Originally posted by daeandor Originally posted by AlexAmore Here's some smoking gun proof that Bush lied about the war in Iraq. Downing Street Memo!!. Click on the link and read "The Memo" then read "why care?" so you can read Bush's lies/contradictions.
By the way AlexAmore, you do realize that the Downing Street Memo is a classic case of "he said, she said," right? Very far from "smoking gun." Officials like Bush, Rice, Blaire have all been asked about it and they don't deny it. What's your response to Bush restricting agents from doing their job 2 months before 9/11? Just good ol'Bush doing his job?
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no i have a question what happened to all the tapes of 9/11? the day after they were recorded they were taken and then found enmase' edited! wtf man? also the news was paid NOT to say anything about.
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Originally posted by jhall229 You and everyone who believes this are ignorant, naiive, MORONS.
Ya know, by saying that you're bashing many families on that day who lost loved ones and many military vets and active. You call them all ignorant, naive, morons? Even Cynthia McKinney (Congress) thinks Bush is corrupt. Then there is former FBI investigator Sibel Edmonds who was hired after 9/11 by the FBI to translate pre-9-11 intelligence and she's calling BS on the 9/11 "investigation". Right now she is gagged but she is still fighting Washington and whistleblowing. She had top-secret clearance too. She came lots of interesting stuff but she said they weren't interested.
I have a feeling based on your anger you probably haven't even investigated it. Probably the most you investigated was on Fox News...
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i have a question why do i understand wht that guy says in the link and why does it make sence why would the tower that got hit second fall first? too many questions left unanswerd
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The second tower was also hit at an angle than the first one. The majority of the fuel and debris from the second plane smashed out of the building and exploded OUTSIDE in the open air over the street. which took less than half the fuel load of its North Tower twin -was the first of the two to collapse.
Conspiracy theory here is that it pancaked through each floor below the airplane crash in about 10 seconds.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Originally posted by AlexAmore The second tower was also hit at an angle than the first one. The majority of the fuel and debris from the second plane smashed out of the building and exploded OUTSIDE in the open air over the street. which took less than half the fuel load of its North Tower twin -was the first of the two to collapse.
Conspiracy theory here is that it pancaked through each floor below the airplane crash in about 10 seconds.
yea and how could all that concret and meatal be destroyed that fast
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Exactly. Then they say it was "weakened" but it even so it couldn't fall that quick. (there's video of this)
She seems to be doing just fine and healthy through all the BURNING, WEAKENED metal. She was walking around through there like nobody's bidness.
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
exactly and why does the government take the tapes recorded of 9/11 wht happend to all of the a.a defence?hmmmmmmmmm how can America be called the greastest country if its defences let somthing like this happen
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Yeah the entire nation knew we were being attacked including our agencys and DEFINATELY Washington yet SOMEHOW WAAAAY after WTC some airplane gets through WASHINGTON and BOMBS OUR OWN SECURITY HEADQUARTERS.
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Originally posted by royevans i have a question why do i understand wht that guy says in the link and why does it make sence why would the tower that got hit second fall first? too many questions left unanswerd
Thats easy.... the tower that got hit second was lower therefore more weight to support -- when them hot flames warped the support beams it fell first because of the more weight.... When I saw the tower begin to fall live on TV - I thought that from the get go -- the building designers and scientis proved why they fell in the first place -- good documentary on history channel -- should watch it :P
Originally posted by AlexAmore The second tower was also hit at an angle than the first one. The majority of the fuel and debris from the second plane smashed out of the building and exploded OUTSIDE in the open air over the street. which took less than half the fuel load of its North Tower twin -was the first of the two to collapse.
Conspiracy theory here is that it pancaked through each floor below the airplane crash in about 10 seconds.
OK as a pilot - how would he know exactly were to crash his plane -- its not like there was a bulleye on the side of the building so the pilot knew right were to fly his plane -- so when the explosives went off that brought down the towers came from the same spot the plane crashed -- if you notice in the videos of 9-11 the buildings collaps begins right were the building was in an internal fireball...
as for the fuel.. the second the wings were removed from the plane (on entery) that fuel went everywhere -- the explosion was the fuel in fire exploding outward following the momentum of the plane...
Thats easy.... the tower that got hit second was lower therefore more weight to support -- when them hot flames warped the support beams it fell first because of the more weight.... When I saw the tower begin to fall live on TV - I thought that from the get go -- the building designers and scientis proved why they fell in the first place -- good documentary on history channel -- should watch it :P WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT there was over 5TONS of metal and concret you dumb ass. Fire cant do that! when the first tower was hit it was hit HEAD ON! but the second one was barly hit on the right corner but it fell first 18 MINUTES YOU HEAR? 18 GOD FORESAKEN MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST ONE WAS HIT EXPLANE THAT SHURLOCK
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Originally posted by Saidee Originally posted by AlexAmore The second tower was also hit at an angle than the first one. The majority of the fuel and debris from the second plane smashed out of the building and exploded OUTSIDE in the open air over the street. which took less than half the fuel load of its North Tower twin -was the first of the two to collapse.
Conspiracy theory here is that it pancaked through each floor below the airplane crash in about 10 seconds.
OK as a pilot - how would he know exactly were to crash his plane -- its not like there was a bulleye on the side of the building so the pilot knew right were to fly his plane -I know, i'm just stating a fact that he was off when he hit. Which supports my theory. so when the explosives went off that brought down the towers came from the same spot the plane crashed -- Yes, there were explosives. Also there were explosives in the basement that went off right before the planes hit. if you notice in the videos of 9-11 the buildings collaps begins right were the building was in an internal fireball... Actually in the videos you'll see how the smoke gets very black which means the fire was going out.
as for the fuel.. the second the wings were removed from the plane (on entery) that fuel went everywhere -- the explosion was the fuel in fire exploding outward following the momentum of the plane...
______________________________ "When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!" -cheer leading, flag waving American
Originally posted by AlexAmore Yes, there were explosives. Also there were explosives in the basement that went off right before the planes hit.
There has been no documented discovery of explosives in the building other than the planes themselves. You base this assumption on eye-witness statements that comment on the sound of the collapse. Something along the lines of, "all the sudden I heard a series of explosions and the building began to collapse," or, "I heard a large explosion and it sounded like it came from the basement." Hearing an explosion is not difinitive proof that it was caused by an intentionally planted explosive such as C4 or detonation cord.
Also, which building is that picture of the woman? Can you link it?
Originally posted by daeandor Originally posted by AlexAmore Yes, there were explosives. Also there were explosives in the basement that went off right before the planes hit.
There has been no documented discovery of explosives in the building other than the planes themselves. You base this assumption on eye-witness statements that comment on the sound of the collapse. Something along the lines of, "all the sudden I heard a series of explosions and the building began to collapse," or, "I heard a large explosion and it sounded like it came from the basement." Hearing an explosion is not difinitive proof that it was caused by an intentionally planted explosive such as C4 or detonation cord.
Also, which building is that picture of the woman? Can you link it?
Conspiracy theory: Woman climbed through the raging "inferno" and waved for help. btw she was indentified by her husband as Edna Cintron. She's not even crippled or has any singed hair. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_fire.html with more footage and photographs and other stuff.
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Originally posted by AlexAmore Originally posted by jhall229 You and everyone who believes this are ignorant, naiive, MORONS.
Ya know, by saying that you're bashing many families on that day who lost loved ones and many military vets and active. You call them all ignorant, naive, morons? Even Cynthia McKinney (Congress) thinks Bush is corrupt. Then there is former FBI investigator Sibel Edmonds who was hired after 9/11 by the FBI to translate pre-9-11 intelligence and she's calling BS on the 9/11 "investigation". Right now she is gagged but she is still fighting Washington and whistleblowing. She had top-secret clearance too. She came lots of interesting stuff but she said they weren't interested.
I have a feeling based on your anger you probably haven't even investigated it. Probably the most you investigated was on Fox News...
I'm not bashing anyone who died on 9/11, I dont know where you got that. But anyone who thinks that the President of the United States would be behind something like that is just plain naiive. If you want to know who you are naiive to, it is the "Left." Its the left that will do anything to slander the George Bush/the Bush administration, and it is the naiive people such as yourself and others who believe them. You guys need to realize that most things you hear and read in the mainstream media is influenced by the left in one way or the other, and at this point and time, is aimed at destroyed one man: George W. Bush/his administration. No I dont think he is the greatest president ever, but I do realize the hatred people have for him, and the stories they can come up with to try to ruin him are all too obvious. You know who is probably corrupt is your quoted congresswoman and former FBI investigator.
LOL that video is so full of crap its not even funny. "14 fighter jets left to protect the entire US." HAHA, there are more than that on Pope AFB, NC where I am stationed. That ignorant statement alone is enough to throw out this entire "documentary." And by the way since you believe this video, why dont you check out the new video of a LARGE PASENGER PLANE hitting the pentagon that was released recently. It didnt look like a cruise missile to me
I give the creators of that so-called "documentary" credit. It only took them 4 years to come up with one of the most BS videos ever created. Grats.
And I am willing to bet the most you have investigated this matter are the left-side wacko blog sites. Why am I willing to bet this?? Because its pretty obvious you are reading the left's rhetoric when you attack Fox News, lol. I wouldnt doubt you beieve Fahrenheit 9/11 was all true too. I feel sorry for our county now. It seems all the young people are getting drawn into believing whatever they see or read.
I knew I shouldnt have tried to read any off-topic posts on this site. I will stick to talking about games.
Originally posted by daeandor There has been no documented discovery of explosives in the building other than the planes themselves. You base this assumption on eye-witness statements that comment on the sound of the collapse. Something along the lines of, "all the sudden I heard a series of explosions and the building began to collapse," or, "I heard a large explosion and it sounded like it came from the basement." Hearing an explosion is not difinitive proof that it was caused by an intentionally planted explosive such as C4 or detonation cord.
well, of course there wouldn't be a documented discovery of any explosives, that is the biggest part of this conspiracy/coverup. If there was documented proof (which, according to you, eyewitness reports don't count as this) it would have to come from the people who, soposively(sp?), planted the bombs (The U.S. government), so it would never happen, and if someone besides them found out, of course they would pay them off to shut up.
And if there were actually bombs in the wtc, it only could have been planted by 2 groups, the terrorists or the government. The terrorists would have no reason to plant the bombs, because that would defeat the purpose of flying a plane into the buildings. The government, on the other hand, would have an excuse to go to war. This would also explain why the pentagon got hit in the one part that was just being constructed, and was blast proof. That way when the plane (or missile, because there is no evidence that a plane actually hit the pentagon, except for eyewitness reports(which dont count) ) hit the pentagon, they would have all the more reason to go to war. It got the public even madder than the WTC, because thoes dam iraqis dared to attack OUR capital (sarcasm). It gives the us motive, but the muslims that "did it for allah" really had no motive compared to our government.
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Officials like Bush, Rice, Blaire have all been asked about it and they don't deny it. What's your response to Bush restricting agents from doing their job 2 months before 9/11? Just good ol'Bush doing his job?
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Ya know, by saying that you're bashing many families on that day who lost loved ones and many military vets and active. You call them all ignorant, naive, morons? Even Cynthia McKinney (Congress) thinks Bush is corrupt. Then there is former FBI investigator Sibel Edmonds who was hired after 9/11 by the FBI to translate pre-9-11 intelligence and she's calling BS on the 9/11 "investigation". Right now she is gagged but she is still fighting Washington and whistleblowing. She had top-secret clearance too. She came lots of interesting stuff but she said they weren't interested.
I have a feeling based on your anger you probably haven't even investigated it. Probably the most you investigated was on Fox News...
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
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The second tower was also hit at an angle than the first one. The majority of the fuel and debris from the second plane smashed out of the building and exploded OUTSIDE in the open air over the street. which took less than half the fuel load of its North Tower twin -was the first of the two to collapse.
Conspiracy theory here is that it pancaked through each floor below the airplane crash in about 10 seconds.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
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Exactly. Then they say it was "weakened" but it even so it couldn't fall that quick.
(there's video of this)
She seems to be doing just fine and healthy through all the BURNING, WEAKENED metal. She was walking around through there like nobody's bidness.
______________________________
"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
WFT are you talking about?
LOL - try the enormous heat melted the floor support beams causing them to warp till it could not support the weight and down it came... twice
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OK as a pilot - how would he know exactly were to crash his plane -- its not like there was a bulleye on the side of the building so the pilot knew right were to fly his plane -- so when the explosives went off that brought down the towers came from the same spot the plane crashed -- if you notice in the videos of 9-11 the buildings collaps begins right were the building was in an internal fireball...
as for the fuel.. the second the wings were removed from the plane (on entery) that fuel went everywhere -- the explosion was the fuel in fire exploding outward following the momentum of the plane...
Saidee
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OK as a pilot - how would he know exactly were to crash his plane -- its not like there was a bulleye on the side of the building so the pilot knew right were to fly his plane -I know, i'm just stating a fact that he was off when he hit. Which supports my theory.
so when the explosives went off that brought down the towers came from the same spot the plane crashed --
Yes, there were explosives. Also there were explosives in the basement that went off right before the planes hit.
if you notice in the videos of 9-11 the buildings collaps begins right were the building was in an internal fireball...
Actually in the videos you'll see how the smoke gets very black which means the fire was going out.
as for the fuel.. the second the wings were removed from the plane (on entery) that fuel went everywhere -- the explosion was the fuel in fire exploding outward following the momentum of the plane...
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There has been no documented discovery of explosives in the building other than the planes themselves. You base this assumption on eye-witness statements that comment on the sound of the collapse. Something along the lines of, "all the sudden I heard a series of explosions and the building began to collapse," or, "I heard a large explosion and it sounded like it came from the basement." Hearing an explosion is not difinitive proof that it was caused by an intentionally planted explosive such as C4 or detonation cord.
Also, which building is that picture of the woman? Can you link it?
There has been no documented discovery of explosives in the building other than the planes themselves. You base this assumption on eye-witness statements that comment on the sound of the collapse. Something along the lines of, "all the sudden I heard a series of explosions and the building began to collapse," or, "I heard a large explosion and it sounded like it came from the basement." Hearing an explosion is not difinitive proof that it was caused by an intentionally planted explosive such as C4 or detonation cord.
Also, which building is that picture of the woman? Can you link it?
It was from wikipedia and there is video http://worcester.indymedia.org/news/2005/04/1099_comment.php go down you will see a link to watch footage. The link will appear right under one of the photos (pretty high quality imo).
Conspiracy theory: Woman climbed through the raging "inferno" and waved for help. btw she was indentified by her husband as Edna Cintron. She's not even crippled or has any singed hair.
http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/index.php?q=node/5787 - Here is the basement one. He pulled people injured to safety from the explosion in the basement....the building wasn't collapsed yet.
Video of interview http://911proof.com/resources/innrodriguesisdnsept05snow.wmv
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_fire.html with more footage and photographs and other stuff.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2005/051205foundbombs.htm - police find device and suspect a van in the garage to have explosives.
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
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MUST WATCH http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&search=united%2093. Ultra rare footage of Flight 93. This was never shown on TV.
Supporting evidence: http://youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
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"When Saddam flew that plane into those buildings, I knew it was time to kick some Iranian ass!"
-cheer leading, flag waving American
Ya know, by saying that you're bashing many families on that day who lost loved ones and many military vets and active. You call them all ignorant, naive, morons? Even Cynthia McKinney (Congress) thinks Bush is corrupt. Then there is former FBI investigator Sibel Edmonds who was hired after 9/11 by the FBI to translate pre-9-11 intelligence and she's calling BS on the 9/11 "investigation". Right now she is gagged but she is still fighting Washington and whistleblowing. She had top-secret clearance too. She came lots of interesting stuff but she said they weren't interested.
I have a feeling based on your anger you probably haven't even investigated it. Probably the most you investigated was on Fox News...
I'm not bashing anyone who died on 9/11, I dont know where you got that. But anyone who thinks that the President of the United States would be behind something like that is just plain naiive. If you want to know who you are naiive to, it is the "Left." Its the left that will do anything to slander the George Bush/the Bush administration, and it is the naiive people such as yourself and others who believe them. You guys need to realize that most things you hear and read in the mainstream media is influenced by the left in one way or the other, and at this point and time, is aimed at destroyed one man: George W. Bush/his administration. No I dont think he is the greatest president ever, but I do realize the hatred people have for him, and the stories they can come up with to try to ruin him are all too obvious. You know who is probably corrupt is your quoted congresswoman and former FBI investigator.
LOL that video is so full of crap its not even funny. "14 fighter jets left to protect the entire US." HAHA, there are more than that on Pope AFB, NC where I am stationed. That ignorant statement alone is enough to throw out this entire "documentary." And by the way since you believe this video, why dont you check out the new video of a LARGE PASENGER PLANE hitting the pentagon that was released recently. It didnt look like a cruise missile to me
I give the creators of that so-called "documentary" credit. It only took them 4 years to come up with one of the most BS videos ever created. Grats.
And I am willing to bet the most you have investigated this matter are the left-side wacko blog sites. Why am I willing to bet this?? Because its pretty obvious you are reading the left's rhetoric when you attack Fox News, lol. I wouldnt doubt you beieve Fahrenheit 9/11 was all true too. I feel sorry for our county now. It seems all the young people are getting drawn into believing whatever they see or read.
I knew I shouldnt have tried to read any off-topic posts on this site. I will stick to talking about games.
well, of course there wouldn't be a documented discovery of any explosives, that is the biggest part of this conspiracy/coverup. If there was documented proof (which, according to you, eyewitness reports don't count as this) it would have to come from the people who, soposively(sp?), planted the bombs (The U.S. government), so it would never happen, and if someone besides them found out, of course they would pay them off to shut up.
And if there were actually bombs in the wtc, it only could have been planted by 2 groups, the terrorists or the government. The terrorists would have no reason to plant the bombs, because that would defeat the purpose of flying a plane into the buildings. The government, on the other hand, would have an excuse to go to war. This would also explain why the pentagon got hit in the one part that was just being constructed, and was blast proof. That way when the plane (or missile, because there is no evidence that a plane actually hit the pentagon, except for eyewitness reports(which dont count) ) hit the pentagon, they would have all the more reason to go to war. It got the public even madder than the WTC, because thoes dam iraqis dared to attack OUR capital (sarcasm). It gives the us motive, but the muslims that "did it for allah" really had no motive compared to our government.