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The Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Team Grows, With Plans to Push Towards Alpha This Year | MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited January 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageThe Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Team Grows, With Plans to Push Towards Alpha This Year | MMORPG.com

The January Producer's Letter and updates for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen show progress as the team grows and progresses towards alpha.

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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    Feel like they've said this for a few years.
    Kyleran
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    I feel like that part in LOTR's where the Ents just finished saying hello....
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    I'm certainly no games developer, but hiring another "concept" artist doesn't really bring a warm feeling about actual progress towards delivery.

    They should be well past the "concept" stage at this point, but hey, what do I know? 

    Oh well, ever forward...
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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,055
    Viper482 said:
    I feel like that part in LOTR's where the Ents just finished saying hello....

    Yeah, and that was in "short" language.

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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Another conceptual artist?  They are only as good as the ideas behind the concepts.  VR is (or at least, should be) long past the need for conceptual artists.  How about hiring someone with actual 3D modelling and design experience instead?



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  • ronanxronanx Member UncommonPosts: 35
    it shouldn't take 5 years to get to an alpha stage
    BabuinixKyleranbng28
  • FunkyMunky42FunkyMunky42 Member UncommonPosts: 18
    I'm starting to get a real Star Citizen vibe here.
    Sadly, at least Star citizen lets them play the parts that are finished.
    Can't even do that yet.
    I had hope for this game, hype for this game, but it's devolved into the more standard "Yeah, guess I'll play it if it gets out" mentality.
  • LackingMMOLackingMMO Member RarePosts: 664
    Was number one on my list of games I can't wait to play, guess it'll be there for a lot longer now. This is also a big reason why I typically don't put money into games.. Great concept, I'll give you money when it's here and ready to play... don't care if it's the collectors edition or whatever.. Game first though.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    FunkyMunky42 said:
    I'm starting to get a real Star Citizen vibe here.
    Sadly, at least Star citizen lets them play the parts that are finished.
    Can't even do that yet.
    I had hope for this game, hype for this game, but it's devolved into the more standard "Yeah, guess I'll play it if it gets out" mentality.
    They desperately need more funding to accelerate or even ensure eventual delivery, but only a few takers so far, heck even adding a few NFTs drew little interest.

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • qtaqqtaq Member UncommonPosts: 75
    I think you should hook up with Jacobs at Camelnot Unchained between the two of your pathetic updates and after how many years with nothing to show for it, just now getting to alpha for another tab target borefest no thanks.
  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768
    Kyleran said:
    I'm certainly no games developer, but hiring another "concept" artist doesn't really bring a warm feeling about actual progress towards delivery.

    They should be well past the "concept" stage at this point, but hey, what do I know? 

    Oh well, ever forward...

    She is there to assist the senior concept artist specifically for animations of which there appears to be a backlog. As noted in the newsletter.

    "Animations: In Progress UPDATED
    What it is: Develop player and NPC animations to support locomotion, combat, emotes, and other gameplay.

    • Work will begin in January to create a concept art backlog for needed animations."


    Before animators make changes or add animations they rely on concept artists to give a visualization first, kind of like a blueprint.
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  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768
    An overlooked and important part of the newsletter which will be the most impactful of Pantheon development going forward imo.

    "Business Development is also running at full steam as we head into 2022. Discussions with potential partners continue and there is a lot of positive momentum for this year. Expect to hear more as these relationships develop."




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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Kyleran said:
    FunkyMunky42 said:
    I'm starting to get a real Star Citizen vibe here.
    Sadly, at least Star citizen lets them play the parts that are finished.
    Can't even do that yet.
    I had hope for this game, hype for this game, but it's devolved into the more standard "Yeah, guess I'll play it if it gets out" mentality.
    They desperately need more funding to accelerate or even ensure eventual delivery, but only a few takers so far, heck even adding a few NFTs drew little interest.
    Eeeh they didn't add them, no utility. They made some jpegs to sell hoping supporters would buy and cherish them for, for... help me out here for?
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,208
    edited January 2022
    Didn't they say early last year that they would be pushing for alpha at the end of 2021?  Now they are saying this year they are pushing for alpha sometime in 2022?

    Is there any progress at all I mean geez.
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,054
    bcbully said:
    Kyleran said:
    FunkyMunky42 said:
    I'm starting to get a real Star Citizen vibe here.
    Sadly, at least Star citizen lets them play the parts that are finished.
    Can't even do that yet.
    I had hope for this game, hype for this game, but it's devolved into the more standard "Yeah, guess I'll play it if it gets out" mentality.
    They desperately need more funding to accelerate or even ensure eventual delivery, but only a few takers so far, heck even adding a few NFTs drew little interest.
    Eeeh they didn't add them, no utility. They made some jpegs to sell hoping supporters would buy and cherish them for, for... help me out here for?
    Pick me! Pick me! How about ‘Star Citizen jpeg whales are bored apes, NFT experts buy bored apes?’ 

    /Cheers,
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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768
    edited January 2022

    Brainy said:

    Didn't they say early last year that they would be pushing for alpha at the end of 2021?  Now they are saying this year they are pushing for alpha sometime in 2022?

    Is there any progress at all I mean geez.



    Yes. Chris Rowan(the CEO) around the beginning of 2021 said in a Developer Roundtable podcast that he was "hoping for alpha" that year. This was shortly after that 7 figure investment, heavily alluding to alpha happening by end of 2021.

    There was also this tweet from Joppa near the end of 2020.




    "Don't expect specific dates or time frames, but we've already begun discussing how to make our road to Alpha milestones and our progress towards/completion of those milestones more visible."
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Wargfoot said:
    I love what they have to say in the developer discussions and so forth but a couple of things turned me off:  

    1: No real substance yet.
    2: 10K lifetime sub.

    So I threw some money at Fractured which seems to be making better progress.
    What did they give in return for your investment, for the risk you assumed?
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Looking back to projects like Darkfall and a few other Indie MMORPG's that have released and gone the way of the dodo bird.

    I don't see a reason why these guys can't release a game.

    I'm waiting....

    and waiting....


    and waiting....

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Pushing toward alpha in 2022 doesn't mean that the alpha starts in 2022.  It means that at the end of 2022, the alpha is closer than it was at the start of 2022.
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Maybe someone mixed the numbers up and its really 2202?

    I'm just trying to be funny.

    This team has taken a big hit and its got to be tough to get the ship back on course. The good news is that somebody else gets the chance to be a shining star.

    Imho
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  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    I for one believe in this project! Its great to see that they keep on trecking despite all the setbacks.
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    edited January 2022
    Wargfoot said:
    bcbully said:
    Wargfoot said:
    I love what they have to say in the developer discussions and so forth but a couple of things turned me off:  

    1: No real substance yet.
    2: 10K lifetime sub.

    So I threw some money at Fractured which seems to be making better progress.
    What did they give in return for your investment, for the risk you assumed?
    You're going to have to accept we want different things in a game.
    For me, crypto/NFTs/blockchain is a huge negative.

    So nothing... You gave them money to work on THEIR game and you got NOTHING in return. 

    Man this shit has stop. Gamers deserve better than this. How the hell in this day in age, game developers/companies think this is ok? How in the hell do you think this is ok?

    Gamers have been treated wrong. Free money, for years, nothing else.

    Stop this craziness in 2022.


    edit- when's the game coming out? No clue huh.. smh. 

    Brainy
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited January 2022
    bcbully said:
    Wargfoot said:
    bcbully said:
    Wargfoot said:
    I love what they have to say in the developer discussions and so forth but a couple of things turned me off:  

    1: No real substance yet.
    2: 10K lifetime sub.

    So I threw some money at Fractured which seems to be making better progress.
    What did they give in return for your investment, for the risk you assumed?
    You're going to have to accept we want different things in a game.
    For me, crypto/NFTs/blockchain is a huge negative.

    So nothing... You gave them money to work on THEIR game and you got NOTHING in return. 

    Man this shit has stop. Gamers deserve better than this. How the hell in this day in age, game developers/companies think this is ok? How in the hell do you think this is ok?

    Gamers have been treated wrong. Free money, for years, nothing else.

    Stop this craziness in 2022.


    edit- when's the game coming out? No clue huh.. smh. 

    Shit happens all the time whether we're taking a chance on games, girlfriends or investments.

    Ya win some... ya lose some...

    Hopefully you win a lot more than you lose :)
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