Originally posted by Rekrul Originally posted by Dessano
- Postures having meaning again. It's about time! I think the benefits for postures should be slightly more obvious than they are but I"m glad we can at least fire while kneeling/prone again. This isn't a big deal in solo play, but in large-scale firefights (like the GCW) it should hopefully make a big difference.
Cool.
So you can kite while kneeling? Dodge while prone? Does your cursor auto-aim or aim better when lying down?
Try the "crouch" command in FPS, and tell me how long you live, when I come bunny-hopping, wall-hugging with double rockets right into your head.
Postures are back, YAY! So what? They made sense in melee-centric pre-cu combat. They serve only decorative purpose right now.
Regardless of the mechanics, unless they go back to static, stand-and-attack combat, the person not running around will lose hands down.
Oh, and, how exactly does this benefit the majority, the Jedi? They kneel, while i shoot at them from 9m?
From the SWG forums:
ChuTneYuk wrote:
Stand/Prone/Kneel : YES! Finally, thank you! On that point though, Its hard to tell if it actually makes a difference. The only Noticeable difference I saw was when either my char or my target was running around, I got many more Glancing Blows.. this is good and realistic. BUT, I couldnt tell any difference when /prone or /kneel. Would it be possible to actually see under Character Sheet, my Precision (perhaps) value actually increase when kneeling/prone please? Especially helpfull when we get charcter stats tooltips!
For what's out there now, kneeling gives you a slight increase in a chance for a critical hit. Prone gives you an even greater chance at a critical hit and also a pretty good chance of getting glancing blows versus range. A melee attack versus prone has a gigantic chance of being a critical hit.
The effect is subtle but also additive with stat bonuses (and eventually Expertise bonuses) such that choosing to go prone or kneel is a choice you may consider to increase your offensive and/or defensive capability. FYI, the stats that influence critical hits are Precision and Luck (ranged attacks) and Strength and Luck (melee attacks). Agility and Luck influence your chance of glancing blow.
Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For someone who said: "Cut your wrists lower" to someone else here... Your lecture is a bit empty.
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
I have to agree. Alot of people here who don't like the game likes to throw an insult towards those who do play it, so does that make them the same person? If some people here (not you Duncan, and I don't think he's including you since that isn't really something you do ) can't handle being called a name by people that do play the game, maybe they shouldn't do the same thing?
Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. Also I noticed today several posts from Vet players that are actualy like the new chnages and they are coming back strong. Woohooo. I BOW before DEVS, they are goind in right direction and I personlay think this is reburth of SWG. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game. The future is looking quite positive, and I look forward to the things to come with great anticipation. So here is just a little something that I want to point out: Weapon Damage. This is awesome. This change alone goes a long way towards making weaponsmiths useful again. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot more to be done, but this is a big step in the right direction.
- Combat Speed. This is a tremendous improvement over the old system. The jury's still out on whether it's right where it needs to be, but I have to say that it felt a whole lot better than what we had before. I felt like each shot actually meant more altogether and I wasn't nearly as focused on just doing as much damage as possible as fast as possible. I found myself doing more snare kiting and generally using more of my specials than I previously would have in PvE.
- NPC AI/Difficulty. This is great. To take down an elite I need to have a group now. It's about time that we made it so the majority of the game can't be soloed. There's still some tweaking needed I think, but overall I like the challenge level a lot more than what we had previously, where I could just blast through legions of normal NPCs without really worrying about it. The days of mindless, diablo-style wading through your enemies are hopefully coming to an end.
- Target Highlight. It's not target lock, which I would have preferred, but it does fix the noncombat problems with the original system so in that it's a good thing. I had trouble using it effectively in combat to mark the target I wanted to track, but that may just be me not being used to it. Overall I'd say it dose really help combat much, and it was sorely needed.
- Postures having meaning again. It's about time! I think the benefits for postures should be slightly more obvious than they are but I"m glad we can at least fire while kneeling/prone again. This isn't a big deal in solo play, but in large-scale firefights (like the GCW) it should hopefully make a big difference.
- Elemental criticals. I didn't really get the chance to mess with these. They sound neat in concept but it will take a while to figure out whether they're very effective in practice.
Its funny how you post this yet on Kauri a few long time vets are calling it quits due to this...one was quoted as saying "instead of clicking less I found myself clicking my mouse more" and "it seems like in order to allow the specials to fire they cut dmg in half and sped up the cooldown timer" and"still hard as hell to get a lock on someone"...sounds like alot of fun to me...glad I quit this game back in August of last year...
We have enough Youth, How about a Fountain of Intelligence?
Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. Also I noticed today several posts from Vet players that are actualy like the new chnages and they are coming back strong. Woohooo. I BOW before DEVS, they are goind in right direction and I personlay think this is reburth of SWG. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game. The future is looking quite positive, and I look forward to the things to come with great anticipation. So here is just a little something that I want to point out: Weapon Damage. This is awesome. This change alone goes a long way towards making weaponsmiths useful again. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot more to be done, but this is a big step in the right direction.
- Combat Speed. This is a tremendous improvement over the old system. The jury's still out on whether it's right where it needs to be, but I have to say that it felt a whole lot better than what we had before. I felt like each shot actually meant more altogether and I wasn't nearly as focused on just doing as much damage as possible as fast as possible. I found myself doing more snare kiting and generally using more of my specials than I previously would have in PvE.
- NPC AI/Difficulty. This is great. To take down an elite I need to have a group now. It's about time that we made it so the majority of the game can't be soloed. There's still some tweaking needed I think, but overall I like the challenge level a lot more than what we had previously, where I could just blast through legions of normal NPCs without really worrying about it. The days of mindless, diablo-style wading through your enemies are hopefully coming to an end.
- Target Highlight. It's not target lock, which I would have preferred, but it does fix the noncombat problems with the original system so in that it's a good thing. I had trouble using it effectively in combat to mark the target I wanted to track, but that may just be me not being used to it. Overall I'd say it dose really help combat much, and it was sorely needed.
- Postures having meaning again. It's about time! I think the benefits for postures should be slightly more obvious than they are but I"m glad we can at least fire while kneeling/prone again. This isn't a big deal in solo play, but in large-scale firefights (like the GCW) it should hopefully make a big difference.
- Elemental criticals. I didn't really get the chance to mess with these. They sound neat in concept but it will take a while to figure out whether they're very effective in practice.
ROFLROFL who are you trying to fool...it is obvious you work for SWG
I am planning on resubbing my account tonight when I get home and it is due to people like Obraik telling me the truth about the good and the bad. I am willing to sacrafice a little. HOWEVER, people like this Dessano guy is just bad. He sounds like he is either an SOE dev or someone is holding his testicles in their hand threatening to cut them off if he doesn't praise SOE.
I mean he's like "SOE Devs are the best. They will scratch your back and bath you! This game is the best thing since sliced bread." "There are NO problems with SWG."
Originally posted by Obraik Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano
I have to agree. Alot of people here who don't like the game likes to throw an insult towards those who do play it, so does that make them the same person? If some people here (not you Duncan, and I don't think he's including you since that isn't really something you do ) can't handle being called a name by people that do play the game, maybe they shouldn't do the same thing?
I know what you mean and I agree. This thread degraded quickly, but my original point was that, unlike you who can come here and say something along the lines of: "Hey, there's these changes in TC and they are good because _________ and ________ ", this guy comes here and says: "Hey, there's these changes in TC and they are good, and if you weren't to busy bitching about it, you'd notice". That's flamebaiting to me. Even though it can get pretty bad sometimes, this is one of the forums where you can actually have a discussion, trust me there's much worse out there... And I'd like to see a higher standard be kept. I come down just as hard on people "on my side of the argument" when they do it.
About him being the same person as MagnumII, well, I'm conviced he is because of the similar styles of postings, the way he expresses himself, Magnum's dissapearance after and embarrasing post and this guy sudden, immediate appearance. That and my gut feeling. But that's an opinion.
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Malickiebloo Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano Originally posted by duncan_922 Originally posted by Dessano I loged in on TC2 and its a blast. For those of you too busy bitching to pay attention, I think we should take notice of TH, and the rest of the Dev team who have been putting so much dedication back into our game.
If it wasn't for this commentary, I would've given you credit as someone who genuinely likes the game, but as it stands, it only means that you are a regular flamebaiting troll. What's the matter, you were too embarrassed by the last comments you made with your MagnumII user and you had to create a new one?
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For someone who said: "Cut your wrists lower" to someone else here... Your lecture is a bit empty.
I never said I was different .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
To me it looks like you are, after reading all posts in that thread. Correct me if I am wrong but what exactly you are doing in that thread except slapping me around for reason that I like this game and I am still playing and was able to share my joy and hope to others? Pard me but I think you are mistaking.
And also I am not sauing this game is 100% OK! but Pub 29 is a good start and I think its the first pub from long time that will really make some difference in combat style and in game tottal.
You dont like it fine no ones beging you to come back. My personal view on all this is that you dont whant this game to be good and if you think that you not playing this game noone should cause in your opinion its sux.
Originally posted by Dessano Hmm I did not create any others accounts especialy Boudewijns. So you can think and imagine whatever you like. It looks like someone making fun of me thats all. And also I am glad that ppl that are so negative and with such hate are not a part of the SWG comunity anymore. Ehhh some ppl.
So you dont miss 200k subs and someone other then your lava beetle to talk to? Group with? All those professions and the choice to choose between them?
Listen man, noone said "I hate YOU" If there is any hate its for whats been done to a game that quite honestly did not need that drastic of a change and a change for the worse is whole point of these people posting these things on the forums. Do I agree with how some express that? No, certainly not. How could so many be so wrong? Maybe its all just a big consipracy O.o
riiiight now back to reality.
Remember some of the people who post in this forum could have been a guildie of yours or a grinding companion, or maybe someone you had fun dueling. Or taught you how to make that lil jedi and saber of yours. Or was a pikeman, Doctor or something that helped you "solo" krayts for the "ubar damage pearls" and maybe even went to the planet you were dead on and drove 5k to res you. Maybe the people who built your swoops armor and weapons. These are the people posting here man, people YOU used to play with.
If you like the game bud then by all means play it... but you cant sit there and tell people who KNOW its not improving that it is, thats just not right.
If your stuck in a deep hole and see the light of day, that doesnt mean your out of the hole...it just means your stuck in a hole with the sun in your eyes...
Originally posted by Dessano Well I didnt say you were bitching and all that. Buuuuut! To me it looks like you are, after reading all posts in that thread. Correct me if I am wrong but what exactly you are doing in that thread except slapping me around for reason that I like this game and I am still playing and was able to share my joy and hope to others? Pard me but I think you are mistaking. And also I am not sauing this game is 100% OK! but Pub 29 is a good start and I think its the first pub from long time that will really make some difference in combat style and in game tottal. You dont like it fine no ones beging you to come back. My personal view on all this is that you dont whant this game to be good and if you think that you not playing this game noone should cause in your opinion its sux.
No one, at least not the ones that are that are worth paying attention anyway, is slapping you around for liking this game. A lot of people here have a different opinion than yours and they are letting you know why. You think these changes are good because _________ and some people think they are lame because ___________. It's called a difference of opinion and a discussion. If you don't like to have your opinions challenged, you don't belong on a public forum.
You say that Pub 29 is a good start. Fine and dandy, that's your opinion. I'd hardly call that "a start" when it's been 3 years already. I've heard so many "good starts" and "first steps on the right direction" that almost nothing SOE/LA does impresses me anymore. That's my opinion/
And "You dont like it fine no ones beging you to come back"???? Weren't you the one who made a thread titled We need you! ????
And you think that we don't want this game to be good? Fine, that's your opinion, and perhaps to some extent you are right, some of us do want to see it fail. I for one do, but it's because I think this game is beyond salvation and I'd like it to die quickly so that another one will take it's place. But remember, as far as I know no one here is a developer or a SOE/LA Decision Maker, so it's not "us" who ruin this game
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
ya iv been playing since pub9 and the game rock my socks off but then I they started to change the game over and over again i quite when Cu came out then came back the nge came quite then came back all my 345 friends quit i palyed TC2 ya swg is desperate to get back all its people and your right "its one big beta game" and never been properly completed and i wasted 500 dollers over a crapy MMORPG i wish it was sweet game iv been a starwars fan for 20years and i thought this was fun then bam changes all the time!
all SOE give a !@#$ about is money do you see them in the forums replying to lots of people i dont only thing they replying to is LOCKING only nice dev i every meet is LANCE who help me in the game and told me whats happing to the game and thats why i quit befor cu came out and sold my account for 1k300 then befor nge aswell for 1k500 and lance said the devs are lossing hope in the compony but But what ever the game sucks im just hoping that some one makes a new starwars mmorpg
desano how much does SOE pay you to spout this rubbish?
SWG at the last check only had 12k people playing on all servers.
Im a veteran, been in it since 2003, dont see me re-signing up do you. you crack me up better go take my cup of tea of my install disk and fire SWG up again. on second thoughts, $OE still owns it
First off, you're all full of it. (I WIN BUTTON) /push
Second, and many will flame me for this but it's true: What is on TC2 is ALMOST playable. Here's my opinion:
I actually had a bit of fun with a guildie.
We went to take out Ancient Krayts and got PWNED. And I mean PWMED.... it took about 7 seconds for us to die. Now, he was a Medic (and quite a good player) & I was a BH (and also quite a good player).
Weapons mean something, and are fun to play with again. Now, if they would just make people specialize in the type of weapons they use.
Weapons:
Are WAY bugged.
Weapon damage with Elite Weps at LVL 90 is to high.
LS's are WEAK!!! Too weak actually, and that's just not Iconic. Reduce Jedi Armor (or eliminate it), tweak their specials & make the Saber DOUBLE the damage. Make Jedi a hard, and different game to play! It SHOULD be harder to play!
All Weapon damage is capped at 1000 DPS
An Elite (silver Chevron) of your level will beat you down like like a witch, and I LOVED it. Dath is DANGEROUS again! The Geo Cave is NOT soloable! DWB is DEATH!!! Now, that's not to say you can't kill an equall LVL Chevron (some are much easier than others), but they are WAY tougher.
Even a group of regular Mobs at or above your level can pwn you, and GOOD!
The AI is cranked up, which can tick you off in a good way. It's actually AGRESSIVE now, as well as tactical (you switch to Melee, they switch to ranged and run, lol)
The AI recognizes different damage types, and has unseen different resistances. They're bugged, but there.
Specials are NOT fixed.They work more often, but they still fail occasionally.
I installed the updated UI mod, which is the ONLY way I can play it. EVEN SMED SAYS THE UI #$%^&!!!
A second toolbar is SORELY needed.
MEDICS ARE GODS!!! I actually was standing next to Obi while he joked with another Medic about how overpowered they were (BUSTED ), and that they didn't want to duel a Medic, lol!
TOO MANY JEDI!!! Yes, I am an "Elder", but that's not the point. I would be much happier if they treated Jedi like it was viewed durring these times: HUNTED!!! Elite Dark Troopers Patroling for them, or landing when they are spotted.
REOMVE ALL HEALS & SPECIALS and return Stims, TRAPS & NADES to the game! THIS IS NOT A MAGIC GAME!!! HEALING ISN'T A SPELL!!! Make them craftable, have different stats and Cert'ed only. Make people CHOOSE their tactics. There are NO excuses not to! Everyone is loaded, and heck, add NPC vendors that sell average stuff to all NPC Cities... make them easy to get, but lower quality than crafted.
BRING BACK MEANING TO DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS!(See the healing thing above) Make Officers better group leaders, make BH's better Solo'ers, make Commando's weak healers/high damage, make Jedi High damage, weak Defense, give the spys real SPY abilities, let smug's use DIRTY TRICKS/Hack terms... you get the idea... make the professions MEAN something!
Last, CENTER THE G#% D@^& CAMERA!!!!!
Summary: It's still FAR from a good game! It's horribly buggy and not anywhere near as good as the old game.Don't let the Fanboi's fool you!!!
To the Dev's: GO PLAY DDO!!! Yes, tthe non-combat is horrible, but the combat and group rolls are MUCH better! It's a Lock-On Targeting game with free firing that lets you tumble, dodge and play with skill, and BUILD YOUR TOON THE WAY YOU WANT TO! Heck, it has Racial Bonuses & is an action/Dice Roll Game!
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
Originally posted by MX13 First off, you're all full of it. (I WIN BUTTON) /push Second, and many will flame me for this but it's true: What is on TC2 is ALMOST playable. Here's my opinion:
I actually had a bit of fun with a guildie.
We went to take out Ancient Krayts and got PWNED. And I mean PWMED.... it took about 7 seconds for us to die. Now, he was a Medic (and quite a good player) & I was a BH (and also quite a good player). Weapons mean something, and are fun to play with again. Now, if they would just make people specialize in the type of weapons they use.
So, is that PWNED or PWMED?
But still, I fail to see the fun here. One shot kills again it seems. Krayts benefit only those that stockpiled the pearls, so they'll be able to sell them at high prices again.
But this is the same as what has happened with every CU. Mobs are suddenly completely out of whack. People will realize they no longer can level (you said it yourself), the progression will slow down, grouping kills the xp, etc.
Capped damage at 1000 dps? Since there is no true mitigation apart from absorption, this still brings the fights down to 30 seconds max, considerably less if targeted by two or more. It's linear. Your survivability is inversly proportional to the dps. Nothing more. Why is this bad? Most games are attempting different combat models, because the linear FPS-style is getting old, really fast.
To the Dev's: GO PLAY DDO!!! Yes, tthe non-combat is horrible, but the combat and group rolls are MUCH better!
Originally posted by Boudewijns ok its jus to tell you guys this is my very first post on mmorpg so little respect is in hand ive got enough flaming on the swg forums here
Not to be an ass there with you dude...but I dont know ya, what part of not knowing you constitutes you getting my respect or anyone elses?
if your looking for a welcome then by all means bro WELCOME TO MMORPG.COM swg forums
ROFL Is the OP serious? The SWG NGE is the biggest piece of crap ever to feature the "Star Wars" logo. This has to be the worst example of a "fanboy" I've ever seen! Geez.. did this guy even play classic SWG? Seriously doubt it, heh.
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.
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So you can kite while kneeling?
Dodge while prone?
Does your cursor auto-aim or aim better when lying down?
Try the "crouch" command in FPS, and tell me how long you live, when I come bunny-hopping, wall-hugging with double rockets right into your head.
Postures are back, YAY! So what? They made sense in melee-centric pre-cu combat. They serve only decorative purpose right now.
Regardless of the mechanics, unless they go back to static, stand-and-attack combat, the person not running around will lose hands down.
Oh, and, how exactly does this benefit the majority, the Jedi? They kneel, while i shoot at them from 9m?
From the SWG forums:
For what's out there now, kneeling gives you a slight increase in a chance for a critical hit. Prone gives you an even greater chance at a critical hit and also a pretty good chance of getting glancing blows versus range. A melee attack versus prone has a gigantic chance of being a critical hit.
The effect is subtle but also additive with stat bonuses (and eventually Expertise bonuses) such that choosing to go prone or kneel is a choice you may consider to increase your offensive and/or defensive capability. FYI, the stats that influence critical hits are Precision and Luck (ranged attacks) and Strength and Luck (melee attacks). Agility and Luck influence your chance of glancing blow.
Mark "Tunso" Halash
Systems Designer
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For someone who said: "Cut your wrists lower" to someone else here... Your lecture is a bit empty.
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
I have to agree. Alot of people here who don't like the game likes to throw an insult towards those who do play it, so does that make them the same person?
We have enough Youth, How about a Fountain of Intelligence?
I am planning on resubbing my account tonight when I get home and it is due to people like Obraik telling me the truth about the good and the bad. I am willing to sacrafice a little. HOWEVER, people like this Dessano guy is just bad. He sounds like he is either an SOE dev or someone is holding his testicles in their hand threatening to cut them off if he doesn't praise SOE.
I mean he's like "SOE Devs are the best. They will scratch your back and bath you! This game is the best thing since sliced bread." "There are NO problems with SWG."
I have to agree. Alot of people here who don't like the game likes to throw an insult towards those who do play it, so does that make them the same person?
I know what you mean and I agree. This thread degraded quickly, but my original point was that, unlike you who can come here and say something along the lines of: "Hey, there's these changes in TC and they are good because _________ and ________ ", this guy comes here and says: "Hey, there's these changes in TC and they are good, and if you weren't to busy bitching about it, you'd notice". That's flamebaiting to me. Even though it can get pretty bad sometimes, this is one of the forums where you can actually have a discussion, trust me there's much worse out there... And I'd like to see a higher standard be kept. I come down just as hard on people "on my side of the argument" when they do it.
About him being the same person as MagnumII, well, I'm conviced he is because of the similar styles of postings, the way he expresses himself, Magnum's dissapearance after and embarrasing post and this guy sudden, immediate appearance. That and my gut feeling. But that's an opinion.
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Read my post on page 2. You will get the point.
I saw it... But after your other post and this one. I'm quite certain you are the same guy. As long as you can't learn to express your content for SWG without insulting those who don't like it, you are just another troll.
What makes you any different ? The guy didn't insult anyone he said you were to busy bitching that is not an insult . He from all I see gave his opinion of the game, Sorry you don't like it .
For someone who said: "Cut your wrists lower" to someone else here... Your lecture is a bit empty.
I never said I was different .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Well I didnt say you were bitching and all that.
Buuuuut!
To me it looks like you are, after reading all posts in that thread. Correct me if I am wrong but what exactly you are doing in that thread except slapping me around for reason that I like this game and I am still playing and was able to share my joy and hope to others? Pard me but I think you are mistaking.
And also I am not sauing this game is 100% OK! but Pub 29 is a good start and I think its the first pub from long time that will really make some difference in combat style and in game tottal.
You dont like it fine no ones beging you to come back. My personal view on all this is that you dont whant this game to be good and if you think that you not playing this game noone should cause in your opinion its sux.
So you dont miss 200k subs and someone other then your lava beetle to talk to? Group with? All those professions and the choice to choose between them?
Listen man, noone said "I hate YOU" If there is any hate its for whats been done to a game that quite honestly did not need that drastic of a change and a change for the worse is whole point of these people posting these things on the forums. Do I agree with how some express that? No, certainly not. How could so many be so wrong? Maybe its all just a big consipracy O.o
riiiight now back to reality.
Remember some of the people who post in this forum could have been a guildie of yours or a grinding companion, or maybe someone you had fun dueling. Or taught you how to make that lil jedi and saber of yours. Or was a pikeman, Doctor or something that helped you "solo" krayts for the "ubar damage pearls" and maybe even went to the planet you were dead on and drove 5k to res you. Maybe the people who built your swoops armor and weapons. These are the people posting here man, people YOU used to play with.
If you like the game bud then by all means play it... but you cant sit there and tell people who KNOW its not improving that it is, thats just not right.
If your stuck in a deep hole and see the light of day, that doesnt mean your out of the hole...it just means your stuck in a hole with the sun in your eyes...
You say that Pub 29 is a good start. Fine and dandy, that's your opinion. I'd hardly call that "a start" when it's been 3 years already. I've heard so many "good starts" and "first steps on the right direction" that almost nothing SOE/LA does impresses me anymore. That's my opinion/
And "You dont like it fine no ones beging you to come back"???? Weren't you the one who made a thread titled We need you! ????
And you think that we don't want this game to be good? Fine, that's your opinion, and perhaps to some extent you are right, some of us do want to see it fail. I for one do, but it's because I think this game is beyond salvation and I'd like it to die quickly so that another one will take it's place. But remember, as far as I know no one here is a developer or a SOE/LA Decision Maker, so it's not "us" who ruin this game
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
ya iv been playing since pub9 and the game rock my socks off but then I they started to change the game over and over again i quite when Cu came out then came back the nge came quite then came back all my 345 friends quit i palyed TC2 ya swg is desperate
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to get back all its people and your right "its one big beta game" and never been properly completed and i wasted 500 dollers over a crapy MMORPG i wish it was sweet game iv been a starwars fan for 20years and i thought this was fun then bam changes all the time
all SOE give a !@#$ about is money do you see them in the forums replying to lots of people i dont only thing they replying to is LOCKING only nice dev i every meet is LANCE who help me in the game and told me whats happing to the game and thats why i quit befor cu came out and sold my account for 1k300 then befor nge aswell for 1k500 and lance said the devs are lossing hope in the compony but But what ever the game sucks im just hoping that some one makes a new starwars mmorpg
Its only my opinion
have a nice day all=) Happy hunting
There are more constructive and responsible ways to hold this discussion. No insults, name calling, or trollbaiting please.
SWG at the last check only had 12k people playing on all servers.
Im a veteran, been in it since 2003, dont see me re-signing up do you.
First off, you're all full of it. (I WIN BUTTON) /push
Second, and many will flame me for this but it's true: What is on TC2 is ALMOST playable. Here's my opinion:
Summary: It's still FAR from a good game! It's horribly buggy and not anywhere near as good as the old game. Don't let the Fanboi's fool you!!!
To the Dev's: GO PLAY DDO!!! Yes, tthe non-combat is horrible, but the combat and group rolls are MUCH better! It's a Lock-On Targeting game with free firing that lets you tumble, dodge and play with skill, and BUILD YOUR TOON THE WAY YOU WANT TO! Heck, it has Racial Bonuses & is an action/Dice Roll Game!
I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!
In fact, forget the SWG!!!!
ZZZzzzzzz......
.....awsome.....
But still, I fail to see the fun here. One shot kills again it seems. Krayts benefit only those that stockpiled the pearls, so they'll be able to sell them at high prices again.
But this is the same as what has happened with every CU. Mobs are suddenly completely out of whack. People will realize they no longer can level (you said it yourself), the progression will slow down, grouping kills the xp, etc.
Capped damage at 1000 dps? Since there is no true mitigation apart from absorption, this still brings the fights down to 30 seconds max, considerably less if targeted by two or more. It's linear. Your survivability is inversly proportional to the dps. Nothing more.
Why is this bad? Most games are attempting different combat models, because the linear FPS-style is getting old, really fast.
To the Dev's: GO PLAY DDO!!! Yes, tthe non-combat is horrible, but the combat and group rolls are MUCH better!
I guess this explains DDO's collosal success.
ok its jus to tell you guys this is my very first post on mmorpg so little respect is in hand ive got enough flaming on the swg forums here
Not to be an ass there with you dude...but I dont know ya, what part of not knowing you constitutes you getting my respect or anyone elses?
if your looking for a welcome then by all means bro WELCOME TO MMORPG.COM swg forums
I miss the good ol' days when nerds were actually intelligent.