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Guild Wars Sucks
anarchyart
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It's not an MMORPG, it's Diablo 2 with a Lineage 2 skin. It shouldn't be on this site and it's appalling that it holds 2 of the top spots on the ratings.
Bottom line, it's not an MMORPG and it doesn't belong here. Give those 2 spots for games that have persistant worlds, or at least the ability to play with more than a handful of other people at the same time.
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Maybe more action is just what the doctor ordered.
Most of the MMO's out there are garbage. I'm glad at least GW is doing something different.
I will have to 100% agree that Guild Wars IS NOT an MMORPG
but it is a great game
just enjoy it for what it is.
I still think like at least 40k people still play diablo 2, then again it's riddled with hacks and dupes because blizzard doesn't give a crap about game that doesn't bring them money.
Also the more I think of it the more I think WoW is like three-dimensional diablo 2 with crafting and a persistant world with races and crappier PvP.
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massively multiplayer ROLE PLAYING game
and a
massively multiplayer FIGHTING game
%99 will go play the fighting game.
I don't consider myself an MMORPG'er, but I still play MMORPG's, because most of them are just 3d Diablo.
As far as I'm concerned, EQ SWG FF etc can all take a long jump off a short pier, all of them suck.
I'm done with grinding and camping. Fighting is the only cool part of any game, thats all I want to do and not waste time with bullschit like fishing/mining/etc.
GW may not be a traditional mmorpg, but people will keep calling it a mmorpg no matter how much you complain, and for the lsat time its not just diablo 2 with new graphics, its not even close.
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Anarchyart i used to respect you,and you did good posts in the past,on general forum,EQ2,DAoC,EVE,AA forums... all the games you played,but this is a flaming/troling post
You will see many posts here bashing you,
Ok is your opinion,but thet game is here so is concidered by most a mmorpg,no mater your opinion,many people like it beter than most of other mmo´s so is ranked 2nd and 3rd,is just because it is a god game.
GW is not like EQ or UO,so it meens that is not a MMO?You dont like inovation?
Mssive multiplayer online role playng game,were does guild wars dont feet in this words?Massive???In cities you will see 100+ people like in wow´s ogrimar.Isnt 100 people massive?you dont see 100 guys together in Orizons
90% mmorpgs have instances,if you dont like them,do like me,play Lineage2
what do you mean by MMOFighting game? Can you describe one?
For me, fighting is cool, but I love PvP and not only the combat PvP but economic, political, etc PvP. . . too bad space isn't my preferred genre or else i'd be an EVE fanboi.
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No, it does not suck. It is a very well made game with a lot of depth. It is true that it is not a MMORPG, and should never have been included here on this site. DDO (which does Suck) is not a MMORPG and also should not be included on this site.
But, GW does not suck. Now, I don't like it, and I don't play it anymore. Because it isn't a MMORPG. But for what it is, it is really good.
Just my 2c
I'm not a guild wars player (yet anyhow, maybe soon since I'm currently not playing any online games) but I do not believe they have ever claimed to be an MMORPG. I will shamelessly steal the following entry from Wikipedia that addresses that exact subject :
Though often referred to as an MMORPG, ArenaNet coined the term CORPG (Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game) to describe Guild Wars.
This title describes the competitive PvP-oriented (Player vs. Player)
design of the game or the cooperative PvE-oriented (Player vs.
Environment) instances of the game, as well as serving to differentiate
it from the standard, subscription-fee-based, MMORPG genre. Guild Wars
does not support hundreds of players in combat, instead having large
towns where people form groups of eight or fewer players who then fight
in their own unique instance of the game world. "Guild Wars is not an
MMORPG," said Jeff Strain, producer of the game.
In terms of how that relates to whether or not it should be on this site - well, that is a little bit of a grey area. If defined by the title, MMORPG.com, of this site alone, no, it wouldn't belong here. However I think the spirit of the site allows for it entirely: it is a game that is played across a network instead of locally, it supports multiple players, it has a PvE storyline and PvP as well. It may not be a classic MMORPG, but it does consist of many of the key defining elements
Then again, I'm not defensive of the rpg side of things at all, have never cared for it in the active sense (ie my characters personality is mine, it is nothing more than a controllable avatar to me, no DnD in my blood). I would be just as fine if they redefined MMORPG as MMOSIG (social interaction gaming, just something I'm making up here to my knowledge) which would be a better catch-all, and usually a better description of the nature of the gameplay, while still not laying exclusive definition to it's style.
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Warcry if you lost your respect for me because I have different tastes than you then it was never wanted in the first place. Not everyone likes the same stuff. It might not suck for you, but for me, it stands for the decline of MMORPG's as we know it and the dash for cash. Guild wars is an online fighting game with a quest based levelling treadmill. If that rocks for you, I'm happy for you, but I want more than Team Street Fighter Online. And I sure don't agree that Team Street Fighter Online should be on mmorpg.com.
Just my opinion. And LOL Remy
Is just a mater of taste,i perfer pvp games without instances like lineage,some people dont they like guild wars,and many instances,imercive quests.
Gild wars is a street fighter online?Can yo guive me an example?
Have you tried GW?I tried for a few time,and it can be an amazing pvp game if you do skill combos with your group.
Is a difrent game,difrent market.
I call it inovation.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
It's got 1.5 million players. In the cities you *do* technically 'play the game' in the form of completing and getting quests. Crafting armor/weapons. Geting weapons/equipment enchanted and enhanced. Meeting other players to form guilds, alliances and groups. All the while you are physically *in the game* not in a web interface or even a 'chat' interface waiting for a 'launch room' to open so you can play on a game hosted from anotehr player's PC... no it's all on the same servers though possibly in different Instances.
It's played Online
It's a Role Playing Game
So by definition it *is* an MMORPG.... granted not a more traditional one but it fits the definition.
DDO is even less of an MMORPG but I don't see people griping about that.
So saying it doesn't belong on this site is silly. It, in point of fact, *is* an MMORPG... whether you like the game, hate the game or are indifferent to the game it fits the definition of an MMORPG.
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Indeed, it is controversial that Guild Wars fills 2 places in the top seven on this site, but the game definately does not suck. In fact, I feel that it's one of the most technically accomplished pc games I've ever played, and delivers exactly what the developers promised it would.
But yes, (by my own definition of MMORPG) Guild Wars does not belong on the list . No need to be arrogant and elitist about it, either.
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Everyone is being mislead by the title and aren't getting the real message across.
Is Guild Wars really an MMO and should it be listed here on MMORPG.com?
This isn't really a discussion about whether the game sucks or not.
IMO, this game doesn't really belong here on this site. Actually, by that definition, it's an ORPG, just as stated by the devs. There is nothing massive about playing with only 7 other players at once. The games large size doesn't make it automatically make it an MMO. If we are going to define games by the genre to the very core of the definition, then games like Halo are RPGs because we play the role of Masterchief. The game may have some MMORPG elements, such as partying, crafting, and guilds, but it doesn't have the core feature of an MMO where you aren't limited to playing with just a few other people at a time in an isolated instanced area.
Funny how people get jealous because Guild Wars rates higher than their favorite MMO, so they try to get it taken off the site. lol
Who cares how they rate? If you enjoy it that's all that counts.
I think GW is a great game, but its definitly not an MMO. heck, we don't call Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst an mmo either, right? Its rediculous that a game that isn't an mmorpg to even start with is on top of the list.
While I fully enjoy Guild Wars and think it's a great game, I do believe that it does BELONG here but it does not belong on the rankings.
Guild Wars is in a class all it's own and really this would be the best place for it, but I do not believe that it should compete in rankings w/ the other true MMORPGs out there. This will lead people to believe it's an MMO and go into it looking for an MMO when infact, it is nothing like what they are looking for. I have even seen posts here saying "WELL WHY IS IT ON THIS SITE THEN!?"
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Anyway no I don't think it's a MMORPG. It's about as much MMORPG as if they decided to add StarCraft here.
I dislike calling games MMORPG's just because you have a character that you can level inside of them. I think it requires more to gain the MMORPG title.
Anyway GW is an excellent game.
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