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Keeping a Promise, McCree Renamed to Cole Cassidy in Overwatch Next Week | MMORPG.com

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edited October 2021 in News & Features Discussion

imageKeeping a Promise, McCree Renamed to Cole Cassidy in Overwatch Next Week | MMORPG.com

While the complicated ongoing legal situation facing Activision Blizzard continues, one promise from the company is soon to come true. The character of McCree in Overwatch finally has a new name, Cole Cassidy, which will go live next week. 

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    If no one is saying it, I will :

    No one cares!

    If this particular case is understandable, they went too far in...changing things, especially in WoW.
    Slapshot1188[Deleted User]Cosmicwrathstrawhat0981ConstantineMerusKrumkodoomexMushmoozeroscloudZenJellyand 5 others.

    Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
    Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!

  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Jean-Luc_Picard said:
    Those changes to satisfy the "woke" culture disgust me. Yes, even this one. But what they are doing to WoW is really pathetic. They lost two accounts that were running since 2004 for one and 2006 the second, and I won't come back.

    Those "woke" people, crushing freedom of expression, scare me at least as much as the talibans. They are zealot bigots, the worst kind. Do you people really want to live in a world that is similar to some dystopian fiction like Demolition Man, where you get a fine for saying the "F" word ?

    Ohh look we agree..

      Really terrible shit all around , on every level..

      Superman will no longer say Truth Justice and the "American Way " now ...

      sad days .. 

      And as a Native American ( Cherokee) i can tell you , i do not know a single Native American that was Offended by Washington Redskins , Cleveland Indians etc.. matter a fact quite the opposite , there was a sense of pride and acknowledgment with it ..

      And erasing history is just bad it needs to be embraced and learned from , and people need to realize that sometimes your side just loses ..   Also worthy to note that one of ISIS big goals was/is erasing history ..
    UngoodScot[Deleted User]zeroscloud[Deleted User]CosmicwrathTwistedSister77Eldrachstrawhat0981doomexand 8 others.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Can someone tell me what is going on and why I should care in 3 sentences or less about this?
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    And this is why you don't name your characters after employees. You open yourself up to all sorts of potential controversies.

    Jesse McCree was a goddamn good name for a cowboy though, so that's a shame.
    Slapshot1188[Deleted User]OldKingLogircaddictsValdheim
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Wargfoot said:
    Ungood said:
    Can someone tell me what is going on and why I should care in 3 sentences or less about this?
    I could probably do it in three sentences but there would be hella lot of commas.
    I read the article, if a name change of a character is the biggest impact we will see, I am not seeing much of any worth going on.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    I wont say what side I am on about the 'why' but I will say that the changes do make it feel like everything is losing its sense of 'identity.'
    [Deleted User]Theocritus
  • zeroscloudzeroscloud Member UncommonPosts: 53

    Ungood said:

    Can someone tell me what is going on and why I should care in 3 sentences or less about this?



    Blizzard are a scumbag company who molest, harass, and bully employees on top of being greedy scumbags who also purposely cheat their customer base in unfinished products. Instead of trying to fix any of that they went the route of trying to change "offensive or inappropriate" names in all of their games. Mcree was an employee involved in said harassment. So yeah here we are watching this lame shit instead of any real meaningful change.
    Slapshot1188[Deleted User]ZenJellyUngooduriel_mafessircaddicts
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Wargfoot said:
    To me the contrast between substantive change and these symbolic nods - that the activists think that erasing history changes what actually happened - it seems so impotent to me and I'm surprised they are so easily satisfied with it.




    The activist blogs and accounts I saw all realized Blizzard is just doing pathetic lip service and theater instead of meaningful change.  It's pretty obvious.
    Ungood
  • samooryesordsamooryesord Member UncommonPosts: 105
    Cole Cassidy sounds like a porn star name.
    zeroscloudelveoneircaddicts
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    Scorchien said:
    Jean-Luc_Picard said:
    Those changes to satisfy the "woke" culture disgust me. Yes, even this one. But what they are doing to WoW is really pathetic. They lost two accounts that were running since 2004 for one and 2006 the second, and I won't come back.

    Those "woke" people, crushing freedom of expression, scare me at least as much as the talibans. They are zealot bigots, the worst kind. Do you people really want to live in a world that is similar to some dystopian fiction like Demolition Man, where you get a fine for saying the "F" word ?

    Ohh look we agree..

      Really terrible shit all around , on every level..

      Superman will no longer say Truth Justice and the "American Way " now ...

      sad days .. 

      And as a Native American ( Cherokee) i can tell you , i do not know a single Native American that was Offended by Washington Redskins , Cleveland Indians etc.. matter a fact quite the opposite , there was a sense of pride and acknowledgment with it ..

      And erasing history is just bad it needs to be embraced and learned from , and people need to realize that sometimes your side just loses ..   Also worthy to note that one of ISIS big goals was/is erasing history ..

    I fully expect in the future to watch games where team 4 plays team 13 for the championship because everyone was offended by each and every name that existed.....ALso the USA will no longer have a history at that point...it will all have been erased because people were offended by it.
    Mendel
  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    edited October 2021
    Ungood said:
    Can someone tell me what is going on and why I should care in 3 sentences or less about this?

    Activison/Blizzard allowed misogynistic behavior at their offices to continue for years by either ignoring it or sweeping it under the rug. Along comes an official lawsuit by an outside authority where malfeasance was found and now the company is in panic mode throwing all the baddies they can find off the sledge to the starving wolves.

    These absolutely meaningless name changes are all part of an attempt at rebranding the company to show they have seen the error of their ways, have changed, and please oh please oh please don't sue us or put any of us in jail.

    Its a fiction, its a nonsense, the rot goes all the way to the company core that has set in for years. The only true way to fix this issue is to bounce anyone in power out on their asses for their blindness, complacency or their participation in bad behavior or cover up.

    Now does this mean that you should personally give a tinker's damn? Nope.

    ZenJellyUngood
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    My neighbor's aunt has baked a nice pie. No, she didn't give me any. Nor did she give to my neighbor. 

    What? I thought we were sharing meaningless news?
    zeroscloudOldKingLogmmolourojoArcueid
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...

    It... Is... About... MONEY.

    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.

    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.

    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.

    Because it is all about the money.
    Iselin

    This have been a good conversation

  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    tawess said:
    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...

    It... Is... About... MONEY.

    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.

    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.

    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.

    Because it is all about the money.
    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:

    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...



    It... Is... About... MONEY.



    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.



    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.



    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.



    Because it is all about the money.


    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 



    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...

    But either way it is about money and nothing else.

    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...

    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.

    This have been a good conversation

  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    tawess said:

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:

    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...



    It... Is... About... MONEY.



    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.



    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.



    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.



    Because it is all about the money.


    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 



    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...

    But either way it is about money and nothing else.

    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...

    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.
    How Dave Chappelle has been inconsistent, and how has he excluded a large part of his own viewer base? He has hit the all-timing approval rating based on audience votes. What's your source on this?

    So, that would make it OK? We should keep canceling them because it is a tradition?
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:



    ConstantineMerus said:




    tawess said:


    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...





    It... Is... About... MONEY.





    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.





    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.





    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.





    Because it is all about the money.




    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 






    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...



    But either way it is about money and nothing else.



    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...



    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.


    How Dave Chappelle has been inconsistent, and how has he excluded a large part of his own viewer base? He has hit the all-timing approval rating based on audience votes. What's your source on this?

    So, that would make it OK? We should keep canceling them because it is a tradition?



    If you are doing comedy and nobody wants to cancel you... You are doing it wrong.
    RungarzeroscloudUngood

    This have been a good conversation

  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    tawess said:

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:



    ConstantineMerus said:




    tawess said:


    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...





    It... Is... About... MONEY.





    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.





    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.





    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.





    Because it is all about the money.




    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 






    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...



    But either way it is about money and nothing else.



    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...



    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.


    How Dave Chappelle has been inconsistent, and how has he excluded a large part of his own viewer base? He has hit the all-timing approval rating based on audience votes. What's your source on this?

    So, that would make it OK? We should keep canceling them because it is a tradition?



    If you are doing comedy and nobody wants to cancel you... You are doing it wrong.
    Well said. But you can also a judge a society or a group of people based on what they'd want to cancel. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:



    ConstantineMerus said:




    tawess said:





    ConstantineMerus said:






    tawess said:



    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...







    It... Is... About... MONEY.







    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.







    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.







    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.







    Because it is all about the money.






    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 









    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...





    But either way it is about money and nothing else.





    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...





    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.




    How Dave Chappelle has been inconsistent, and how has he excluded a large part of his own viewer base? He has hit the all-timing approval rating based on audience votes. What's your source on this?

    So, that would make it OK? We should keep canceling them because it is a tradition?






    If you are doing comedy and nobody wants to cancel you... You are doing it wrong.


    Well said. But you can also a judge a society or a group of people based on what they'd want to cancel. 



    Of course. But you also have to look at what voice any group has had before and what avenues they had to broadcast said voice.

    `'cause that matters almost as much.

    This have been a good conversation

  • moosecatlolmoosecatlol Member RarePosts: 1,531
    Did they name him after Butch Cassidy the rapist, or did they name him after Cole Cassidy the porn actress?

    I'm genuinely starting to wonder if the "people" developing Blizzard games are even Human.
    elveoneMikeJezZBabuinixrojoArcueid
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    ConstantineMerus said:
    tawess said:

    ConstantineMerus said:


    tawess said:



    ConstantineMerus said:




    tawess said:


    I've seen a lot of people entirely miss the point of this change.. Some thyink it is a woke thing.. others think it is misguided virtue signaling...





    It... Is... About... MONEY.





    The people who hold big stock in Blizzard want this entire thing swept under the rug and then want the rug nuked from orbit. The quickest way to do that is to scorch the earth and then never speak of it again. Because we meat popsicles move on to the next crisis and the vultures swoops on in and the entire stockmarket keeps on rolling. They give not a single fuck about your account or the accounts of another 100 angry people.





    But to keep the name in could lead to people bringing it up... Could lead to more controversy... Less money.





    Does it really matter to anyone if they change the name... No not really.. Well apart from the IRL McCree perhaps... Being forever branded by this... But the thing is, not taking action would cost more money log-term than this does short term... Most people comes back, will come back to OW2 and the rest most likely fit in to the regular churn. If not, they would not have done this.





    Because it is all about the money.




    It is a woke thing. Because right now not being woke hurts companies and people. And companies are appealing to this idiocy. 

    I know this isn't the place for it. BUT WOKE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CANCEL DAVE CHAPPELLE. I MEAN FUCK OFF. Just look into history and see what sort of people canceled comedians. Fucking tyrants!

    I am sure future generations will laugh at us for renaming a game character as well.  And when they do they won't be saying ah there was money involved, no problem! No. They will judge us for this mess that we have become. It won't last forever though. I believe in humanity. 






    Well... Is it really woke if it is not about wokeness... I´d say it is closer to virtue signaling...



    But either way it is about money and nothing else.



    As for Dave Chapelle... If one is going to be a ass-hat (a very valid standpoint for a comedian) one has to be a consistent ass-hat. Only a fucking idiot would try to make a point out of exclusion by excluding a large part of his own viewer base...



    Also not to be picky but... Canceling comedians has been a staple since.. well.. comedy was invented.


    How Dave Chappelle has been inconsistent, and how has he excluded a large part of his own viewer base? He has hit the all-timing approval rating based on audience votes. What's your source on this?

    So, that would make it OK? We should keep canceling them because it is a tradition?



    If you are doing comedy and nobody wants to cancel you... You are doing it wrong.
    Well said. But you can also a judge a society or a group of people based on what they'd want to cancel. 
    I swear, future historians are going to look back on this era, and be like "Well it was really for the best that most of them got wiped out by _______" 
    ConstantineMerus
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • VercinVercin Member UncommonPosts: 371
    Cassidy Cole is a better name. Cmon...do they not just let it roll of those tongue at all?
    Cole Cassidy...or Cassidy Cole.

    Obvious choice. Cassidy Cole.

    The Stranger: It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em afraid.

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