, and from what I saw of the situation, I believe him.
As far as the game itself goes, I did try it earlier today (I believe in giving a fair chance to the game). I don't like the new character generation interface compared to the older one. I found the server selection a little vague, though I thought the maps looked nice. Graphics wise I'd have to say I still feel it is below the expectation even for a game released when shadowbane was. I did have some lag/glitches and within my first 20 minutes I had an sb.exe crash. I find the interface is a little clunky and I'm hoping there's some way to make it fade transparent as it seems to take up a large amount of the screen (playing on 1024x ) I'm not trying to bash the game I'm just trying to give my opinion.
I do like the fact that there are so many customization options with all the classes and disciplines, even if I don't understand a few of the restrictions (like why can't Nephilim be Necromancers?). I look forward to participating in a siege at some point. The spell effects (those that I've seen) seem alright.
I think I need to play the game more to get a better feel of it, but I think what my verdict so far is that it's a good game for you if you enjoy the community and the rules set. If you're looking for graphics or story immersion, I would probably say the game isn't for you (as far as I've seen yet).
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Playing it in the past could mean alot of things. Exactly how far in the past did you play? Exactly what constitutes trying it? Ten minutes? Level 30? Maxed character? This is a pretty misleading statement you've made. Yes the graphics aren't what people tend to consider pretty. Some happen to like them because they are gritty.
Phase 2 of beta - Early Final
Reactivated several times over the last few years.
I have made countless max level characters.
You really didn't play much did you? There are counters to counters to counters and how you build your character means a world of difference and then once you have your build, what abilities you train make all the difference in what sequence of abilities you use. There is not auto-attack, sit back and let the character do the work for you. You need to be able to think on your feet. As for seiges, they are incredibly fun and the thing that the majority of players love most. For those that have framerate issues, it's usually as simple as dropping down things like dynamic shadows and detail and you easily can have 100 people on your screen at once all fighting together. Battles are epic there vs rinse and repeat.
Do you not understand what ASS is? You press the autoattack button. and then dial in a combination of special attacks or spells. Maybe 10% is player skill. The rest is equipment, level, and luck.
Which world? There are a couple different mapsets and people tend to complain that one is too big (the one on mourning).
All of them.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Randomly generated? No. Everything has its place.
Maybe if you are blind in two eyes, and partially retarded.
There is some however it's not nearly as much as what we had all wanted from the start. It's the one sore point we've always wanted to have in the game.
No comment.
That's what seemless zones do for you. *shrug*
No, that's what cutting corners does for you.
Dungeons were tested out in beta. People didn't like them. Many people are happy we don't have dungeons and that PvP can occur out in the open vs in an instance.
I don't remember dungeons unless they were in phase 1.
Nope, still not random. Generated randomly to spawn there to a degree sure. But definetly not random.
They are still square blocks, and look like crap.
Um... no, the worlds are not wiped regularly. The only one that gets a wipe on occassion is the Test server. The rest are persistant and the changing face of the world occurs at the hands of the players.
I remember several "resets" to "make things more interesting".
Not really. The ones that the team finds are eradicated and continue to be hunted down each time they are found. Even the most stalwart dupers of the past will tell you that there really aren't any easy ways to do it anymore and the team keeps a vigilant eye on any new ones that pop up.
They should never have been there to begin with.
Yeah because we all know SB players are generous to dupe gold for people for the heck of it.
It was a friend of a friend type of thing.
And that's where seiges come in handy. Buy a bane circle, put it down and knock it down/take it. TahDah! No more one man/woman city. Thus the beauty of the system.
If I remember correctly you need to own a city to siege a city. Maybe that has changed?
Seriously. It just doesn't sound like you have any real long term experience with the game and the only thing I can think of as far as the server wipe was when Corruption was up (I believe) and it had the Dalgoth map. It was wiped every three months or at least intended to be because players had asked for a server like that. It also had very advanced experience rates.
I have plenty of experience. It doesn't take more than 10 minutes play time to realize SB is a low quality game. I really wish it had never been released. Due to SB's failure, PVP games are probably seen as a poor investment.
Blurr, In my opinon, you are one cool dude. I don't think I need to elaborate on why...It's pretty ovious
There are two kinds of people in this world. People who pick their nose.. and liars.
Ahhh, okay. That makes things a little more clear. Actually, the issue he had was nothing to do with me. SBVault was an affiliate of the Vault Network. I worked on SBVault and was offered the position to lead up the site after being on it for a few months. Personally, it didn't matter to me either way, I was working for free and had been working as a site manager on XRGaming prior to this (when I played UO). I just happen to like to collect information on games I play and publish news and interesting details about them I come across (which lead to my current job).
But, I point out the fact that SBVault was owned by the Vault Network for a reason. I wouldn't have to threaten to former site manager because the site belonged to IGN (the url was sbvault.ign.com). Furthermore, I don't make a habit (as in never have) of threatening people to sue them. I am not a lawyer nor practice armchair legalese. Outside of ICQ or IRC, I never talked to him and actually did not know (until you just posted this) that he was that young and that he lived with his mother.
Anyhow, sorry about your friend but perhaps he was just taking the aggression out on me because I was offered the job. If I wanted to lead a site, I would of just made my own.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
http://www.seandahlberg.com/
A free game, appreciate it Ubi/WP.
I went back yesterday to check this out. Havent played since we (CoS Nation) defended our capital against the server wide zerg (zerg lost btw, beta nations ftw ).
A few points, one I'd like to mention to any SB reps that may be reading. You really do need some other method for returning vet accounts as far as logging back in. My old server Treachery was shut down long ago and I had quit the game before then. My only option yesterday was to migrate my characters to Mourning and one other server. The problem is....how am I supposed to have any clue, which open trees would be a wise/safe spot to log in on a server I never played? (Mourning was the unofficial carebear server when I played the game, don't know its nations). This wouldnt really be much of a problem except after so long it took me 5 minutes just to find my stealth ability again and then figure out how to move lol. No chance I was going to be defending myself if needed.
I'm not sure if gold even migrates with a character but if so I still have a few more rank 6's I would need to migrate but I'd really hate to just "donate" a few million to some dorks because I had no clue which open tree to use and for some reason I hadn't banked the cash back in the day. At this point I've just moved my thief over and am sitting in Khar...after an hour run from some randomly chosen open city.
Another problem I noticed was that I was/am getting some extreme amounts of rubber banding lag. I never had near the amount of lag issues back when I played and that was with an average of 1000 or so online. Yesterday Mourning had fewer than 200 and I was bouncing all over the place. Rubber banding in sieges understandable, but when I'm lagging like that solo running through the desert the idea of taking part in some good old group on group pvp concerns me.
Other than that though no real problems. Took a bit to redownload a custom gui (which imo is a must for any shadowbane player, no offence) The population at this point though will probably keep me from actually playing the game right now. Hopefully SB going free will bring Mourning back to life. I've heard this Vind server may infact have more active players but the idea of rolling up a new guy on a NON-arac server holds little interest for me. I canceled my account long ago not because of the bugs and cheats but because when our server hit 600 or so online average it became more like a game of Quake against the exact same people everyday, every night. The game needs a decent population to thrive and be fun otherwise it becomes a bit stagnant fighting the exact same guilds/players everyday.
Still, easily the best free PvP mmorpg available.
Actually he wasn't really a friend of mine, I knew him about as well as you did, and only from what he told me in emails and chat. It's quite possible he could have been lying, but I think it more likely that he did get word mentioning legal action from somewhere. Perhaps it was the vault network people that did so, and maybe they mentioned your name so he thought you were responsible. What I do know is I was not a fan of the way you handled things during that time (which of course, is my perogative and nothing to say that you did anything wrong), which lead me to believe him and my subsequent version of how things happened. Either way I know it's old history so I don't feel the need to argue it one way or the other. While I may not be able to respect you, I don't think my opinion really matters on whether you're a bad person or not, heh.
I do actually have a question that perhaps you could answer me about the SB community. How would you describe the community of players in regards to the game and pvp? Would you say that they're largely hardcore pvp'ers? (I imagine they probably have to be) Do you find them to be somewhat elitist regarding outsiders and newbies? How is the community regarding random PKing and griefing? I guess that's a bunch of questions. I know I would find the answers helpful and hopefully they would give new players an idea of what to expect when coming into the game, so they have a better idea if the game is right for them or not.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
Except in SB equipment means very very little and no pvp isn't only 10% player skill. So I don't agree with you and I understood perfectly well what you meant.
Yes, dungeons were in beta for a brief time. Don't ask me to remember what phase.
Yes, you need to be a part of a city to siege. You don't have to own one though. You could create a guild and sub to one then siege. It's part of the politcal end of the game that many people enjoy.
It definetly takes more than 10 minutes in ANY game to get the full scope of play. I tend to like to give things time and try to experience all the aspects that I can before deciding if I like it or not and even if I don't like something I'm more than aware that others may just like it so anything I say I tend to keep neutral and stress that they are my own opinions. For those that enjoy Shadowbane's style of PvP and sieging it's paradise, for others it's the 9th circle of hell. I know not everyone likes to spend more than a certain amount of time getting to know if they like a game or not. Time is always a factor and people tend to like the look of 'first blush' impressions. I can't say I blame them with so many games to try.
Those that wish to give SB an honest try are always welcome and it's an understood that it's not the game for everyone.
I'm thinking about being a healer but I'm not to sure which healer class is the best can you help me???
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
Can either yourself or Ashen confirm or deny Shadowbane 2?
Oh, I more than realize there are people out there who don't like me. And I can respect that... there are people in the world I don't like
It was just your reason for not liking me caught me off-guard since I had no idea what you were talking about.
Anywho, as to your question. The Shadowbane Community really isn't any different than any other MMO community. I'm a huge MMO player... in addition to Shadowbane (and yes, I do play it), I also play World or Warcraft, Everquest 2 (use to play the original), Lineage II, City of Heroes, and Dark and Light (beta). I've also played Dark Ages of Camelot (and reactivate it every few months), checked out Ferentus, Horizons, Ultima Online, and probably a few more I am forgetting now. They all have their hard cases but they also have their very helpful individuals.
The difference in the Shadowbane Community, though, is it is a full PvP game and many of the "board warrioring" matches evolve into in-game wars. Talk too much smack to someone and that person and their entire guild (if not nation) may be dropping a Bane Stone (what we use to initiate sieges) on their city.
So yes, there are some mouthy people in the game. There are some who have the elitist complex (and some who do and don't deserve to have that attitude). There are also some great guilds there who are there just for the fun of it. Others who are there for the lore. Some who are there just to help out. It's made up of a myriad of personalities.
Is it any more hostile and immature than other MMO communities? No. But they are quite defensive about their game (which is humorous because, to them, it's okay for them to bad mouth it... just not others).
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
http://www.seandahlberg.com/
I'm going to be lame and just copy'n'paste what I wrote on my website:
As we all know, there is a rumor about Shadowbane 2 and, as I have already stated, I cannot really confirm or deny this rumor. If we were doing it, I have already learned my lesson not to shoot myself in the foot and announce such a project too early. Shadowbane had a huge following YEARS before it was released and it caused a lot of angst in the pre-beta community. I personally would not want to go through that again. If we were not doing Shadowbane 2, I wouldnt want to say it because it doesnt mean we wont, just means we are not at the moment. Either way, as a person who deals in community, Id rather wait till Im given the official okay to state things either way. So, for those of you who keep asking me off the record there is your reply
And HoldMe, I do my best to read all feedback regarding Shadowbane. MMOs are evolving creatures that are never perfect when shipped (or else there would be no need for patchers). Getting information and seeing things from the player's perspective is vital in making the correct changes and in addressing what should be addressed first.
Sean "Ashen Temper" Dahlberg
http://www.seandahlberg.com/
what is the actual reason for the game being made free to play ashen? can you give us a hint in what you guys have planned for the game?
lvl 15 barbarian here ...had to use the name giroguy, look me up on mouring server
C
Doesnt this free game offer really just amount to more fresh meat to be endlessly ganked by the higher level long term players ?
I remember players endlessly camping outside the newb npc cities just to gank the lowbies.I really dont see how this would have changed.
Woot Another free game, i gotta try this one!
it sounds like a game i would enjoy forever and ever 
since you cna rule castles and so on anywho i'm gonna snatch it, Cheers to the shadowbane Dev ppl 