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Very Interesting Article on the Death Penalty in MMORPGs
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Now maybe some people need to play zero sum games, maybe they need to shit on other people to feel better about themselves, maybe they are deep down Cartman's, where they only want something because no one else has it.
Maybe some people are that petty. For me, I simply do not grasp that mentality.
Case in Point. In DDO, my Lit II Green Steel Greatsword does not do less damage because everyone else in the party also has a Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Weapon or Weapons, it just makes the dungeons go faster.
When I made my first Green Steel weapon, the other people I was raiding with, a open PUG I might add, congratulated me on making my first piece. Strangers and Friends alike were happy for my progress and accomplishment, and in turn as I played, I found myself being happy for the progress of others.
To use another Example.
When I finally made Astralaria in GW2, it didn't make it any less an Accomplishment for me to make that, simply because a huge number of other people also made it, and most did it before me.
As tradition, I linked in Lions Arch the parts before I crafted the weapon in GW2, and the there people congratulated me on making a Legendary, my first and only, even people who had a dozen of them, where happy for me to finally make one of my own. Others talked about their own progress and it turned into a grand event of us cheering each other on and not to give up.
That is what sets the mentality of difference between the game ideas and the nature of the people that play them, where in a game world players are supportive and happy for each others progress, they did not view it as a threat to their own.
What you are putting out is a game world full of players that view each others progress as a threat to their own.
Sounds like what you are looking for is a game world full of bitter jealous petty players, while I wish you well in finding that world, that sure as hell does not something I would want to do for fun filled fantasy escapism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punishment
b : to inflict a penalty for the commission of (an offense) in retribution or retaliation
2a : to deal with roughly or harshly
That sounds like someone using his name.
By the way, his name was supposedly pronounced "oh gee" (from his guild mates in the same PK guild that Spectre took over), but I never heard if that was those words or his initials.
Once upon a time....
That's fine. You believe what you want to.
"First order of business, have the scribes order one million medals of honor, one million blue ribbons, and one million gold coin to go with each. And may we be victorious in the dungeons on the morrow! Like there should be any question about that, eh? Haha"
Once upon a time....
Fame is why you play MMORPGs?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Myself, I don't seek fame, but if it comes I'm not totally against it, either.
I discovered the greatest mystery in all of gaming, IMO, and still had no fame. And it doesn't bother me one bit.
https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/487824/the-greatest-quest-artifact-to-ever-exist-in-mmorpgs#latest
What does bother me is that there isn't more of this sort of thing "in play."
Once upon a time....
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Well... I guess one could be famously dead?
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Obviously.
Challenge remains. It must simply now be sought as it is largely not default. Failure remains tangible to any that value the time lost due to it.
There are games that provide that provide plenty of interesting and important choices related to character. One must simple seek them out. Story-led games will not go beyond that in any meaningful way. Non-linearity is more limited, but even that is present in a few games.
Mandatory collective activity isn't social in nature. I have seen few MMORPGs with much in the way of role-play going on. Such games may well have been a conceptual precursor but are little more than that in practice.
The most I've ever seen was in City of Heroes on the Virtue server, and the vast majority of that was outside combat. Most had the good sense to tie their backgrounds and role-play to the setting of the game and not the specific stories themselves.
Those inclined could do the same on any story-led game. That I see it so seldomly suggests few are inclined, at least in public view.
Sounds interesting. Please elaborate.
Sorry Fansy not Fancy. It was a play on pansy the name.
Sullon Zek where there were mainly evil aligned players was synonymous to scum and villainy but there was one rule you cannot kill a level 5 player. He was a bard or troubadour as he called himself and he was level 5 but he was armed with Selo Accelerendo a level 5 song that speeds your movement. So he trained a whole bunch of Sand Giants on players but only those players he had talked to and although always polite he would annoy them enough or deem them evil and kill them. Of course after awhile they were on to him but he was level 5 so they could not kill him.
He also managed to charm the Priest of Discord in Riverdale and set him to attack all the players in Riverdale.
Mind you when you die in Everquest you can lose a lot of experience. Experience you might need days to grind back up so needless to say he pissed off a lot of players.