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  • DarkHeart2DarkHeart2 Member Posts: 493

    Dwarfs are so cute... =)

    RF Online|LostGrace-3x Cora Caster-Spirit Server-Active
    Lineage 2|LostGrace-4x Elemental Summoner-Gustin Server-Deactivated, Kiltor-3x Elven Oracle-Gustin Server-Baned T_T

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Anyone have anything new?

    I am returning to L2 this weekend (do yourself a favor and DO NOT try out D&DO) Also I understand you can make ingame movies now? Anyone have anything they want to show off?

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Been wanting to come back but still too scared of all the cheating going on.

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    I hear ya Greatness,

    But it happens in every game. You want to see real cheating? Log onto a WoW server. They are overrun with gold farmers. Also, something no one on this site (MMORPG.com) mentions very often is the fact there are tons more private WoW servers then L2. I don't see why anyone would need to buy any gold at all in WoW as it is the easiest game ever created and there are hardly any money sinks beside a few pieces of gear.

    I guess it depends on how the cheats impact you. I hate in L2 when bots are hogging a spot. On the other side, in WoW its just as bad if not worse because alot of the farmers are live and try to give you problems.

    Its not the games fault, its the jags who run the the bots/farming and the jokers who buy the crap. I really don't know what a company can do to prevent it. I try not to let it bother me, as long as its no one I know or associate with what else can you do? Report them at every turn is about all.

    NC Soft could help the problem by doing something about the economy. As it stands its the games greatest issue. Increasing the drops isn't going to help because all that will do is inflate the prices more. The item drop in PvP may be the only solution as the gear is over inflated to begin with. Also maybe some lower end A, B and C grade stuff at a vendor to keep things in prespective. The AFK shop feature just needs to be dumped altogether and a central market is needed. There is nothing you can do in the AFK shop that you cant do in a central market.   

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    Well the reason it means a lot more in Lineage 2 is because Levels and Items are key to being good.

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • akuzuraakuzura Member Posts: 22

    When I think about it, I also want to come back too! (you don't know me, but I quit because of a scam.. The scam was so bad planned, but a -_-tard like me fell for it..) When I look at all these pictures I realize that there is soo much I haven't yet to experience! I thought that I needed to be at least 44+ to even think aboout sieging/raiding or other events like that... I saw people on those pictures who were still No Grade and probabaly HAD A LOT OF FUN!!..
    I don't hope you have gotten too far into the game, that would leave me as the black-sheep of this thread.. I play on Teon, anyone else does? if someone wants to play with me and start a whole new character, that would be great fun!! (but then again, I am kind of a wuss/*ussy and likes to have friends to rely on.. I hate soloing so much, I died once [in real life] doing so)

    If you want to add me on Xfire, then my Xfire account is akuzura, or just press my Xfire signature :)

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
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  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    You went back? You going back makes me want to go back 10 times more!  image .

    I miss my character and all the PvP fun I had!

    I want to come back SOOOOOO BADLY!
    For all you cheaters out there, please stop! Seriously, I am going crazy wanting to come back but resisting as best as I can. I know in the end it is useless but the fact that I have had so much fun, I want to come back.

    Should I ignore the cheaters? But everywhere I look, there is a bot group going around. For those that are currently subscribed, please say something about my experience in the offical forums image. Maybe devs will listen to me and the BILLION others who want to come back but know that there is a lot of cheating going on!

    How is the cheating situation?

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Hey Greatness,

    Yes I returned. I guess the situation is the same. Like I said before, I try not to focus on it at all. I am in a good size guild with a clanhall and we use teamspeak. Everyone (but me, is hitting 60 now) No one in the guild is cheating that I know of. Everyone helps each other out. They have all been around for a long while so they pass the old gear around to each other. (they still dont loan me any gear but thats because Im the "new guy" and also left once already so I understand if they dont lend me anything) They have some very elaborate market things going on that would make my head hurt trying to describe.

    The GM is helping me buy some gear at decent prices, we will see what he comes up with this weekend. (Im not even worried about D grade as those levels go pretty fast, its the C grade stuff I'm worried about) I would like to hit 40 with at least some sort of C grade weapon. Composite armor (C grade) doesn't look that hard to get ahold of (about 2 mil on a shop) So there is a good chance I will be decked out in C grade at 40 image which is more then I can say for trying to do it alone! They are also grouping and helping me level. So all in all, my experience really isn't any different that any other MMO.

    Come on back....I understand you had a bad experience with another player (Im guessing) but don't dump the game if you like it because one or two people where Buttheads to you.

    edit - what else I'm I gonna do? Play D&DO? ROFLMAO!!!!!

  • akuzuraakuzura Member Posts: 22

    Still a lot of cheaters, yeah.. Even more now than when I left >.<
    I came to dwarf village, and I swear to God there were more than 20 botters either de-leveling or just wandering around (with the names "fgfgfh", "AGSHJ", "ARJGAJSD", etc.)

    But if anyone is starting a new char, I would recomend a dwarf.. I heard of someone who had a dwarf, and in level 52 (warsmith) he had top B grade gear and enough money for A grade..

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188



    Originally posted by akuzura

    Still a lot of cheaters, yeah.. Even more now than when I left >.<
    I came to dwarf village, and I swear to God there were more than 20 botters either de-leveling or just wandering around (with the names "fgfgfh", "AGSHJ", "ARJGAJSD", etc.)
    But if anyone is starting a new char, I would recomend a dwarf.. I heard of someone who had a dwarf, and in level 52 (warsmith) he had top B grade gear and enough money for A grade..




    I have had great experiences in Lineage 2 but the bumps were the cheaters. That was the only thing that made me angry. There are still a ton there?

    Well, last time I played, I used to have a lot of fun training the cheaters. Maybe I will join and train them image ! I remember one bot would reply pm if you ever said "Hi" to it. Even if you said "asdasdHiasdjwd" he would reply "Hi" because there was hi in my word lol. I believe he got banned though since I reported! :)!

    I may join back! image

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • Cuj0Cuj0 Member Posts: 81

    Bots will be massbanned every tot periods, so they are keeping fight them :)

    The problem is GG, that can't stop EVERY bot programs. Chinese ppl release patch on patch, and GG can't keep that ritm :/

    The good thing is tha they finnaly thinking on change GG for a better integrated anti-cheat program.. that'll be the best solution I think, and if they are smart, they will stop everything, they have the potentiality.

    ..hax..

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188



    Originally posted by Cuj0

    The good thing is tha they finnaly thinking on change GG for a better integrated anti-cheat program.. that'll be the best solution I think, and if they are smart, they will stop everything, they have the potentiality.



    Any quotes from devs or anything on this?


     

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • akuzuraakuzura Member Posts: 22



    Originally posted by Greatness

    I have had great experiences in Lineage 2 but the bumps were the cheaters. That was the only thing that made me angry. There are still a ton there?
    Well, last time I played, I used to have a lot of fun training the cheaters. Maybe I will join and train them image ! I remember one bot would reply pm if you ever said "Hi" to it. Even if you said "asdasdHiasdjwd" he would reply "Hi" because there was hi in my word lol. I believe he got banned though since I reported! :)!
    I may join back! image




    hehe... Nice one.. Same thing with me, though I recorded one incident (C3, so I used fraps).
    This guy (who I knew was botting) Was all around EG.. I was really irritated, since he KS'ed me alot. So I went over to him, and hit him ONCE. He, though, was a noob at botting, and told the bot to reply to PVP-inviters. Right after I hit, and then I mean less than a second, he said something like: "Hey what are you doing? Stop that now, you sh!t eater!!!!"
    I was amazed for a second.. The bot relogged, and the real guy went in. Of course I rapported it, but I don't know what happened after that.

    I feel nowdays, rapporting is a b!tch when it comes to bots. I have SEEN the new bots they use, nowdays, and they have GM commands: when GM PM's, computer make's noise/relogg.. When GMis in the diameter of 1000 (L2 distance), Relogg, etc.

    EDIT: "asdasdHiasdjwd" I get why you would say "asdasd" but at the end it says "jwd", how did you manage that? that's not uncoinsequensal (Erre, I don't know how to spell the word)! ^^

  • Cuj0Cuj0 Member Posts: 81



    Originally posted by Greatness



    Originally posted by Cuj0

    The good thing is tha they finnaly thinking on change GG for a better integrated anti-cheat program.. that'll be the best solution I think, and if they are smart, they will stop everything, they have the potentiality.


    Any quotes from devs or anything on this?


     


    Read the Q&A section on C5 infos post of the first conference from Pusan

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    Q: How will the bot problem be solved
    A: Bots are continuously being dealt with already. We compile a banlist every few weeks. Better alert methods of sensing 3rd program use is being looked into.

    ..hax..

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188



    Originally posted by akuzura



    Originally posted by Greatness

    I have had great experiences in Lineage 2 but the bumps were the cheaters. That was the only thing that made me angry. There are still a ton there?
    Well, last time I played, I used to have a lot of fun training the cheaters. Maybe I will join and train them image ! I remember one bot would reply pm if you ever said "Hi" to it. Even if you said "asdasdHiasdjwd" he would reply "Hi" because there was hi in my word lol. I believe he got banned though since I reported! :)!
    I may join back! image



    hehe... Nice one.. Same thing with me, though I recorded one incident (C3, so I used fraps).
    This guy (who I knew was botting) Was all around EG.. I was really irritated, since he KS'ed me alot. So I went over to him, and hit him ONCE. He, though, was a noob at botting, and told the bot to reply to PVP-inviters. Right after I hit, and then I mean less than a second, he said something like: "Hey what are you doing? Stop that now, you sh!t eater!!!!"
    I was amazed for a second.. The bot relogged, and the real guy went in. Of course I rapported it, but I don't know what happened after that.

    I feel nowdays, rapporting is a b!tch when it comes to bots. I have SEEN the new bots they use, nowdays, and they have GM commands: when GM PM's, computer make's noise/relogg.. When GMis in the diameter of 1000 (L2 distance), Relogg, etc.

    EDIT: "asdasdHiasdjwd" I get why you would say "asdasd" but at the end it says "jwd", how did you manage that? that's not uncoinsequensal (Erre, I don't know how to spell the word)! ^^


    It didn't matter what the outside characters were lol. I just randomly pressed letters getting that but put "Hi" in the middle image.

     

    Also, NcSoft America Team does not have banlist :(.

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
    Nothing

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Me and a friend.

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    And I can't help checking out the Dark Elf girls lol (whats wiht this new behind the head view? I remember just "rolling" the mouse wheel into 1st person. Now you get this back of the head view)

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  • SeanRPSeanRP Member Posts: 106

    Tallum Heavy Armor up by Devastated Castle (Disciples Necro in the background hehe)

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
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  • TensionxTensionx Member UncommonPosts: 14

    Just a reiteration...

    This game is not for everyone.

    This game is 99% pvp 1% insane grind

    This game requires a very serious dedication or longterm time investment

    This game still has the best graphics of any MMORPG and its 2 years old....

    This game has the worst customer support of any game / program ever created

    This game is the most fun I have ever had online.

    There you have it. You decide.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905



    Originally posted by Tensionx

    This game has the worst customer support of any game / program ever created

    Have you ever played SWG?




    Back on Topic, I have run by this waterfall a hundred times in Partisans Hideaway but I never really stopped to look at it...all I have to say in wow.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Talk about a LUCKY day! I managed to bargain my way to a good price on a suit of Composite armor today! Its not Top but its a good start for the price I got it for. I can't use it yet but thats one less thing I need to worry about! I'm telling you guys, it can be done in this game and I play casually also!image
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,949

    Congrats.

    I have to say though, you will be able to use it for quite a while, regardless of whether it is top. On the PTS I subbed Destroyer and used all my adena to craft a Dragon Slayer. The only armor I had was the composite and I used it at lvl 64 in Dragon Valley.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Pictures are not posting :( ...so never mind

  • ayuchanayuchan Member Posts: 90


    Originally posted by akuzura

    Still a lot of cheaters, yeah.. Even more now than when I left >.<
    I came to dwarf village, and I swear to God there were more than 20 botters either de-leveling or just wandering around (with the names "fgfgfh", "AGSHJ", "ARJGAJSD", etc.)
    But if anyone is starting a new char, I would recomend a dwarf.. I heard of someone who had a dwarf, and in level 52 (warsmith) he had top B grade gear and enough money for A grade..



    don't make a warsmith your first character...he's right that they make good money but they can't kill anyone very easily and no one likes to party them

    make a nuker or summoner (the necro is the fotm so they might get nerfed next chronicle) with a dwarf as your alt.

    if the only thing u like to do is make money maybe it would be good to make the warsmith your main...but i made one as my first character to help some real life friends and it was a thankless job.

    to the guy asking about cheaters?

    yah the bots are still around but there is double the territory and lower population since the last time you played so although i hate them too...u can avoid them 90% of the time...if just looking at them bothers you it might be annoying...but its pretty much a non issue as far as interfering with your own play

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