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All people need do is go read all the posts you have ever made, and they will see that all you do if things are not going your way is make personal insults, I could do the same to you, but you know what I can't be bothered and you sadly to say are not worth my time, now you have a great day
But in all fairness this is the first time I've heard of them, but I don't get out much.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
When I went to make my first purchase I paused and found the same title on GOT for the same price I bought it there instead.
I like GOGs no DRM policy, even though I decided install their player anyway.
I like having options
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
In 15 years of gaming I've never been banned from any Forum, and I was massively active in nasty Forums like Darkfall, BDO, WoW, Archeage, and Reddit to name few.
I rarely reply with one liners, I usually write walls of text because I believe intelligent people deserve an appropriate reply even if I disagree with them.
But when people like you start writing one liners with veiled insults to everyone that disagree with them avoiding to debate the actual issues, I have no problem lowering myself to their level, in fact, as you might have noticed, I am quite confortable with this level of conversation as I had years of training.
If you want respect, learn how to respect first.
See, I could have written a sarcastic one liner to dismiss your comment, but I actually took my time to explain my thoughts, like I usually do.
Outwitted none of these clowns have outwitted me, all they have done is make it personal, that is not wit, that is the last resort. if they don't currently play then all they are doing is talking out of their asses, how can you comment about something you don't know about, all they keep drowning on about is that SOTA is doomed, and these figure show this, and you can work this out by this, total load of donkey crap, without the full figures you can not prove or show anything, and when you question that, they come out with the same crap the Port won't release it, that is another pile of flaming horse crap. you don't like the game I get it, everybody gets it, so do something about it....... in other words piss off and play something else, and leave those that want to do that.
Time will reveal all, it will work or it won't work, but I don't give a monkeys crap about what some knobs that do not play or didn't back it have to say!
On the gold standard: Once again, don't speak about something you don't know and therefore spread unthruths. I won't go into details here, but golld standard was based on gold obviously and it was controlled true. BUT never was controlled by govnerments. You see, since gold has a finite amount on earth, it's controlled by it's amount over the demand for it, never by govnerments. True that today, gold's value is controlled "by someone", which isn't and never was "the govnerment" thruth creation of gold papers (or promises)...but again this ain't the subject here.
On RTM Controlled by dev: The same way the gold was controlled by the demand VS supply, devs HAVE to assume this role. This "artificial player market" is simulation of the real world, can't you see it, how is this bad?!?
Another proof that you're speaking of thing you don't know: There is NO SUCH THING AS GRINDING GOLD in this game, not at this current state of the game and there will never be. You can't just repeat "one simple action" i.e: kill a certain mob and make a ton of cash, this ins't how the game is designed. The easieset way I found yet to make as much money I can with a minimum of effort if doing agriculture. The game is so deeply designed that it made me work on an Excel spreadsheet for weeks (and it's not even done) in order to see if agriculture was worth doing and how to take the most of it...
I'm starting to be really tired of you guys how speak about things you don't know and spread it like truths. Again, you probably don't even know how to level up your character...as every aspect of this game that I've experiemented yet, it's been deeply thought and the amount of knowledge that surrounds them is vast...either you get some help of the guys that found how these mechanics work or you take your balls and do it on your own "as start as a noob has you would have done in UO, but knowing that the mechnisms are way more complicated"....OR, what you all seem to have done....tried it some point (probably a less polished mechanism than currently) or if recently could get you head around it and decree that it was suck.
Wow, why am I still losing energy in here...
It's still a poor argument. Adults have more money, but the money of a teenager/child is much more expendable. Unless we're bringing in possible expenses like a car note or saving for college, a young audience generally has more leeway and less risk involved in making game purchases. Hell, growing up, games and consoles were generally where most of my money went.
As an adult, things are different. You make more money, but most of it is already locked behind bills. If you have a spouse or children, things get even more complicated. The risk of overspending on entertainment becomes much greater, and you have to budget more.
Hell, we see evidence of this all the time. As the core demographic of gamers gets older, the shift from hard game copies to digital Steam keys on heavy discount is becoming more and more popular. Digital sales are now speculated to make up the bulk of the market in large part for this very reason. Gaming is a popular hobby, but it's also an expensive one, and gamers are becoming more frugal, not less, with age.
And no, it isn't an attractive prospect to maybe make money gambling on virtual items. Just look at Diablo 3. Sure, its auction house made money, as suckers spent good money on digital weapons, but it irreversibly killed the game's population. Once the hype died down, the auction house was given the boot, and, despite a rather excellent expansion, Diablo 3 has never fully recovered from the damage done to it in its vanilla release. It was designed so heavily around the auction house, and that killed the experience for everyone outside of a small subset of RMT whales and those hoping to get a lucky expensive drop.
And, if, for some reason, you do consider it to be an attractive prospect, I have a challenge for you. Why don't you go tell your family that you are considering investing hundreds of dollars on a castle in Shroud of the Avatar? You'll find their reaction interesting.
I hope you know what that is.
Even though we might have different opinions, he is one of the members I respect the most, because he knows how to debate and how to make his point clear without insulting people.
And again we don't always agree on things.
Second example, I don't even understand where is the problem.
One guy made a thread, people started to derail his thread straight away and ganged on him.
My post was sarcastic and it was meant to defuse the tension between the OP and the others.
If you don't get the sarcasm I will translate it for you.
"The derailing of this thread is so bad that soon people will start talking about totally unrelated bullshit (Ex: Pancakes). Let's see how long will it take for the Mods to lock this thread."
That's me being nasty?
See, you are more worried about character assassination than actually discuss SotA and its issues (or virtues in your case), then you complain that I am nasty to you.
Do you blame me?
PS: If you look back at your last 10-15 posts you will realize it's all an attempt to mock people who don't agree with you in a way or another, there is very little interest in actually defending the game with good arguments.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I don't know how old you are but I couldn't offer games when I was a teenager...maybe cuz not all of it was dedicated to games as it is today (little bit exagerating on purpose here about the new generations)
As for the thing about money and being an adult and have some responsabilities, true man...I do not know tour financial situation, but of course I can admit that a lot of us, old UO player, wouldn't have the liberty of spending 12K on a pledge. RMT is no gamble in this game, you will have to have knowledge in order to make money (appart from those who invested a lot only to sell it back and make profit), I'm speaking making money of fun playtime. Just for an example, a guildmate found a "heart of vul" for 15K on a vendor. This sells for quite a bit, for RL money but the seller wasn't aware of this. At the end my friend made 17$USD out of it. How bad is this?????? tell me, tell me please. This RMT system is SotA is like stock exchange, market goes up and down, you need to be able to know what you're selling and when you sell it to make the best outcome out of it. All this new "stock market" dimension taken to another level is just yet "another" way to play the game...again, how is it bad?
If you decide to just quite the discussion, or stay within that arguing with ste2000 and therefore do not change the direction of your efforts towards my goal (showing them that they have to give the game another chance and give them all the tools require to see the game for what it is),hey man I won't blame you at all:). I got some much currently happening in my life right now, but still I take the time and energy to try to defend the game cuz I truly feel in my heart that this game deserve to live and succeed, but I won't be able to do it alone anymore, so as I said if you quit or if we don't join our effort together towards the same goal, I'm also quitting. I have given enough alone already I'm exhausted.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville