The most active server right now in Archeage is Kyrios (correct me if I'm wrong). Many of the top competitive guilds transferred there to compete against each other to control territories and trade.
Coddling PVE players in an OWPVP environment + P2G (pay to gamble) is what ruined Archeage IMO.
I really wish carebears would just avoid games with OWPVP since there is a wealth of options for them to play games and not be bothered. I'd rather this than them injecting themselves into games like Archeage and Black Desert trying to bend them to their will and weaponizing their tears when it doesn't work out.
PvEers do avoid games featuring OWPvP, which is the reason why all of them fail miserably.
Count down until one of these so-called hardcore OWPVPers mentions their default messiah, Eve, with their whopping 250k player base.
I don't like calling carebears PVE'ers. I'm a PVE'er, I'm a PVP'er too.
Carebears (up until recently I didn't like using this term) are people who join OWPVP games and complain and whine and make posts about gankers, griefers, gank griefs, grief ganks, and demonize people who actually join and play games as intended. These are the folks who will pick berries during open conflict and complain and whine when they get killed.
Saying carebears avoid games w/ OWPVP is not accurate. Carebears play any game they feel like playing and if it happens to be OWPVP they do their best to bend the game to their will. Archeage and Black Desert, have been altered for the worst due to these types IMO. Someone said before they want an open world experience and if they have to squat an OWPVP game and ruin it for everybody who is there for that, they will.
I don't play EVE, not fond of it personally. You can try to crap on their "250k player base" but at least they aren't miserable and have the game they want and it has longevity and consistency because of it.
Actually Carebear goes back a long ways and it used to refer to solo or small groups of gankers who who run at the first sign of being outnumbered or run if they were losing if you want to get technical.
The most active server right now in Archeage is Kyrios (correct me if I'm wrong). Many of the top competitive guilds transferred there to compete against each other to control territories and trade.
Coddling PVE players in an OWPVP environment + P2G (pay to gamble) is what ruined Archeage IMO.
I really wish carebears would just avoid games with OWPVP since there is a wealth of options for them to play games and not be bothered. I'd rather this than them injecting themselves into games like Archeage and Black Desert trying to bend them to their will and weaponizing their tears when it doesn't work out.
PvEers do avoid games featuring OWPvP, which is the reason why all of them fail miserably.
Count down until one of these so-called hardcore OWPVPers mentions their default messiah, Eve, with their whopping 250k player base.
I don't like calling carebears PVE'ers. I'm a PVE'er, I'm a PVP'er too.
Carebears (up until recently I didn't like using this term) are people who join OWPVP games and complain and whine and make posts about gankers, griefers, gank griefs, grief ganks, and demonize people who actually join and play games as intended. These are the folks who will pick berries during open conflict and complain and whine when they get killed.
Saying carebears avoid games w/ OWPVP is not accurate. Carebears play any game they feel like playing and if it happens to be OWPVP they do their best to bend the game to their will. Archeage and Black Desert, have been altered for the worst due to these types IMO. Someone said before they want an open world experience and if they have to squat an OWPVP game and ruin it for everybody who is there for that, they will.
I don't play EVE, not fond of it personally. You can try to crap on their "250k player base" but at least they aren't miserable and have the game they want and it has longevity and consistency because of it.
You don't like calling PvEers "carebear" yet you do it in an astoundingly demeaning fasion. It may interest you to learn that many advocates for PvEers are players that also enjoy PvP. They just don't care for forced non-consensual OWPvP.
There are many PvE games that feature flag, or consensual, PvP. As a matter of fact the large majority allow this game play option and have been hugely successful doing so. There is absolutely no reason for every game not to allow a player the option to PvP. Forcing a player to be harassed and trolled into playing a game in a manner that is disconcerting to that player is the very antithesis of fun. How this can even be debated is mind-blowing, much less implemented as a fair and enjoyable feature by game developers. It literally subjects a portion of their player base to be harassed, inconvenienced, and trolled for the enjoyment of the smaller minority.
IMHO, claiming oneself to be a PvEer while at the same time championing forced non-consensual OWPVP, and calling PvEers "carebears" is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Please, whatever you do stay away from us EVE players and let us game the way we wish, what you enjoy just holds no appeal.
BTW I am a Carebear who just enjoys a challenge and wants to survive and prosper in a savage place, free from unnecessary restrictions on who I want to be.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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The most active server right now in Archeage is Kyrios (correct me if I'm wrong). Many of the top competitive guilds transferred there to compete against each other to control territories and trade.
Coddling PVE players in an OWPVP environment + P2G (pay to gamble) is what ruined Archeage IMO.
I really wish carebears would just avoid games with OWPVP since there is a wealth of options for them to play games and not be bothered. I'd rather this than them injecting themselves into games like Archeage and Black Desert trying to bend them to their will and weaponizing their tears when it doesn't work out.
PvEers do avoid games featuring OWPvP, which is the reason why all of them fail miserably.
Count down until one of these so-called hardcore OWPVPers mentions their default messiah, Eve, with their whopping 250k player base.
I don't like calling carebears PVE'ers. I'm a PVE'er, I'm a PVP'er too.
Carebears (up until recently I didn't like using this term) are people who join OWPVP games and complain and whine and make posts about gankers, griefers, gank griefs, grief ganks, and demonize people who actually join and play games as intended. These are the folks who will pick berries during open conflict and complain and whine when they get killed.
Saying carebears avoid games w/ OWPVP is not accurate. Carebears play any game they feel like playing and if it happens to be OWPVP they do their best to bend the game to their will. Archeage and Black Desert, have been altered for the worst due to these types IMO. Someone said before they want an open world experience and if they have to squat an OWPVP game and ruin it for everybody who is there for that, they will.
I don't play EVE, not fond of it personally. You can try to crap on their "250k player base" but at least they aren't miserable and have the game they want and it has longevity and consistency because of it.
You don't like calling PvEers "carebear" yet you do it in an astoundingly demeaning fasion. It may interest you to learn that many advocates for PvEers are players that also enjoy PvP. They just don't care for forced non-consensual OWPvP.
There are many PvE games that feature flag, or consensual, PvP. As a matter of fact the large majority allow this game play option and have been hugely successful doing so. There is absolutely no reason for every game not to allow a player the option to PvP. Forcing a player to be harassed and trolled into playing a game in a manner that is disconcerting to that player is the very antithesis of fun. How this can even be debated is mind-blowing, much less implemented as a fair and enjoyable feature by game developers. It literally subjects a portion of their player base to be harassed, inconvenienced, and trolled for the enjoyment of the smaller minority.
IMHO, claiming oneself to be a PvEer while at the same time championing forced non-consensual OWPVP, and calling PvEers "carebears" is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Please, whatever you do stay away from us EVE players and let us game the way we wish, what you enjoy just holds no appeal.
BTW I am a Carebear who just enjoys a challenge and wants to survive and prosper in a savage place, free from unnecessary restrictions on who I want to be.
It's OK, not everyone can hack it.
No one is preventing you from gaming the way you wish. Others are merely requesting the option and courtesy to do the same.
i bet all theses people that want a PVE server , are just trolls that just want to sit there and KS someone trying to grind take all the loot and laugh at them because of no consequences, right now if you do that you get shit on in a heart beat over and over till you leave, so about a huge gigantic portion of people asking for a PVE server are troll that like to KS and steal loot from other players without any consequences, and cannot handle getting shit on when they do that in a PVP server. PVP only server is the only way to go to prevent those PVE trolls. like in many games there is always an asshole that will come steal ur mobs and loot and guess what you cannot do shit , you just gotta stop grinding till that is done even if you there first.
Part of the new trend. Well, since Aion. Allods Online does this too and Archage to some extent. Level up PVE and then at the end you are thrown into PVP. Terrible design, just terrible.
Part of the new trend. Well, since Aion. Allods Online does this too and Archage to some extent. Level up PVE and then at the end you are thrown into PVP. Terrible design, just terrible.
lol I left Aion long ago due to the borked mechanics. Not because I hated PvP, but because the factional mechanics were so broken...one faction pretty much owned each server. They had caps, but those didn't work properly.
I had a hard time leveling up just because you were expected to go to the Abyys at the time for the questing. Not a big deal open world pvp area fine cool, but you needed to roll 5 deep and people my faction had given up on the Abyys so I could never get a decent group together to quest with where people didn't get pissed off and bail due to twinked campers.
I tried to level outside the Abyss and it was a serious no go; because it punished you for doing that by making the grind painfully slow (this was working as intended believe or not at the time) It became a game where depending on what faction you wanted, you pick the server where they were more prominent and controlled more. Korean MMOs need complete revamps for westernization because most people in the west do not know how to play their mechanics properly and will exploit the shit out of something; problem is most publishers are too lazy, greedy and stupid to realize this.
The most active server right now in Archeage is Kyrios (correct me if I'm wrong). Many of the top competitive guilds transferred there to compete against each other to control territories and trade.
Coddling PVE players in an OWPVP environment + P2G (pay to gamble) is what ruined Archeage IMO.
I really wish carebears would just avoid games with OWPVP since there is a wealth of options for them to play games and not be bothered. I'd rather this than them injecting themselves into games like Archeage and Black Desert trying to bend them to their will and weaponizing their tears when it doesn't work out.
PvEers do avoid games featuring OWPvP, which is the reason why all of them fail miserably.
Count down until one of these so-called hardcore OWPVPers mentions their default messiah, Eve, with their whopping 250k player base.
I don't like calling carebears PVE'ers. I'm a PVE'er, I'm a PVP'er too.
Carebears (up until recently I didn't like using this term) are people who join OWPVP games and complain and whine and make posts about gankers, griefers, gank griefs, grief ganks, and demonize people who actually join and play games as intended. These are the folks who will pick berries during open conflict and complain and whine when they get killed.
Saying carebears avoid games w/ OWPVP is not accurate. Carebears play any game they feel like playing and if it happens to be OWPVP they do their best to bend the game to their will. Archeage and Black Desert, have been altered for the worst due to these types IMO. Someone said before they want an open world experience and if they have to squat an OWPVP game and ruin it for everybody who is there for that, they will.
I don't play EVE, not fond of it personally. You can try to crap on their "250k player base" but at least they aren't miserable and have the game they want and it has longevity and consistency because of it.
You don't like calling PvEers "carebear" yet you do it in an astoundingly demeaning fasion. It may interest you to learn that many advocates for PvEers are players that also enjoy PvP. They just don't care for forced non-consensual OWPvP.
There are many PvE games that feature flag, or consensual, PvP. As a matter of fact the large majority allow this game play option and have been hugely successful doing so. There is absolutely no reason for every game not to allow a player the option to PvP. Forcing a player to be harassed and trolled into playing a game in a manner that is disconcerting to that player is the very antithesis of fun. How this can even be debated is mind-blowing, much less implemented as a fair and enjoyable feature by game developers. It literally subjects a portion of their player base to be harassed, inconvenienced, and trolled for the enjoyment of the smaller minority.
IMHO, claiming oneself to be a PvEer while at the same time championing forced non-consensual OWPVP, and calling PvEers "carebears" is the epitome of hypocrisy.
"Carebear" IS demeaning IMO. I never used to like using it. After seeing the amount of thin skinned people crying, whining and trying to demonize people for wanting a gameplay mechanic that they have free will to avoid makes it a useful word. I don't want to call people derogatory colloquials for female anatomy so carebear works way better regardless of its origins.
I hate watching people talking about "forced PVP" and "non-consensual PVP" like their character is some orafice people are violating and abusing without asking permission. How about DON'T PLAY THE GAME! Playing the game is consenting to the PVP rules in it. What is difficult to digest about this?
You then go into some bullsh!# rant into how OWPVP is the antithesis of fun because YOU don't like it, and call me a hypocrite for liking PVE and liking OWPVP. What? You're mad (in the old english way).
You are a carebear with victim personality disorder. Stop being so melodramatic, and get help.
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Hi...my fault for not researching it thoroughly before ordering game. Mu understanding is forced PvP end game? I wont play a game with that. You cannot launch game without forfeiting you right for a refund so i can't log on to find out if there are PvE servers available. No PvE only, correct?
The game was advertised as a PVP game from the start I don't understand why so many people don't understand it is a PVP game. Daum or Pearl Abyss themselves never claimed to be a PVE game.
People should never rely on forums to find answers like this just look at the page where the developer is posting. If you go to the main page and go to game it will tell you everything you need to know before purchasing the game. It is an open world PVP game.
The only people saying it is PVE are the ones that are trying to force a change which Daum has repeatedly said isn't going to happen.
Honestly... if it had pve servers you'd have too many people at all the grind locations. You'd think to yourself "Man I wish I could do something about this". Then you would remember that there are PVP servers, and this is why people pvp.
i bet all theses people that want a PVE server , are just trolls that just want to sit there and KS someone trying to grind take all the loot and laugh at them because of no consequences, right now if you do that you get shit on in a heart beat over and over till you leave, so about a huge gigantic portion of people asking for a PVE server are troll that like to KS and steal loot from other players without any consequences, and cannot handle getting shit on when they do that in a PVP server. PVP only server is the only way to go to prevent those PVE trolls. like in many games there is always an asshole that will come steal ur mobs and loot and guess what you cannot do shit , you just gotta stop grinding till that is done even if you there first.
Can you name one of those people ? And btw, what would prevent you from playing on a pvp server if you think it's the better way to do it ?
All the people that I know, pretty much everyone in my guild, that would play on a pve server don't even grind mobs. The highest level in the guild is 54, I am 52.5. We don't farm mobs, ever.
I don't like calling carebears PVE'ers. I'm a PVE'er, I'm a PVP'er too.
Carebears (up until recently I didn't like using this term) are people who join OWPVP games and complain and whine and make posts about gankers, griefers, gank griefs, grief ganks, and demonize people who actually join and play games as intended. These are the folks who will pick berries during open conflict and complain and whine when they get killed.
Saying carebears avoid games w/ OWPVP is not accurate. Carebears play any game they feel like playing and if it happens to be OWPVP they do their best to bend the game to their will. Archeage and Black Desert, have been altered for the worst due to these types IMO. Someone said before they want an open world experience and if they have to squat an OWPVP game and ruin it for everybody who is there for that, they will.
I don't play EVE, not fond of it personally. You can try to crap on their "250k player base" but at least they aren't miserable and have the game they want and it has longevity and consistency because of it.
You don't like calling PvEers "carebear" yet you do it in an astoundingly demeaning fasion. It may interest you to learn that many advocates for PvEers are players that also enjoy PvP. They just don't care for forced non-consensual OWPvP.
There are many PvE games that feature flag, or consensual, PvP. As a matter of fact the large majority allow this game play option and have been hugely successful doing so. There is absolutely no reason for every game not to allow a player the option to PvP. Forcing a player to be harassed and trolled into playing a game in a manner that is disconcerting to that player is the very antithesis of fun. How this can even be debated is mind-blowing, much less implemented as a fair and enjoyable feature by game developers. It literally subjects a portion of their player base to be harassed, inconvenienced, and trolled for the enjoyment of the smaller minority.
IMHO, claiming oneself to be a PvEer while at the same time championing forced non-consensual OWPVP, and calling PvEers "carebears" is the epitome of hypocrisy.
"Carebear" IS demeaning IMO. I never used to like using it. After seeing the amount of thin skinned people crying, whining and trying to demonize people for wanting a gameplay mechanic that they have free will to avoid makes it a useful word. I don't want to call people derogatory colloquials for female anatomy so carebear works way better regardless of its origins.
I hate watching people talking about "forced PVP" and "non-consensual PVP" like their character is some orafice people are violating and abusing without asking permission. How about DON'T PLAY THE GAME! Playing the game is consenting to the PVP rules in it. What is difficult to digest about this?
You then go into some bullsh!# rant into how OWPVP is the antithesis of fun because YOU don't like it, and call me a hypocrite for liking PVE and liking OWPVP. What? You're mad (in the old english way).
You are a carebear with victim personality disorder. Stop being so melodramatic, and get help.
Talk about being melodramatic. Relax dude. No need for the overly emotional, chest thumping, tough keyboard warrior talk. I find it laughable how some of these so-called OWPvPers associate themselves with being somehow big and tough simply because they are able to press keyboard keys really fast behind the safety of their computers and make a little red bar go down on an opponents cartoon character on a screen. Ironically, that derogatory colloquial for female anatomy seems a lot more appropriate for that type of delusional mentality, exemplified by many of these pro-OWPvPers, who seem to need to behave in this manner in an effort to compensate for their ineptitude in real life.
Here's a clue for you. No one is impressed by your ability to stomp your stumpy little fingers on a keyboard and make the little red bars go down on characters controlled by people who don't want to be bothered by you, and/or feed into whatever it is that you are trying to accomplish, to overcompensate for your real life inadequacies. That doesn't make you a tough guy. It simply makes you an obnoxious and immature POS that grown adults don't want to deal with while playing a game that they have as much right to play as you do. Don't delude yourself into thinking that just because you engage in this type of rude and toxic mode of game play, that it somehow makes you a tougher man than those players who elect not to engage, and/or behave, in that manner. It's a game. Any correlation between the bravado of a person in a game and real life, is simply a manifestation in the minds and imagination of the truly weak.
Cut the tough talk, partner. No matter how much you try to conceal it through a video game, your real life is what it is and no matter how much you want to project yourself unto a character and believe that you are somehow that badass character out to kick everyone's behind, it just will never happen. You will continue to go through life being the pathetic excuse for a human being that you are so desperately attempting to avoid.
I've never been really big on PvP, but in BDO I haven't found it to be in my face like many are making it out to be. I've been ganked maybe 20 times. Only a few by more than 1 player. Karma deters people from being PKers in the open world.
Honestly... if it had pve servers you'd have too many people at all the grind locations. You'd think to yourself "Man I wish I could do something about this". Then you would remember that there are PVP servers, and this is why people pvp.
YEaaaaaa maaan
lmao
Anyways not the reason I PvP but whatever's clever I guess.
Kyleran said:Please, whatever you do stay away from us EVE players and let us game the way we wish, what you enjoy just holds no appeal.
BTW I am a Carebear who just enjoys a challenge and wants to survive and prosper in a savage place, free from unnecessary restrictions on who I want to be.
It's OK, not everyone can hack it.
No one is preventing you from gaming the way you wish. Others are merely requesting the option and courtesy to do the same.
Except gaming the way you wish directly prevents him from gaming the way he wishes. This is not a situation where you can have it both ways.
Kyleran said:Please, whatever you do stay away from us EVE players and let us game the way we wish, what you enjoy just holds no appeal.
BTW I am a Carebear who just enjoys a challenge and wants to survive and prosper in a savage place, free from unnecessary restrictions on who I want to be.
It's OK, not everyone can hack it.
No one is preventing you from gaming the way you wish. Others are merely requesting the option and courtesy to do the same.
Except gaming the way you wish directly prevents him from gaming the way he wishes. This is not a situation where you can have it both ways.
It's not gaming the way I wish, it's gaming in a way that is fair and equitable to the entirety of a game's player base. This isn't just about me, this is me speaking as an advocate for something that is very wrong with the MMORPG gaming genre. I don't see how anyone can believe that creating enjoyment for one portion of a game's player demographic, at the expense another portion of that game's player demographic, is fair and equitable game play development. It isn't and it's wrong, and the multitude of threads that repeatedly pop up with every game that is released featuring this failed game play mechanic, speak to that. My prediction is that the practice will eventually fall on its face, and change will come when the contrast becomes more obvious, it it hasn't already. The major problem with this is that most of the games being released featuring this mode of game play are coming from the East, where the OWPvP culture and mentality is much different than that of the NA/EU culture and mentality as it applies to OWPvP. I seriously doubt that if the culture and mentality of OWPvP was as rude, toxic, obnoxious, and inconsiderate in the East, as it is in NA/EU, games featuring this mode of OWPvP would cease to be developed.
That said, both gaming demographics can absolutely co-exist. I mean, what is the difference between implementing a game that provides for both gaming demographics by way of separate servers for both non-consensual OWPvP and consensual OWPvP? The absence of either in the game simply serves to limit a game's profit potential and long term future viability. The only reasons it isn't done, is because providing a consensual PvP alternative renders the non-consensual OWPvP server totally irrelevant. This is obvious to all, but developers have to omit providing the consensual PvP alternative in an effort to force players to populate the less preferable non-consensual OWPvP server. And the reason developers do this is an attempt to push this failed agenda simply because it is cheaper to do so, and it makes players themselves the content that the developers are either too lazy, or too cash strapped, to provide for their consumers.
Yeah, we're done here. I think when I said stop being melodramatic he read:
"Needs more melodrama"
Stopped reading after first sentence. Victim Personality Disorder. Look into it. Good luck to you.
The silly memes, emotional outbursts, and sheep calling of names says it all. Grow up kid. My only regret is in having wasted my time schooling you via a response to your childish post. You are not worthy of that valuable lesson.
i bet all theses people that want a PVE server , are just trolls that just want to sit there and KS someone trying to grind take all the loot and laugh at them because of no consequences, right now if you do that you get shit on in a heart beat over and over till you leave, so about a huge gigantic portion of people asking for a PVE server are troll that like to KS and steal loot from other players without any consequences, and cannot handle getting shit on when they do that in a PVP server. PVP only server is the only way to go to prevent those PVE trolls. like in many games there is always an asshole that will come steal ur mobs and loot and guess what you cannot do shit , you just gotta stop grinding till that is done even if you there first.
Can you name one of those people ? And btw, what would prevent you from playing on a pvp server if you think it's the better way to do it ?
All the people that I know, pretty much everyone in my guild, that would play on a pve server don't even grind mobs. The highest level in the guild is 54, I am 52.5. We don't farm mobs, ever.
oh so how did u get to 54 then did you do life skill for 5000 hrs? no u did not you killed mobs
Just wondering, what are the consequences to you if you get ganked in PVP. Do you lose items , money etc? Do you just respawn at your closest bind point with just the grievance of having to run back? Do you have a timer that prevents you from getting ganked again? What exactly are the pros and consequences?
Just wondering, what are the consequences to you if you get ganked in PVP. Do you lose items , money etc? Do you just respawn at your closest bind point with just the grievance of having to run back? Do you have a timer that prevents you from getting ganked again? What exactly are the pros and consequences?
You lose XP and have the chance to lose one or more of the gems enchanting equipped items... same as death by mob.
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10+ hours of real time lost? You know I understand losing a little of experience but 10+ hours worth? No offense but that is a little ridiculous. Thanks for the replies though, this is not for me. Cannot risk losing that much time if someone decides to be a jerk.
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I had a hard time leveling up just because you were expected to go to the Abyys at the time for the questing. Not a big deal open world pvp area fine cool, but you needed to roll 5 deep and people my faction had given up on the Abyys so I could never get a decent group together to quest with where people didn't get pissed off and bail due to twinked campers.
I tried to level outside the Abyss and it was a serious no go; because it punished you for doing that by making the grind painfully slow (this was working as intended believe or not at the time) It became a game where depending on what faction you wanted, you pick the server where they were more prominent and controlled more. Korean MMOs need complete revamps for westernization because most people in the west do not know how to play their mechanics properly and will exploit the shit out of something; problem is most publishers are too lazy, greedy and stupid to realize this.
I hate watching people talking about "forced PVP" and "non-consensual PVP" like their character is some orafice people are violating and abusing without asking permission. How about DON'T PLAY THE GAME! Playing the game is consenting to the PVP rules in it. What is difficult to digest about this?
You then go into some bullsh!# rant into how OWPVP is the antithesis of fun because YOU don't like it, and call me a hypocrite for liking PVE and liking OWPVP. What? You're mad (in the old english way).
You are a carebear with victim personality disorder. Stop being so melodramatic, and get help.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oooooo can I plaaaaay?
Then it becomes....
Nuuuuuuuu! Y u violate my PVE? Reported for abuse.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People should never rely on forums to find answers like this just look at the page where the developer is posting. If you go to the main page and go to game it will tell you everything you need to know before purchasing the game. It is an open world PVP game.
The only people saying it is PVE are the ones that are trying to force a change which Daum has repeatedly said isn't going to happen.
All the people that I know, pretty much everyone in my guild, that would play on a pve server don't even grind mobs. The highest level in the guild is 54, I am 52.5. We don't farm mobs, ever.
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Talk about being melodramatic. Relax dude. No need for the overly emotional, chest thumping, tough keyboard warrior talk. I find it laughable how some of these so-called OWPvPers associate themselves with being somehow big and tough simply because they are able to press keyboard keys really fast behind the safety of their computers and make a little red bar go down on an opponents cartoon character on a screen. Ironically, that derogatory colloquial for female anatomy seems a lot more appropriate for that type of delusional mentality, exemplified by many of these pro-OWPvPers, who seem to need to behave in this manner in an effort to compensate for their ineptitude in real life.
Here's a clue for you. No one is impressed by your ability to stomp your stumpy little fingers on a keyboard and make the little red bars go down on characters controlled by people who don't want to be bothered by you, and/or feed into whatever it is that you are trying to accomplish, to overcompensate for your real life inadequacies. That doesn't make you a tough guy. It simply makes you an obnoxious and immature POS that grown adults don't want to deal with while playing a game that they have as much right to play as you do. Don't delude yourself into thinking that just because you engage in this type of rude and toxic mode of game play, that it somehow makes you a tougher man than those players who elect not to engage, and/or behave, in that manner. It's a game. Any correlation between the bravado of a person in a game and real life, is simply a manifestation in the minds and imagination of the truly weak.
Cut the tough talk, partner. No matter how much you try to conceal it through a video game, your real life is what it is and no matter how much you want to project yourself unto a character and believe that you are somehow that badass character out to kick everyone's behind, it just will never happen. You will continue to go through life being the pathetic excuse for a human being that you are so desperately attempting to avoid.
lmao
Anyways not the reason I PvP but whatever's clever I guess.
Except gaming the way you wish directly prevents him from gaming the way he wishes. This is not a situation where you can have it both ways.
It's not gaming the way I wish, it's gaming in a way that is fair and equitable to the entirety of a game's player base. This isn't just about me, this is me speaking as an advocate for something that is very wrong with the MMORPG gaming genre. I don't see how anyone can believe that creating enjoyment for one portion of a game's player demographic, at the expense another portion of that game's player demographic, is fair and equitable game play development. It isn't and it's wrong, and the multitude of threads that repeatedly pop up with every game that is released featuring this failed game play mechanic, speak to that. My prediction is that the practice will eventually fall on its face, and change will come when the contrast becomes more obvious, it it hasn't already. The major problem with this is that most of the games being released featuring this mode of game play are coming from the East, where the OWPvP culture and mentality is much different than that of the NA/EU culture and mentality as it applies to OWPvP. I seriously doubt that if the culture and mentality of OWPvP was as rude, toxic, obnoxious, and inconsiderate in the East, as it is in NA/EU, games featuring this mode of OWPvP would cease to be developed.
That said, both gaming demographics can absolutely co-exist. I mean, what is the difference between implementing a game that provides for both gaming demographics by way of separate servers for both non-consensual OWPvP and consensual OWPvP? The absence of either in the game simply serves to limit a game's profit potential and long term future viability. The only reasons it isn't done, is because providing a consensual PvP alternative renders the non-consensual OWPvP server totally irrelevant. This is obvious to all, but developers have to omit providing the consensual PvP alternative in an effort to force players to populate the less preferable non-consensual OWPvP server. And the reason developers do this is an attempt to push this failed agenda simply because it is cheaper to do so, and it makes players themselves the content that the developers are either too lazy, or too cash strapped, to provide for their consumers.
It's BS and it needs to stop.
"Needs more melodrama"
Stopped reading after first sentence. Victim Personality Disorder. Look into it. Good luck to you.
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The silly memes, emotional outbursts, and sheep calling of names says it all. Grow up kid. My only regret is in having wasted my time schooling you via a response to your childish post. You are not worthy of that valuable lesson.
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